future62 i bet you didnt recognize that there are two different seats mounted...

Blame all the "influencers", I guess?

Agree

@@MartinIrwin I blame the increasingly low attention span of the internet, prompting the Michael Bay overproduction style taking over automotive media. Cars like this don't need jump cuts and drone shots.

I'm with you

.2 is really not that much better, it’s just more reliable engine, as far as performance goes, only those tracking them hard can really tell the small difference 👍

It's way better. More torque in the mid revs

@@genegade that is as one thing I noticed right from the start . I was a bit worried about the engine fire issue of the .1 but what really pushed me towards the .2 was the amount of glitchy things with the .1 . I had to replace both mufflers , not at the same time , because of malfunctioning sport exhaust , they broke the studs off of the resonating chamber between the mufflers , luckily under warranty , with towing that was 13k, I had a Solenoid go in the PDK and got an error message not to drive , another 6 hour tow to the nearest Porsche Dealer at the time , the engine lid locking mechanism failed , couldn’t get into the back to clean or add oil which I had to do several times between oil changes . It’s been 6 years but I know that I’m forgetting some other issues . After these repairs were done , I’d have to drive down with my wife ( 5 hours) and pick up my car . By the end , Porsche transported my car back to me to avoid the hassle of us picking it up . Im happy to report that the .2 has not had a single issue and is in my opinion a 15-20 % better car considering improved performance, upgrades to PDK etc . I put it back on the road in 4-6 weeks time !

Had a 991. 2 weissach, not a massive fan to be honest. Not enough top end power, had a Mclaren 720s before hand so I think that had spoilt it.

He IS a race car driver after all.

plus it isnt his car

agreed. its not quarter million though. Checked the website it is approx. 160K

Right?! I kept looking how close the guard rail was. Bravo to Chris.

He was a road driver before race. His ability to articulate whilst sliding perfectly is what gets me :)

He actually explains that he’s trying to view the car as a normal driver, if you listen to what he actually says leading up to that comment. There’s nothing normal about his driving skills! 😁

He's the best in English. Theres better German car journalists, Tim schricks one of them.

Tiff needell was cool too

@@thof8287 wrong.

My guess also, either Catalonia or Portugal! Nice road...

Thanks for that, will do! And you better to

Certainly doable, seeing as though these will be sub 100k in 2-3 years.

sub 100k? LOL shows how little you know.

Tyler Simeone True

and the GT4 being manual only

You are so right!

Or the gt3 touring?

He hears the inside whispers for sure

Sorry but a GT3 and really any 911 should be available with a manual. It doesn't matter if most people are to unskilled to drive a stick and choose the PDK, the manual should still be an option and just saying no, it's going to be PDK only is a shot in the foot to Porsche and a slap in the face to the tradition of what a 911 was and the people who have supported them.

+aguilpa1 Trust me, drive the new GT3 and your opinion will be transformed. The gearbox is THAT good.

I bought a cayman gts with the manual. It is awesome i love it when theirs no traffic, but in traffic, i hate to admit it, the clutch starts to feel heavy. i drove a dual clutch cayman and it was quick, quicker than a manual but the manual even at slower speeds is more fun than the pdk. the 6 speed gears and clutch are as smooth as butter, the best I've ever used, but the pdk is smooth as silk. that's the difference, so make your choice and live with it. have a good one, mates.

an electric blue one?

Jakob Pedersen I thought it was Sapphire Blue but I'm probably wrong...

Mike Fire If your plan succeeds, share it with me.

Mike Fire I WAS ABOUT TO COMMENT THE EXACT SAME COMMENT hahahaha

+Mike Fire That was my plan the whole time XD

Viper SRT 10 is also a good option. Not sure about reliability though. I'd still prefer the Porsche!

Mike Fire same here but I'm going to wait a little bit till the manual 991.2 gt3 comes out

It probably wasent him taking that bend because the camera went off him at the end. They do this a lot.

Arthur Banatine Chris can drive the sh** out of any car!

Arthur Banatine It was him, he has participated in numerous races and has proven he's got the skills necesarry for this kind of job.:)

Arthur Banatine Someone's an angry little boy.

Arthur Banatine Troll alert! Don't feed it! Serious though, CH has been INVITED to race a Jaguar at GOODWOOD. Just sayin'.

If you get caught doing that on tiny road or any roads in the UK, it's bye bye license and time for a restest when you get it back after at least 12 months!

Hypersonik a little drift once in a month in a lonley road... Nobody have to know hahaha

Hypersonik *if you get caught*

Furkan Özcan Do you know how much to?

They almost did that :)

Lol, that's for that

Oh yes :-)

not true..lambo has the best wheels

kubek555 the new huracan wheels look like crap...

kubek555 Glad to see you fellas debating using facts.

Zane Kelvinator 'rim beauty' is subjective, you can't bring in facts..

+SideWays8Productions FINALLY

Van Der gaurde I can see why it would, yea this car would be just as fun with the manual, but at that point you're just pissing away money for a cool wing and some fixed back seats. Don't forget, this car is mildly affordable, compared to what it's competing against, so price can become a factor to most 911 buyers, and dropping the extra dime for a GT3 just to have the performance of a GTS doesn't seem sensible to most people.

+SideWays8Productions if you think this has the same performance as a gts, it goes without saying that you have no clue. I work for Porsche, which is meaningless to you I know, but the gt3 is worlds ahead of a gts. I was a manual only guy when I came to the company but the pdk is so amazing that I now prefer it. Don't criticize based on Internet specs.

94nitemare First off I doubt you'd be saying you work for Porsche if you really did. It doesn't take manufacturer employment to learn more about these cars than the average leasing broker who drives these every day can. If we're going by credentials, I'm a sales broker in NYC...just about all of my 911 clients have become close friends of mine and own more than just 991's. Second, I never said the GTS had the same performance as the GT3. I was implying that giving the GT3 a manual transmission will tone it down to the GTS's level of performance, because whats the sense in having the extra HP and torque if you're still gunna be lifting off throttle to shift? Even with the cornering advantage the GT3 has over the GTS, you won't be able to use it to it's full potential if you're braking sooner and longer to rev match into a corner. Even if Sport mode rev matches for you on the manual, it'll still take longer to get back on throttle afterwards. The GTS is the fine line between the softer base model and the harder GT3's that offers both sharper performance, and a manual transmission. Because like I said before, if you want that engaging feeling, buy a Porsche that isn't designed to set records, because it's clear you're not designed to either.

***** not necessarily professionals, just people that understand that in order to outperform everyone else and set records and win races (which is what the GT3's are designed to do), you have to sacrifice sentimental aspects like a manual transmission. It doesn't take a professional race car driver to understand that lol

Tbh he shouldnt be proud of doing this on a public open road.

@@eduardosq99 exactly, he should be like Shmee150. Drive fast only in a straight line and never turn the traction control off. You must be fun at parties. FYI they have the whole crew there to monitor the situation or sometimes the roads are closed.

@@martintoman if you cant see whats wrong on drifting, racing and doing 170kph on an open public mountain road, you are brainless. In this case, the road was completely open.

The real issue with those who want a manual is that they want the challenge of changing gears themselves. No one who understands the technology would ever claim to be able to operate a manual transmission on par with a PDK or even close, but the challenge of trying has been taken away and that's a shame.

I've driven a lot of Porsches with a manual transmission and that's amazing too. Feels way better than the BMW manual transmissions that I'm used to.

beatsByZlaya Your comment shows that you totally don't understand. With a PDK you flick a command switch and a machine changes gears. It's not comparable at all.

pete g I have both a manual and a dual-clutch car in my family and you're right, dual-clutch doesn't compare to a real manual in any way. Sure, you may be choosing when the car shifts but you're not involved in the shifting process at all.

Sebastian Senna you want to get involved. go and buy a large truck.mine has twelve gears. you can get payed for getting involved and its SHIT!,

wow you like stand up comedian class comment type of guy. making money?

egon olzen sarcastic type of guy?

I thought that was the main reason he opted for the car with the clubsport package - onboard fire extinguisher :P

can't believe all that hassle happened! you couldn't have figured out the struggle he went through by watching the video. also great camera work by Andy P

What was the story?

@@vinaychauhan7936 they can’t leave us hanging like this it should be illegal!

It doesn't have a manual clutch, it's not a proper manual, end of story. The moment the car starts to assist you be it partially or totally into your shifting, it's an automatic, at least to us, purists.

You're right about the "loss" of a manually operated clutch, but to me this purist stuff is just silly. All race cars (like F1, Le Mans, etc) have paddle-shift, so - whatever. Btw, you can't be a purist and call the PDK an automatic; that's not very serious

Éric Théoret Purist isn't about speed, it's about feeling, driver involvement, and ultimately fun. PDK. DCT and all these are fast and efficient, nowhere nearly as fun, it's just a robot doing the job for you. I drove a F430 and a Gallardo to around 110MPH once, god was it boring without a clutch, even if the car had lots of torque and gave you that kick everytime it shifted (single clutch), it's boring because I wasn't the one doing it. Even if DCT are quicker, more efficient and never make fail to shift properly and quickly no matter how many times if shifts, it's boring because you're not responsible for it. It's as if while you're about to shift, someone comes and along saying: "hey man, let me do it for you, I'll shift quicker than you'll ever be able to do" If that dude existed, I'll be saying: "hey man, who cares? I'm the one driving, let me have the fun of doing it"

I can agree with that ;-)

sevenseasvoyager Right. My intention was to point out that the PDK (or Ferrari's F1 or VW's DSG…) has nothing to do with what is called an automatic gearbox in the US. You can use it just like a manual gearbox (only it's faster). But you're right that it's not completely manual neither.

10-4 did you know that the new 911 is going to have a manual trans.? Sounds like Porsche is listening to their customers...also, I'm not a badass, I used to be though. Safe travels diallow.

KAY

Only in Europe. The US cars didn't get the cage.

/DRIVE Bummer, what a rip off!!! Thanks for the quick reply. I was pouring over the Porsche USA site looking for it as an option or something. Great video BTW!

OnTrakRacing I believe the 997 gt3 had a no cost option to add the cage. I don't know about the 991.

+OnTrakRacing It's the "Clubsport" pack. A no-cost option in Porsche GT cars, usually.

Cut de Pie Fails You don't choose *not* to have it, you choose to have it. Stock they come standard, but the no-cost clubsport package adds what you mentioned. I know that's almost the same way of thinking about it, but for the sake of accuracy...

+woodshopart i think he meant "myself" as in "manually" hahah

woodshopart 😂😂😂

You still can go sideways. Under aggressive steering and throttle control, it locks to a standard system, letting you drift

Dennis Simons Yeah, upon later research I found that out. I have amassed quite a bit of disposable income to treat myself to a nice machine after 30 years in the aerospace biz, and the new 911 GT3 is definitely in my top 3 right now. I especially like the way they made it so that pulling back on both paddles at the same time is like putting the clutch in, and letting go is like dropping the clutch, where on other paddle shift cars as we know, doing so would just put the car into neutral. It's a shame there is no full manual option anymore, but at least a driver has that. And they finally fixed the stick so it behaves like the shifter on a true sequential 'box: Pull back for an upshift and push forward for a downshift.

1:13 - 1:30. Pay attention.

He's talking about the philosophy of what a gt3 should be and what it should represent. The gt3 is the ultimate expression of the 911 and should be the most exciting and involving. Some of that involvement is lost when you no longer have a manual. Solely having a pdk represents a massive shift in what the gt3 is (which was exclusively manual in its whole history), and he's not sure, as good as the pdk is, if it is right to exclude a manual.

SondeBeeches Porsche says that 80% of their GT3 customers use the cars on track. And the PDK beat the crap so much out of the manual version during development that they decided not to sell a manual - it just wouldn't be competitive, and it would miss the point of building a fast car, if even Porsche test drivers can't do a competitive lap with a manual GT3. So there, the manual gear box is dead. (personally, I have never driven an automatic even for 100 meters in over 20 years of driving, but I'd want this car with PDK anyway). The GT3 is the ultimate expression of performance, not the ultimate stronghold of the manual gear box... some people seem to miss that ;)

Baerchenization True a pdk is faster, I'm not arguing against that, but a manual is more involving. That's one of the points Chris is trying to make in the video. Not everything has to be about ultimate performance.

TheBlackIdentety Except neither me or Chris went apeshit over it. Opinions, everyone has one.

Guyz i was kidding :D Of course I understand what he meant .

Nope. Porsche is completely done with manual transmission, or so they say.

I'll let you in on another little secret. The upcoming 991 GT3 RS will be the last of it's kind. The next generation will have a smaller, turbocharged engine.. I'd say if you want one of the last, true GT3's get your order in now. Before it's too late..

rotor13 Porsche NOOOOOOOO!!!! fight to keep the manual alive!

PDK Clutch with automatic and dual paddle shifters

Taking away the manual takes away the feel.. I don't need some robot to shift the gears for me. A proper super car like the Porsche GT3 should be a manual even though that might be going away for good.

its also denying the fact that now the technology is that there are auto systems that shift faster than any human could and paired the right way with everything else its faster and better. Sure I'll admit the human to car interaction is lessened but you cant deny the technology coming out these days. You really think the hypers cars of today would be just as fast if it was a manual gearbox? the acceleration numbers would surely be slower even if its only by split seconds.

Detz0325 probably, but if your intention of buying a super car is simply to have fun and do the best you can, a twin clutch, or whatever automatic gearbox the car has, is not gonna cut it. Hamilton had a pagani built with a manual gearbox JUST FOR HIM, and he does drive f1 cars which aren't manual. show you that being fast is not always what people want. anyhow i doubt you would be racing your manual car all the time.

***** Maybe he did, but I didn't even think they were around when he was alive. He can get away with it though since he drove 1500HP turbo formula one cars with one hand while he shifted every 5 seconds with the other hand. Aryton Senna was a better racer and human being than you could be in two lifetimes.

Detz0325 I would rather go 0-60 in 4 seconds with a true manual gearbox than 0-60 in 3 seconds with paddles. How can you even enjoy beating people when a computer has to drive for you? It's pathetic, and a sorry excuse for rich amateurs to buy car's they can't remotely handle. IMO, if you need traction control, ABS, stability control, and paddle shifters just to not crash, buy a fucking Corolla. Any car built after the year 2000 is an electronic piece of shit.

mainlymusicman It is, but it's still worth it to have a true manual transmission.

How do you like the manual only 385hp Cayman GT4?

No rest for the wicked I'm soooooo happy !!! Can't wait to buy one ! Or at least to try it in my Porsche dealership ! :D

No rest for the wicked .

MagicAyrtonforever ...According to Porsche it's faster to 100kph (That's 62mph) than a manual Carrera S. It's 0.1s but still, you are wrong.

No rest for the wicked.

I have to agree I hate how they are getting away from a manual gearbox.

Nafir Alvarez I'm only happy about it because it makes the driver able to pay attention to the road and his driving capability.

I agree for performance it is better I guess It'll just take some getting used to.

Because of the safety requirements the car has to meet .

and i would buy it and hoon the hell out of it!! well said my friend!

***** My moaning is not about naked performance figures, it's more about driving sensation and the nature of performance delivery. See, a modern Golf GTI Mk VII, the car normal blokes can afford, it is a lot faster than the old GTI Mk I with its 109 hp, but it has lost all of its sensation of driving a small car and therefor most of the fun and that was all about Hot Hatches, the sensation of a light car, which one can't show by naked numbers, it has something to do with mass inertia and momentum. They've lost something important, the heavier the cars got, if you ask me. And it is the same with Porsches, the last of the aircooled 911s, the 993 with its sawing, croaky sound was another sensation, it wasn't that light anymore but it had kept enough of the 911 spirit. Modern cars feel synthetic, you are not driving and feeling them any longer, they drive you instead, even when their intelligent axle, steering and suspenison layouts support better figures in a broader range of surfaces. I'm asking those car manufacturers not to stop developing these superior, clean and secure modern cars of today, I'm asking them to keep at least one pristine model, which doesn't needs hydraulic or even electric steering cause it's light enough on the front axle. I wouldn't mind if they use modern construction materials and engine technologies, making them secure and clean, I'm just asking for keeping the sensation of a small and lively car.

GT3 RS

All the safety regulations today are crazy!

im going to be honest too, nobody gives a fuck.

Bruce R. Well then, it's somebody's time of month isn't it?

TacoSeniour dont worry taco, he gives enough of a fuck to reply

Gonzarelli I'll reply to anything that I want gonnohrea

Bruce R. Oh I see your one of those twelve year olds with a dirty mouth hiding behind your screen, but if the time came you wouldn't say that to their face.