Spot on! I maintain that character work and atomsphere are the most important aspects to a story. You could have the tightest, most well written plot in the world, but without compelling characters no one would really care.

that makes sense. and i would agree with that. Harry Potter has great characters that are fun and relatable. I think that makes it more enjoyable. That said, LoTR is still enjoyable too.

@@pOOL_pANTS I don't think it's fair to compare both of those series. Aside from sharing the Fantasy moniker, they do completely different things.

haha that is true! good point. i forgot he enjoys Buffy.

I believe he has said before that Buffy has the same issues

Nah, is not the same. Kids die in howarts because the place is dangerous for kids, in Buffy they get attack by an external force that is not part of their day life.

@@ominae1 The only kids that have died at Hogwarts are because of External Forces. No one's died because of somehting that's just casually at the school

@@Cyberleader672 Film 1: troll in the dungeon. I guess it's debatable where the troll came from, but a forest on school grounds with creatures like the giant spider, etc. Hogwarts should not be legal.

theere was a lot of talent in the HP series. agreed!

I'm 23, never liked Harry Potter, had a girlfriend a couple years ago that loved it, I watched all of them, I didn't care for it and still hated it. Got a new girlfriend now that made me watch it and now I really like it. Believe me, I never thought I'd be defending Harry Potter in any way but never agree or disagree with someone that hasn't explained why or provided any reasons as to why they think what they do. They said in this video to paraphrase 'it isn't written well and the world building is bad' ... Okay... Tell me why? It's very easy to say something is good or bad but for some people it's a bit difficult to explain why.

@@Sean-gi5vsKnowing the series, I think there are some flaws in the world-building. Not so much as what we get in teen-dystopia franchises mind you, but still some problems here and there.

@@Sean-gi5vs that's a very mature and respectful take. I appreciate your comment! I think there's a lot of good and enjoyable story telling in both HP and LoTR. But unfortunately we tend to compare them because of the fantasy genre. I think they can be both enjoyed equally but seperately.

@@Sean-gi5vs You'll get every single 'why' when EFAP decide to go through it. It really isn't difficult to spot big flaws in HP though. Like MauLer says here, they just casually introduce time travel, and I made the jokes with my best friend that if they had any proper security at all, Harry would've been stopped possibly every single time. There are a lot of things they can do with magic and a lot of normal things they can't do for some reason.

​​@@Sean-gi5vscasual time travel, overpowered magic concepts they didn't think to use, how the hell their government works to begin with, how do they solve these magical crimes though is a bigger concern. Of course why the hell is the transportation to hogwarts on a train when they can teleport no problem to and from any location, does Hogwarts have a protective spell against teleportation and how does that work exactly, how come Albus wasn't affected? If they have all these advanced spells keeping the entire school safe how come they don't have magic that allows them to record the locations where students can freely use as well as restricted areas where security can be compromised, cause that would've helped in 1 and 2...and 3...and 4...and 5...and 6. If there are wizards and magical folk all across the globe with their own government and laws how come no body gave a shit about sending reinforcements to aid Hogwarts when Anti Christ Hitler basically gathered all his allies to attack a single school? Was this ever explained deeply in the books cause the movies didn't say a lot...like a lot, lot. Apparently dragons of that size exist but how come neither the good or bad guys ever used them hell they could send them to just do maximum damage and chaos and since Voldemort is there he could just use his God Wand to do i if not do what they did in the first place fire a shit ton of magical lasers, which begs to differ are Dragoms in their world immune or highly resistent to magic? If so wouldn't the prospect of training them and raising them to do your bidding be worth while doing?

i feel the same way.

man i loved goosebumps growing up! thanks for the memory joggle. happy holidays

Ya

that would be great. especially since they seem to have a great eye for details I tend to miss. I tend to agree with most of their rants

That'd be cool

there's a lot of relatable things happening in HP

i agree

Lol sometimes it be that way. 🎱🩳

Lol that is a fair point.

i wonder if the Drinker would feel differently about it if he had grown up with it? Most of us that grew up with it have a sense of nostalgia for it and maybe it has inconsistencies but it's fun. 🎱🩳

I'm not a fan of time travel story lines because of obvious paradox and loop holes that need to be addressed with each story. Drinker and Mauler have said it many times, the mechanics of the universe need to stay consistent otherwise you'll lose the audience and the suspension of disbelief is gone.

Mauler's critique would interest me, but the way he is critiquing stuff, he will be barely done with the Star Wars movies by age 30. Though you might disagree, he does pick up on a lot of quite objective aspects of a movie he is critiquing. This was an off-hand comment about the films, which is what much of his non-EFAP and not main channel takes are about. And I would not shame them/blame them for doing so as many people do, let alone many movie critics. It takes time and effort to lay out your argument, even in a half-assed comment on some website. Many people don't have that time and/or might not be interested in spending that time this way. But I get why you would be frustrated. I am a big Tolkien fan. Many people have many interesting and, to me, frustrating views on Tolkien. Unless I am looking for some food for thought, I do not listen to those off-hand comments as they are not worth it. The best you can get from this video of their opinions is to gauge their opinions of something and whether you align with them enough or not to watch more of their content.

i agree. Mauler picks up a lot things and tries to be objective.

ya it is kind of a narrative cheat device with the soft magic system. But i believe the books better explain the rules and there is a lot more consistency. But the movies may not portray it as well. 🎱🩳 cheers mate!

it is meant for the masses so i can see not everyone liking it. agree with your assessment mate! cheers 🎱🩳

What is W

@@ironknee1632 Good

Win

That's a fair take. Are you referring to only the Fantastic Beasts series, Harry Potter, or both?

I dunno, I liked the HP movies, but I I'm so done with spinoff shows/movies that I don't care anymore

@@theobserver3299 It's going in the same boat as Star Wars and LotR. The original 7 books and 8 movies are great. They started ruining everything with Fantastic Beasts, just like The Force Awakens and The Hobbit.

i dont always agree with him either, but I do respect his opinions. HP is enjoyable and can be enjoyed and at the same time enjoying LoTR for different reasons.

the spin off shows are cash grabs for sure.

Something about Drinker that I've realized is that he's more into stories (books or movies) that have a sense of grounded reality in some way. Weird thing to say, considering that you've brought up that "his opinions sometimes don't square with reality" comment, so let me explain. From what I've learned about Drinker in the "about the author" in his novel, he got the part of a WWII soldier in a film and had to go to military boot camp in preparation for the role (although, I think it was a supporting role). The training helped form a newfound respect for the military and an interest in its history, including past and present conflicts. This ultimately led to his writing career and success in creating the Ryan Drake series. With that in mind, it goes to show that he's very much into stories that have a sense of realism, especially in showcasing masculinity in men. But I think that also is why his opinions can be clouded and not as realistic in certain ways, due to his own experiences. But then again, we all judge things based on our own experiences, whether if we know it or not.

I understand his frustration but I think there's room to enjoy both pieces of work.

Lol. I dont know if I agree with that. I think simply he is disgusted that HP really doesn't have the same weight and depth of thinking as LoTR, yet HP is more popular. Same can be said with Pop music, and other literary works.

Harry Potter doesn't have the same world building as Lotr but Harry Potter by far has the better characters and a more interesting plot.Thats why people like Harry Potter better.Its more fun and the characters are well made and actually have some complexity to them.LOTR characters beside Boromir just fell flat for me. @@pOOL_pANTS

@@pOOL_pANTS Who said that HP is more popular? It came out much later when LOTR already had an iconic status, and right after that the movie trilogy was released. However, dumb teenage distopyas (Hunger Games, Divergent, Maze Runner) definitely don't deserve their fame.

While his books aren't as popular as Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings, to say that they never took off is false. He actually became a bestseller with his Ryan Drake novels and has made a small fortune because of them. Even his KZfaq channel has made him far more well known now. His dislike of Harry Potter isn't one of jealousy, it sounds more like annoyance. In fact, it reminds me of the kind of annoyance a friend of mine had for Pokemon back in the day. I remember when that IP was everywhere as a kid in the 2000s era. And Harry Potter is pretty much like that for Drinker, because it too was everywhere for a long while. Even his critiques of the series are valid, although not all of them.

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p I would argue that Hunger Games deserves some of its success, mainly because it has a realistic view on warfare, PTSD, and fascist societies. Even how it approaches moral and immoral questions is something I don't see done very well other teenage-driven stories. The love triangle was a headache, but it always felt like it was done as a cliche. I think it was the movies that made the popularity and hype too high.

What’s an L take?

@@ironknee1632 this talk of Harry Potter.

It's a W.HP has some good character work,retarded plot and world building.​@@wardjunior1450

capital L takes

I don't agree with Drinker on everything and this is one of them. That said, I can understand why he doesn't like Harry Potter. His generation grew up with Lord of the Rings, which even I have to admit is the superior fantasy series to Harry Potter. That said, I freaking love Harry Potter.