The Dave Chapelle ranking of 0% professional and 99% audience was the final straw.

So you're telling me Hollywood lies, cheats and is just awful in general? The shock. 😂

This whole thing reminds me of a quote from one of my favourite books, "His loyalty could not be bought at any price, but it could be rented suprisingly cheaply"

I used to go solely off of audience scores, but when they came out with “verified” audience, I knew the whole gig was up

I thought that was already well known for many years... A couple clowns called me a conspiracy theorist for pointing out that The Last Jedi always stayed at the same score for weeks. It would have logically gone up and down at least a little bit if the actual score wasn’t already below what they're showing and that's just the set minimum...

Rotten Tomatoes has fake reviews? Imagine my shock.

Rotten tomato legitimacy, and integrity, summed up with one show. “Rings of Power.” 🍅 84% 🍿 34%

Saying Rotten Tomatoes provides balanced and accurate reviews is akin to saying Jimmy Fallon fosters a positive working environment.

One of the most obvious ones to me was Captain Marvel. When I saw all the positive reviews on Rotten Tomatoes, I knew something was up.

The way I used rotten tomatoes is to look at lowest "critic" scores and watch those movies and avoid those highly scored. Works every time.

IMDB reviews for Dial of Destiny were full of 8 or 9 star reviews and when you read the review it was "Nowhere near as good as the first three" or "I went with low expectations and they were met"

it's funny how Netflix One Piece's lowest critic reviews all have lines about complaining that the show tries too much to please fans

If you’re a bottom dwelling reviewer, $50 is $50

We live in the age that every conspiracy theory ends up being true LMAO

We should’ve known they were paid off when they gave TLJ a 90%.

When the film studios have to bribe reviewers for a good copy, you know they are making shit.

I have not read a main stream critics review (unironically) for at least 15 years. There is no point when the reviewers are not being honest.

I always knew this was happening but seriously? For only $50 these critics were willing to do this? Guess that tells you how much their opinions are worth. Nothing. Zero self respect.

You were called a conspiracy theorist if you told people that rotten tomatoes "manipulated" their score. Now there is proof.

Couldn't this sort of thing be seen as misleading investors?

Rotten Tomatoes is the worst method to aggregate reviews, but mainstream critics and Hollywood seem to like it cause it rewards mediocrity. Most mainstream movies or shows won't get under 60% in it, maintaining an illusion of quality.

RT died the day the last jedi score came out!!!

If they can manufacture and lie about something as inconsequential as film reviews, just imagine what the machine is doing with regard to war and politics.

Ever since I saw Batwoman get a higher score than Joker, I knew that sight was rigged. Granted it was earlier than that, but that’s when I started noticing a trend.

To quote Othello: “who steals my purse steals trash…But he that filches from me my good name robs me of that which not enriches him and makes me poor indeed.” How sad that these bribed reviewers regarded their reputations so cheaply!

I just picture it more like the scene from Jurassic Park with Nedry sitting at a Colombian restaurant "Dodson, Dodson, we've got Dodson here" "Tomatoes, Tomatoes, we've got Rotten Tomatoes here" - and no body around gives a sh*t

Fry "I am shocked! Shocked I tell you! Well not that shocked."

The only think i can say is "Just now?" Like, there was a clear fuckery with Captain Marvel when they just straight-up froze % of ratings. And that was ages ago.

Wait, people are shocked by this?

A lesson to all, never trust what a company says at face value. Do research yourself and make up your own damn mind.

I think this is impacting ticket sales as well. I used to go on websites like this to see if a movie was worth it, but now they lie so much that I don’t trust any of these sites. So many times I’ve been disappointed. Awful movies rated at 80% or above! Now I look on KZfaq for non-spoiler reviews instead.

The publishing industry has been plagued with paid for reviews for years.

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain that this has been going on for years. I mean, just look at how the audience score for The Rise of Skywalker stayed at precisely 86% ever since its release, never once fluctuating either way from that percentile, no matter how many more reviews were added. Yet, for years, people like me were told to take our tin foil hats off whenever we called Rotten Tomatoes out on their shenanigans. To all those people who've insulted and belittled people like me (you know, people with an actual brain, who are able to see clear manipulation of scores), get on your knees and apologise.

Like Chris said I think it’s less so the money & more so the power of being invited by studios to premiers and getting first access and special treatment by the studios, every media company and journalist wants the first exclusive look and story, the second you don’t play ball they won’t either.

Chris Gore explains Prince Harry’s book being a bestseller. 😂

If game companies buy KZfaq reviews and let’s plays (which they do) then yeah movie companies buying critics is way easier

It became blatant during the MCU. For most of the MCU, the RT reviews were mostly that super hero movies were the equivalent of watching children bash two action figures together, but suddenly RT started giving glowing praise to the MCU releases and it was pretty clear there were both kickbacks, and a lot of unknown critics writing up the articles. It used to be a film critic's job to tell you what a film was doing wrong and maybe offer a suggestion for how a scene that fails should have worked. Instead they just affirm whatever the seal clapping dregs want to hear about the film.

Rotten tomatoes can’t be trusted!? (shocked face). I’ve known those people were dirty for years. Especially when they went to the verified audience score to try to boost the numbers on terrible movies, that was bullsh*t. There’s very few people I listen to when it comes to reviews. One of them is a man whose name escapes me at the moment, but he’s very critical, and he drinks a lot.

“I thought the movie was terrible. 4/5 stars! “ Now where’s my 50 bucks! I need some soy latte money for the week.

You can barely even go to the theater to see a movie for $50 anymore!

who wouldve thunk

Glad I don't use review sites to choose my movies

We’ve always felt and suspected this but now there’s definite proof.

Reminds me of the "Positive Review" for A Knights Tale by a movie reviewer that didn't exist at a Bridgewater, Connecticut newspaper. This review that didn't really happen made it to the marketing of the film

Rotten tomatoes - rotten to the core It rhymes, like poetry.

So you're telling me that Dude Where's My Car isn't 96% fresh?

I noticed a long time ago that reviews that were clearly negative were still being given "fresh" status for saying that they liked an actress' dress in a certain scene.

Great discussion. It seems like reviewers across many mediums (films, video games, action figures) are more than happy to give favorable coverage to those who grant them access.

Hope that superchat gentleman is ok? Praying for him🙏

Look at Barbie under verified reviews and look at how many reviews (after the few pages cuz they got caught) for the phrases "I laugh" and "I cried"

This is the reason you’ve become one of the if not the most respected critic. Keep being honest.

~4 years ago we all noticed that _Rise of Skywalker_ was stuck at 86% no matter how many reviews posted. Then whole blocks of reviews were deleted; and the end is listless.

Well....confirming what we all pretty much expected......

Please create your own review platform with trusted critics

There's something I noticed with RT's audience score for the Willow show. While eps were coming out, the score was consistently in the 30s-40s and therefore "rotten". Then some time later, I saw that it had magically been raised to the 70s and thus was now "fresh". Highly suspicious, especially as the show definitely did not have a surge of appreciative viewers after it's initial run. In fact, it was so badly received that they eventually just removed it from Disney+, lol.

Definitely with you, Drinker. I would rather be hated for speaking the truth

About time this got some spotlight! Well in drinker!

I never go off movie review scores anymore. Instead I pay attention to how the review talks about a movie. You can almost always tell if the points brought up are honest. I have disagreed with a couple of the Drinkers reviews in the past, but I always trust his recommendations and opinions coming from a place of truth 👊

I'm glad those reviewers knew their worth, 50$ is still too much for them.

The heads of bunker 15 used to work at disney. Upper Echelon has done a fantastic video detailing who owns who and who is in charge of the reviews and it boils down to only a few people who all worked together previously.

9:56 - Chris Stuckmann - Angry Joe - Grace Randolph - and of course, king of all… John Campea. Also PR firms could make money, if they simply kept their actors, directors and writers shit up… Seriously many films fall because the crew are too stupid and keep making things worse.

One thing people don't mention often is how they categorize reviews (Drinker actually mentions this at 10:40). Meaning how they decide if a review is 'fresh' or 'rotten'. I remember when Man Of Steel came out, a British newspaper gave the film 3/5, with a review that suggested that it was ok with some problems. RT labelled that review 'rotten'. So, of course, if they do that a lot it will really affect the overall rating/percentage.

It's one thing to realize the truth and know what is going on, but to actually get confirmation just feels so relieving in a way.

I worked for Chinese media and I took the media goodie bags because I figured it was pr rather than journalism anyway...

It is the least surprising fact ever revealed.

Rotten Tomatoes gets a Rotten Score. How fitting.

Comedian Mel Brooks was once asked what he thought of critics. "I like them. I like the music they make when they rub their wings together." The interviewer corrected him, "I said critics, not crickets." "Oh. Well I don't like them. They make their money living on other people's garbage."

Corruption in the Entertainment Industry? How did the Critical Doggo not see this?

It’s honestly silly to think that anything else was goin on at this point

Wow, a whole $50 to sell my soul! What a deal. Thanks for your content, Drinker.

Remember a while ago when there was a joint lawsuit about false advertisement in trailers? And actually resulted in a change in how they had to make them? Could the movie critic industry be also sued like that? The whole review industry could count as false advertisement or at the very least bad practices to sue them?

Wasn’t it already known since the whole Cpt Marvel campaign?

Pretty sad, someones honor was worth less then $50.00.

i dont think any of us "normal" people are shocked ?

We all KNEW it. Now we can PROVE it. Job done.

A few television series, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ms. Marvel, & She Hulk have great reviews on RT, I think I'll check them out 🍅

Rotten tomatoes faking reviews? YOU DON'T SAY!

Leigh Brown sounds like a username you make to sound funny when people read your supperchats

The new Little Mermaid has an audience score in the 90s with over 10000 reviews so I don't even know if I trust audience scores anymore.

Jay Sherman said it best 30 years ago-- "I am a movie critic by trade, and until recently, I got paid to tell you people which movies merely stink and which ones you shouldn’t screen near an open flame. Well, I’m putting the burden of lousy movies back on you. It’s very simple: if you stop going to bad movies, they’ll stop making bad movies. If the movie used to be a TV show, just don’t go. After Roman numeral II, give it a rest. If it's a remake of a classic, rent the classic. Tell them you want stories about people, not a hundred million dollars of stunts and explosives. People, it’s up to you. If the movie stinks, just don’t go."

So they’re rotten then?

I thought everyone already knew this...

This and Politics, has taught me to ask for receipts on EVERYTHING. My niece came up to me and told me something she learned in school. I told her to go find reputable sites and print me off some evidence, that what she learned was true. She came back an hour later, and she learned it wasn't true, but she found the actual truth, and printed it off. I gave her a $50 for her time, and told her to never take anybody at their word unless you have proof they are normally honest.

I remember seeing a review on rotten tomatoes from a critic that gave the dark knight rises a rotten score and the reasoning was “it won’t make much sense unless you’ve seen the first two films” - that was it for me

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you…well not that shocked.

I used to work in movie marketing. It happens all the time and has been happening for a long time.

Rotten Tomatoes used to be fairly accurate but things changed when they were bought by Fandango. Fandango also sells movie tickets so that revenue depends on people buying tickets to movies with positive reviews. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. 🙄

So now we know why the scores of Ghostbusters 2016, the last Jedi, captain marvel , and fragging cuties are rated differently by critics than what they should be.

My tattoo shop learned this years ago with Yelp. We had a perfect 5 score for 2 years from good reviews which kept us at the top of the google search(so cheese) then at 2 years they offered to keep our reviews good if we payed them a large amount and if not they would make sure our numbers fell. We littered the shop and the area with stickers and posters about this and still do. They never got their money(bribes) F YELP and the others.

People with common sense and critical thinking already knew this (same as with the award shows), but it's always funny when they get caught red handed!

I've seen examples of the meter randomly changing drastically. Back when Jigsaw was open, I saw that the audience score was like 63%, but the next day it boosted to 95%. And more recently, Indiana Jones 5 had a negative score with a consensus such as (paraphrasing) "There's a nostalgic rush seeing harrison ford back in the role, but it's an unnecessary addition to the franchise". But then eventually the scores turned into a more positive version of that.

"How do you think people become famous, who are morons?" I always thought it was social media lol

It's a damn shame how slow the species crawls. What Chris is saying about the media here, I've been saying since the mid 2000's.

I used to follow Rotten Tomatoes years ago. Nowadays there are a few youtube movie reviewers I watch and trust to get my recommendations. Angry Joe, Chris Stuckman, Jeremy Jahns, Dan Murrell and of course The Drinker!. I will usually try to see at least 2 or 3 of the reviews before deciding to see a movie. I was not going to see Grand Turismo, but positive reviews by these channels got me to go, and I had a good time. These channels have also saved me a lot of money by allowing me to avoid stinkers.

I'm dealing with the review nonsense on my indie film that was released in Aug. It can be very difficult to get reviewers to pay attention to small indie films due to the sheer volume of movies being released. I have a critic friend who gets dozens of requests from indie distributors a week. The only way to get certified critics to review is to pay a PR company, who will then pay them to get the reviews, which will then let you get the stupid red tomato. The red tomato is important for an indie because an average audience member (and importantly, foreign buyers) don't know the difference on this stuff. They want to see the red tomato to justify the time investment to sit down and watch the thing.

No way! Say it isn't so! I don't believe it! 😂 can we call this Reviewersgate?

Knew this for ages! Just look at the site and the reviews it’s like bots wrote the reviews

Just a little reminder who owns Rotten Tomatoes: Warner Bros. Discovery (25%), NBCUniversal (75%). That's basically enough to draw some conclusions.

I have never met a single person who makes decisions on which movies they will watch based on Rotten Tomatoes scores.

The movies are secondary to the “message” through which everything must be judged. Activist critics, pure and simple.