It's a film that seemed to have all the ingredients for success, and yet The Fall Guy opened well below expectations and is on track to be a box office flop. So what happened, and what does this mean for the summer movie season?
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@user-ik8ok9qh2u17 күн бұрын
"Fall Guy" is not an original IP, it's a tv show from the 80's.
@alexandru536917 күн бұрын
And that's the problem why would you make a movie based on IP from 40 years ago? It's bizarre too me
@docsavage864017 күн бұрын
Because they have zero creativity. They'd rather pay for the rights to a familiar name than try to come up with an idea. They're too lazy even just to steal an idea and file off the serial numbers.
@user-ik8ok9qh2u17 күн бұрын
@@docsavage8640 And it wasn't even a good or memorable show, except for the blonde woman who was in it.
@harlequin7517 күн бұрын
thank you. I watched it. It was a great show
@WhiteLivesMatterPL17 күн бұрын
Plus it's mediocre movie.
@JustAboutTime17 күн бұрын
Drinker showing his ‘youthfulness’ by not realizing this movie is NOT original. Those of us who live through the 80’s remember ‘The fall guy’ TV show fondly.
@donkeysaurusrex788117 күн бұрын
It is entirely possible for an American tv show not to be shown in Scotland.
@oukie66617 күн бұрын
@@donkeysaurusrex7881it was, I'm in Scotland and it was shown across the entire UK in the. 80's, back in those days there was only 4 TV channels and I remember when Channel 4 Launched 😂
@YagiChanDan17 күн бұрын
As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP
@donkeysaurusrex788117 күн бұрын
@@oukie666 I stand corrected. You sir have earned my upvote.
@MrJustinOtis17 күн бұрын
I lived through the 80s and wasn't aware of this show.
@paulanderson77116 күн бұрын
You can't capitalize on 1980s nostalgia if you've alienated the actual people who liked the show in the 1980s and told them to eff off.
@mitchellhackman27415 күн бұрын
Very true. I grew up watching this tv show. But with how all the movies and shows are going and ruining Characters I grew up watching and pretended to be. It's just not something I want to see them ruin again.
@jeffreyboyer371414 күн бұрын
I think that was their biggest problem here...just what you state. They pissed too many people off, hence low sales for that 80s nostalgia, which this is clearly trying to capitalize on. I think throwing two big stars in for a "big draw" was another mistake, because all that did was drive up the budget, due to their salary command, for no return, because that same wary public didn't bite, and now you've compounded the mistake with higher cost, and low sales, makes it a "flop." Too bad, because generally, I would totally watch a Fall Guy movie co-starring Emily Blunt, in a normal world.
@michaelwills192612 күн бұрын
@@jeffreyboyer3714I don’t think they’re trying to capitalize off it, I think they’re trying to ruin it.
@rickythompson871812 күн бұрын
C'mon, let's be honest...The Fall Guy TV show was never a show that folk got nostalgic about. It's not Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky and Hutch, The A-Team. Its not even Manimal or Blue Thunder! So, there was no 80's market to capitalize from.
@lovettuduebor190211 күн бұрын
Tell that to Stranger Things.
@bloodydominations99216 күн бұрын
I think it’s an easy one word answer: budget. Why does a generic action comedy cost 140 million? Make it for 50 and you wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
@jefferydraper401914 күн бұрын
Its time to start looking for stories instead of showing us special effects that distract from the terrible stories. The original Mad Max cost $400,000 to make. It brought in $100 MILLION. Why? Because it was a pretty good story. Not the best story, but a decent one.
@plumbthumbs95842 күн бұрын
@@jefferydraper4019 mad max 2 had great characters and acting. great action set-pieces, well filmed, some quote-able moments (Nobody beats the snake!). while 'mad max 1' was campy and fun, it was not the things 2 were. 3 was, well an 80's hot mess, but it had a few moments.
@ITSAHARDNUGLIFEКүн бұрын
Yep, it's a combination of over budgeted films and prices to see things. There's a KZfaqr, Friendly Space Ninja, and on his video about the flops of 2023 blockbusters, he explained how if you were to go for a weekend with a significant other plus popcorn, a drink, and candy; roughly $60. Every weekend for a month; about $325. Back when I was a child, we didn't go to cinemas all the time, just some of the time. We did, however, go to Blockbuster or Video Depot or Hollywood Video all the time. Rent like 1-5 movies maybe a video game or two, come back to return rentals and check something else out.
@CSorginiКүн бұрын
There is absolutely no way that this movie needed anything more than 80 million
@grandmufftwerkin903717 күн бұрын
I think this clearly indicates just how much audience goodwill Hollywood has burnt through.
@Rotom047917 күн бұрын
I still like Hollywood though
@grandmufftwerkin903717 күн бұрын
@@Rotom0479 Awesome! A lot of people don't, clearly demonstrated by low audience participation across multiple entertainment metrics.
@Rotom047917 күн бұрын
@@grandmufftwerkin9037 That's their fault.
@MaryRohwer17 күн бұрын
I think your right about this. It used to be when you asked, "Do you want to see a movie?", the default answer was yes; now the default answer seems to be no. When you hear a movie isn't 'woke', you still ask, does that mean it's only slightly progressive instead of absolutely insane? Also, I feel like a lot of women went into Barbie thinking that it was a romance and ended up feeling betrayed, so now just because a movie seems to be a romantic comedy, there's no reason to think it will deliver.
@Paulin-pw5jx17 күн бұрын
@@grandmufftwerkin9037what do they want fuck ? That movie was great fun I enjoyed it even went twice to see it
@VerilyViscous17 күн бұрын
It's wild that "This movie doesn't hate me" is a notable quality of movies these days.
@davidgantenbein936216 күн бұрын
This is probably the core issue Hollywood has, far bigger than a sleuth of bad writers or an economic downturn at the wrong time or even streaming. People tend to avoid haters once they recognize them.
@boggeddown77816 күн бұрын
Even then you have to squint. The movie might (or even probably) hates you anyway, it just hates you sneakily.
@hansjuker829616 күн бұрын
Rubs hands together.
@paulanderson77116 күн бұрын
It's hilarious to me they tried to get the 1980s nostalgia audience after Hollywood spent the last several years making sure we knew how much they hate middle aged white people.
@CelestialWoodway16 күн бұрын
Poorly written movies that insult the intelligence of the audience-most Hollywood product- is a form of hating the audience.
@specialk942416 күн бұрын
Because Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors. When you think "tough guy, bad-ass" Ryan Gosling is not the name that springs to mind.
@nigelwitgunn340615 күн бұрын
Nor was Lee Majors!
@RantTheRetort15 күн бұрын
@@nigelwitgunn3406For a second I confused Lee Marvin with Lee Majors...whoops, big differnence.
@nigelwitgunn340615 күн бұрын
@@RantTheRetort oh yeah, one of them can act.
@ronburgundy317215 күн бұрын
Even less so after getting bitch slapped in Barbie
@kevinarmstrong47814 күн бұрын
Yeah Ryan Gosling is still just Ken
@SJKPJR00716 күн бұрын
'Superhero fatigue' has metastisized to 'Hollywood fatigue'.
@RenlangRen17 күн бұрын
It is amusing that Hollywood is rebooting ips so old and obscure that even pop culture analysts don’t realize they are reboots.
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
In this case, this is more of poor reflection on the analysts than it is on Hollywood. The Fall Guy is far too well known for Drinker (who did a review on it), not to know. It is even worse that the panel didn't either. At the end of the day, this particular panel knows Disney, Timothy Chalamet , and Lady Gaga movies. Really need Baggage Claim, Nerdrotic, and Echo when talking about other areas of entertainment.
@djgeneralbounce17 күн бұрын
@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy TV show REALLY isn't as well known as you think. As I said before, no one I know who is a regular moviegoer or TV buff knew what it was. The only person I know who's heard of it is my 70 year old mother. I can list a ton of US TV shows that were popular in the UK in the 80s but I can't even find anything online to say which channel screened The Fall Guy here, whereas I can with plenty of others. I would go as far as saying Prisoner Cell Block H (the old Australian prison drama) was more popular over here and that was screened in the late night slot after 11pm in most UK regions. Also the film barely gives any indication its based on an old TV series.
@Usqueadmortem17 күн бұрын
@@jeffhartley7548damn you just dissected this entire channel
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
@@djgeneralbounce respectfully, just because your circle of friends doesn't know The Fall Guy doesn't mean it isn't well known in entertainment circles. I can easily find people that have never heard of Dr Who, LA Law, or Battlestar Galactica. That doesn't mean they aren't well known. Again, check this very comments section where others in the UK have stated that they know it well. Regardless, it is clear that the studio made this film because of its notoriety. For the panel to discuss the film and not know that is sad and embarrassing.
@Ciclopea217 күн бұрын
@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy was such a hit that even in Venezuela where i'm from anyone who lived through the 80's remembers Lee Majors as Colt Seavers in "Profesión Peligro" which was the name of the show in our language.
@kurtl842517 күн бұрын
Hollywood just needs to stop chasing the “blockbuster”. They need to learn to make less expensive movies. They’re now just using expensive effects to cover for crap writing and poor story telling.
@irishspagetti656517 күн бұрын
It can no longer be called a blockbuster if no one goes to see it, the term 'blockbuster' was made because of the massive lines of people wrapped around the block waiting to get in the theater, again it's pretty antiquated because of reserved seating
@inthefade17 күн бұрын
Hollywood are doing too much stimulants. Seriously 2 out of 3 people are on an ADHD drug it seems. Especially in the entertainment industry. It makes them scatterbrained and unproductive.
@Art-is-craft17 күн бұрын
Oppenheimer and Barbie audience is not the normal market place. They are an older market that stopped attending.
@weldsj884717 күн бұрын
Their business model requires the movies to be expensive. They're trying to keep the price of entry so high as to ward off competition. It won't work. We'll be able to make pretty good movies on our phones at this pace. Have you seen those fake 1950s trailer of versions of popular newer IPS? Pretty fantastic and it's only going to get easier for ordinary people to do this soon.
@weldsj884717 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craft With Star Wars, etc. Disney flat out wanted that older market to stay home. For super hits, you need to bring in everybody. Imagine if in the 1980s the Rolling Stones said, "we want a new audience and to shed our 1960s and 1970s fans". Absurd. Instead, they went from a really good band to monsters of rock. Get that new audience but try to keep the old.
@cliffpereira428016 күн бұрын
Fall Guy was a TV show in the 80s. This still counts as a remake.
@cwbrooks532914 күн бұрын
Because like it or not, the demographic that makes "action movies" successful is teen boys, and teen boys are not going to turn out in numbers for Ryan Gosling or Emily Blunt.
@Dude-co6cx17 күн бұрын
Fall Guy was a chick flik disguised as an action movie, and everyone knew it. And Fall Guy IS NOT an "original IP". Dude, that was my fav show as a kid.
@rbu213617 күн бұрын
Done watching Hollywood anything. Sick and tired of woke garbage and ain’t interested to find out whether new movie is or not. Keanu I will watch. That’s about it.
@jayclark828417 күн бұрын
Me too...I'm off to watch some clips of it now. We don't want or need Hollywood...we've effectively put them in economic timeout😂
@BumfluffAddlepate17 күн бұрын
"Dude, that was my fav show as a kid.' And they were counting on that, but even one-celled critters realize just what sort of disgusting necrophiliac hellpit the "entertainment industry" has become and skipped this.
@Art-is-craft17 күн бұрын
That had nothing to do with it. Cinema is dead.
@Dude-co6cx17 күн бұрын
@@rbu2136 I wish but I watch more movies than these guys. Movie theater is my chill place. And there's okay stuff here and there. Abigail was decent. Ungentlemanly was fun. 🤷♂️
@markkar466317 күн бұрын
The public is worried about paying the bills not enriching Hollywood. Screw Hollywood.
@kicknowledgesmith860817 күн бұрын
Im sure that won’t matter for Dead pool
@markkar466317 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 yeah, you're very likely correct. Speaking only for myself I just don't care. I'll just wait till I can buy it at Walmart in the discount bin for five bucks.😂😂
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608 DP 2 was horrible.
@kicknowledgesmith860816 күн бұрын
@@greggibson33 No it wasn't. It wasn't as good as the first but horrible it was not. plus, this will have Wolverine and other cameos, it's going to make a lot of money, No one will use the streaming and being broke excuse for that film. Everyone went to see Barbie, Oppenheimer, Mario, and Spider verse, no problem. Fall Guy looks like the typical Netflix movie.
@donut394615 күн бұрын
@@kicknowledgesmith8608while you are correct, everyone did not go and see those movies. I still haven’t seen them, lol
@zenksren820616 күн бұрын
"Fall Guy was only the most popular 80's show ever in Timbuktu, I fucking trusted you, Drinker!" I agree he could've done a little more research but this still only proves that Hollywood is digging into the mantle below the crust for shit to remake/reboot, the fact it flopped is probably a good sign that virtually no-one knows/remembers the original show.
@jazzdub495815 күн бұрын
the drinker is a simple grifter, not a film reviewer of credibility. remember that.
@johndavidson236516 күн бұрын
It is simple. We of a certain age have seen the fall guy. It was on TV in the 80s. We are not interested in Hollyweird regurgitating old material.
@xmasinpacific13 күн бұрын
I do believe a portion of the audience doesn’t want more reboots or new sequels to old IPs. Unfortunately no one seems to make new quality IPs or botches the execution so badly it’s just trash. The Uncharted IP could be an amazing cinematic world - but what did they do? Take the set pieces from the game and just ram them All together - I predict an airwolf movie in our future haha
@pdzombie190617 күн бұрын
1. It's a known IP by people born before the 90s, but it has nothin to do with the original series... 2. Stars no longer get people in theaters... 3. Movies are too costly, there's now little chance to make its money back... 4. The movie tried to pull a Mr. & Mrs. Smith, but that has nothing to do with the original series... 5. Fans will only go to watch their favorite IPs in cinemas, the rest will only go if it's a worthy experience to leave the house... 6. Poor marketing... 7. Not a memorable movie, why would anybody recommend it if they forget it as soon as they leave the theater...
@bambooblinds17 күн бұрын
wow - yes x7
@thelaughingrouge17 күн бұрын
Exactly
@lawrencetalbot834617 күн бұрын
*add tickets are too expensive But yeah I saw absolutely no reason to go see this. To me, this was just another of those endless movies that I never knew existed until someone on KZfaq talks about it.
@douglatins17 күн бұрын
5 is huge for me. Last 2 times I went to the movies was dune 2 and dune 1
@stacyhamilton261917 күн бұрын
Woodrow Wilson had double as many the points as you do. But WW1 was an original IP. I'm sure if he had survived until 1945 he'd have whittled his down to seven as well.
@YagiChanDan17 күн бұрын
As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP
@bastianogr496017 күн бұрын
Same here. Except I‘m not even from an English speaking country, and still The Fall Guy was my everything as a kid. Along with The A-Team and Riptide ❤️
@BumfluffAddlepate17 күн бұрын
@@bastianogr4960 I bet they'll be getting to the Riptide "re-imagining" real soon.
@Jake-love93917 күн бұрын
@@BumfluffAddlepate Yeah, _Cody_ and _Nick_ will be replaced with two chicks, _Candy_ and _Nickie_ , but _'Boz'_ will still be a a geeky dude.
@feandil66617 күн бұрын
only people above 45-50 have heard of it, this "IP" really has no value nowadays.
@YagiChanDan17 күн бұрын
@@feandil666 bollocks. Look at the demographic and reputation of the panel. They should all have recognised the original TV show.
@notcoachfou784116 күн бұрын
Fall Guy was 80s TV show, NOT new or original IP. My immediate reaction to the preview some months back was "Give me a break..."
@jazzdub495814 күн бұрын
it's the drinker, give him a break. anything outside Disney Star Wars he's in deep waters and drowning.
@robertkincaid355816 күн бұрын
8:56 - 9:12 The first Deadpool is proof that even action-packed, special effects heavy, and heavy CGI movies can be made for less than $75M. (Deadpool's production budget was $58M.) So why movies like Fall Guy cost nearly $150M is mind blowing to me. It's clear that Hollywood has simply lost all sense of what a movie/TV show's budget should be. (And Godzilla Minus One's budget should be the wake up call Hollywood needed. It won the Oscar for best visual effects despite having a budget 1/18th the size of The Marvels budget.)
@cmdrclassified17 күн бұрын
The Fall Guy was a TV series from 1981 till 1986. They even had the old Chevy truck in the movie, along with a modern version.
@n0punint3nd3d17 күн бұрын
They did change the core elements though. Series: Focus on his side job as bounty hunter. Stunts scenes are more like the c-plot. Jodie is his assistant, not his love interest (to my knowledge). Don't get me wrong, that makes it still somewhat of a remake and not an original IP. To me this is somewhat similar to The Equalizer. TV series with an older white guy from the 1980's (thanks to Stacyhamilton2619 for the correction), and now a fantastic Denzel Washington. But I would recon it has not that much to do with the original.
@MrStonelion6317 күн бұрын
Lee Majors
@BumfluffAddlepate17 күн бұрын
@@n0punint3nd3d "Jodie is his assistant, not his love interest (to my knowledge)" Even for Hollywood, a 20 year age difference would've been a bit much.
@lawrencetalbot834617 күн бұрын
Okay and? The point stands there was zero marketing or draw to get customers to go see this, wether they saw the original in the 80s or didn’t.
@stacyhamilton261917 күн бұрын
@@n0punint3nd3dTry an edit where you google the decade the Equalizer is from. I reckon* it's the 80's like The Fall Guy.
@HerbertTwack17 күн бұрын
It's not an original IP. The Fall Guy was a TV series from the 80's, staring Lee Majors as Colt Seavers, as well as Douglas Barr and Heather Thomas. Fun series.
@djassassinuk17 күн бұрын
It was a classic. Who can forget the Lee Majors theme song eh
@daviru0217 күн бұрын
Heather Thomas in the bikini in the opening credits man. I lived for that scene every week
@carlrood445717 күн бұрын
Also had Markie Post before Night Court
@scottmcfadyen-iu6ix17 күн бұрын
It basicly is an original IP because it was from the 80's ! the only people who are going to remember it are those of us over fifty years old !
@daviru0217 күн бұрын
@@carlrood4457 She was hot, too
@denniskai233116 күн бұрын
Why did it flop? Ryan Gosling isn't a convincing tough guy, it looked like a contrived hollywood movie, it didn't hue to the "ethos" of the original Fall Guy, it looked farcical
@ronburgundy317215 күн бұрын
Ryan gosling is never going to be look at as a tough guy after Barbie that movie made him a joke
@AlexJaneson15 күн бұрын
He should do rom-coms
@dwellerofthedark16 күн бұрын
The number one reason…Lee Majors. Ryan Gosling isn’t even a pimple on Lee ‘The Bionic Man’ Majors’ ass. Emotion, comedic timing, and intrigue made this guy a world class star. Second, ‘The Fall Guy’ was a hit TV show that Lee even sang the introductory song. Now, Lee came out of retirement with the new ‘Ash vs the Evil Dead’ series and proved he still could kick ass. And, don’t get me started on Emily Blunt trying to take on the iconic role of Heather Thomas.
@17NateJohnson17 күн бұрын
I think Hollywood has given the middle finger to large portions of their audience, and people aren’t as interested in what they’re doing.
@alexwilliamrussell16 күн бұрын
Hollywood is not making movies with American LowBrow Hero. Fall Guy and Gentlemenly Warfare, Canadians and Brits or european characters . Gosling literally is pretty boy who does hair, not a low brow hero.. And he's not a pushy womanizer, he's not a Burt Reynolds of Stallone, he's a nice Canadian... No movie has a bad boy hero, who fights the system to get rich and bang, it's meek men which is fine but not true escapist.. it's not important but middle class won't support stuff where main character ain't a real rebel who flips off the system.. and Fall Guy with Canadian and Brit shows wow they are not willing to even employ Americans yet wonder why public feels uninterested... Emily Blunt we all know is genius but we want a slutty actress who can barely read as our fantasy... True cheesecake. ..... True zero artsyness...
@CMCAdvanced16 күн бұрын
It's hard to take your girlfriend to see a movie when most women would rather be alone with a bear and you therefore don't have a girlfriend. I think that has a bigger impact on certain movies than we think
@BoondockGore15 күн бұрын
Exactly... the trailer was in the realm of a movie they could bait me with. Can't take the chance
@17NateJohnson15 күн бұрын
@CMCAdvanced ????
@juliorodriguez269415 күн бұрын
Bingo! It's a toxic ex trying to lure you back into the manipulation, and alot of us have simply moved on. Video games are RIGHT behind them
@nathantaylor864317 күн бұрын
Fall guy flopped because it cost to much to make. Movies like Fall guy used to come out all the time 20+ years ago. The difference is they would cost 40-50 million to make. They would gross 150-175 million worldwide and make a small profit then release on home video and make more profit. Hollywood is killing itself with bloated budgets and streaming services.
@sammuslu299216 күн бұрын
Very true
@nobobynnobody15 күн бұрын
Remember 2nd run cinemas? Those cheap ticket Cinemas that played movies that were a few weeks or months old. I had one near me growing up where the tickets were 1$, and I practically lived there as a teenager. Movies back then had a much longer run, Jurassic Park, The Crow and Pulp Fiction were still screening in the cinemas a year after their release, even after the home video releases. That's because watching a VHS tape of a movie on a blurry square TV screen was vastly inferior to watching a film on a cinema screen. This remained the case until very recently, with affordable 4k tvs and projectors (my cinema actually advertises 4k projection- same as my living room)😂 These days it seems like a faff to go to the cinema especially when I know the movie will be streaming in 4 weeks, maybe less! But what those cheap cinemas offered that has been lost is a place to get away for a few hours when you don't want to be home but you also don't want to be social. And they instilled in me a love for movies because I would see anything at that price, and sometimes I would be surprised. That is something that Hollywood has lost.
@nathantaylor864315 күн бұрын
@@nobobynnobody We had a dollar theater about 30 minutes from where we lived. As teenagers me and my friends would go there quite often to watch multiple movies in one day. I remember that some movies would get a fairly sizable bump in the box office when they went to the dollar theater.
@ArcanePath36012 күн бұрын
They could learn a lot from Godzilla Minus One
@michaelwills192612 күн бұрын
People have had enough of their memories being ruined by modern trash. Avoid anything these people make.
@JesusChrist2000BC8 күн бұрын
It's because nobody wants to see a bad comedy movie disguised as an action movie that doesn't know what it wants to be. People just want actual action movies, masculine movies, high testosterone movies. Things like that. The Fall Guy clearly was trying to be a comedy movie and although I like comedy, I don't necessarily need a ton of comedy in my action movie maybe a little bit to lighten up the mood, but I think we all like the raid and John Wick for reasons, and the Fall Guy clearly was trying to be something that appealed to a weird demographic of people that wanted more comedy than action and I almost don't know anybody who's into those type of movies.
@pauljamesyoung-70Күн бұрын
You got it. After I saw the trailer my first thought was, "I have no idea what this is." It presented no hook.
@IMAMONGUS16 күн бұрын
I know that for my family, going to the theater has become an extravagance. We can't fork over $120 on just any ol' movie.
@davidcarp103417 күн бұрын
every movie that comes out is filled with absurdism, extreme CGI stunts and over the top humour, set pieces and props. I honestly think people want something more grounded in reality.
@aclark724317 күн бұрын
Very true. In the past, physics defying action only took place in movies that had an explanation for it, like The Matrix. Now, movies are filled with CGI generated action scene that defy the laws of physics and are completely unbelievable.
@Mereologist17 күн бұрын
Have you forgotten the entire era of action movies? I don't think anyone imagined those were 'realistic'.
@jackflash821817 күн бұрын
F*@k's sake... I just want a movie that doesn't seem like it was written by a 15 year old with head trauma & a political agenda. Is that so goddamn much to ask?
@c0hink17617 күн бұрын
this movie was a lot more grounded though
@TheAurians17 күн бұрын
@@jackflash8218 I have to say, even from some recent friends who watched The Fall Guy, they said it was "okay" but had a general "who asked for this" type of feeling. It's like Pixar/Disney's films, or recent blockbuster video games, where a lot of the characterization and plot and mechanics feel like ticking off boxes. AI Generative models can tick boxes. But when people hear a "Nolan" film, they know it's a film from a particular person's mind. A human mind, rather than that from a content/product machine. Maybe this will be the difference between AI art and human art. AI's can't recreate our minds (yet), nor can they recreate the time period, the *dynamic* states of the mind, the culture an artist is in that forces them to produce work. I remember Lucas saying that he was going through a divorce or something while writing Temple of Doom, and that he believes that influenced its tone in comparison the first Indi film. Maybe this is what is missing from today's media, and people can intuit this.
@ciaranmurren16 күн бұрын
40 year old tv show, 40 year old music, 40 year old actors. Can't think why the kids arent going to see this.
@piotrswat16916 күн бұрын
Yea they should hire the new dr who heard he is the hot new thing at Diddy’s mansion.
@ciaranmurren16 күн бұрын
@@piotrswat169 or Sydney Sweeney
@kingcosworth264316 күн бұрын
@@ciaranmurren As long as she shows off those gifts of hers
@spookrockcity16 күн бұрын
Kids went to see Barbie though... oof. Just make something really gay and effeminate and apparenly Gen Z will show up in droves lmfao.
@CMCAdvanced16 күн бұрын
@@spookrockcityyou know they made new Barbie movies for little girls in the last 40 years, right? I see what you're getting at, but that's an incorrect comparison. Barbie is still modern and relevant where The Fall Guy isn't
@MisterMonsieur16 күн бұрын
*... because nobody -- NOBODY -- wants to give Peddowood a dime or dollar anymore, even if the movie might be good. It's personal now.*
@AlexJaneson15 күн бұрын
Then why have other movies this year done well?
@MisterMonsieur14 күн бұрын
@@AlexJaneson Which movies?
@SpaceJawa16 күн бұрын
I feel like a core problem here is that the question "why did The Fall Guy flop" is being asked from a perspective where success is assumed. The best you get when explaining 'here's why it should have succeeded' are all generic answers at best, but nothing that explains "why this movie in particular should have succeeded that couldn't be copy+pasted onto another generic movie. Start of the summer movie season? Economy is bad and banning audiences from attending theaters broke the habit of seeing them. Ryan Gosling? Not the pull you think he is. 'Four Quadrant Movie'? It is rare that those actually succeed, more often than not those try to please everyone but instead please no one. Doesn't hate the audience, doesn't push 'THE MESSAGE'? As Platoon noted, that's not really a positive selling point, it's just what the baseline should be. The question here shouldn't be 'why did The Fall Guy flop?'. The question needs to be asked 'what specific reason should this movie in particular have had for succeeding?'.
@Chicken_Little_Syndrome17 күн бұрын
Fall Guy is a remake of the Lee Majors TV show.
@PewKittens17 күн бұрын
Can't wait for Mr. Majors to save Santa
@cromcccxvi378717 күн бұрын
No. It used the name, nothing else
@jacksprat23217 күн бұрын
@@cromcccxvi3787Ryan's Colt Seavers character name, the truck, the post-credit cameo by Lee Majors and Heather Thomas, sound effects from the TV show....yeah, it's a remake.
@jjc540716 күн бұрын
@@jacksprat232 it didn't need to be though did it? It could have been called The Stunt Double and had a different character's name for Gosling and it would have made no difference. Studios seem to think that remakes like this will appeal to older viewers but they don't. People who have fond memories of a show from decades before are unlikely to be attracted to a movie that is markedly different. It would likely make the movie more attractive to those potential viewers if they'd had Lee Majors appearing as Colt Seavers Sr in a couple of scenes with Gosling's character being his son.
@filteredjc465316 күн бұрын
Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors
@richardmcenroe258214 күн бұрын
Ooh, that's mean...
@franciscodanconia43246 күн бұрын
@@richardmcenroe2582it’s true. Lee had a tough Marlboro man look. Gosling, even in action roles, does not exude machismo. Charm sure, but not machismo. Honestly Gosling would have been better as Howie Munson with someone rougher playing Colt. But honestly I can’t think of a male actor in the 30-40 year old range that fits the bill anymore.
@samcoll32733 күн бұрын
Why did it flop? For my money, I'd say 'Ryan Gosling'. Can't stand that tosser, and I'm not paying money to see him fall. Delighted to hear his movie flopped, though. No fault of Emily Blunt, she's excellent.
@T-Bone_SSteak2 күн бұрын
@@samcoll3273 but he's you...
@StephenConantJohnson16 күн бұрын
Watched Fall Guy the other day and was very well entertained. No messaging, no politics, pleasant vibes overall. It's not quite Tropic Thunder level of satire but it's a very good effort at breaking the trend of heavy, message laden, "we are so serious" movies. Some gentle jabs at Hollywood and the culture there and, for me, one of the most satisfying scenes at the end when Gosling falls backward off a helicopter and makes a double fisted gesture as he falls away. I look forward to seeing that clipped and memed everywhere. I'd go see it again with a friend who hasn't seen it.
@CaptainReedo4015 күн бұрын
The trailer for “Fall Guy” killed the movie’s prospects: When Emily Blunt said she wanted to slap Gosling’s character and he responded that he would welcome that. Middle America is not ready for that in a mainstream movie.
@MagMar-kv9ne14 күн бұрын
LOL. Yeah, but that is the MESSAGE, hidden, but there.
@richardtracy82424 күн бұрын
Colt Seavers Simping Over an Obnoxious Girl Boss. That's the Whole Movie.
@user-wx8zv8zm3j16 күн бұрын
As someone who grew up with "The Fall Guy" I was excited when I heard there will be a movie. Then I saw the first trailer. And I was like "What?". A friend of mine thought the same. Then I watched the movie. And it is not "The Fall Guy". Not one bit to put it very blunt. So I guess other fans of the original show weren't all to happy about the movie as well. And these fans were the first ones to watch the movie because there are fans already. And all they got was "The Nice Guy". And another thought: Maybe a lot of men didn't go to watch the movie because of Ryan Gosling and his involvement in the Barbie movie. Maybe they were/are thinking Ryan Gosling is doing Ken again in "The Fall Guy". And he did (to a certain degree).
@jjc540716 күн бұрын
Yep, no reason for the film to be in anyway connected to the old TV show. It was only a few trivial elements they co-opted, so why not just drop those and call it something else?
@zachbrins0015 күн бұрын
They completely changed the background for “Colt”’s character, if he should even be called that. Lee Majors’ take on the character of Colt was well-seasoned, witty, adaptable, and resourceful. Gosling, whether of his own volition or the writers, comes across as incompetent, rather dim, and out-of-his-depth.
@Evom77715 күн бұрын
The trailer turned me off to it when I saw a woman basically telling Gosling's character something along the lines of how nobody will remember the stuntman. Really? You just said this to a guy played by Ryan Gosling who still retains his looks. They want to have Colt's character come off as an everyman, and yet they cast Gosling to play him. 🙄 (Maybe if we were drinking the bong water that might fly) How out of touch is the production to not only leave that line in, but to put it in the trailer?
@tla_studios15 күн бұрын
Most of this spot on. I think Gosling has all of the acting capability to be the Fall Guy, but instead they didn't make that. It was masculine Ken, not his fault, but go look at Burt Reynolds in Hooper and tell me how cool THAT guy was as a stuntman, and how silly this character was. He wasn't deciding to be daring, he was forced to....meh. Not the Fall Guy.
@MagMar-kv9ne14 күн бұрын
@@zachbrins00 Like all the white men are depicted in Hollywood nowadays.
@BrockLanders17 күн бұрын
The original Fall Guy (Lee Majors) was a tough guy/ man’s man. I didn’t understand them casting Gosling in this role being that he’s the same guy who played Ken in a Barbie movie, so he’s basically a pretty-boy type. I think someone like Alan Ritchson or Tom Hardy would have been much closer to the original character.
@paulibaer_20616 күн бұрын
Alan Rickman would need to return from the dead for that first
@John_B52_HEMI16 күн бұрын
I'd cast Tom Hardy over Pink Ken and Jack Reacher. Tom is by far the most talented.
@babychuma115 күн бұрын
Lee has a cameo in it!
@robertmaier535914 күн бұрын
@@paulibaer_206 He said Alan Ritchson not Alan Rickman.
@kamizumoku14 күн бұрын
Kurt Russell could do that 20 years ago.
@chuckliquor366315 күн бұрын
I think people are much more interested in watching the hollywood trainwreck rather than the movies themselves.
@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv15 күн бұрын
For this film to flop, a few factors have come together: 1-Ticket prices are too high for most 2-Streaming has become so popular and mainstream that it is an easier alternative for most. 3-As Little Platoon pointed out, blockbuster films dominated previous years, but smaller films did not. Now we have almost no blockbusters, the lack of money the smaller films make is more transparent. 4-There is still a cost of living crisis for some. Entertainment is the first thing to be cut out of any income. 5-the advertising was weak. I heard of the film but I thought it was coming out in the latter half of the year, not now. 6-Hollywood Studios destroyed the Movie-Star. They made sure individual actors or actresses no longer had the power to carry a film. And now films are suffering for it.
@AlexJaneson15 күн бұрын
When do you think that Hollywood destroyed the movie star? The 2000s?
@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv14 күн бұрын
@@AlexJaneson I want to say no...but considering the franchises that rose in that decade, I would say so. The Star Wars Prequels, Harry Potter, Sam Raimi's Spiderman, even Lord of the Rings-people did not go to see them because of the actors and actresses. And when Studios realised they could get away with millions without a big star, just a recognisable name, that was it. At the very least the 2000's laid the foundations. Then the 2010's came along and that was the death-knell.
@AlexJaneson14 күн бұрын
@@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv Yup, and now they’re in a pickle since the franchises aren’t doing as well as they were in the past two decades, and they haven’t developed any movie stars younger than 50.
@azaelandy0417 күн бұрын
1: movies have too much competition today (KZfaq, TikTok laziness, ect) 2: we’ve been trained to just wait for movies to get on streaming services 3: it might be just me, I didn’t even know the movie was coming out 😂
@parzavaal533515 күн бұрын
I've never seen a single ad for this movie.
@Globalo4517 күн бұрын
I also blame Netflix for The fall guy failure. Netflix has completely turned these types of films into “steaming” movies. Audience can’t see them has anything else. People saying Hollywood is dead….a bit exaggerated, it’s these movies that dead on the big screen
@niallrussell718417 күн бұрын
There have been a lot of *steaming* movies in the last few years! 😏
@liamphibia17 күн бұрын
Gary from Nerdrotic keeps talking about it.
@langdons284817 күн бұрын
Freudian slip there with the "steaming" comment - or "A" level trolling.
@Osprey85017 күн бұрын
Good point. That's what this looks like, a generic action comedy along the lines of what Netflix has been churning out for the last 5 years, and it's hard to justify paying to see in the theater what you're now used to seeing at no extra cost at home.
@kreese-yi2nb17 күн бұрын
Netflix, Disney and Warner broke movie theaters together.
@TheFourthWinchester12 күн бұрын
Ryan Gosling has never Been a movie star though the studios have tried their hardest. Time to bring someone new to the industry who has a backbone and charisma unlike most Hollywood actors today.
@cjbevan270416 күн бұрын
George is right; there is a general loss of confidence; the film/tv makers need to win the audience back.
@fanshaw16 күн бұрын
There's a perfect storm: The film-writing is terrible. Politics has invaded everything so now we've become hyper-aware of any hint of "the message." Hollywood has repeatedly told men how much they hate them. The films show their disdain for men which makes movie-dates not something men will organise. Many people now despise the media for many non-media issues, because of the way the industry behaves. Video games are massive and women are amused by social media/casual games so that they are never faced with looking for something to do. The political divide between male and female teens is destroying dating. Home TVs have are huge and home sound systems can shake the floors, providing cinema experiences at home. Cinemas have been destroyed by lockdowns. Lockdowns have trained people to stay home. Studio streaming services lead to expectations that big-screen films are just a few months away from cinema releases. Inflation has made people poor. Bingeing numbs people to excitement around video. KZfaqrs are providing excellent entertainment. Budgets are so large that making a profit is difficult.
@franciscodanconia43246 күн бұрын
The quick releases to streaming have always puzzled me. Back in the early days of VHS you wouldn’t get a release of Commando at your local rental store within a month or two of it’s premier, so you knew you had to see it in the theater or wait for a very long time. Streaming releases should be held at least 3-6 months from the time a movie exits the theater. But I guess the medias main goal now is to build their streaming revenue. I know it’s a big focus at Warner-Discovery.
@jimmyv317017 күн бұрын
It flopped because people just aren't worried about movies right now. The economy is tanking and the world is in turmoil. Even when people do have the money and time, there's a million different things you can do with that time and money now. Movies have to compete with streaming (themselves), video games etc. The pie is getting smaller.
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
Actually it's the exact OPPOSITE. The majority of people see movies to escape their everyday turmoil as shown by Barbenheimer's gigantic success.
@RenlangRen17 күн бұрын
The thing is half the movies today are lectures about how bad the audience is, and not fun escapism.
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
@@RenlangRen I suggest taking a break from The Drinker's videos. 🦜
@kicknowledgesmith860817 күн бұрын
Half? Not true at all
@pauperslament346717 күн бұрын
The movies are shite. Plain and simple.
@Brentisimo16 күн бұрын
A movie about a fit simp who takes punches for m’lady when he isn’t sobbing/pining for her in his car. It shouldn’t be a surprise that the movie is failing.
@SGTDave14 күн бұрын
Why'd it flop? No one wants their favorite childhood TV shows reinvented for "modern audiences." C'mon man, that's one of your catch phrases. The premise of the TV show was simple, Hollywood stuntman leverages his skills to moonlight as a bounty hunter. Cool truck, hot sidekick, that's all it needs to be.
@ilikepeanuts739617 күн бұрын
Inflation and Taxes have made pirates of us all
@blshouse17 күн бұрын
I would like this comment, but I don't want to be on (another) watchlist. Oh, I probably shouldn't hit the reply button on this either.
@RenlangRen17 күн бұрын
Just be happily surprised that utube didn’t shadow ban or outright delete your post.
@Coconut-21917 күн бұрын
Yep, market purchasing power. Although I'm sure the nearly across-the-board dive in product quality certainly isn't doing them any favors either.
@aaronreeve141416 күн бұрын
Yo ho ho, we took a bite of Gum-Gum.
@ronburgundy317215 күн бұрын
Inflation affects those of us with lower income
@aidanlynn17 күн бұрын
The 90s would have been the perfect time to make a Fall Guy film. Enough time would have passed for fans of the show to still remember it and it would fit perfectly into the over the top 90s action scene. Maybe that’s what happened, somebody had this script lying in a drawer for 30 years?
@mhitson748317 күн бұрын
I believe that is the case
@NathanCassidy72117 күн бұрын
Possible. There's a lot of scripts like that right now.
@ronwoodhouse289616 күн бұрын
You could not make it in the 90s without it being steeped in irony. Think The Brady Bunch Movie.
@davidgantenbein936216 күн бұрын
Not more like the early 00s? That’s when Three Angels for Charlie happened and was quite successful.
@CMCAdvanced16 күн бұрын
@@ronwoodhouse2896that would be amazing
@funonoldwheels715011 күн бұрын
Certainly for my generation, "the fall guy" was an eighties tv series. Whether it is or not, this thing reeks of remake, and we are done with those. That's why it flopped. We also find Ryan Gosling tedious.
@chrisenglehart15 күн бұрын
If you go to a burger joint and 9 times out of 10 you get a bad burger, you stop going to that place.
@MerrimanDevonshire17 күн бұрын
The "CHiPs" remake about a decade ago should have been warning about how deep the T.V. I.P. barrel really was.
@eeddieedwards389017 күн бұрын
They are going to cast Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in a reboot and call it "Chocolate CHiPs".
@themittonmethod124317 күн бұрын
Same could be said for the 2006 "Miami Vice" remake film... should have been left in the drawer or burned the script before it got made. Cheers!
@motherurck754217 күн бұрын
@@themittonmethod1243Hey, the Miami Vice movie was good. Rewatched it recently, and it still holds up.
@qui-gonrick700217 күн бұрын
Yeah, but the CHIPS movie sucked.
@jackflash821817 күн бұрын
I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they try to make a movie reboot of a 50 year old tv show that got cancelled halfway through it's first season... cuz you know that's not far off. 😂😭😂😭😂😭
@chrisjherman17 күн бұрын
This movie isn't an original IP. It's based on a five season TV series from the 80s.
@headp313 күн бұрын
It was the fact that with the 2 trailers I saw they were on opposite ends of the ESG DEI spectrum. And they led with the trailer that made it look like the typical "Waman" in charge and great, man beneath her, and yet he treats her like she is everything while being treated like crap back from her. So it instantly made me go "nope clearly not for me". Then the second trailer came out and it seemed like something 15 years ago might have been worth watching for dumb fun. But when you combine the 2 trailers together who knows what they movie actually is and we are all done with the bait and switch. So no one watched cause no one knew what it was.
@WinstonSmithGPTКүн бұрын
EXACTLY. The whole MOVIE was like this. Popcorn action crime caper poorly attached to a romcom written by a blue hair softly stroking her cooch while banging out Ryan Gosling fanfic.
@diemes546315 күн бұрын
Who would've thought a movie about a stuntman based on a tv show from the 80s no one under 40 remembers wouldn't make the 300-450 million needed to turn a profit? I'm shocked! /s
@A1Frizz17 күн бұрын
The fall guy isn't original if its based on the TV series from the 80's.
@Art-is-craft17 күн бұрын
Original in that it is not part of a franchise.
@oessh961117 күн бұрын
@@Art-is-craftthat’s the problem just make a new movie that hasn’t been made before. It’s not that hard 😂
@Art-is-craft17 күн бұрын
@@oessh9611 A Star is Born in 1954 was a remake of an older movie. As was Scare face. The problem is not that the fall guy was a 40 year old tv show but more to do with the fact cinema is dead and Hollywood is finished. We are watching the last days of cinema.
@davebarrowcliffe128917 күн бұрын
The lyrics to the original TV show are a podcast in themselves... Check it out! 😂😂😂
@ffs615817 күн бұрын
Everyone's broke, not risking $40 on something that has 80/20 chance of making me mad.
@ronburgundy317215 күн бұрын
Much to hollywoods detriment you can always go back to the classics
@jazzdub495815 күн бұрын
lol or the product is just crap nowadays.
@Lotsielots14 күн бұрын
Just out of interest, what is just the price alone of a prebooked movie at a quiet time of day? Because I can't believe Americans have to pay $40 for a ticket alone! Who would spend even close to that?
@docbryant11 күн бұрын
Fall Guy was an old TV show staring Lee Majors and Heather Thomas. And people aren't going to movies good or bad anymore, because we just don't care. Hollywood is dead, and we have books.
@ncander646 күн бұрын
Yes, as someone else pointed out above is that this flick is a reboot of a fairly to better 1980’s TV show. It starred Lee Majors maybe should’ve stuck with show’s premise rather than rewrite.
@Cannonfodder061716 күн бұрын
It's simple, people now expect bait and switch. We wait for people we trust to tell us if it's good or not.
@CMSixSeven17 күн бұрын
Besides actually good films, what we want is to not spend $40 for 1 ticket, a small drink, and a small popcorn.
@spacemanspud707317 күн бұрын
Do you live in a city? Everyones talking about these super prices but my small-ish city is still at 10 bucks a pop
@commotiocordis103717 күн бұрын
@@spacemanspud7073 My small-ish town that is NOT the case. Also all the cheap theatres closed so you have to drive further to pay more at the remaining theatre. Why? It's cheaper and nicer to wait for it to come to blu-ray or streaming. I can pause it, eat whatever I want drink however much I want without having to worry about driving afterwards. And that's before you take into account the horrific woke content and nonsense in most movies. Just because someone on the internet swears it isn't woke means nothing, been duped too many times. They've really dug themselves a hole, even the idea of "but if you don't support them, there'll be no new content!" Who cares? The new content blows, I mostly watch old stuff anyways which, thankfully, much like books, there's a DEEP back catalogue to mine at this point.
@sick91117 күн бұрын
Don't buy popcorn and soda the
@banhammer390417 күн бұрын
Smuggle in a flask full of moonshine for a better experience.
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
@@spacemanspud7073 I agree. The cost aspect is being exaggerated a bit. There are some places for sure in Manhattan or San Francisco that are that expensive, but for most of the rest of the country (including major cities) is about $12 to $20 per ticket. The high side of that is still a bit much, so it does eliminate viewing films on a whim.
@trevoranderson895815 күн бұрын
You know Rob is the man, when he speaks there is no interruption.
@MrPGC13714 күн бұрын
If I had to hazard a guess as to why the movie flopped, it's probably because when the average moviegoer hears the title "The Fall Guy" they immediately think of the old '80s TV show & think, "Oh, it's just another dumb remake. Pass..." People are tired of remakes, reboots & re-imaginings. They're tired of warmed-over old leftovers, regardless of who's starring in them (since, as discussed, "stars" as such don't really seem to matter that much anymore anyway) and want something _new._
@sceard901917 күн бұрын
Did you know that it’s not an original IP, but based on an old TV show?
@Knirin16 күн бұрын
Mid 80s action shows apparently don’t have a lot of staying power for some reason. Mid 80s action cartoons do though.
@macmcleod118817 күн бұрын
Excessive advertising and loss of classical tv networks have killed the studio's ability to advertise movies. I hadn't even *heard* of this movie. Probably because I mute and look away from any advertisements because there are so many that they got on my last nerve. Five advertisements for 11 minutes of content is obscene. It's gone beyond "paying the bills" to "we can occupy 89% of their visible field before they have seizures".
@docsavage864017 күн бұрын
I only heard of it because this channel mentioned it a week or two ago. Terrible marketing.
@Rotom047917 күн бұрын
Sounds like you just need to adapt
@donkeysaurusrex788117 күн бұрын
I saw a ton of commercials for it on KZfaq. Looks great.
@randomcharacter650117 күн бұрын
@@Rotom0479No. Companies that have products to sell need to adapt. Consumers have no responsibility to purchase a product over any other and modern corporations seem to have forgotten this. Edit: On the chance you meant "adapt" to mean just block ads I totally agree lol.
@Skitdora201017 күн бұрын
@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I saw them too, thought it looked dumb.
@normanszymanski509515 күн бұрын
Did no one here ever see the Fall Guy show with Lee Majors and Heather Thomas? Mr. Burnett, not even you?
@Mulletmanalive14 күн бұрын
Honestly, as someone on near minimum wage and not a huge number of rid hours at that, I’m basically waiting for the cinemas to say “screw it”, get inexpensive licenses in and give me a £5 or cheaper showing of something they selected on purpose. I don’t care if it’s black and white or public domain at this point, I just want to be able to afford to go without risk of coming out angry that my treat for the week was not only poop but purposefully so.
@jaybooze546216 күн бұрын
No one has any expectation of any movie to be good. They've given up.
@tla_studios15 күн бұрын
They've put the industry on mute. How many times can they get you excited about an IP you liked and they destroy it until people have NO interest even getting excited about it. "IP Mining" - Bob Iger
@somiariopusunju17417 күн бұрын
The fall guy flopped because it’s an above average movie at best, Hollywood has completely destroyed any goodwill we had toward them, and movies are so expensive now that if we’re going to pay money to see your movie, it better be good.
@waynegoodman33453 күн бұрын
Most people probably won't remember the old TV series from the 1980s.
@TheHilltopPillbox11 күн бұрын
Why did it fail? People can smell a gold-digging attempt from a mile away. Especially those from the 70's and 80's. They haven't done a good one yet. A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, Magnum Pl, Starsky and Hutch, Beverly Hillbillies, Baywatch, Brady Bunch, etc. We loved the originals because we got to know them over a few years. Trying to capture an audience that originally took years to capture, in a 90-minute film, is nearly impossible. You cannot avoid the comparisons. Plus, when the TV shows were on, the humour wasn't completely based on sex, which most remakes are. Pathetic, low-hanging fruit, and Gex X demands better.
@ElevenEvilExes17 күн бұрын
i can literally get the UK blu-ray of any new movie for the price of a movie ticket. i just have to wait a few weeks after the movie's theatrical release, which is not a problem. then i own the movie, i can watch it in my home cinema as many times as i want, without any risk of assholes ruining it for me, i can pause to go pee or get more snacks or beverages at supermarket prices, i can have my dog next to me on the sofa, i don't have to drive anywhere or wait in line... so i've basically stopped going to the cinema. not because i don't value movies, but quite the opposite. i value movies so much that i don't want them ruined by morons in the cinema anymore.
@Rotom047917 күн бұрын
Going to the cinema is a part of the experience though
@IronCriterion17 күн бұрын
That's just depressing.
@wesbrannick826917 күн бұрын
@Rotom0479 used to be. Until people became overwhelmingly rude or just annoying. The last movie I saw in theaters was Deadpool and it was a terrible experience. Ryan Reynolds could say the word "the" and everyone would lose their minds laughing.
@Rotom047917 күн бұрын
@@wesbrannick8269 Well, you'll just have to put up with them then.
@marie4peace17 күн бұрын
I agree 💯 percent the public space is no longer safe or fun
@jorgamund0717 күн бұрын
It's a "Hollywood movie about making movies", which comes out of Hollywood about once a decade, and rarely succeeds. Not because they're bad or badly made, but it's only relatable to the tiny group of who make movies. Sometimes they do OK, but they're not blockbusters and shouldn't be treated like one. The only notable exception was Tropic Thunder, and that was a hero-less movie that ruthlessly eviscerated every aspect of Hollywood. It went so hard on the satire, it dodged the usual "honest guy in the middle of craziness" the genre usually employs.
@AlexJaneson15 күн бұрын
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood did well too
@richtea61516 күн бұрын
A film being 'not a shit as usual' is not reason to go see it.
@joeblack387815 күн бұрын
What I want, as a consumer, is a movie that has a good plot and entertains me for 90 to 120 minutes. There is an added bonus if it challenges me to think about what it was all about. Resonance… I guess. I’m burnt out with all the cgi/explosions/shallow plots/hollow acting. The Thing is a great example - To this day… I still think and ask whether Childs was it at the end. Nowadays, everything is canned and forgettable. Why waste money on something forgettable?
@kevinpike445917 күн бұрын
It's simple. With the cost of tickets these days, if your interested in going to see a film you choose the One you want to see that month. You can't afford to go and see a movie every week anymore.
@banhammer390417 күн бұрын
Every month? More like a handful every decade.
@Kwolfx17 күн бұрын
Totally on point. A couple of days ago I was in Los Angeles for a funeral and the person most affected by this said to me afterwards, “I need to get away for a few hours, forget about about everything for a while.” So I said, “Why not catch a movie, I’ll pay.” So I got out my phone and asked my cousin what he wanted to see. Dune 2 was still playing and he told me he hadn’t seen it and I said going to great movie that takes place on another planet is a perfect almost 3 hour distraction. I paid for two seats for a matinée, and the discount rate for a weekday was $16 a person and to get popcorn and a soda for 1 person was another $21 or $22. With prices like that a movie has to be a special event for me to go see it. If I hadn’t been doing a good deed by taking my cousin to a movie, I wouldn’t have paid those prices to see anything new, like The Fall Guy. The trailer for it looked very generic to me.
@KissellMissile17 күн бұрын
@@Kwolfx Gotta get out of L.A.
@kevinpike445916 күн бұрын
@@Kwolfxboy your popcorn is expensive. It's not where near that much here in the UK. Although when i do go to see a film, I don't bother with the drinks and popcorn. Just the movie tickets.
@Kwolfx16 күн бұрын
@@kevinpike4459 - I didn't buy the popcorn, I was just checking prices. Hot dogs and chips cost $20, nachos cost $16 and a Coke or other soft drink by itself was $10 as were boxes and bags of various types of candy. The only discount was the theater validated my parking which saved me a great deal as it would have cost $10.70 per hour before 4pm and $2.70 an hour after 4 pm. This was at the Regal Sherman Oaks Galleria in Sherman Oaks, California. So, at least I didn't have to pay for parking.
@markschreiber505415 күн бұрын
Fall Guy without Heather Thomas? That’s where the conversation needs to begin and end.
@andrewh25938 күн бұрын
Thank you Robert. Dead Reckoning was awful. As someone who loved Fallout, DR was a slap in the face that assumed its audience had a room temperature IQ.
@Jonathan_Collins17 күн бұрын
It sucks that we are putting SO MUCH pressure on movies like 'The Fall Guy' and 'Challengers' to be hits but... this is where we are now.
@Robyamdam17 күн бұрын
did you not listen to what they said in the intro? It's being released at the beginning of movie season
@JustTooDamnHonest17 күн бұрын
The reason why is Hollywood continuously burn us and has the nerve to call us the racists, sexists and phobias. TFG is a Hollywood film just like Challengers and when we go to see it then we are basically giving Hollywood more money to call us morons and then they see the success and then they infect it and destroy it and laugh as we see something that we like get violated by Hollywood elites.
@blshouse17 күн бұрын
Opposite though. It sucks that there isn't enough pressure on movies like all of them, to be hits. Otherwise why would I bother opening my wallet in the first place?
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
@@Robyamdam Plenty of movies don't do that great at the beginning of movie season. That isn't some magic time or else every movie would release then.
@jazzdub495814 күн бұрын
i couldn't give a shit about films today, Hollywood wanted me to go, so i'm gone with my dollars.
@deckard375516 күн бұрын
When you're more likely to get disappointed by watching new movies, you just stop going. I just collect old movies now and when there is a good film once in a while I pick it up a lot later down the line when the general impression is locked in stone.
@TheVagolfer14 күн бұрын
When you make a nostalgic based movie, make sure there is a nostalgic audience out there to watch it. The over 50 crowd that would remember the original TV show does not go to the movies anymore.
@red9delta87715 күн бұрын
Part of the problem for me, was that the preview teaser gave away the the entire plot completely. It was like a 90 second synopsis of the entire movie, including the fact that the hero and the femme fatale get together at the end of the movie. It was a live action wikipedia article. I watched the trailer and felt "Well, I know what happens, now I don't need to spend $45 dollars to go see in it a theatre with potentially rude audience."
@jtluns917 күн бұрын
I think it’s less about the movies being made and more about people don’t have money to go to the movies anymore. Going out to a movie is almost a luxury now with 3 years of crazy inflation
@nuggetsnicole485116 күн бұрын
💯💯 who wants to pay all that money for a bad movie
@cinemacola639816 күн бұрын
I think this is the biggest reason out of everything mentioned. You can get a great TV for the price of one trip out to the theater, so streaming is better for most people and more affordable.
@REELWORKS1292317 күн бұрын
I saw the fall guy in theaters with friends and loved it a lot. I’m real sad it flopped, I thought it was great :/
@donkeysaurusrex788117 күн бұрын
It hasn’t flopped yet. It seems just about everyone who has seen it liked it. It could have legs if the studio doesn’t yank it for streaming next week.
@wesbrannick826917 күн бұрын
I'm glad you loved it. This is one movie I'm actually excited to see but am just waiting for it to hit streaming.
@Paulin-pw5jx17 күн бұрын
It was great fun people are just ridiculous they will go see Godzilla vs Kong but shit on this movie
@Mereologist17 күн бұрын
Some people have become so accustomed to wokeness that they don't even notice it any more. I'm sure such people will be deeply confused why everyone else thinks it's terrible.
@confitao17 күн бұрын
Loved it, just saw it today. It ain’t amazing but serves the purpose and it is just good old fun, exactly what I wanted and needed.
@michelehamilton96114 күн бұрын
The biggest issue is the film is just basic, not special. I was going to go with a friend and when their schedule changed I thought “is this worth heading out for without friends” and answered no.
@Andrew-po8nt15 күн бұрын
It looked like a direct-to-streaming movie, most people want spectacles and huge cinematic experiences now when going to the theater, and since movies only stay in the theater for 1-2 months now most people can just wait until it gets released on a streaming service and not have to pay so much. Convenience has killed the movie industry in more ways than just mediocre films.
@juncando17 күн бұрын
Next. Buck Rogers and the Bionic Strong Female Character in the 23rd Century.
@rog672517 күн бұрын
If Disney get's the rights they'll probably make him have a love affair with twiki
@CJRoberts881217 күн бұрын
They already redid "The Bionic Woman" on TV a few years back. One season.
@BumfluffAddlepate17 күн бұрын
@@CJRoberts8812 Since when has that ever stopped the corpse-rapers in Hollywood from brutalizing an existing IP?
@alexedwards650917 күн бұрын
Maybe peoples faith in movies has been ruined and they think "Why pay to watch a movie when it could be made by ideologues that hate me?" I've recently started using my prime video account. I look at the date the movie was produced and if it is recent, I give it a miss
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
Yep, I rarely watch anything post 2016 unless it is something from Scandinavia,, Japan or Korea.
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
You win dummest system for choosing movies award. 😆
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
@@greggibson33 Why? Even Chris Stuckman has pointed out the studios started pressuring writers to insert "topical" themes and callouts in their scripts. This started about 2016 (for obvious reasons).
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
@@jeffhartley7548 Sorry my post was for main post. Korea has become a power in world cinema.
@Coconut-21917 күн бұрын
@@greggibson33 Utter non-argument + misspelling + emoji use; watch out everybody we've got a real intellectual giant over here...
@Babylon198515 күн бұрын
The marketing for the movie was horrible.The few ads I did see for this movie made no sense and gave me no idea if this was a movie I'd be interested in. What's it about? What genre? If a movie can't convey it's identity in a trailer it probably doesn't have one
@paradigm_conjecture14 күн бұрын
My thoughts, exactly. I wanted the movie to do well to show the studios we don’t want an agenda, but I wasn’t compelled to go see it myself. It’s not enough to not push a message. We need good films.
@alvaroedwardolarteoovalle215317 күн бұрын
Still remember Lee Majors and his 4x4 truck....that could do anything for his time.........I got good memories from that
@raxacoricofallapatorius848417 күн бұрын
how do these guys NOT know that The Fall Guy was a tv show from the 80's? It was quite popular. Wow ... they did zero research. This sours their future shows IMO.
@jeffhartley754817 күн бұрын
Agreed. This panel is really just mainly focused on Disney offerings i.e. Marvel and Star Wars and their knowledge is very weak outside of that area.
@greggibson3317 күн бұрын
@@jeffhartley7548His videos are like watching a bunch of old ladies complaining about everything. WTF
@Goro_Maj1ma17 күн бұрын
🥱 tv show was shit that's why. And it was hardly popular. Hard to do research on such a shitty show. 🥱
@aaronreeve141416 күн бұрын
Literally the first sentence of the Wikipedia article says that it’s based on a TV show…
@harambe513116 күн бұрын
Only 70 year olds know it was show.
@DaveTimperley16 күн бұрын
I've got another theory. People are sick of movies about people who make movies. This isn't a new thing for me. I never liked 'the player', I recently got ten minutes into 'Get Shorty' and said 'nup'. Tarentinos last film bored me to death. I never saw the origonal 'Fall Guy' but I don't remember him ever actually doing any stunt work in a film???
@TheMeefiveКүн бұрын
The problem with the Fall Guy is encapsulised in the song. First they waited for the end credits to play the song and reveal the important cameo. And then they didn't sing the whole song. They left out lyrics like "I'm not the kindto kiss and tell but I've been see with Farrah" and "I might jump an open drawbridge or Tarzan from a vine. Cause I'm the unknown stuntman who makes Eastwood look so fine." Now I get why they left out those lyrics Because they are dated references to the stars of the time of the show, some of whom are dead. But that's also how the song shows the problem with the movie. It's not the same. The Fall Guy wasn't a love sick puppy. Something was missing.
@sethfg17 күн бұрын
If they had used the original theme song from the tv show it might have got a little more love. That’s what I remember most from the show as a kid.
@JohnEllis-qo7gl17 күн бұрын
They do use it.
@dariusewing696216 күн бұрын
@@JohnEllis-qo7gl NOT IN THE PREVIEW
@killroy201416 күн бұрын
@@JohnEllis-qo7gl it´s not the "original theme song" performed by Lee Majors tho
@WorldPeace2116 күн бұрын
The only actor mentioned in the original theme song who is still relevant is Clint Eastwood. Even then it makes no sense today because Ryan is too young to be a double for Clint.
@lindsay198917 күн бұрын
Tickets are too expensive to go see a meh action movie like this
@nobobynnobody15 күн бұрын
"Ryan Gosling is my favourite actor" said by nobody ever.
@EarthNeedsHeroes16 күн бұрын
Lots of good points on why Fall Guy as well as other films aren't doing well at the box office lately. 1. For me it's the economy. I just can't afford to go to the movies like I used to. I'd love to go see Fall Guy in the theater, but I just can't justify the cost right now. 2. Marketing is another one. I hardly watch TV anymore so I'm not seeing commercials, and when I'm online I do my best to block as many ads as possible. If it wasn't for watching Drinker, Nerdrotic, Film Threat, etc, I would barely know anything about this film. And I'm sure there are many more people like me who are ignoring as much advertisements as we can. Also the trend of showing too much of the movie, giving away the plot, in the trailers; it's not giving us a reason to leave the house and pay more money to see it. 3. Little Platoon said that a movie not having "The Message" should not be the standard, and he is correct. But yet, here we are! It shouldn't be that way but it is. Hollywood made this problem and they are going to have to dig themselves out of it if they don't want to go bankrupt. It will take time to rebuild trust with the audience and unfortunately a few good movies will probably fail due to it.
@markandrews317717 күн бұрын
Drinker's review basically implied the film is yet another "check your brain at the door" movie. What the hell do we want?! How about movies with solid plot, likable, relatable characters, decent script, etc. Popcorn movies can be a nice diversion, but it seems every other movie that comes out (especially in the summer months) seems to be this type of movie. Also, I would add that for me there is an overabundance of CGI. Maybe it's my age (61) but as soon as I see an ad for these movies I'm immediately turned off. I believe many people, in similar ways, feel it's just not worth the money, and, yes, there are no real stars left.