I agree! There were protest with increased tuition but I don’t think the protest was successful of making any change.

Keira Manners doctors in the U.k. also do not make nearly as much as they do in the US. If it was truly outrageous there wouldn't be 100s of thousands of people lining up trying to take 350k in debt to become a doctor. It is still worth it because it pays off in the long run.

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Our health care system should be more like other countries too! #universalhealthcare

Jenny Le Hopefully in our lifetimes.

If only

Jenny Le yes, in that case America should be like the other countries when doctors get much lower wages as well?

If we don’t have the ridiculous amount of school loans - yes! I know foreign physicians who live very comfortably.

That’s also the reason why the government charge such high interest rate on school loans

I am sorry to hear about your sister. My prayers goes out to you and your family. If you do become a successful physician, paying back these loans won’t be as daunting when you have more disposable income.

Yes! You're right. Currently working as a CNA (60-80 hours during the summer) and about 24 hours during the school year so I can keep my grades up. And thanks for your thoughts, she was the very best and her doctors are the reason I want to go into medicine.

That’s an awesome mindset! Good for you 👍🏼

I suggest only taking out what you need. There’s a grace period where you can return the money. Just because the loans starts building interest right when you pull it out. Congratulations!!

Jenny Le yep, i took out the absolute bare minimum without feeling restricted, and I think it was a good decision considering how much debt I’ll be in! Thank you so much! It means a lot coming from you :)

Oh yes!! My friend is working in her home town doing primary care they they’re paying back her loans in 4 years. I think she signed with them as a intern!

Where can I get the list of the places?

Good luck !! 🤓

thanks so much :)

Partial reason why we have such careless doctors in disadvantaged areas

I’m curious to hear your reason how the two are correlated

I know tons of fellow med students who have a side gig...

What kind of side gigs do they have?

Hey Jenny! So this is why I said so: I'm aware that not every physician is careless, however, in the years that I have volunteered/worked in medical facilities in a disadvantaged area (where I reside, AND want to continue working), I've encountered many physicians that do not care for the people they are servicing, either because they are too "ghetto" or they don't understand the language/culture. They are only in the community because they get some deduction on their loans. And I am not assuming this, these doctors have voiced such things themselves. But this is just my opinion from experience.

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Paola Lasanta you should watch some Dave Ramsey videos with people who went to chiropractic school before you start... I’m 😐 sorry. Not saying you should follow his plan, I just want you to hear some of these people’s stories.

The interest rates are ridiculous

Isabel Emma hmm I never heard of anyone doing this before

I’ve made a video on that. Old, but the information is the same. HOW I GOT INTO MED SCHOOL kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldlxrcqFzs_Qd6M.html

Jenny Le ok thank you so much!

Alleysthoughts but how much does the average doctor make compared to the average doctor in the us? It's all relative.

Z Cart. Honestly almost all jobs get paid more in America..like nurses make 40k-50k a year here on average. Not a lot of jobs get you close to 100k. The salary of a family doctor is 8k a month, the salary of a cardiologist is 11k a month and the salary of a neurosurgeon like is 35k a month (based on what I've been told by family members with the job). Meanwhile the average income of someone living here is like 2.8k. The cost of living is cheaper here than it is there tho.

😂 so how are you paying for school?

Leah Rubin Heyy! I find this really interesting - could you explain why?

There’s a comment thread explaining this if you scroll down.

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J'adore Jamie Go into STEM. They pay you for grad school in STEM

tuan nguyen not if you just earn the minimum wage $11 per hour! Is not going to work

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WORST. IDEA. EVER! Becoming a doctor is hard work. Those who are not in it for the right reasons could fail out of med school and be stuck with this huge debt without any way to pay it. Being a doctor is hard work. We don’t get compensated as greatly as people think we do. If you want to be rich go into something else like investment banking.

Jenny Le Did you go to med school with people like that?

There was 1 person who failed out in my class and 2 who failed out in the class after me. If medicine is not your passion, you will struggle

I think you should be worried if your career does not have a guaranteed job after graduation.

I think someone else asked this and she said that she took out loans to pay for everything.

Yes you take out loans to cover tuition and expenses.

Or sign away your life to the military!

Jenny Le Please explain in a video why if the demand for physicians is so high, but they make it so diffcult to become one?

Jenny Le Another thing is Pre-Reqs have an experation date?

Yes they do. It might be 3-5 years. Not sure exactly

Jenny Le High demand, but they supressing the market for the demand to met the market.

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well, that sounds like a great way to spoil kids, if they dont have to pay for anything, kids will never grow up, this "i deserve" entitlement is getting outta control here in usa, and now europe too

I think that just depends on the individual. I personally think it is worth it but I’ve read many comments whom would disagree with me.

its still worth it. I think the limit will be around 1.5mil to 2mil debt on the current salary. that will be the point where its objectively not worth it

I believe it was because her institution did not qualify for federal loans

I took out enough to pay for rent, bills, food, gas ... basically everything lol. Cost of living and how much you will need depends on where you go to medical school

Exactly! I went to pharmacy school- and finished under 18k total debt. But it was so dumb seeing colleagues living the lifestyle before the paycheck. Living in nice neighborhoods, driving nice cars, going on vacations, buying expensive shit while in school (purses, makeup, going out, etc). I had 2 jobs during most of pharmacy school. 2 jobs. Get it done, don’t make stupid lifestyle choices. I have a student who is not even 21yrs old who has already saved enough money for her first pharmacy school year. She’s still on schedule and not behind any years in college. She works her butt off. And trust I’ll be helping her on her way up.

1jojoey i am hoping I can get the VA to pay for it. I want to go to Roseman which is 50k a yr bc its accelerated... but 18k is great!!

I have never met a physician who is unable to pay back their loans. Some might take longer than others depending on their salary and how serious they are about paying it off. The one great thing about being a physician is that I know I will always have a job.

Manny Perez I agree

Manny Perez you save lives. I think it’s worth it.

Congratulations!!

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I have a friend who went to school to be a pharmasist and ended up with about 300k in student loans. All depends on the costs of the school you're accepted into / living expenses.

Did you friend go out of state or go to a private pharmacy school?

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Jenny Le Absolutely! 🙌❤️

I personally do not. But you scroll down in the comment section there is someone who just commented on MD/PhD programs!

Etsy!

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I would think not but I might be wrong.

Yes it does! But these programs are extraordinary competitive. I have two friends who are in an MD/PhD program and their tuition is covered, plus they get the same stipend that the PhD students get (~40k of extra income a year). I think both friends who are in the program have class sizes of 12 and 15, extremely small.

Good to know!! Thanks for sharing 👍🏼

Sapphyre Sprinklez do you know how long it takes them to complete the degree? And also does stipend apply to the years they do research or the entire time they’re in the program?

Remy Vu Remy Vu I’m a non traditional student and interested in this pathway as well. From what I know you can matriculate into an MD/PhD program OR you can decide after your first year (MS-1) that you want to apply. Depending on the situation it can take anywhere from 6-8 years, I’ve come to the conclusion based on people I’ve met that an average would probably be 7-8 years. You start lab rotations before you begin your first year of academic medical school curriculum, then you begin your MS-1 year. Between MS-1 and MS-2 academic years, you don’t get your summer off, you work in the lab, in fact you don’t get any summers off. Then you go back and complete MS-2. You leave your cohort and during the summer you complete Step-1/clerkship/rotation. After step-1 you work in the lab, for however long it takes you to complete your work. Could be 2 years, could be 4, it’s dependent on how strong of a scientist you are and dedicated you are. During those years, you complete graduate school coursework as well, nothing too rigorous because most of your Academic medical school courses count towards the PhD pathway as well. You complete any graduate qualifying exams, defend your thesis and then join the next cohort for the last two years of medical school, take your steps....BUT to be marketable you should consider a post-doc before or after residency. So that’s going to add an additional 2-3 years but it’s not mandatory. The grant covers all of your years of tuition from beginning to end, and the stipend is dependent on the school, I believe some schools pay for the years you are working on your thesis but tuition is cover for all years (I believe Duke is one, don’t quote me) and others the stipend is for all 7-8 years (ISMMS, northwestern are two that I can think of off the top of my head). I would suggest that if you’re interested in this pathway, have extensive research experience and have published in a major science journal. Both of my friends and people on the admissions committee that I’ve talked with at the hospital I work at have mentioned that that is very important, both of my friends had published 4 and 5 papers and had 3.9 and 4.0 GPAs respectively.

I have all federal loans. I do not believe there is a limit. Most medical students I know graduated with around 200-300 in school debt. I was talking to some preceptors who said they had fluctuating interest loans where their interest would go up to 17-21%

@@drjennale that is my biggest concern with medical school and why I was considering the PA/NP route. I need to double check my info on the borrowing limits. Thanks for the reply.

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My family was poor but we always believed that higher education was the key to a better future. As for having a baby, it didn’t really slow me down from reaching my goals so there’s nothing negative anyone can really say about that.