The one comment about being a "even being a queer POC and not being able to get a job" says more than they wanted it to. It's a sign that companies are starting to realize they literally can't afford to just hire based on those things because they aren't making money. It's almost as if now there will have to be decisions based on merit and profitability.

People are watching the "old stuff" because it IS better.

Re: the quote from the Breitbart article - _"“As a showrunner who is a queer woman of color and I can't get work? That's saying a lot."_ Interesting. That sounds like like an admission that "white privilege" is a hoax. I think she just accidently said the quiet part out loud.

Funny. The writers went on strike in 2023 just to be out of a job in 2024. Oh well.

Hollywood have no one to blame but their own relentless activist preaching. Sounds like justice to me.

4:25 "As queer woman of color, I can't get work..." I think you just answered your own question. People are sick of your 'identity" crap! The check-boxes have been chucked.

I just don’t have it in me to care that all these woke activists and strikers now can’t find jobs, after spending years saying the audience was the problem.

If the “entertainment” industry would get back to entertaining instead of reeducation people would buy it.

When you're not even allowed to acknowledge what the real problem is, there is a 0% chance that you're gonna fix it.

To quote, of all people, Rachel Zegler, "That's Hollywood, baby!"

"Even me, a queer WoC". Either she is self aware enough to realise that those cards got her jobs in the past, or so out of touch she genuinely doesnt understand why she's not owed work anymore. Its genuinely impressive how the established writers used that union strike to protect themselves and their friends at the cost of the newer members.

"People don't like our HR rhetoric so we'll put our HR rhetoric in things people do like, and that will force them to like our HR rhetoric!" "What if the rhetoric puts them off all the IPs we buy instead?" "Nahhh, it'll be fine."

"I'm a queer woman of color and I can't get a job" "I've won 3 Emmies for my work and I can't get a job" Anyone else see a huge difference in the 2 statements??

If you're a European screenwriter, now is the chance! I'm an indie screenwriter and I never had this many chances to pitch my projects before while at the same time building a channel. People are hungry for new blood and studios are actively looking outside of Hollywood. I had good luck at European film markets. Hollywood writers brought this on themselves.

"Oh no, what happened? Oh no, how terrible! That's just awful, how terrible oh no!"

It's amazing that some people are still in denial that Hollywood is in trouble.

As a famous US president once told coal miners in WV...'Learn to code...'

Writers and showrunners can always "learn to code."

Speaking of going back to the classics, how many are going back to collecting physical media (Bluray, DVD) of their favourite movies & TV shows? I know I am. I've almost given up on streaming services and my Bluray collection is ballooning.

The fact that Russell T Davies still has a job is amazing to me

Little Platoon nailed it when he remarked that younger generations, instead of having nothing to call their own, have twitch and tiktok. An endless flow of fleeting shimmers, and i think it perfectly fits this age of the 6 second attention span, where putting real effort into something is pretty fucking rare.

There were like 500+ shows a year getting made, and they wanted all of them to have a writer's room of at least 10 people (with quotas for DIE). No wonder standards were so low and that a lot of hacks are about to go broke.

Self inflicted damage across your industry. Now comes the reconing.🤣🤣🤣

K-dramas alone are light years ahead of 99% of stuff being churned out of Hollywood.

"You reap what you sow." In my opinion, this summs up the situation quite nicely.

People need food, clothing, and shelter. We don't NEED anything that Hollywood currently produces. We can always do a million other things for leisure time-- older movies/tv, books, KZfaq, video games (although the AAA gaming industry is infected by the "mind virus" and is crashing). That's just media consumption; think about all the non-media hobbies that exist.

Budget cuts and DEI are top reasons for why "entertainment" has been declining. There is another major factor though, that has yet to be discussed---the co-opting of our school system. I can remember this starting back in the 1970's. Suddenly, in school, "Individuality", "Creativity", and "Imagination" were seen as negative traits to be punished. Imagination and Creativity were beaten out of school children. Success in school become solely dependent upon "following the herd". Corporations would no longer hire bright, creative people, as such people would "rock the boat". Gen X was the first to suffer under this oppression. And, it has only gotten worse with each successive generation. By the late 90's, the market for unique clothing and artistic items had dropped dramatically. The new trend was to be just like everyone else---a walking stereotype. After 2000, the lack of new creative talent began to show in Hollywood, with more sequels, prequels, remakes, and rehashes. Even if we reversed these trends today, it would still take two decades to see improvement. True, there are still intelligent, creative people out there. But, they turned their backs on society, long ago.

My wife and I are watching through Stargate SG1 again. It holds up surprisingly well!! It's crazy a show like that.Could film on a different planet in almost every episode, but modern-day crap can't get out of the green screen room.

Oppenheimer's not a franchise? Hot damn, I was looking forward to Oppenheimer vs Godzilla 😢 \m/

We all saw this coming. I'm shocked how out of touch Hollywood workers are. When the actors & writers did their strike, we all said, this will end badly! They didn't listen. Now I wonder if there's enough Starbucks to employ all these people?

There's a new phenomenon that's beginning to take shape -- people are still watching movies and shows, but they're either discovering or rediscovering the ones that were made years ago. Friends, The Sopranos, and, thanks to Riverdale, even Twin Peaks have apparently become enormously popular with Gen Z.

It's almost like insulting your customers hurts your business.

Wifey and I are finishing up "Murder, She Wrote" and next we are going to do "L.A. Law".

The Hollywood strike made more folks realize that it is not really needed as before. KZfaq, manga, anime, indie comics, video games, fiction podcasts, classic books and TV and movies and hobbies filled the void. Oh, and nature.

I’ve started The X-Files on Hulu. Having never watched it I’m enjoying the practical effects.

I have seen MLM recruits in less denial than Hollywood is in…

Well, they alienated 50% of the audience no? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

5 1/2 years at a VFX house in LA, and was laid off on - wait for it - April 1st. Honestly, given how long things have been so damned slow, I'm grateful they held onto so many of us for so long. I started making escape plans last year, so the recent layoffs came as no surprise. Rather, this enforced opportunity shouts: Go Do Your Own Thing. After all, what better proof is there that Hollywood hasn't a clue than a self-inflicted, Industry-wide Depression, eh?

ChatGPT might not write well, but at least it won't insult me

🤷‍♂️ "Good times, create weak people. Hard times create strong people" It's very rare to get a good writer without a life with hard times and experiences

We are blaming only the small or medium people like writers producers etc but not the executives, owners and stakeholders for forcing the industry to adopt certain concepts, beliefs and ideas that are directly responsible for the declining quality and viewership

I seem to recall these same writers calling us all trolls and bots back when we mentioned they should learn a trade a few years ago.

I believe that about people watching older shows. I just rewatched In Plain Sight and Mr Robot and am currently slogging through LA Law.

This is what happens when an industry pursues political goals instead of economic ones. But because they are afraid to speak out they will wear their straitjacket to the grave.

"I don't know if I'll ever forgive Hollywood for this." Same, lady. Same. Only difference is, Hollywood needs my forgiveness. It doesn't need yours

Reminds me as a child when my Dad lost his job when the rubber plant was closed after a strike. How about the Twinkie plant? You can't price yourself above the value of what you do. Get ready min-wage people as the Dems put you out of work.

With the collapse of Hollywood actual old Nostalgia shops like a VideoStore would mop up. I miss my Videostore and the fun of going with friends to find something to rent.

And all their problems can be run right back to their woke-ism.

The other day I saw a video of a guy, I think he may have been a state legislator, wearing a wig, a ridiculous amount of make up, and a dress, standing in front of a microphone saying don't look at me like I'm mentally disturbed. I kind of got that same feeling listening to that quote from the writer who said you know things are bad when a black queer woman like me can't find work. My reaction to both is, okay, so is this just a rhetorical exercise? They are both the same person. Both believe they are entitled to a job or some level of respect because they have gone out of their way to check the boxes required in the identity hierarchy of victimhood. Just 10 years ago you may have heard someone say; "I deserve some respect, I mean it's not like I'm standing up here wearing a wig and a dress" or "You know times are tough when someone with a long track record of success can't find work." Today we don't inhabit that old world but I think at least as far as entertainment is concerned we are seeing a return to normalcy. Nature has a way of returning to a state equilibrium. It's a natural tendency inherent to all ecosystems. Anyone who has studied systems theory understands that axiom. Entertainment, like politics, generally runs downstream from the culture. Hollywood has tried to reverse that, tried to drive the train since the mid-1950s but at the end of the day people want good stories. People don't have the amount of disposable income they once did so they are becoming more discerning about how they spend what little they have. Independent films made on smaller budgets are enjoying a greater ROI and theaters are catching on, giving them access to more screens and when they aren't running indie films they are running old TV shows and rerunning movies with proven appeal. Hollywood is dying the death it has been working toward for all these years. DIE is better acronym for the studios then DEI. May it not rest in peace.

When a person can create something on their laptop in the kitchen for pennies that is more interesting than anything Hollywood can make with a hundred million dollar budget, you know you are in trouble.

It was not only better it was also cleaner. Parents want something they can watch with their kids.

When the writers went on strike, what did they think would happen? The budgets weren’t going to change for the projects. For example, if the budget was 100k and the writers got 33k before the strike, the studios could hire 3 writers. Now they get paid 50k, the studios will just hire 2 of them now, not increase the budget to 150k!!

I’m a Set Decorator in Hollywood, and it’s been absolutely brutal.

When Hollywood makes plans to remake 'The Crow' I draw the line

The shitty thing is, this hits all us smaller guys as well, and the most actually. Animators are basically out of work, because of the garbage decisions of the higher ups.

This conversation is incomplete without mention of DEI initiatives being put forward by large, global asset managers. On the topic of Barbie and Mario Bros- Yes, they are original ideas that were received horribly. They may have gotten people into the theaters, but they will NOT be getting them back. And that’s sad.

I think part of it is just that instead of making 100 projects that cost $1 million that all earn $5 million, and then making an event blockbuster for $100 million, studios are just spending $200 million on one project. I think that Apple literally gave every film project they made a $200 million budget even though none of those movies really needed that much money.

They were OK with DEI till it came for THEIR jobs...

9:13 Me literally just watching Murdoch Mysteries from 2008 rather than anything produced today

There is often the assumption that everyone who works in the film/TV industry is talented & acting in good faith. My experience has shown me time & again that this simply isn't true. Film/TV is a high status industry & as such attracts people for whom status is important (narcissistic types for example), regardless of talent, ability or even competence.

Regarding reverting to old content - I recently bought the complete Magnum P.I. series (Tom Selleck). I watched some of reruns of the show in the early 2000's but never came close to seeing the whole series. Now, with all the garbage being produced, experiencing a quality show that's new (to me, at least) is such a breath of fresh air - even in standard resolution DVD

loooool As a lil ol' straight, conservative white girl I'm SHOCKED that I still have a job at Warner Bros.

part of the reason is that the state of California is too expensive to operate out of, hence why a vast majority of the layoffs, across all industries, are in California. We are about to see one of the world's largest economies collapse itself.

Here's a major contraction for Hollywood: DON'T.

A successful business pleases its customers. What customer ever said they wanted to see an endless stream of remakes and sequels all slanted to a narrow political view? It's absurd to believe that would ever work. Reality matters.

What's worse than a depression? That's Hollywood in 3 years.🎉

As someone who just binged all the seasons of Bewitched on You Tube, Baggage Claim's point is spot on.

Film and TV are losing money and so the supply of workers exceeds the demand. Simple economics, I know, but I wouldn't expect most of Hollywood to understand this.

Writers and showrunners can always \

I'm 30, and what shows have I watched recently? Kung Fu Panda (the first one), Stargate, Tremors, and occasionally a bit of Star Wars the Bad Batch, the last of which I only watch because it's short enough to watch while running on the treadmill. I am no longer excited about any new shows, I'll go watch old stuff I was too young for when it came out, and I've been enjoying it a lot more than the new stuff.

I never really thought about kids today not having anything that is there's. My generation had dbz, power rangers, Jurassic park, then the teens moved into total request live and jackass. I could list endless shows for days that defined my generation.

What the world needs now is for someone to give Chris Nolan and Denis Villeneuve half a billion dollars and tell them to collaborate on making something big, wild, original, funny and insane. The world needs a huge crazy original movie like The Fifth Element. Remakes and reboots are dead. Those are like reheating last night's junk food.

And nothing of value was lost.

On older material to watch , I'm amazed at how many old movies are returning to the cinema this year.The headlines being the Spiderman movies and Star wars but Cineworld are advertising Demoliton Man and Commando being shown again.

My 18 year old son and his mates are all listening to old music, old TV shows and old movies because of the quality.

I've been rewatching Chuck and The Office over and over because everything sucks right now.

They push out one movie or show after another and tell us this isn't for us. Then they blame us and shame us for not going to see the movie that isn't for us. Then they wonder why we don't care that they're out of work.

The problem isn't that Hollywood is making the same crap over and over again. It's that they're making crap. Classic archetypal stories get told again and again because their themes are popular. What matters is telling those stories well, instead of doing a crap job of it.

Glad to see Baggage claim on here again. She's awesome

The economy isn't there anymore, the culture has changed, there just isn't room for the levels of mediocrity we have seen.

Look at a movie or TV show from like 2002, and then look at one from like 2018. The clothes look the same, the cars look pretty much the same, and the furniture looks the same. The only difference is the type of cell phones people are using.

It's like we're in a really bad recession or something...

The writers, showrunners and executives gleefully kicked holes in the bottom of the boat. Now they're crying because the boat sank? Let's face it, all these folks knew what they were doing. They knew that the audience hated their ideological DEI agenda and they arrogantly ignored the audience. Those who could have spoken out against the tide of sewage didn't because they wanted to keep their big salary. Anyhow, now they all have a new line to learn. Do you want fries with that order?

I am waiting for some hard working gen x youngsters to make a weekly “TV” series on KZfaq. No need for expensive cameras, or super expensive sets. Good writing and minimal mindset and they make their money w ad sales, exclusive vignettes, and other creative monetization! These new kids can do it

Putting in a minimum number of writers would have been a stupid idea during the so-called golden age, never mind now when the medium is already almost dead.

"I can't get a job in my field right now." Okay? Boohoo I guess. I mean yeah it sucks but it happens. I have 2 engineering degrees and I haven't been able to find any jobs after I was laid off. So I became a field technician and tester for industrial power breakers. Is it what I went to school for? No. But I adapted to the market. They need to do the same.

Despot had it wrong, dude. I would LOVE to see another Marvel movie... if it was as good as Iron Man or Captain America: The First Avenger. I would be thrilled if there was a new Star Wars movie or TV show... if it had the "feel", like season one of The Mandalorian or Rogue One. We aren't bored. We're just tired of being told we're evil because we happen to be white, male, heterosexual, or some unfortunate combination of the three. THAT is why Hollywood is dying. It's not fan fatigue - we're just tired of being hated.

Maybe they should take the advice the good folks in Hollywood gave the Kentucky miners when they lost their jobs, "learn to code". Sound advice! Maybe they should just learn to code.

Yup , I am going through all the seasons of house. I'm so glad I didn't check it out before

The issue with these people and most people in general is that despite being told that the jobs they want are high risk low employment demand, high demand to be employed temporary work they scoff at you then get surprised and outraged that you were right (I’ve warned so many people who are now experiencing this because they ignored me) it’s as if they believe they can warp reality to suite their wants despite being told otherwise. Which is a general problem with the current generations. They think they can change reality to one where they are always employed no matter what, they think they can change reality so that everything they write is adored by all, they think they can change reality so that they never experience adversity or difficulties ever in their lives.

I remembered those "Starving Artists" commercials they had back in the days. I guess they can do a "Starving Writers" one now.

Love this panel! Hollywood gets what it deserves-expect it to get worse & to inevitably see the end of the Theater chains. Very sad for the normal people in the industry (camera operators, set design, etc)

If Hollywood doesn´t go back to hire based on talent instead of quotas, the future is dark.

Wait a minute... are you telling me that the disastrous gender and racist ideology displays that have been presented as films and TV shows coupled with suicidal writers and actors strikes have led to a depression and contraction of the entertainment industry?! What an entirely unexpected turn of events! Whoever could have predicted it?

DEI doesn't bring in the box office gold

This isn't the first time Hollywood been through this.

Collapse like a cheap tent, hollyweird ...

Is it possible that Star Trek was right and TV will lose its popularity not long after the 2050's (mid 21st century)?

I’ve been watching old B&W TV shows on the Roku channel and they are immensely entertaining! Watching preachy people, who are narcissistic, obnoxious people projecting a sense of life that is something to run from. Run for your life.

3:45 With TLP here. I remember the entitled children of comics in a successful comic book artist's twitter feed crying how even if they got work, it was enough to support themselves. I enjoyed dropping the story of Aaron Sorkin writing A Few Good Men on napkins while he was tending bar at a broadway theatre. Artists working those jobs to support their art has been the way it is for centuries.