mirgae the gamer 😂

Thanks for the review, dude looks like he knows how to jerry rig a bunch of things.

Have 58x headphones, is it even worth it to upgrade to the 6xx?

And guess it won't sound different, thanks for the review!

He also sounds like a WWE (WWF) commentator :-)

Thank you man! Just recently got serious about it so we'll see where it goes. 🤞

I agree! Imo a lot better then most big tech channels. As long as it stays this no BS/no sell out kinda way this channel WILL grow!

Best headphone comparison video I've seen

That 25K shocked me too. Subbed.

Mistermoeshmoe i agree! I’ve been looking at reviews of the 58X and comparing these two and this is the best I’ve seen!

same here and i like my 58x a lot more then my 6xx

I bought 2 no lie 😂 I need to make better decisions

Got my 650's here and they are great!

I use my 580x with a GSX 1000. I'm happy with the results although I don't have another amp to compare.

Bokyu How is the sound leak on these?

Its a bit late, but do you think without an amp it would still be very good for gaming? Ive been using steelseries 7 for a while and want a new headset and i really dont like what " gaming" headphones atm nothing seems really better than my steelseries.

@@omjviper5835 you dont really need an amp as long as the headphone reaches a reasonable volume, which the 6xx will do with the amp in your computer

@@liiou4445 what about with a PS5? will it be enough without a amp?

@@omjviper5835 go with the 58x if you haven’t already bought the 6xx. I have both but the 6xx is terrible for gaming be cuz of its poor imaging. Not to say it’s a bad headphone. It amazing for music, movies and entertainment and for casual games but definitely not for competitive fps games. 58x while the sound stage is similar, it has very good imaging, seperation, layering, and depth and you can tell where things are with the “small” soundstage provided. Quotation marks on small because it’s small for open back headphone but definitely wider than any closed back headphones and still sounds spacious.

​@@HeyNavi Not wider than closed-back Beyerdynamics DT-770 250. Price and sound quality on that and HD58X are very very close. For anyone considering which of those to get, here are the pros and cons: DT770: closed-back means sound isolation, none gets in or out; better soundstage, better sub-bass, crispier sparkly treble. HD58X: more neutral tuning, more organic natural sound, micro-slightly better detail resolution?, non-fatiguing cozy romantic feel to the music. If you put a gun to my head to pick one for my ONLY headphones I'd really hesitate but maybe pick the 58X, but that's just based on me slightly preferring that cozy organic natural. The 58X really shine at classic rock. With that said, an interesting variant is to go for planars like Hifiman HE400 series or Sundara or HE560 if you've got a little more money. They are slightly less lush than the two dynamics mentioned, especially the 58X. But the better soundstage and detail are an impressive notch up in those areas. As in "wow".

Which do you reach for more?

Tried to wipe a hair off my screen thanks to you

Qual o melhor?

Thanks bro! 👊

Really? Do they hit your jaw or something? And I want DT990s bad but I'm really hoping the Beyer gets with it and updates their cabling system soon.

Squeeze the sides of my head a lot, and the solid top band gives me headaches (many of that style - vs suspension band that float - do). I stretched em out a bit, even chipped off some of the labeling on the top band as a result, but they still sit heavy

@@EposVox Try putting them on a foam yoga block to stretch them out even more. I have a pair of HD558s, and compared to my HE-4XX, the clamping force is a lot less and they are so much lighter it feels like they aren't even there.

@@badseedtech it needs an update. And that treble is insane. Cannot be good for your ears!

@@EposVox you can stretch out the headphone bracket and kinda bend it outwards with both thumbs on the bracket. There’s a more specific video on it.

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

Did you get them? How are they?

@@almog3875 I did, so far I am really happy with them. They do exactly what I wanted. Helped with my tinnitus hearing sensitivity while gaming, and my anxiety from the closed in sound. I'll be doing a video myself on them soon, in case other people have similar issues to what I have. :)

@@PixieLaLuna That's awesome, I'm happy for you ^^ Thanks for the reply

Do u use an amp?

@@amuuusing6713 I know it's late and not my comment but I use the JDS labs atom with them which is a nice 100 dollar amp, it is plastic but its completely ok and well built only issue is the nob can be taken off but it holds well and is MORE than enough to power the hd58x jubilee's which I've been rocking these 2 combined for almost 2 years now I believe

Thanks a lot man!

Thank you!

Thank YOU! I really appreciate the support!

Hope you still like them, I've just done a similar upgrade after a decade on my dt990s.

How are they??

Thanks man! 2019 feels like its gonna be big!

TheRealTechLead he has one! Check the description

😂😂 I'm dead

do you use an amp with them? i am upgrading from hyperx clouds and i was wondering if the sound is good for competitive games without an amp? thanks bro!

Thank you so much man. That really means a lot.

which is best for comfort tho

Which did you go with?

Do you still have them after 2 years? Did it break so easily and how long u had them before it broke?

Told you I would!! 😄 and no, sorry, have never used Lucid products.

Nice!!

@@badseedtech Just an update, but for me the stack is totally worth ~$200! I've been testing it with the Sony WH-1000XM3 (both with and without ANC on) since I'm waiting on my HD6XX and is pretty damn impressive! It might be an idea for a future review.

Thank you sir!

Absolutely, thanks for watching!

Thanks, and you shouldn't feel like you're settling for the 58X - they are soooo close to the 6XX. And you should be good using an interface in the short term even though the Scarlett is bus powered, I'm pretty sure they class it for phones up to 200ohm. Thats the beauty part is that they can grow with you if you expand into an amp at a later date.

Right, its like a hypnotist's pendulum. Your eyes are getting very heavy...heavy..heavy. Concentrate on my voice... Buy sennheiser 58x, or Buy sennheiser 6xx... Theyre both great. Theyre both super values. When i snap my fingers, you will awake feeling refreshed, like a great weight has been lifted from your chest. And you will nolonger be familiar with the brands beyerdynamic nor audio technica. You will forget them. Sennheiser...sennheiser! *snap*

Fiio Btr5. Great power and impressive sound in a super small package.

Oh most definitely. The HD 58X sounds waaaay more veiled to me personally. It's also why I'm fearful to tread into audiophile reviews. I've listened to reviewers rave about certain phones and they sounded WILDLY different to me after I bought them.... eventually I've learned to know the reviewers well enough to make an educated decision but sometimes I feel like that's too steep (and expensive) a learning curve for me to put my viewers through. It's definitely an area where I will step lightly going forward.

@@badseedtech I don't envy you on that front. Subjectivity turns into objective war declarations on the internet. Great video production by the way.

Thanks for watching man.

I've got the HE4XX up next for headphones and then I'll see about the k7xx for sure. I'm already getting a lot of comments that they have a better soundstage.

I've heard just about everywhere that the k7xx only wins in soundstage and everything else is lackluster. Definitely looking forward to the HE4XX though!

Dat Hombre the 4XX are very good but have bad quality control. I’ve had two of them and both had driver failure.

Thats an amazing comment dude 😂 thanks!

I appreciate the support more than you know, man. Don't normally talk about it but the beard is symbolic. The day I decided to grow it, I was coming out of some heavy real-life shit. It marked a revival for me on a lot of levels. There's a warrior behind that beard. It's awesome that you've been there since jump. This year is gonna be one for the books.

BadSeed Tech Bro I’m looking forward to the growth. I’m glad you got your personal life sorted enough to come back. Remember that you always have to go through trials to get to where you’re meant to be. This year I just moved to NYC I’m starting a new job and having my first kid. A lot of change coming my way. I’m glad that you’re back dude. I wish you nothing but the best and look forward to seeing Bad Seed tech coverage at future CES and Computex Expos.

Thanks man! 👊

Haptics are fun - sometimes - but for $200 you can have some REALLY nice headphones. I'd go for pure quality audio over haptics.

Definitely going to review more high-end but will never stop reviewing gaming headsets as some people just don't have the budget for high-end audio gear.

Thank you!

Thanks man!

The highs do not sound muffled at all. Very clear probably just a little less than the 6xx. Do not buy them if you want bass tho. As mentioned in the review, they arent particulary bassy. Maybe something like the Cloud alpha would be a better chice for gaming with bass. I still do like mine for gaming, just want to warn you.

@@misterx3666 I got the HD598 SR's

Thank you!

It also depends on the sound sensitivity also These have a sound pressure of 104db maybe those hav else’s sens

Thanks man! That's exactly what I was going for and the artist smashed it. Check out Josh Hilliard aka Feathers from the Blocktronics Crew.

Pricy but I'll see if they can send one on loan.

BadSeed Tech ya that is true

Same

There is a sound difference also.

Thanks Daniel!