vdubjetta02 exactly

You are a car guy indeed! 👍🏼

My 14 c7 z51 blew at 26k miles, still waiting 3 weeks out to get fixed under warranty. Never again will I buy this garbage. Tesla 100% from now on.

I'm a Porsche owner also. But I've said it more than once. The corvette is the best performance value on the market.

Thank you

You mean a 6 spd automatic. Because the A8 is great!

***** I wasn't suggesting it was an 8 spd automatic.

Frank Burns "minimal attention to comfort" I laughed at this statement because it is so untrue.

Frank Burns So people are hilarious because they like quality as apposed to harshness? Anyone who knows about engineering would choose the Porsche, but I agree about price vs performance. I'd rather have neither if I can't have the Porsche though, and that probably accounts for many many other people too.

+Frank Burns hilarious. drive an old Lotus elise or caterham then you know what has minimal comfort. A porsche 911 or a corvette is a real daily driver in comparision they have all the luxery equipment you need and real trunk. Corvette has a trunk with over 400l.

+MagicAyrtonforever The Corvette is cheaper and is is closer to a race car than a 911 Carrera. I have a Porsche GT3 that has been converted to a race/track car and I have realized that for half the money I could have a Corvette do the same thing. Me and my Brother In Law share the GT3 and we could have each had a Corvette fitted out for both of us. The thing about American cars is that they can be afforded by everyday people who work hard. I cannot say the same about Porsche, Ferrari or Audi and other European brands. The European equivalent of a Camaro would cost a fortune.

+bighands69 you get what you pay for. I suggest you read December car and driver that lisets all the problems with the c7. needed a new engine at 6000 miles, no big deal. lol

Couldn't agree more. That was Chevy's fault. Braindead decision. That C7 was made for people who aren't enthusiasts, but like the looks and how it feels on them. That's fine, but you don't bring a peashooter to a gun fight. What were they thinking?!

No Kidding..... Funny how he is saying "porsche has sooo many added on good'ys" At the tune of 60 Grand added on!........LOL...

koch Yeah, the options alone on the Porsche cost more than the entire C7 lol. I think GM really struck gold with this new 'vette.

Not sure how deviated stitching or yellow seat belts make the Porsche go faster. Porsche simply has a customisation programme where the Vette hasn't. You do not have to buy all that stuff to make the Porsche a complete car. All you need is the sport exhaust, and the PDK if you want it, done. What boggles my mind though is how anyone spending 60K on options did NOT option the Power Kit, which gives 30 more horses, among a few other things, e.g. sports exhaust... and then it hasn't even got a paintjob that costs extra :)

Baerchenization it doesn't. It just magically shrinks the size of the owner's sausage lol.

***** Thanks haha

I'd still have the Porsche because of the stigma you get from a Corvette

@@dragospahontu Of all the reasons to prefer one over the other, that probably has to be the worst. Buy a car for you, not for the anonymous nobodies on the sidewalk.

@@JETZcorp the Lexus LC500😍

On a side note, you should take a look at the spy shots of the New 991 GT3 RS, the wing on that thing is FUCKING MASSIVE.

***** the whole car is massive in comparison to older 911's

Motorsport Magazine's acceleration test proved the manual to be really slow.

Maad Dan It's only "really slow" if the driver sucks lol

***** Considering it's an actual slush box, I will agree. A dual clutch setup would be my preference.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can only get those wheels from the factory on a car that has the Z51 Package.

I'd still have the Porsche because of the stigma you get from a Corvette

LSG Drizzt Well, Vette's automatic is worse than the 7-speed manual. So the guy was right.

I feel like they assume every press can't drive like chris harris does. So give em a car that doesnt need a clutch replacement after some "reviewer" destroys it.

We don't even know if this vette has the Z51 package or not

frankth3frizz A lot of reviewers get manual version. That's what press cars are for.

Mohamad Al Yousuf Probably not. Since he kept mentioning it's a stock Vette.

lol his beard revealed him ^^

I did...

and at 8:04 he appears again :D O:)

How the hell could ANYONE miss Matt Farah?

"Dammit Bud and Bob. Dammit."- James May

It seems this vette does have the Z51 package, judging by the larger wheels that it has. Probably base 1LT with Z51 package. The just base 1LT has smaller and different design wheels.

***** Maybe. The Z51 3LT starts around 61800$.

i think he didnt use the manual transmission because the 911 isnt equipped with one they wanted to keep this apples oranges comparison as close as possible...........sigh vs comparing an elephant to a giraffe. dont get me wrong two light cars lots of usable power but mr boosted.........vs fr na V8 is and always will be apples to oranges to me even compairing the boss 302 vs a ss is apples to oranges to me..... and by the 911 isnt equipped with one i mean it has flippy paddles and not an actual old fashioned hand shifter nob. bah re watched the vid "i dont know why they gave it to us in automatic" it was what they were given i forsee a rematch possibly with a manual vette

andola jackson

andola jackson Maybe test the base 911 to a fully loaded Corvette? Because the price is apples to oranges too like Chris mentioned many times. I think the Z06 crorvette will be around the price of a slightly loaded 911.

It's hard to be that patient.

True, but you enjoy it more. I recently bought a $70K car for $25K. Had to wait few years to depreciate, but it is very low mileage. I love every minute of driving it.

Patience is very rewarding, so I give you props. I just meant that man people don't have it.

that's true but lets face it the unless you can really afford the Porsche, you would get the Corvette, because, remember the maintenance and parts costs on the Porsche will always be higher than on the vette.

***** What did you buy? I can't think of any car with an MSRP around $70M (LSA CTS-V, E92 M3, C63, C6 Z06) that is now priced around $25M unless it has 200M+ miles or has a salvage title that is worth owning. Please, point me to the fun, formerly-$70M cars that are now $25M.

Agreed, it would start to make sense if they were comparing a Z06 to a Cayman

During the era of this review that was entirely true, but now with the new mid-engine C8 that makes more power than the 992 911 Carrera S and offers as much if not more road-presence, I think more and more people are in-fact cross-shopping the two.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@tyler9703no people aren’t 😂. Porsche doesn’t focus on power like everyone else seems to do and a corvette just doesn’t and never will have the presence that a Porsche does. Not saying the vette isn’t a great car in its respective class, but it will never be on the same level as a Porsche.

If it's a normal automatic gearbox, I highly doubt that it can perform gear changes faster than a double-clutch

BerndDieBratwurst999 Well that's because you apparently don't know how to use google. www.motorauthority.com/news/1089778_gm-8-speed-in-corvette-z06-shifts-faster-than-porsche-pdk-heres-how I found that in 2 seconds, what's your excuse?

That's a pretty incredible claim by GM; but if they say it, I believe it.

Joe Blow i second that! sticking with my 981.

+Joe Blow and here we are 3 years later, I have a GT3 with a PDK, and 8spd is almost as bad... I was really hoping it would be good. But now they have the new 10spd maybe that will be good but in the end I will always go with a stick.

Did you ever get one

Corvettes should not even have automatic gearbox as an option

@@64fairlane305 Careful... you might hurt a C8 owners feelings. 😢

As far as I'm concerned, the Z51 package is a must when ordering a C7. There's no reason someone shouldn't get it.

I just bought a new z51 anxious to try it out, taking delivery in 4 days 😄

Z51 brakes are pictured .

I love the c7 Corvette and c6 also ❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Poler777 Thank you!

The videography is excellent, i wonder how the achieve it.

I believe you can only get those wheels in the video with the Z51 Package.

And what people don't know "That Aggression" works when trying to get a quick lap time as good as the Precision, It just depends on the skill level of the driver to tame and inspire confidence in controlling the throttle around the track.

Why does this base vette have the larger Z51 wheels?

***** You can specially order a base Sting Ray with Z51 style rims.

yeah until it got recalled. I really want one when i have the money. Should take about a year or two playing the stock market.

ravenwda007 Good luck, have you had any success on the stock market before?

Name I'm only practicing on a virtual stock right now and I made over $1000 virtual money on Wednesday in a half our or so. If I play the whole day I could theoretically make $2000-$5000 a day if I play the right ones at the given time. My program finds em ;)

Nice.

chad haire your comments show how dumb you are, lol

There are an infinite amount of unnecessary options that Porsche offers. I'm a huge Porsche fan too, but there are only around 10 options that I'd even consider, and about 2 of them that I'd actually get. Get your pretty rims, performance exhaust, and honestly, unless you want an auto, that's all you need, and there's not a thing you'll miss. I said there are 10 options worth considering because there's stuff like the ceramic breaks that are only worth it if you track heavily, and for that price, why wouldn't you get a GT3?

Carbon Ceramics alone take up $10k of that space. PDK is 10k more IIRC. But 60k in Porsche options? 20-30k is easy...60k?=LOL You clicked boxes until your finger got sore lol

Young Professionals with a bit of cash who can't afford a 911 will go for a Cayman or a used 911. No one is going to substitute one for a Corvette.

Odd, the trackdays that I go seem to have many more 911's than corvettes.

ah, no. the "obscenely rich" as you put it have whole car collections, yachts, chateaux etc Even here in Australia where cars cost more than twice as much as they do in the US and UK, track days are dominated by 911s, F430s, Astons and the like. Anyone who applies themselves can afford a 911. Not to blow my own trumpet but I had my first (a 996) at 29. My best mate who is an electrician had one too.

Judging by the larger wheel this is the base 1LT with Z51. Prove me wrong.

By "Base Corvette", he meant the Corvette that is the lowest trim level. In other words, not a Grand Sport, Z06, etc.

yes. of course, base meaning the lowest trim corvette. not the z51 package. And lets not forget he loves porsche for good reasons that said the porsche is a very different driving experience with the engine in the back oppose to the weight in the front. For chris the cars response would feel just as twitchy as a person driving the 911 for the first time. And indeed one can visually see the vette is not as slip libral as the porsche, its really the diff as he points out. That said, im glad he points out very clearly the porsche is Far more money to the vette but overall what you get from the vette makes arguments pretty pointless. for the money your getting far more car than any arguments can justify. Lastly lets not forget factory tune always leaves room for the buyers to tweak and further improve. which is why the higher grade vettes perform so vastly better.

The C7 without the Z51 package is a "Base Corvette". A C7 with the Z51 package is still called a "Base Corvette". The Z51 package is just a sporty package. It doesn't elevated the C7 to a higher model level.

+Tim D i mean 911 looks way better

+Tim D porsche looks better

For sure!!!

Corvette looks better than the ordinary Porsche I see Porsches everyday

+David Aceituno I don't think so... Do you see a 993 GT2 everyday? Do you see a GT3 RS everyday? Does the Corvette look as good as those two cars? I don't think so man.... And also, Porsche wins on the history of the company.

If there's an American car whos exterior has changed as little as the 911 it's the Corvette. Basic changes over the years, but ever since '63 and the C2, its size and shape has remained pretty much unaltered. Whether or not it looks terrible, well that's a pure subjective thing. I love the 911 and that won't change. I think my 991 is the best looking to date. Only one I thought was a bit "meh" was the 996, but that was also a very polarizing time for Porsche.

Porsches have a timeless style, Corvettes age badly.

Ccleanerable They don't age, they just fall apart.

ABOlsen69666 I'm sorry but that must definitely be the most ignorant comment I've seen made about the corvette. C1 and C2 quite similar, but C3 changed quite a bit, and so did the C4 but the C5 wasn't much different from the C4. Then the C6 did change enough and the C7 is a complete revolution from any other Corvette. If any car has been constantly changing and evolving over the years it's the corvette.

That is my only gripe on porsches actually, they look butt ugly. You pay that much money for a car that looks like it has a swollen backbone. The new Boxster's actually look nice though, but the 911's look like hunchbacks. Just my opinion. I was never a fan of vettes, until this new c7 came out. Not only the exterior, but the interior looks at par if not better than porsche. Now I'm saving my pennies for the new z06.

The corvette is a better car than the cayman in my opinion...these cars are for speed and racing put the vette against the 911 the cayman and it beats it on the track for half the price!!!

Chris chose the 911 on purpose, to give the Vette fanboys the emotional satisfaction of being the underdog. If he had chosen the Cayman and the Cayman still destroyed the Vette, how do you think they would feel? lol

@@ErebosGR yes sure a 981 cayman s is slow af. Even the m2 is faster than the 2014 cayman s😂

True, but that would have no longer been a base Vette..

An american fanboy who don't know the difference between the cars and feeling realy butthurt because someone who is clearly pretty qualified to review these cars said something he didn't like? How sad. So, the 505 hp 'merican made plastic box beat the 400 hp 991 S by 0.5 of a second, on a track that absolutely favors high horsepowe cars. Not only that, the 991 Carrera S is a luxurious and nice car, that you can park everywhere without people laughing at you. It's a classic and a really nice driver. The Z28 is a stripped down street car made harsh and noisy for the track, and not in any way as comfy as the 991 will ever be. And, don't forget a few VERY important things. That car runs on Pirelli Trofeo R tires and is about 200 lbs. lighter, due to it being a stripped car by comparison to the 991. So let's recap. What did those top of the line track/street tires, the lighter weight, hard chassis, and extra 105 hp give you? 0.5 secs on a high speed track, a harsh ride with no aircon and tires that'll last for less than 5000k. Oh yes, the Z28 is a great comparison. It's apples and oranges. Power for power, put it up against the new GT3 which is cheaper than a specced Carrera S and has a more hardcore character like the Z28, and the Z28 will be absolutely oblitterated. Just put Trofeo R tires on the S, and the Z28 would be left for dead. Those tires are good for at least 7-8 secs over normal MPSS or PZero's, if not more on a long track like Nordschleife. Now as would be the correct comparison, put the Z06 and Z51 up against the Turbo S or even just the Turbo, and there's no competition. They won't stand a chance. Do you get a lot of car in the C7, yes you do, and if you had listened, he said he liked it. But comparing a stripped Camaro to a 991? Not in the same league, net even the same game. And to finish. Euro fanboy? So, why don't you take a look at all the crappy reviews comming from R&T and C&D? Those are borderline ridiculous. It's amazing they haven't been sued for slander. I'm a musclecar guy, who owns a '73 Trans Am and a 911, I know what is what and love both. You give musclecar guys a bad rep with statements like that.

ABOlsen69666 I read maybe three sentences of that bullshit, because I can tell from the length of it, the only person butt hurt is you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Neckbonekat Really. My guess is that you have a difficult time reading. You're most likely some little twirp who is a fan boy but who has zero experience with sportscars - that being muscle cars or euro cars. It seems like it annoys you that I picked your whole idiotic comment apart, bit by bit, and my guess is that you read the whole damn thing.

Neckbonekat Nope. You did. LMFAO! You have six vids of random cars, of which none are yours. Yup, that proves everything you know about cars, exactly squat. You're a fake, and you know it. Get lost pup.

ABOlsen69666 Sure, none of them are mine. LOL You're a sad little man.

They'd lose all of their creative freedom in advertising funded mode. They don't need television. Television doesn't need them.

I agree with you. Mr harris isnt as unbiased as those knobs from autocar. He gives every vehicle a chance to shine.

and dont forget about top gear uk the most bias of them all i love top gear uk but clarkson jokes are getting old but i will watch because of hammond and may

***** and dont forget about top gear uk the most bias of them all i love top gear uk but clarkson jokes are getting old but i will watch because of hammond and may