How to be a Good Student - Draftsmen S2E14

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Stan and Marshall teach you how to be a good student. The mindset, habits, and things you can do that will speed up your learning process and make it more enjoyable. They also discuss kind vs wicked learning, methods for taking notes and staying organized, treating your education as a job and the importance of getting real world experience as a student.
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Stan Prokopenko and Marshall Vandruff are art instructors. If you love the arts, particularly the craft of drawing and painting and image-making… and you want to level up your skills or even make a living with your skills, we are here to answer your questions. We’re here to offer you advice, refer you to our resources, share your love of the craft and maybe inspire you! Learn to Draw - www.proko.com Marshall Vandruff - www.marshallart.com. Subscribe to the podcast at bit.ly/DraftsmenPod
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Hosts - Stan Prokopenko (www.stanprokopenko.com), Marshall Vandruff (www.marshallart.com/)
Editing - Charlie Nicholson, Alex Otis ( / alexotisillustration )
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Intro Jingle - Tommy Rush ( / tommyrush )
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@Draftsmen 4 жыл бұрын

What makes a good student? Leave a tip below.

@myyriad778 4 жыл бұрын

Listening to your voice Marshall

@voodoogroove8209 4 жыл бұрын

WORK. Hard work. Plenty of it. Working at studying, work at practice, work at learning. WORK.

@Markerton 4 жыл бұрын

he can do epic backflips!

@JefferyDavisJr. 4 жыл бұрын

Discipline

@heeerooo5124 4 жыл бұрын

:) .

@beldonar 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall’s beard is making him look more like art Gandalf by the day.

@anthonypc1 4 жыл бұрын

I think he's more of a young Dumbledore

@DamasDraws 4 жыл бұрын

But HE IS art Gandalf...

@jamminjester5248 4 жыл бұрын

"They're not listening to this part." Me who drives for a living listening to you guys in the background. "Oh I listen to everything Stan. Eeeeeeeveeeerythiiiiiing." Haha.

@JoximusARTpage 4 жыл бұрын

"If you didn't have to make money with the thing that you're choosing to do, what would you do? That's where the passion is." Is such a powerful quote and Stan so randomly said it.

@AbiNomac 4 жыл бұрын

I really like Marshall, great character and talented artist.

@unparalleleddimension1918 4 жыл бұрын

I always love to hear Stan Vandruff and Marshall Prokopenko, they're the best!

@adityabanerjee6314 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall would make a pretty decent Joker there in the intro.

@__-fi6xg 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall would be more than decent to play the joker and batman at the same time.

@funnylittlefella6848 3 жыл бұрын

@@__-fi6xg k,dy*c*

@swiirlee8670 4 жыл бұрын

on developing thicker skin -- i used to be afraid of criticism too, but i kind of learned to uncouple myself from my work. idk if this thought process would work for other ppl but, one day i just kind of realized that my value as an artist isn't entirely reliant in the stuff i've made but also in the stuff i'm going to do in the future. that it's my *skill*, what i could do and what i could make and not simply me and nothing else, that determines what kind of artist i could be. and since it was about my skill, it (and therefore i) could be honed. so when my artwork is being criticized, i've learned to process it as a helpful way to find where else i could bring my art to, which direction i could take with it. i'm sorry if it doesn't make complete sense. a lot of it really is just a new emotional understanding of the process and my place in it and as part of it even if it's all just the same knowledge. but something important i think is that it's a bad idea to look for really harsh criticism when you're in a bad headspace for it, if you are not ready to uncouple from your artwork yet or if you just want to be put down or feel bad and sorry for yourself. it would be so easy to use it as some kind of emotional self-harm. imo the best headspace is when you are already feeling like you could do much better and is seeking a way to grow. to clarify this is how it works for me. i hope it could help somebody but we are all very different and have different ways of going about it.

@Sky-de7oy 4 жыл бұрын

staying until the end was worth it just for Marshal 's singing with his coffee. jkjk your podcasts are so worth every second

@AishInTheHouse 4 жыл бұрын

A medical student who graduates at the bottom of their class . A doctor. Wow thanks Marshall, I’ll be sure to use this next time xD . You guys are hilarious !

@WaSiLLy63 4 жыл бұрын

Love Marshall's sense of humor which lightens/brightens my day! Thank you, Marshall!

@vallelorum997 4 жыл бұрын

Thx for the podcast I really love it! For me it’s like an source for inspiration it’s like what Marshall talks about with the movies he has watched like ten times and still gets new things from it i, have listened to every episode of the podcast about fifteen time each and I still laugh and learn new things EVERY time . When I don’t feel like drawing I just turn on the podcast and a minute later I’m either researching or drawing like crazy. So what I wanted to say was KEEP DOING IT. It’s amazing. Thanks

@onionpainter 2 жыл бұрын

Hey this is a comment for Stan, I just wanted to say it was really great to hear about your early school experience of not speaking the language, because I was in a similar situation in my schooling, being from an anglophone family and doing the first 5 years in french immersion, then failing out of french and then having to learn to read and write in english at 8. Pictures were the only thing I could actually do successfully, so I chose my path as an artist when I was 10 because of a complete lack of success in literally anything else. I'm a professional painter and illustrator now, absolutely crushing the game. Also thanks for making all of these videos, I listen to them often while I work! lots of great info and advice in here.

@alfonsoespinoza1238 4 жыл бұрын

"did you really just burp on a draftsmen podcast?" lmaoo

@Lobstrique 2 жыл бұрын

these Marshall-alone intros are GOLD

@joanistotler8804 4 жыл бұрын

This was a terribly helpful conversation - especially the organization/time management portion. I have to write stuff down, going digital doesn't work for me. I get a ton of inspiration in the wee morning hours and end up using a small spiral to take it down (not always easy to translate in the morning LOL). I make many schedules but can't seem to keep them after the first day. Trying to get better at my organizational skills but still a long way to go. Hope you revisit these topics again. I LOVE learning but having to discipline myself to practice what I"m learning, so I can make it my own - getting better at that though, too. You guys are a great pair - really enjoy and benefit from listening to each episode!

@RukileinchenChan 4 жыл бұрын

I want to become a concept artist really badly but have just noticed this 2 years ago with 26. I am afraid of not getting anywhere with my art, not improving and be stuck to my boring everyday job... but thinking about just quitting makes me really sick. When I am at work, I always imagine being part of e.g. a concept art team in gaming or doing anime backgrounds in my most beloved country on this planet and just smile or hate not being able to do it NOW. I am thinking about this all the time and even I often have bad art days, I am very stubborn and ambitious when I have set a goal. I hope I will get into the industry by 30 somehow (I am from Germany and here 2D game artists do not reallyhave many opportunities...) I only have one person who really believes in me and encourages me to achieve my dream - my husband, and I think that is worth the world.

@Daniel-qi3qv 3 жыл бұрын

Keep up the fight, I am sure you can do it.

@johnpeterchua6148 4 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you both again!

@paulhe001 4 жыл бұрын

This was one of the most riveting and interesting episodes ever, thank you so much!

@TaterProduction 4 жыл бұрын

YES! How to learn composition is EXACTLY one of the things I need right now! Can’t wait!

@maan7715 4 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail is especially good this time haha.

@heathermac8725 2 жыл бұрын

No, I really like seeing the weather where you are! Before you even made the 'weather comment' I was enjoying 'gleaning stuff' about Marshall (that I like) by the way he likes to sit by the window ... next to the outside-coming-inside and the changing 'state of things' - lovely.

@geraldmanansala8539 4 жыл бұрын

Hearing Marshall's voice made my day ♥️

@lulamidgeable 2 жыл бұрын

That's possibly the best intro of all the shows.

@navyasinghal1143 4 жыл бұрын

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!

@nicks931 4 жыл бұрын

A+ no C-it. Love seeing Marshall get enthused! Such great, great info in this one. Great job gentlemen.

@papertooth. 3 жыл бұрын

I've watched all the "productivity tips & trickszxs" videos on youtube since i was on the 8th grade but everything in this podcast can be applied to any scenario i believe. I'll be graduating high school in a few months but have been struggling and i hope i can apply everything you said in these videos. I think just another thing that also makes a good student is to take care of themselves just enough to not be a robot but also not to get too indulged as i think burn out is quite common to students who want to achieve a lot : ) great episode!

@horaciosalazargomez9488 4 жыл бұрын

OMG! This is the 1st episode of the 2nd season of Draftsmen show I've watched by now?! Can't believe I've missed so many episodes!! I feel so freaking bad with myself! :'( Need to watch them all! For this one, it was fantastic! :D I truly enjoyed the subject, and did really miss laughing and learning at the same time with these two fabulous guys! Hope I get up to date soon! BTW If you Stan and Marshall are watching this, know that I'm another fan of your show, it's really great! Blessings to both of you! :)

@KemonoPriestessHazuki 3 жыл бұрын

More power to you Mister Vandruff.

@thaumana8489 4 жыл бұрын

Best opener! Please don't die on us, Marshall! Same goes for you of course, Stan.

@hoonterofhoonters6588 4 жыл бұрын

Ten hour podcast of Marshal giving life advice through anecdotes.

@lAcedUpLiss 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Stan and Marshall, so excited for the new podcasts because I need all the tips I can get about being a better student. I'm a woman diagnosed with severe ADHD, so it's not a boy thing. Lots of women have it and it's also not something you grow out of in adulthood. We just find coping mechanisms and how to mask our symptoms. It is an actual learning disability that overlaps with Autism spectrum disorder a lot. Honestly, when Stan said he had ADHD I said I knew it. It was so inspiring to hear a successful artist who has been entirely self-motivated say that! Thank you Stan you give me hope that I can get as good as you if I don't give up.

@gavingranado2146 4 жыл бұрын

My fragile mental space appreciates these podcasts

@TaterProduction 4 жыл бұрын

I’m definitely going to listen to this one again, very Beneficial instruction!!

@hbpencil490 4 жыл бұрын

how to study composition...Yes!..I been waiting for this!

@crowofcainhurst 4 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail lmaoooo

@marinoonan3666 4 жыл бұрын

Teachable means being humble, by knowing that oneself is in need of learning

@madarakun9952 4 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for next week's episode cuz composition is really something I struggle with

@kohchenkit266 4 жыл бұрын

I would watch every single episode of this podcast if there were like 20 or more seasons of this!

@erveyvazquez8842 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic videos! I'm really enjoying this podcast and absorbing a lot from it c:

@CharlesHancockCreations 4 жыл бұрын

That intro from Marshall was fantastico! I see that Leyendecker. Fantastico.

@isamepython 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys!

@InkyDani 4 жыл бұрын

Love these podcasts... Thank you both for your time and insight. I remember being so mad that my 6th-grade Spanish teacher didn't speak Spanish. She gave us worksheets and long boring videos to watch, while proudly exclaiming she had no idea what she was doing. She majored in Humanities and was a great Social Studies teacher. I proceeded to sabotage my 4.0 GPA by purposely 100% failing her Spanish class while getting A's in everything else - and shared my rebellious plan with my fellow students. So, long story short, does holding teachers accountable make you a good student or a bad student? I'd be curious if Marshall or Stan have any thoughts on that.

@krzysztofmathews738 4 жыл бұрын

The part about "Kind" and "Wicked" learning is fascinating!

@maxpitchkites 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall you're freaking me out with that intro

@jrfk3d 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah ! This is so good !

@edison_w_junior 4 жыл бұрын

Great episode!

@WhiteXFusion 4 жыл бұрын

My grandpa used to tell me "Treat your teacher as if he were your client" he was a caricaturist in the local newspaper

@bjtrn 4 жыл бұрын

I hope you’ll make recordings available for the Bridgman Bootcamp. Can’t make the live session but would happily pay for the recordings. Seems like great information.

@sebastwin2762 Жыл бұрын

JAJSKAJSKAJSKA THE THUMBNAIL IS SO LOVELY XD

@chloe3053 3 жыл бұрын

''i just hope you dont die before i get there hahahha' xD so funny, laughed out loud. bless him. a true treasure

@giakoner 4 жыл бұрын

That was beautiful Marshall! Is there any mentioned artists and reference list that I'm missing? I swear I could find one on other episodes.

@lukesbacon 4 жыл бұрын

I love Marshall's singing segments

@anoukadel6397 4 жыл бұрын

I really believe that knowing how to study to pass a particular test is a very important skill, and without it, you can fail an exam even if you know the subject matter. This happened to me many times.

@thejakobistable 4 жыл бұрын

18:00 there is no having "no motivation" and that is already proven. Your motivation is just "pointing into the wrong direction" but that can be adjusted. Look up HealthyGamer Webinars its free

@ToriKo_ 4 жыл бұрын

Haha it’s weird to hear someone talk about Dr K outside that particular side of KZfaq/twitch

@jeroen9637 4 жыл бұрын

I'm looking forward to see how big Marshall's beard will be in mid December :)

@bozmundarts2614 4 жыл бұрын

sorry but he shaved it for the bridgman bootcamp- this is probably from about three weeks ago lol.

@jeroen9637 4 жыл бұрын

@@bozmundarts2614 Really? What a shame. It looks good on him.

@PrashanSubasinghe 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall gave me goosebumps with the golden pipes at the end! when is the musical coming out?

@Haruyuki_Art 4 жыл бұрын

i had fun thank you

@TCOTTREL2 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious, is there a waitlist or other info on Proko 2.0? I'm very interested in a community based learning system!!

@BigDomski 4 жыл бұрын

I'm finding Stan more and more relatable with each podcast. My dad ALSO moved out a year before my whole family (UK tho, not US), and I also couldn't speak English at all. Everything I was taught at school didn't mean jack, but I was only 10 when I came here so there's that. I was thrown into class just like Stan says, and I had a teacher take me away (Polish speaker) for some lessons. I've learned a ton from this, and 3 years later I was fluent, and top of my class in secondary school. I lost all my interest in academics by the time I was 16 though.

@LL_-wf1tw 4 жыл бұрын

Good for those mentally healthy :) If you are suffering from perfectionism your biggest goal is just to be able to keep training :) No matter how much you love to subject, keeping the fear in check will consume 90% of your energy.

@TC_Hero7 4 жыл бұрын

that intro LOL... marshall cracks me up

@DennisCNolasco 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, this is one of the best thumbnails yet :P

@JoseasArt Жыл бұрын

I was in ESL too! Similar situation but I had returned from Mexico after a decade! 8:40

@marshallzazen7235 4 жыл бұрын

As a man who has conducted Child care for asperger's and autistic children from an early age. I concur greatly with the disability statement. As an internet socialite of the funny animal variety (taking a joke from Stan Lee about that genre) I also agree that even adults have mental issues in all walks of life that may be witnessed. The internet isn't very good at being anything but neutral. An absolute learning I'd say. It has both styles of your good and bad learning simultaneously but the instantaneous nature if wielded correctly is a great sword. Many people on the internet exist as pseudonyms with entire lives hidden from view and it assists them from abusive pasts. The only danger I believe a good student has is the comfort of the mask itself to detain walking from one room to the next. My own experience of therapy assisted me with "allowing" the self. Automatic Drawing still continues to be an excellent tool for this as well. Almost zen if I were to equate it as a different name. Therein is the absolute edifice of imposter syndrome taken by the internet to its furthest extent. Because of this we must be very direct in our hearts. Even self consciousness can be injurious. Marshall's singing is lovely. Rhyming isnt needed but his efforts are wonderful all the same. :D I look forward to your opinions on composition! It is clear for Mr Vandruff that it extends far beyond the scope of what dimensions we are capturing inside a canvas. Keep up the wonderful work you two.

@fspc4 Жыл бұрын

salkjghaslgjaslghjasklghaskljg marshall is insane i love him, just watched the intro 3 times already XD

@milkbread5036 3 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail hahahahahaha! i love it

@v-buckschan111 4 жыл бұрын

Man , these thumbnails are like 👌👌👌

@Di-qh8cr 4 жыл бұрын

The thumbnail made my day lmao

@stedilorenzo 4 жыл бұрын

I think I have a good question for Marshall and Stan. What number should I call to leave them a voicemail?

@v-buckschan111 4 жыл бұрын

Why does everyone's complimenting Marshal but not proko 😂

@Chessbox09 4 жыл бұрын

I guess because were already so used to him lol

@Disirablepossessions 4 жыл бұрын

Composition a great subject.

@mantoskeeee 4 жыл бұрын

The intro ;DD

@voodoogroove8209 4 жыл бұрын

I kept watching the wind moving the trees outside Marshall's window...

@partypao 2 жыл бұрын

I think the main reason of lack of motivation is a lack of art philosophy, or your own philosophy of art: What is art? What is art for you? What is its purpose? etc. Purpose is the driving force of motivation. Without purpose there is no meaning. Maybe you should make an episode on that.

@rahulkukreja4537 4 жыл бұрын

Proko ur story sounds so similar to rey bustos, i really wished you did an interview with him.

@mitza420 4 жыл бұрын

These thumbnails are getting out of control hahah

@Mulnader 4 жыл бұрын

How can I ignore video with such thumbnail? It can't clickbait! It has to be creative discussion between people who think out of the box! :D

@elporcino5102 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall should make an official ending song for the podcast, just as you have an opening theme xd

@13igorsm 4 жыл бұрын

I wish i was part of a studant and mentor experience unfortunally is no possible in this current time.

@yuteyang6811 4 жыл бұрын

I want perspective course !!!!

@sclh 4 жыл бұрын

So we're just ignoring the twilight series on Stan's desk, huh?

@joaopaints 4 жыл бұрын

the books are pretty good tho

@danielquintana6045 3 жыл бұрын

Marshall's concert When?

@Lavaeolus 4 жыл бұрын

I actually cringed when he burped

@Alexis-ph8zr 3 жыл бұрын

same, :'v, one thing is bullying kids in school, but this is too far

@soumyadipdey426 4 жыл бұрын

That one dislike is from Stan's Spanish teacher.

@izzytheamazing 3 жыл бұрын

Learning how to Learn on Coursera!

@sumitpawaskar1207 4 жыл бұрын

Not realying on motivation, I just got into industry recently, and Its not like I got fun explosion every time I sits to draw for practice or client work but do get when Iam working on something thats my choice and for me.but I still draw or practice a boring subject, because its necessary

@ap_po 4 жыл бұрын

i think one part of being a good student is to actually know where you want to go to and what you need to learn to do so. why enter a lifedrawing anatomy course of proko :3 and learn human anatomy for years when your heart beats for more abstact cartoony stuff and thats what you want to do at the end where such things doesnt hurt to know but are not required while you have other things to focus on to reach your goal.

@anthonypc1 4 жыл бұрын

See you in the Bootcamp sergeant Marshall, on Thursday Friday Saturday

@psbbianforlife 4 жыл бұрын

please tell me you are working on the perspective course. don't play with my heart

@Disirablepossessions 4 жыл бұрын

You may have talked about that but I didn't hear the discussion.

@SuperFlyGhost 4 жыл бұрын

Ouch Marshall waiting on Stan... Tic toc... Everyone's time is precious

@Disirablepossessions 4 жыл бұрын

Best question when you don't agree or understand "what do you mean?"

@swoch185 4 жыл бұрын

Marshall should do a sing intro at the start of every episode

@birdbrainz9834 4 жыл бұрын

I was able to get in an art school that takes place in middle school collage and high school. So it’s weird when I try to figure out what it is like in art school because they talk about collage! Lol... 😂👌

@markjohnson8607 4 жыл бұрын

Ayeee

@mkAYY825 4 жыл бұрын

in irish high schools they teach NOTHING about how to draw, in fact, i have my doubts about the univerties too

@DescartesDooley 4 жыл бұрын

This is why I chose animation back in the day. It was clear that the classical drawing training for animators was heads n shoulders above all the other art schools in Dublin I visited.

@hopeitstix1627 4 жыл бұрын

Stan says that he had natural drive and passion. what if you don't what if you are depressed and don't have drive and passion to do anything?

@flauschekugel2821 3 жыл бұрын

Prokos burp sounded like a demon from hell omg

@mustardcustard9381 4 жыл бұрын

Proko had Animation classes in high school and was sent to an expensive Atelier in his teens! Wow, earlier life was very different for me growing up in a small impoverished town in Wales, UK. Shame we can't all have an equal start.