I have never used the ZMF Lambskin preforated, but I have been using the Dekoni Lambskin Preforated for years on my 650s. They look pretty much identical to these in every way, and I have only had to replace them once in 2 years with daily use.

@@user-vi3tb3bw5t The thing is, the Dekoni pads change the sound of the 6xx to something I don't like. The crisp mids turn kinda muddy and there's way more bleed into the lows and highs. I love the sound of the stock pads, but they start breaking down after a few months of average use. That's why I was kinda hoping DMS would have made a video with an update on how the ZMF pads were holding up, since they sound like the stock pads.

@@H2SJaeger I used mine for 2 years and didn't notice any kind of breakdown in sound quality, I only replaced them because they started to get grimy. This is the fenestrated sheepskin. They definitely last longer than stock. I know eq is blasphemous for some people, but a little eq goes a long way when done properly. I have a custom eq that I use for my pads.

I think it was you yourself (dms) that said to better stick with stock pads on the hd600 line , because every other will change the sound, which is why you got it :). Mine is 2 year old and didn't notice a change to be honest , but maybe it goes slowly so i don't notice it. I use other headphones, and my 6xx still gives me the Sennheiser vibe when putting them one. And clamping force... After 2 years:). I will try these i think if they are available easily in the EU. Just to see if i noticed a change and like it.

@@user-vi3tb3bw5t You can use an equalizer to compensate. I definitley prefer the better bass extension on elite velour pads, however, senny velour material is a lot more comfortable and supple. The leather on the other hand.... good if you want a lot more bass.... but damn they get fatiguing. if you squish the elite velour pads down a bit, you can get the og sound signiture back to almost stock.

i was wondering, thank you bro I will order one now.

@@UnicornStrength99 glad I could help

TY king 👑

Damn! Will try. Maybe I'll wash them first and put them in a hot air dryer!

can I do this with a heatgun (from a soldering station)? would a temperature setting of 100C be ok?

@@Allen-R No , I wouldn’t advise doing that … hair dryer works well . Or a hot air dryer would probably do the trick.

so how do they hold up now?

How did they hold up?

​@@jw112mail Hold up did they how?

how they hold up now?

I second this, they make the headphones sound super close to stock sound, but the awkward squeaky noise bothers me more than it should. It's most noticeable when adjusting or moving the headphone around.

I could have helped Zach design the ideal closed-back Focal pads. Unfortunately, he & Bevin decided to spit in my face. After purchasing $800 in pads from the ZMF store across multiple orders, Zach attempted to excuse his 'support guy' for advising me with false information. I purchased pads that did not fit my stated sonic desires, but no compensation was offered. I was then sent a B-Stock Verite pair, although I ordered A-stock at full price. The replacement pair had stiff foam and completely different sonics. Even with photographic evidence showing the difference in foam density (weight support), ZMF declined to address the differences - sending wordy emails with false information instead - and eventually stopped to respond to my emails on this unfinished business. Shockingly unprofessional customer support from ZMF... very against their reputation.

Can relate, lmao

How have they held up? Which version did you go for?

I also tried Dekoni pads , and DROP pads, AND YAXI pads on my HD 600,6xx,660s. All of them was not for me . I am back to stock pads also. The problem is that hard to bealive ZMF change that .

@@Tripokaridos22 I also thought about trying the yaxi pads, they have some excellent pads for other headphones but I knew they were different enough in design that they were going to change the FR. For me the hd6X0 line is so good for their tone that I really didn’t want to change that, I only tried dekonis line because I was trying to enhance the soundstage/imaging but I gave up and just appreciate my hd650 for what it is now. The 650 is the only headphone I have left from the 6 series now and I honestly only ever use them once in a while for reference and comparing to new headphones. If I used them more I’d definitely try zmf pads but I use them so little that the new sennheiser pads I put on almost two years ago are still just like new.

@@lumntoob999 The Yaxi pads for my HD 6XX and HD25DJ was really bad experience , they look amazing the build was great really great but omg there was a LOT a LOT of mid bass on both of them . I still think that Original pads is the way to go , i give up on everything else. ZMF cost to Europe 100 euros so i dont think they worth it because on this price i get 3 x original pads :) . If u want bigger Soundstage u can Try 660s the imaging is the best for sure and Soundstage is a bit bigger. Also price in Europe its close to the 650 and 600. For example in my Country its 310 for HD600 , 350 for HD 650 and 380 for HD 660s . But i know that in US there are different prices and also there is the HD 6XX line that cost 240 ( i have them to but cost me 300 with Vats) Didnt worth it .

@@Tripokaridos22 yeah I’m in the US and I have already owned the 660s but sold them along with the 58x and 600, I only kept the 650 and then I got a hd800s. I also recently got the hifiman edition xs and those are really amazing for the price, I paid $499 usd.

@@lumntoob999 Can i ask ? Some people that have HD 660s said that they feel darker than HD6XX. I use them side by side and to me its clearly that HD6XX is darker than HD660s, do u remember how yours sound ? Hifiman Edition XS for 499 ??? WOW My Sundara cost 410 euros New ... Edition Xs are one of the best HEadphones i have seen and a dream to buy... But they cost a lot . What do u think about those?

might as well call them IEMs LOL

Theyre 70 ?? lmao

That's basically 1/3 of the price of the headphones, I would also want to get an update on them before switching them out.

@@timekeep3r Yeah. Bend over. lol.

I would love to know what you think of the suede pad on the 58x, if you decide on getting them!

I have not tried or heard about the Yaxi HD600, 650, etc. pads, but like DMS said, pretty much every pad swap on this line really messes up the sound so I doubt that Yaxi would just get lucky and it wouldn't mess it up. Best bet seems to be these new ZMF pads

Which of them do you use on your 660s?

@@danielzweipunktnull2670 I got the Suedes. They looked small but still are super comfy

What do you think about the Sound compared to Stock Pads?

I have no magic ears but I think I agree with DMS remarks. Sound close to stock but are very comfy

Thanks for your answers Buddy. I'll Take a closer Look.

Can you give more info please? Or do you have a link please?

@@Thoughtflux Google is your friend. I searched "sennheiser Mod House" and it came right up. Then search "angled Brainwavz oval pads"

because the pad slightly changes the angle of soundwave hitting into your ear. It's a different mechanism.

@@allansh828 In DMS's example, he's refers only to FR and says nothing about delays or coherency. So yes, if DMS was claiming this is the source of the improved soundstage, then EQ "should" achieve the same thing

That's technically true. You should always try to find an analog solution to audio stuff though because eq can cause distortion

@@Lord_Mad_Dog all analog EQ's cause distortion. The only thing that doesn't (linear phase equalizers) exists exclusively through DSP. Unless you just mean finding an acoustical solution. In that case, for FR I'd personally take a decent parametric EQ any day over headphone mods. It's just that they are hard to come by on portable devices, despite the insane cost of modern DAP's

Lol

They fair great. This is the best thing you can do to your 6X0 before mass-modding (kiss mod etc.) them. And if you do both you got yourself a 1k+ contender with adequate amping.

@@mariodrv All you guys know is that magic audiophile unicorns are expensive. Do you know how sound works?

Zachs pads are much better. Tried almost everything there is.

@@mariodrv how about yaxi pads?

@@wyx5854 These are the best by a long shot. They transform the headphone.

@@mariodrv all ZMF pads are leather right?

@@wyx5854 Have you watched the review? Do you know how to use google?

Tried them and put the stock pads right back on. Velour is more cool and comfortable compared to the hotter suede and well the sound is wider but different. So don’t buy different pads expecting better. Just expect a different sound. I don’t care to change the 6xx personally.

6xx and Bottlehead Crack is a match made in heaven

There allready are in Zachs video on them: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oNF0ftOk2LzRXY0.html

only original pads keep that legendary midrange in with every 600 series, best and most important upgrade for those is and always will be tube amp, depending on tubes mine for example give them more energy and clarity, punch is way better and clarity of highs is more present, timbre sweet like fresh honey :)

@@soulfulfool I'm quite happy with the ZMF pads, both in sound and comfort. They are also much thicker than my old pads, which were getting worn out and flat enough to cause increased discomfort. I like your description though

@@Consola260 yea but I recently notice how bad trebles are xD even if you can enhance quality by tubes it is still fun headphone not much resolution up high or down low only center is a pleasure

thats nothing, I dont even consider them as full open, there are headphones that are really open and screams around like a little speaker (mostly big planars)

its annoying to use eq on a phone cause it needs way more power (if youre using subtractive eq, the correct way) but other than that people who dont like eq are just annoying purists

@@-aexc- there is no correct way to do EQ. There are many different ways but who's to say which one is correct. Though I would probably argue that whatever sounds best is the way to go. It will only use more power if provided with more bass than before. When I EQed my 4XX I reduced some of the midbass which means it was less power hungry. It's also tremendously fine tuning your EQ so that it sounds amazing. How depressing it must be to buy some expensive cans and not be satisfied and think there's nothing you can do apart from experimenting with pad rolling which is a very clumsy way of adjusting EQ.

DMS states it's annoying to him as he has a lot of headphones and reviews some more. But yeah, I'm with you 100%. There's a consumerist purism agains't using EQ that baffles me. People will literally have a whole wall of headphones for "different personalities" instead of EQing a good pair for their ears. For instance, there is little reason to own both the 600 and the 650/6XX when EQ is considered.

Which pads did you use on the 660s2, I just ordered the lambskin perforated, because i prefer a little more bass.

@@RayCabrera1 just stock pads for me

Hype salesman, not a real reviewer is my guess. This is the only place I've seen that has said that anything but the OG pads are better lol

Did you change the pads?

you definitely should, ive been using mine for a little more than a year and its already significantly deformed

@@-aexc- haha yeah, my only issue is, for music and gaming, I usually use either my Beyer dt 177x go or my focal clear, or my KEF ls50meta when I don't want to use headphones, the 6xx is being reserved for ms team call most of the time. So yeah just wondering if it's still worth it hehe.

nope they're bad unfortunately. They change the Fr quite a lot.

@@orthosympa6993 yeah they sound a lit boomier than the stock pads. Unfortunately i'm gonna have to use it since my old pads are so worn out