I can listen to this gentleman for hours.

Poor old APT having to watch its estranged grandchildren driving by every day.

A project cancelled before its time :( I'd love to see this back up and running again. A great video; and a big thank you to all involved!

If only they got this back into service. That would be an amazing sight.

It's useless comparing the APT with the TGV, as the APT was designed to go round bends at speed - it was a 'tilting' train like the Virgin Pendolino and some high speed trains in Italy. The TGV on the other hand was designed to run on dead straight tracks with little or no bends at all. The TGV trains cannot corner at high speed, nor can the ICE trains or as most tragically seen, the Spanish AVE trains. In this respect the APT was a very different type of train with a unique set of demands.

Had the APT been allowed to succeed and more conviction shown, I've no doubt it would have assumed public affection just as Concorde was.

I love this train and am saddened that we came so very close to the APT being rolled out but it was (I think foolishly) abandoned at the last minute.

i spoke to a guy at the heritage centre last week and they want to get her back on the main line for railtours and things! let's start throwing some money in and see if we can achieve what the government couldn't and show the world what we can produce once more.

I visited the APT in Crewe last week. Such an advanced train for its time. It was so comfortable to sit in, even in standard class.

What a unique interview! Thanks!

I always wanted to ride on the APT in the 80s as a child, but we lived near the East coast mainline, not the west, so it never happened. It was a pretty fantastic train, and years ahead of its time.

Such a skilled gentleman

Thanks for the video. Good to see Bill again after all these years. I worked with him up to 85 when I left BR and went into nuclear decommmisioning. I had great fun driving the APT during test runs up to Carlisle at the weekends, nice bit of nostalgia for me. And Bill if you see this, it's the overcoat kid ;-)

Great video footage of one of the drivers of the APT-P train (class 370), nicely pointing out the variety of lights and buttons of the very 1980's dashboard, done by a very experienced driver who drove steam, diesel and finally electric locos in his professional career. In 1981 BR put the APT-P project under intense pressure to trial out passenger service between London Euston and Glasgow Central to point out to the money men the project was a viable asset, needless to say after a handful of trips the APT-P was withdrawn from public service which it unfairly never really recovered from, continued testing of various equipment--High Speed Pantograph, Dynamic Braking System, In Cab Signaling, Passive Tilting testing (basically to apply these tests for upcoming locomotives such as the class 90 & 91) and so forth, a mobile laboratory in essence, the APT team was broken up by BREL and scattered about which saw the very gradual demise of the class 370 APT-P (Advanced Passenger Train--Prototype) by 1986 which by then was running about in the northern section of the WCML. The APT-P as we see it today would not have entered squadron service on the WCML, the class 370 was a test bed prototype for the eventual design and build of the APT-S units, a variety of sketches and models were built but it would have most likely resembled the Inter-City 225 rake with the APT-inspired Mark IV coaches, the power cars (Locomotives) would have been at each end similar to the current Pendolino sets rather than in the center which would have compromised safety evacuation and access reasons. Despite it's brutal and unfair demise a huge amount of data and experience was gleaned by this limited-life class, we know most of the reasons why it was quietly withdrawn, mostly political and mostly for cost reasons as alternatives were sought based on the intense research undertaken. The Class 370 unit at Crewe can at least sit there with pride knowing she has contributed toward a faster, safer and efficient method of travel, and to be preserved gently as her descendants imperiously rush by. :-)

Despite it's incredibly short life, I think the APT has become something of a legend.....in a similar way that the Flying Scotsman, Mallard, and Blue Diesel Pullman are. It seems to have acquired 'mythical' status over the last 30 years. I was a truly amazing and revolutionary train that was too far ahead of its time and the money just wasn't there to keep investing in it. Remember our railways were state owned and run. There was no private sector involvement to provide funding.

It seems like the train itself already had in-cab signalling. So the train could operate upto 250kmh, just what's left is flexible speeds prepared for the APT if the fourth light is red. APT, brought down. Intercity 250, just on paper. Intercity 225, couldn't get the tilting on.

Fascinating video! And good on the people at Crewe for taking care of such a unique unit.

@mikebeckettvids Dear Mike. Thank you for the comments. It's great people like it. Even if it was just something we filmed on the side when working on the "A Story Of Steam" project. Thanks again = )

a old driver who still knows his stuff now days a young driver is a total cowboy

Somebody let this man drive the APT-P in Train Simulator!

Excellent little documentary, very, very well made, and a great insight from one of the old BR guys. Thanks very much!

1:08 such a beautiful logo, as should be expected from top British graphic designers-world class leaders. it may be that the letters blend into each other to convey speed, ie theyre going so fast the letters havent had time to catch up

Pure Gold! Thank you so much for publishing this. B-)

Once again, This is priceless stuff: Bill's asides are the stuff of social history, unavailable anywhere else,,, Congrats!

Fantastic video; thanks for uploading it.

@FM60260 Hi there. It is located at the Crewe Heritage Centre and is indeed open to the public. Both for looking and entering it. There is a little museum on board with information, photos, models etc for the APT project. Well worth checking out. There's more info on the Crewe Heritage Centre's website I believe. Hope that helps. All the best!

i like this train a whole lot..i hope they get it running soon..i am getting the hornby version very soon..awesome video of an awesome train!!

Ok, so it's highly unlikely this will ever return, but when rail companies make new (fast) trains, I wish they would produce something like this. Awesome design.

Beautiful British Loco❤

They kept running the prototypes in service for a few years I believe

Another world beater, BUT in the THATCHER era. I know a couple of ex BR Derby engineers who rode on APT when only BR employees could ride on it for their views on ride quality. Both told me it was very good !! THATCHER British Industry Murderer.

Excellent.

i seen this train today and it brought me here.. i was wondering why there was a bunch of cool trains together near crew station

we want to recreate the photograph that launched the pendos in 2002, the APT and the pendo lining up together, it could be done but we would have to be quick and wait for the pendo service to Liverpool and hope its going slow enough !

@david40686 Two power cars for the APT remain. One is at the NRM Shildon and the other can be seen in this video. Most clearly at 01:08

i think i may have been there. is there a tesco around there somewhere if there is ive sat in the cab of the apt

will it ever run

Very interesting to watch.

Amazing as seen in cab the max speed is 125 the same as HST and the claimed top speed is 140 mph which is the same as the HST achieved on a speed run. The only reason APT was a failure was with regard to leaning around corners. The question is: had the tilt mechanism for APT been locked off then would APT have had as long and successful service record as HST? Unfortunately we will never know. Two things are certain in 2022, APT is still a thing of beauty and HST is a legend of rail transportation.

how good would it be to get this running again

Excellent video.

Now that our railways are no longer state owned and run, I don't see why this cannot become a reality. It would be amazing to see an APT run on British train tracks again. The train seems to have assumed almost mythical status. Is there a British train more rare out there?

Loved the video

Fantastic train seen it at crewe brains done a top job of looking after the train a Fantastic British icon

yes one power car at 1:08 for sure know pete watermann said he took a complete set from BR to hide when the fall out from the APT was kicking off would be nice apt vs pendolieno

Originally an American project they had no need for it as the tech was 'inadequate'. We had the biggest single advantage though. Supercomputers. It was re-engineered by RR and was found to be very reliable and very powerful but also very expensive. So the rocket motor found another use, collaborating with the French and the Italians for a multi-stage rocket. On nearly every launch something went wrong. The British stage worked *every* time. The other stages always had something go wrong.

Very well done. Too bad to see the trainset rusting away on a siding...:(

Nicely done.

Bill Andrew was also the driver of the Hogwarts express in the movies

Really enjoyed this video.

Awesome !

Crewe men were only on APT for about a year.

What a top bloke,and to think the APT was shelved because it didnt quite work first time out,I wonder if they will shelve the 70's because they keep setting themselves alight ?,I doubt it

a damn shame. made in the days when Britain could still make things. some decent investment would have made it work

It was too good though according to some and took away all feeling of lateral G-force. As a result it made some passengers feel queasy. This would have been corrected with some minor tests and adjustments, simply by removing 2degrees of tilt. The result would have been effectively the ride you get on the Pendo's today.

I visited here on Sunday and loved it. One question though, on the floor of the APT is a metal plate which looks like a large brake but I was wondering if this is a dead man's handle and if the pressure is taken off it, the train will brake?

What a great video :-)

This train is as beautiful as the Concorde, but did got it's golory.

Brilliant that!

Very good this

APT was a head of its time...

A Future restoration to main line project?

Ted heath did NOT make the same mistake with RR's RB211 though - at least he had some balls to support it all the way through, Trent AWB and XWB wouldn't exist and Airbus would otherwise be heading to GE in the 'States or even a French company to provide all of their units. Trent AWB is considered the most efficient engine in the world! - eezy1972 - I'll send you a youtube link for Blue Streak.

would be lots to do yes but where theres a will theres a way

interesting stuff

:( cant believe you done this vid

Can the public actualy go and see it or is it stored out of view?

Hi Scott, its not rusting to death has the coaches are made from aluminium so wont rust, fortunatly. Its in very good condition considering it went out of service 26 yrs ago, but like yourself i would love to see it "out there" but until i win the lottery or we have a very rich and generous person come along, im afraid its stuck where she is.

Where did u get the music from?

actually waterman had nothing to do with the APT, BR stored it over Crewe ETD for around 2 yrs then it was moved to the Heritage centre, where it still remains. If you listen to what he says on certain videos he says " he" had to hide it for 10 yrs as part of the agreement, man he dont half talk crap !

is there a train in one cab ???????????????????

The APT is the basis of most modern high speed trains, as ever, British engineers were way ahead. It was brainless BR managers that cut short the most iconic train of all time. However, it did make the HST 125 class 253 (now 43) the icon it still is. What a shame. They are both icons in their own way. I miss the APT and what she could have been. I say, bring her back, a few refinements, and she is still ahead!

Max speed of 155MPH

Microwaves??

I live here!!!!

WHERE IS THIS TRAIN AND WHEN CAN I SEE IT

if we renationalise the railways and bring back our infrastructure I hope we build more of these and the intercity 250 but time will tell.

Poor APT, must be lonely as the only existing train unit , why on earth British rail did'nt roll these train unit out on the network is beyond me. hope they get this unit out for a spin soon, it just sitting there rusting death.

clearly there the opinion of an expert in such things....

Advanced passenger train, was so advanced it lasted 5 minutes.

A pity we sold it onto the Italians - we were just so close to having it totally perfected by a few more months.

she was ahead of her time because the onboard technology wasn't good enough to handle how they wanted to run the train, it's like trying to access the net on a pocket calculator, lol. still sad that she could do 155mph yet our own tilting virgin flagships had to be bought in from abroad and can only do 125 - like diesels built in the uk in the 70's could do!

Was the idea at the time to standardise the control layout so it was same as hst? it looks the same?

berghaus JAGUAR

Only spectacular by the fact that the project was rushed through at the end - It was 95% complete and was in test phase. The government said they were getting fed up with putting money on it and decided to sell it to the troubled Pendolino project- on the cheap I might add.Months later everything was signed off. And now we are buying back what we invented... . so in that sense, like Rolls Royce Blue Streak was sold off to the French for Arianne, yes it was another spectacular British failure.

Seem as though your a minority, and if you knew what this train produced through its test phases perhaps you wouldn't be so cynical. For a start we sold the tilt idea to the Italians, the power cars went onto produce the class 91s and pantographs on to the class 90s etc. some joke eh???

It seems like the train itself already had in-cab signalling. So the train could operate upto 250kmh, just what's left is flexible speeds prepared for the APT if the fourth light is red. APT, brought down. Intercity 250, just on paper. Intercity 225, couldn't get the tilting on.