New movies are flopping because people have no faith that they will be entertained by these movies. You can't release terrible movie after terrible movie and not expect it to have an effect on the audience. It's like a restaurant giving everyone food poisoning for 5 years straight and then wondering why nobody shows up anymore.

Hollywood " Are we that out of touch? No, of course not. It's the audience that is wrong."

00:00:00 Intro 00:01:21 1997 00:06:01 Furiosa 00:58:03 Acolyte 01:15:14 Upcoming TV show seasons discussion 01:20:54 Upcoming movies & sequels discussion 01:32:50 Tombabdil & Rings of Power 01:54:40 Superchats + random open bar

Why don't they ever blame women for all these female led movies failing?? You made the movie for them and they didn't show, call them names, media fools.

loved the scene of Gandalf meeting Bombadil when Gandalf said "I need your clothes, your boots, and your goldberry"

I have it on good authority that the next series after The Acolyte will be The Womandolorian followed closely by The Transdolorian.

Hollywoke : "The consumer is always wrong" 😂

George Miller = "I have two movie scripts, one with Mad Max and another female centric movie set in the Mad Max Universe without Mad Max." Movie Studio (WB) = "We'll go with the female lead movie because we don't have enough female centric movies."

Fun fact. 1997 was also the last year the UK had any hope or prospects.

You just know Tom Bombadil will be a sorry excuse of a man… but THEN he meets Goldberry, the wise-cracking, tough as nails, heart of gold girl boss who “fixes” him. He’s so wowed by her that he asks her to marry him and she says “marriage is a construct for men to have possession over women” and Tom says “wow you’re so brave and smart” and they form a non-marital partnerdhip based purely on mutual respect… even though she shows him none in the show itself.

And when Kathleen Kennedy saw the breadth of her destruction, she wept, for there were no more franchises to vandalize.

A MAD MAX film without Max Rockatansky? What's next, a James Bond flim with Miss Moneypenny?

The girlboss era we’re currently stuck in is why I don’t want them to make a Mistborn adaptation anytime soon.

They will learn that they don't command the tastes of the audiences. They follow their tastes or fail.

They haven't released a movie I'd want to take anyone to see. They made Napoleon, I got my dad and my grandpa to go see it with me. As we were walking out I pretty much apologized, I didnt know it was gonna be like that. I saw Sound of Freedom with a coworker... Other than that I feel burned.

About Furiosa’s amputation: there’s a famous case of a trapped hiker who had to cut off his own hand to free himself from a boulder. I think the secret to survival is to apply the tourniquet first, before cutting.

We can barely afford to live or even feed ourselves right now, why are we going to go spend our hard-earned money to go be preached at and told we are naturally evil for being white? We only saw 1 movie last year, and that was taking our son to see Mario only after watching several reviews to be sure it was OK for kids.

Half of what made The Crow great was the soundtrack. The Cure Pantera STP Helmut Rollins Band The Jesus and Mary Chain. The soundtrack was incredible and I still listen to it regularly. There isn't one band out their now with even a drop of talent good enough to match that.

“The real twisters are the movies we made along the way.” - Hollywood, probably

The dealing with her arm could have been solved so much better: her arm gets caught between the two huge cars/rigs and gets crushed. You can obviously see that it's broken in multiple places, but there isn't that much blood. She escapes and puts a bandage on it, or for more dramatic effect she could put a tourniquet above the wound. When she finally makes it to the camp and they have a look at the arm, it's broken so badly and/or has started to die due to the tourniquet, that they can't save it and it has to be amputated. Cut to a scene where she's showing severe mental trauma, but then focuses on revenge and realises she needs a prosthetic, so she starts developing one and after a few attempts ends up with the iconic one. This sequence would establish multiple things: 1. It shows how tough and resilient she is when suffering such an injuring and still escaping. 2. It shows that she has a vulnerable side with the trauma of losing her arm. 3. It shows she can bounce back from that trauma. 4. The multiple attempts ending in the iconic prosthetic shows she really IS a competent engineer.

Air Force One from '97 is a great movie. Prime Ford, prime Oldman, tense as hell. Unforgettable cinema experience. Wolfgang Petersen was one of the last modern great directors.

Home theaters made more sense ever since 70 inch and up tvs came out

Oh no, Tom Bombadil, Tom Bombadillo! Flee from this show Before it’s memory-holed like Willow!

I know this isn't why the movies flopped, but I'm tired of seeing praying mantis girl in everything.

Pretorian Jack is the "We have Mad Max at home!" of the movie series. Also he was a more interesting character then the main

2:09:16 Quite honestly, Les Grossman might be my favorite Tom Cruise character ever. Nathan Algren and Vincent are close seconds, but not only was his portrayal brilliant, you could tell he was having SUCH a good time.

I don't know why are people surprised about Furiosa "flopping" because it's not like Fury road made Avatar like money that movie also wasn't a great money making hit it's a good action movie if that's worth something the ending is anticlimactic but that was expected because they need to tie it with the first one

I was told on twitter that Furiosa flopping was "my fault"

It seems to me that there is a logic which explains the failure of all these woke and overly feminist and inclusive films. Mad Max, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Superheroes, Ring Of Power, etc... are all films made primarily for men. As simple as that. Men geeks in particular. Of course women can find satisfaction there. But the target audience will always be young men. So... if you do everything in your power to displease and exclude your target audience, why then be surprised at the lack of success? Helloooo...? Who, in his or her right mind, can expect lines and lines of women waiting outside movie theaters to see a Mad Max movie starring a woman? Obviously not. But did you really have to waste all that time and money to figure it out? The same goes for the wasted Acolyte. Star Wars is primarily for men. All the better if women love it. So much the better if we include more and more female roles. Of course. But Star Wars is for men first. There will never be a crowd of women fighting for a seat to see a Star Wars movie. So, if you are stubborn about wanting to make a Star Wars story with only girl bosses and where the men are mere foils.... well, there you have it. See for yourself. The problem is that the damage is done. People no longer trust woke Hollywood. A movie like ''Fall Guy'' won't attract anyone. Women won't go see an action movie and men will say that it's probably still woke stupidity. Too bad. But remember, Hollywood & Disney: You wanted this.

'97 - The year "Event Horizon" was shown. Also the year the paper "Long Short-Term Memory" (Hochreiter, Schmidhuber) appeared, apparently the most cited paper in Neural Computation (so-called AI)

Phew - $1.8 billion in 1997 would be like a movie grossing $3.4 billion in 2024

they're still telling customers to fuck off... return to hiring fans and fuckin professionals

I dont think bombadil is necessarily a waste of time in the books. He illustrates that there are powerful forces in the world that could defeat the evils in the world but dont because they are simply not concerned about it whether for the right reasons or not. They can just live in their own little space protected by their power and ability and not watch as the world burns until it burns them and theirs. At the end of the return of the king gandalf refers to bombadil as a rock that has sat and gathered moss, while gandalf was himself a rolling stone. (I just listened to the books on tape, i think the hobbit and the fellowship were the strongest books and by the end of return of the king it started getting a little boring. Tolkein starts padding words more and more starting about halfway through book 2, especially with names. He refered to people by their full family reference like 6 times in one paragraph one time

1:15, I have an old Star Wars mug at work. It causes about 1 uncomfortable conversation a week. When people say “so you’re a Star Wars fan?” I usually says “well, the old stuff”. Then quickly change the subject 😂 luckily it’s a pre-Disney mug and it has every lightsaber on it pre-Disney. Kit Fisto and Asajj Vebtress included. Disney haven’t fucked them up yet to my knowledge. I shouldn’t give them ideas. Who knows, maybe they already have! I haven’t watched disney Star Wars in years now.

Every single poster or promotional piece on this movie features the lead character making the same AOC crazy eye face and staring off into the distance.

My theater-going has increased about 20-fold post Covid. One to three times a week.

FYI June 8-10 The re-release of LOTR in Imax, I can't wait.

The Chumbawumba song had the line "Drinking the night away", so I thought it would get a bit more respect.

I enjoyed Furiosa. A shame it's flopping. The general public doesn't really care for the theater experience rn and I dont blame them

Bridge welder here, my welds are ultrasounded. Yeah QC is BIG deal

Thank you I've always found the boys to be extremely cringy since episode one. I felt like every script writing process started with, "You know what would be fucked up?"

The dilemma used to be wasting time and money for a movie that was not as entertaining as you hoped. Now the worry is walking into a 3 hour propaganda piece.

Reaper really makes me laugh with his observations of the absurdities he's seen on screen. Bring him back early and often, guys.

If Tom Bombadil is a colorful male character in the books, you can bet they are going to make him a twerking queer non-binary to represent the modern audience, like they did with doctor Who!

Still not sure how I got in to see Titanic as a little 10 year old. Couldn’t stop crying when I left the theater.

I think it would be funnier if instead of reviewing the acolyte after it came out, the guys just ignor on the grounds that noone cares. 🤔

Part of the reason we go to the cinema less is the cost. I end up paying for five people which ends up to be $50 for tickets and $30 for popcorn and drinks. So it competes with streaming in a few weeks for free/$15 per month vs $80 for seeing in the theatre as well as other activities. This means that if there is any reason to not go we don’t go.

You'll have to go back to 1924 facts/trivia/movies, when you reach Open Bar #124.

Reaper is the best, favourite guest.

Beyond Thunder Dome had a Tina Turner song with it: “we don’t need another HER-ooooh” (so they utilized her well!) 😉

Back onto the start of the podcast why movies are not doing well. Everything has gone up in price and most people simply can’t afford to go multiple times now as the average salary hasn’t gone up

i will fully admit i hardly ever go to the movies anymore, for the sole reason that i just can't stand the other people that go. i pay $20 for one ticket and have some stupid millennial playing video games on their phone to my left and a boomer couple carrying on a conversation at full volume to my right. every fucking time. it just isn't worth $20 to sit there fuming when you're supposed to be enjoying a film.

Open bar 100 will be like looking at one of those picture collages. Everyone's screen space will be 1cm in size.

I was ok with Fury road because I figured it would reintroduce us to Max and add a new character for side spin off. But they waited too long, the game should have had more to it, the new movie would have not used Max’s name in the title (should have been ‘a road warrior tale’ or something). People would have the same feelings if there was a second Judge Dread movie off the new movie but following his partner from the first. It’s been too long and bait and switch will be a no go.

The Acolyte will “explain” Anakin’s immaculate conception and it will probably break something.

Reaper's accent is great. Especially when he's insulting Hollywood and their dumbsh*t decisions. And most people aren't watching movies in the theaters because the whole experience gets too damn expensive. Then they just throw it up on a streaming service almost right after it comes out.

It’s simple math. If you don’t watch a movie in the cinema it’ll be on streaming within weeks. If it’s worth seeing you can wait a few weeks and it’ll still be available. Plus movie costs, times and incoherence are on the rise but most people have a TV half the size of their sofa just sitting there waiting to be used.

Sorry but I really enjoyed S1 of Buffy

Love me some Metal on the open bar, yeah!

I just want to throw it out there that I love an hour and 45 minutes away from the nearest movie theatre. There has not been one movie in almost 3 years that I’ve even considered driving that far to see.

@59:34 : KK: "operating within these giant franchizes now with social media and the level of expectation it's terrifying." Get out then.

Right at the start I was only listening half to the 1997 facts until "Whales voted to devolve and got their own representation". Wait what? Oh! Wales the country and not whales the species.

I loved this panel! Each guest was awesome and I ALWAYS love hearing reaper talk. Jedi brooks brings great ideas to the table too.

2:36:20 "Walton and Wentworth". Sounds like a shitty law firm. 😂 "Injured in an accident? Call Walton and Wentworth."

Also in 1997: the Pokémon anime first aired. I know this, because the first episode aired nine days before I was born.

It should also be noted that movies' cultural influence has declined as games have advanced in their variety, narrative, impact, and revenue.

Back in 2015, I was excited for 'The Force Awakens.' As it happened, I walked out of the theater vowing to never give Disney my money again. The way the treated Luke and Han was unforgivable. I immediately started looking online for others who shared my opinion of Disney "Star Wars." Almost a decade later, Disney sucks worse than ever but I no longer know anyone who still watches their crap.

My tv is nicer than my local cinema screen

In LOTR movies Gollum has a line where he says give it to me raw. So, ROP stole that line too.

Furiosa losing her arm: Shoulda been Dementus takes her arm cuz he figures out it's a map to The Green Place. Then The Organic Mech heals her and build her new arm. That would ad some to the Mech character (which is a pretty cool character imo) and also help to villainize Dementusa.

I'm not at all worried. They are putting themselves out of business by doing all this 'modern audience' garbage because they live in their little Hollywood/LA woke bubble, same as the game industry. When they have gone we'll get movie makers and game studios who will be in little doubt about what will sell and what won't. In the meantime I'm not going to the movies and I'm playing a backlog of older games sitting at home with a gin and tonic and a comfy chair and ignoring it all. By the way I'm female - and they can shove their 'modern audience' agenda right where the sun doesn't shine,

People can't stay off their phone for 2 hours.

2:27:15 I would second that. The Mad Max game was solid. Lot of good environmental design. Each enemy fortress is unique. The atmosphere overall is amazing. 🧡💛🧡

Regarding houses in movies. What about Rose Red, that house is kinda cool.

Mad Max would need to pull out his old interceptors to win the race. it could have worked.

Jedi Brooks: “I hate what they did to Quey-Gon on the Kenobi show” Mauler: “Whawaa?” Jedi Brooks: “What?”

You wouldn’t have respect for Charlize Theron if you knew what she did to her adopted son.

I first read about Tom Bombadil circa 1976. He is an extremely dynamic, youthful, engaging character in print. My favorite character then and now, but only as written by JRR Tolkien. The movie version appears to be an abomination.

Enjoyed Furiosa more than i was expecting. I agree that it is a failure of Hollywood more than anything else.

1:56:41 Reaper knows.

Shawshank also flopped.

The value proposition of the cinema has steeply declined relative to modern alternatives. We can now get endless entertainment on demand for free, in the comfort of our homes. Going to the cinema is a stressful time-commitment, putting us at the risk of other strangers, in a dubious locale, for an ever increasing price-tag. It's just not worth it. Same reason blockbuster died. Same reason gamestop's going under. Just like every other obsolete product, it's been replaced by a cheaper and/or more convenient option. Some may find it sad, but in 20 years kids will be incredulous that their parents used to go crowd in a dark dank room with a bunch of strangers, just to watch a movie in "the old days".

1:56:23 "Parasite" is a good name for the current situation that is being discussed her.

JUST SAY NO.

The Lost World is really good in my opinion lol I don't get the hate

He’s always been Ryan Reynolds though. I first knew him from Two Guys a girl and a pizza place and he was same then haha. I mean he’s good for what he does

to hell with schleppin to an overpriced theatre...streaming at home with a good smoke is funner.

THey should have had Sydney Sweeney in Furiosa. Sydney has great cans.

They shouldn't have had Mad Max in the title they should have called it "One armed scissor".

Bridge over the River Quaygon

I don't go to the movies anymore because it costs too much. I don't care what movie it is I'll wait.

A great point is made here but gets skipped over: Top Gun Maverick made a billion and a half dollars. Where were all the copycats? Where was our Mad Max version? Where was the Luke Skywalker version? Where was the Arnold Schwarzenegger Predator version? If Hollywood is still ruled by the bottom dollar, why didn't we see a bunch of like-minded movies catering to our attention? We didn't see it because Hollywood is run by activists. And they're not interested in our money. Not ours.

Regarding talking to your kids about what happened in movies back in the 2020's. It'll go something like this. -"This you knows, I be first movie reviewer, and times past I've done the tell. This ain’t one body’s story. It’s the story of us all. We got it via youtube, so you got to listen it and ‘member, ’cause what you hears today you got to tell the birthed tomorrow. I'm looking behind us now, across the count of time, down the long haul into history back. I sees the end what were the start. It was the Pox-Eclipse in movies, full of pain! And out of it were birthed empty seats in the movie houses and fearsome time....... and so on.

I think releasing movies so early in streaming platforms dilutes the urge of excitement and desire to watch it in the big screen. Furiosa was just not that great.

how did you not say pee wee's house from pee wee's big adventure? coolest house ever!

Honestly if that was the appearance of radaghast the brown instead of Tom bombadil it wouldn’t be that bad

Don't forget all the bait and switch tactics they keep using.

Just got back from seeing Furiosa, it was great! I'll be heading back with my son at the weekend

I think the barbinheimer phenomenon was the last 'hurrah' for already-dying theaters. Both movies heavily hyped, both turned out to be mediocre-to-disapointing. Now people are not willing to pay ££££ to go sit in unhygenic surroundings and be disappointed yet again.

Famous quote: "Less is more"