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Drums & Guitar Through T-Rex Echorec? [Guitar 'Pedals' As Studio Outboard]

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That Pedal Show

That Pedal Show

Күн бұрын

Mick explores using the T-Rexorec in two ways while recording a simple track
Welcome to the show! Regular viewers will know that Dan and I really love the classic Binson Echorec sound. Just recently we featured the all-new T-Rex Binson Echorec - video here • T-Rex Binson Echorec V... - and I was a little bit concerned with the noise floor in a regular guitar rig. I said I’d follow up with a short video trying out the Echorec’s XLR ins and outs in a studio environment, and here it is!
I start off using the Echorec on guitar, as an insert effect in the recording chain. This means the sound is committed to the recording.
Secondly I use the Echorec on a parallel bus to effect the drums, meaning that you’re not committed to the effected sound until you want to be, during the mix stage.
Of course there are many other ways you could incorporate external effects in recording chains but to my mind, these are the two most basic and common.
In conclusion - nope, it’s not too noisy on the XLRs! Happy days.
Enjoy the show!
Pedals & stuff in this episode
• Klon Centaur - no longer [sensibly] available
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• T-Rex Binson Echorec
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• Chase Bliss Audio CXM1978 Reverb
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• Austrian Audio mics (CC8s as overheads, OC18s on the guitar cab) austrian.audio/
• Neve recording loveliness www.ams-neve.c...
• UA Apollo interfaces www.uaudio.com...
Interesting bits and go-to sections
0:00 Why am I doing this?
1:15 Mods for studio use?
1:50 Insert effect or on a parallel bus
2:40 Drum kit mics?
3:28 Tracking drums and bass
4:00 Insert effect recording chain
5:00 Is it noisy then?
5:53 Guitar sounds with & without Echorec
7:35 Taming the input levels in the Echorec?
11:48 Echorec on a parallel bus
12:50 UA Apollo routing for bus
14:10 Adding Echorec to drums
18:00 And in a mix?
19:35 Let’s add some external reverb as well…
25:16 The whole track
27:35 Closing thoughts
Guitars in the episode
• 1961 Fender Stratocaster
• 1971 Fender Precision Bass
Amp in the episode
• Two-Rock Classic Reverb Signature 50/100 with TR112 cab and EVM12L speaker
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@rishabhbose29
@rishabhbose29 8 ай бұрын
Being a Pro Audio Engineer and also a Guitar Player and total nerd when it comes to all things Guitar, Pedal, Effects and Mixing and all that good stuff - this is gold level of nerdiness Mick. Ohhh the small day to day nerdy joys of our lives.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@dougmartin893
@dougmartin893 8 ай бұрын
Well put.
@sroelit
@sroelit 8 ай бұрын
This is probably not the type of TPS video that will get tons of views-but man, I really appreciate you committing this to video. Music is, for me, just the pursuit of sound that moves me. Whether that’s guitars, pedals, orchestra-so watching you hunt these sounds-what a great adventure. And it sounds ace.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Seth! It has become my main area of interest. Let’s see!
@mistople
@mistople 8 ай бұрын
Came here to say this too!
@BV_Beve
@BV_Beve 8 ай бұрын
“Yeah man! “… the sound of a happy mix engineer!!! … great stuff Mick 😊!
@SamuelPHell
@SamuelPHell 8 ай бұрын
"Echorec on a parallel bus" sounds like a b-side from OK Computer
@Jewdly
@Jewdly 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see you guys do a video on building a recording setup for beginners. Start with the absolute minimum a beginner would need to get started, then do a recommended progression of the order of gear to acquire, then finish off with your glorious setup.
@WillBrahm
@WillBrahm 7 ай бұрын
Mick this format is wonderful. More please. Thank you!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 ай бұрын
Thank you Will!
@weschilton
@weschilton 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for making this Mick! Using the EchoRec, or the EchoFix as outboard in my studio is exactly how I'd use this! And as a drummer for 50 years... nice playing!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Woah! Thanks Wes!
@jackduxbury1632
@jackduxbury1632 8 ай бұрын
All the Emoji’s of awesomeness are needed for this video 👍🤗🤩👏🙌🎉🥳🤯🫡🫶🦾 Thank you so much for the effort and execution Sensei X
@GCKelloch
@GCKelloch 8 ай бұрын
Dude! Solid drumming and bass playing. Who knew? Bravo!
@periloustemple8290
@periloustemple8290 8 ай бұрын
This is great! It's a great track with great parts - and this deep dive into the studio is amazing and inspiring thing. Thanks for doing this, Mick!
@riccaregio
@riccaregio 8 ай бұрын
I loved this video Mick, first of all you are having so much fun and enjoying every moment and second you didn't cut all the messy bit of your experiment that is what everyone one of us would go through if you are not super familiar with studio processes.
@alessandrodecarli2462
@alessandrodecarli2462 8 ай бұрын
One thing I absolutely agreed in this video is your happy face, Mick, beside the chance to twist knobs and create every single time something weird and totally new, that is the must important part of Music History. Many times we trying to recreate exactly what Pink Floyd did at Pompeii or Garcia did in Monterey Pop Festival or whatever we want to recreate but tha was magical just because of the analog nature of the equipment available at that time! And this new Echorec promise to do exactly the same things…4 thumbs up to T-Rex!!!!
@ElmoSyr
@ElmoSyr 8 ай бұрын
A tip to get only wet from a piece like this echorec is to print the track two times with the device. One wet and one dry (at the same volume) . Then flip the phase of the dry track and you're left with wet only, and you can print the sum of the tracks to a new wet only track. Just did this with my Binson.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Niiiiice!
@simonthompson9380
@simonthompson9380 8 ай бұрын
The joy of this video is the fact you would have done this anyway for your own curiosity. Thank you for letting us look in and join you!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Totally! To be honest, that what’s what it was really. :0)
@newQns
@newQns 8 ай бұрын
Exactly this; and one has to love it immensely to watch such a happy Mick! Thanks for sharing this
@jrchanning
@jrchanning 8 ай бұрын
That finished track sounds superb, great playing on all the instruments and those effects sounded awesome the way they were used, top notch stuff Mick and a great explanation of the process 🎸😄
@Chris.Wiley.
@Chris.Wiley. 8 ай бұрын
LOVE the composition and playing. Hats off to you for getting it to groove while playing the parts individually - that's not an easy thing to accomplish! I can't say I love the sound of the Echorec, but to each their own.
@RichardPribbernow
@RichardPribbernow 8 ай бұрын
Sounded EXCELLENT Your sound is ALWAYS above reproach.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Richard!
@mikewolfe9458
@mikewolfe9458 8 ай бұрын
This was a ton of fun to watch! Thanks for sharing. I’d love to see more of this on the show. There are so many cool opportunities for creativity in production and mixing, and you’ve certainly got a knack for it, Mick! Great work as usual!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike! I love doing this stuff. I know it’s super niche and most people don’t get it / aren’t interested…. But I much prefer doing this stuff than just playing guitar.
@TelecasterMaster1
@TelecasterMaster1 8 ай бұрын
Would love to hear more studio how-to videos like this. Thanks, Mick!
@DBroce
@DBroce 8 ай бұрын
I played this at NAMM (for two minutes) and thought if I could only have it for a day to see what it can do. I want to see more please, awesome video.
@bpmore
@bpmore 8 ай бұрын
These are my favorite TPS videos. So much fun to witness the process.
@ToddTheJoker
@ToddTheJoker 8 ай бұрын
As mainly a drummer myself(I steer away from saying I am a multi-instrumentalist cuz is sounds douchie) that plays guitar and bass as well, I want to give you props on the drumming and bass! Your guitar playing is always awesome but you have groove my friend! Awesome stuff!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Todd!
@ToddTheJoker
@ToddTheJoker 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow You are quite welcome my good sir!
@dcof546
@dcof546 8 ай бұрын
Mick, I have watched and enjoyed tps for years without commenting ever...that was sublime
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@TheHowardSinclair
@TheHowardSinclair 8 ай бұрын
This is fantastic Mick!! The finished track sounds reminiscent of my good buddy Lewis Creaven, a very groovy strat player. Fabulous sound, creativity, and abililty. Inspiration stations!!
@kmickp1166
@kmickp1166 8 ай бұрын
Excellent Mick, loved the playing (on all the instruments & the producing/engineering on the fly😂. That strat sounds epic!👏 I know what you mean re creativity & motivation, I wrote my first song at 55 & started recording at 60 ( I now have around 40 finished and loads of works in process, so the old dog is learning new tricks through test & learn ( & of course screwing up on a regular basis😂) Love the channel!🔥🔥
@toilettunes1
@toilettunes1 8 ай бұрын
thanks for that little glimpse into your processes i like how you leaned on the fact you were inspired by the gear ...great video
@rogernewport4196
@rogernewport4196 8 ай бұрын
I think Mick may have missed his vocation as a dub engineer/producer. 😉 It looks like Mick had a whale of a time making this video. Very enjoyable and it just goes to remind us what fun we can still have by exploring outboard gear rather than going for our favourite plug-ins.
@mammothaudioengineering
@mammothaudioengineering 8 ай бұрын
In all of my years recording and engineering professionally, I don't think I have ever seen anyone use a loop on a preamp - I didn't even know that's a thing! Thank you for this video and teaching me something new, you guys are awesome!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Inserts!? Every decent desk has them……
@mammothaudioengineering
@mammothaudioengineering 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow I have honestly just never thought about it. I also don't have a huge desk haha. I tend to go source -> mic -> pre -> comp -> - daw. If I record any time based effects, it's always before the mic. If not and I need a delay or reverb or whatever, it's most often on a send. I have a 500 series rack and the heritage audio 1073, none of my pres have a loop. It's honestly something I never even thought was a thing!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Ha! Cool! More fun to have. To be fair there’s not a //huge// difference in just running them in series when you have separate pres and 500 stuff….
@mammothaudioengineering
@mammothaudioengineering 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow no, I agree, the difference is negligible, but it's still great to be aware of these options. Of course one could always reamp or send it out like you did with the reverb and delay for the drums, but still. Learned something new and that's what matters!
@stevemaass3074
@stevemaass3074 8 ай бұрын
That was cool, Mick, watching you stretch out a bit and have some fun while in pursuit of answers.
@martiboucat
@martiboucat 8 ай бұрын
Loving the studio Mick! And well... we're now a bit closer to the release of the TPS Schwangri-La IR pack! I've always loved how TPS shows sound and those cabinets, microphones, and preamps (and audio engineer ears!) have a lot to do with that. The Two-rock, de Dual Mesa EVs, Two-rock + Matchless, The 60s VOX, VOX & Lazy J, Two-rock + Marshall,... C'mon, Mick! Make that episode about IRs and give us a bit of your Engineer ears so we can support TPS with some IR packs.
@Renn89
@Renn89 7 ай бұрын
The track sounded absolutely brilliant man. You’re an amazingly talented musician. I know that wasn’t the point of the video, but I really enjoyed it.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 7 ай бұрын
That’s very kind Renn, thank you!
@repomanband
@repomanband 7 ай бұрын
I still don't understand why the sound was different, but great episode just the same. I just need to watch it some more.
@MrNeilltupman
@MrNeilltupman 8 ай бұрын
Great video Mick, and a killer tune too! I'm not a studio hound, so understood less than 20% of what you did, but it was clear that the tactile nature of using the Echorec and CXM instead of plugins was inspiring you. Here's to more creativity and less option paralysis!
@OneMoreGrave
@OneMoreGrave 8 ай бұрын
Nice demo Mick! I was unsure of your sonic ideas until I heard it in the mix. Well done! It helped expand my ideas on drums quite a bit.
@Mawakax
@Mawakax 8 ай бұрын
You looked and sounded so happy while doing this ! It's a pleasure to witness. And the music is good too.
@sordel5866
@sordel5866 8 ай бұрын
In response to the statement "There's a mic on the floor, Tom" there was a good second there when I was wondering who Tom was.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Hahaha! And a mic on the ceiling, Fan?
@jordmosselman3403
@jordmosselman3403 8 ай бұрын
Dont crash into a cymbal folks....
@Joe-mz6dc
@Joe-mz6dc 8 ай бұрын
And why did Mike fall down on the floor?
@martinrobert1287
@martinrobert1287 8 ай бұрын
@@ThatPedalShow😂😂
@shamsam4
@shamsam4 8 ай бұрын
​@@martinrobert1287Ground control? Sorry, giant leap...
@Spuzzmacher
@Spuzzmacher 8 ай бұрын
A working echorec and Achilles Last Stand in one video! Love it.
@qfz2112
@qfz2112 8 ай бұрын
I recommend getting some in ear monitors if you want to hear what the mics are hearing when you're in the room with a loud amp. Most people only think of them as something to use in a live context but they can actually be super useful in a studio context as well.
@johnhood9278
@johnhood9278 7 ай бұрын
That Echorec sounds really cool, lots of info regarding the finer points of using it in a studio, much appreciated. Gotta mention it....the drums obviously have the Bonham vibe, however you also got reallly, really close to nailing Alex Van Halen's woody snare tone on For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and Balance albums. Alot of drummers have pondered how to get that sound to no avail. You're very close tho. Nice work!
@TiagoFrancomusic
@TiagoFrancomusic 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for all you do, Mick (and Dan)! You sound great and your effort on being super organized with your descriptions, timestamps, a great guitar player & singer and audio engineer is a pleasure to watch and overall a great musician! Thanks for your knowledge and enthusiasm :)
@ShinyShinyBlack
@ShinyShinyBlack 8 ай бұрын
Mick - loved the “song”, and that smile on your face when you got the reverb buss working. :) I have a hypothesis that the “real” advantage of analog is the three-dimensional workflow. We’ve all seen the shootouts by various companies (Universal Audio among them) demonstrating how close we are getting to emulating analog gear. In fact, in most cases, if the sound is all there is, I’d advise to buy good digital gear. However, humans really don’t do well in a two-dimensional world. We really are supremely advanced in operating in physical space, and I really don’t think we will ever be completely satisfied working on a screen, in menus when you could just turn a physical knob.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
I like this a lot. Niiiice!
@simongjose
@simongjose 8 ай бұрын
Gotta say the final mix was absolute quality. I reckon you're getting great compression of the Binson and the mix was superb. Well done Mik, thanks for the insight
@davidyelland908
@davidyelland908 8 ай бұрын
The look on your face all the way through tells it all. Great tones and playing all round.
@tommi-pro
@tommi-pro 8 ай бұрын
Great video and even better track well done Mick! I really can relate about twisting knobs and having a more analog workflow, more and more these days I find that I really do not want to spend more time than I have to staring at a screen and getting an overwhelming amount of options. Keep it up guys!
@dhod900
@dhod900 8 ай бұрын
Really love this Mick - and sounds great JFDI is my 2024-> mantra thanks to you and Dan
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Nice one Dan! It’s become mine too. 35 of years of not JFDing It has to stop! :0)
@caiofilipini
@caiofilipini 8 ай бұрын
I am overjoyed and extremely jealous! Well done, Mick. And thank you.
@edtweed5e4-a
@edtweed5e4-a 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant work Mick, I know how hard it is to create and record all your own parts and you did a superb job with both the playing and the recording of all the instruments. I really enjoy this level of studio nerdery, thanks for all the hard work it takes, and super job on the final piece of music! Well done Ed
@eaglerayrob
@eaglerayrob 8 ай бұрын
I really related to this, I have a space that I retreat to and do similar types of experiments. I call it the Tone Lab. Sometimes, some nice music happens. But I'm always fully engaged in the pursuit of Tonelyness. I really enjoyed this and it sounds great!!!
@SquareWaveSymphonies
@SquareWaveSymphonies 8 ай бұрын
Awesome! I really want an Echorec as outboard gear, now. Thanks, Mick! 😂 Great playing and cool song.
@JonNewquist
@JonNewquist 8 ай бұрын
Outstanding, Mick! I enjoyed this very much.
@mattysblues1
@mattysblues1 8 ай бұрын
Nice Mick, An egg on the kick?.. I alwzys thought they spunded a bit tubby for me. But that whole unprocessed drium sound is so sweet. Beautiful work man.
@ezraryan1424
@ezraryan1424 8 ай бұрын
New episode of That Kick Pedal Show!
@ronrumsey3205
@ronrumsey3205 8 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mick. This is very, very well done. Great playing as well as knob twiddling! Excellent production. Rock on!
@yohnsvain9651
@yohnsvain9651 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing the process.
@dougmartin893
@dougmartin893 8 ай бұрын
Great. Really enjoyed that. Thanks, Mick.
@tallalexander
@tallalexander 8 ай бұрын
Really interesting video. I completely agree; I’m happy to crack open an SD1, BD2, TR2, muff, fuzz face and mod these. I would be very reluctant to do something like that with a complex unit like this.
@Airfire21
@Airfire21 8 ай бұрын
Great little video - very much enjoyed it thank you Mick! I do have a suggestion for your mouse clacking issue... TPS mouse mats anybody?!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Nice! Love it Ed!
@SamColson4
@SamColson4 8 ай бұрын
Amazing video Mick - more like this please!
@troybrowne9218
@troybrowne9218 8 ай бұрын
That was brilliant Mick! Definitely one of my favorite videos ever!
@hegz1484
@hegz1484 8 ай бұрын
Dont get me wrong... All of ypur videos are my favourites!!! BUT this video is putting the pedal in That Pedal Show!!! Very awesome vid to see!!! Great stuff!!!
@hisproperty1438
@hisproperty1438 8 ай бұрын
G'day Mick, That was an excellent mixing job. The wet & dry guitar tracks came through my home sound system very well ( for Noel's knobs, PS3 -> Marantz amp @ 30% -> 2 Klipsch 30w speakers & a 10" subwoofer). The separation wasn't at a "Whole Lotta Love" level, but great, nonetheless. It was a joy to hear. Keep up the good work Andrew
@MrMystery666
@MrMystery666 8 ай бұрын
Pretty solid drumming there Mick.
@SeanJWestcott
@SeanJWestcott 8 ай бұрын
Great episode, really interesting … only better questions and new learning from TPS !
@dougmishoe1336
@dougmishoe1336 8 ай бұрын
This was great Mick!!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@ThomasHope73
@ThomasHope73 8 ай бұрын
Really diggin’ that tune; propa moody funk! Great Video!
@timchalmers1700
@timchalmers1700 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video !! I don't understand everything that you were doing, but I love the final result. Great track!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
I’m in the same boat Tim! Hahahahah!
@ncurri
@ncurri 8 ай бұрын
Great work. Really fun watching Mick create something. Like Noel said, we’re all just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks. If you’re motivated and inspired to pick up the guitar and play, then it’s already worth it.
@LTGold007
@LTGold007 8 ай бұрын
Mick the song itself was excellent love it do some more to it and make it your jam man
@tomfrank7
@tomfrank7 8 ай бұрын
Crazy seeing all that Neve blue and red in your racks! Everything sounds great, including your drumming! JFDI, thank you for today's inspiration.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Thank you Tom. It’s been quite the revelation. Whatever we think about the sound, the motivation to make noise is making me very happy! :0)
@LucasHaneman
@LucasHaneman 8 ай бұрын
Super cool Mick!! Really enjoy this video, and there’s an added bonus for me personally. I record like this all the time as I’m lucky enough to have a drum kit and a full set up at my place. You’ve inspired me to try using an old delay pedal as an insert :-) just realize my interface can do this too! So cool.
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Nice one Lucas! Have fun man. I LOVE this!
@zubeystinzen540
@zubeystinzen540 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant old skool analogue twiddling knobs & rockin ❤ it
@heychrisgreen
@heychrisgreen 8 ай бұрын
Reminds me of the “whatever brings you joy” mentality... You can tell he’s having a blast with it even though most people will just reach for a delay plugin 😅 you just have to ask yourself if you’d enjoy this way of creating music or if it’d be a pain.. I don’t think Mick minds the process 🙂Sounds great!
@haymakersboston
@haymakersboston 8 ай бұрын
Great video -- loved the whole approach and the message!
@lance134679
@lance134679 8 ай бұрын
Mixing using guitar pedals could be a whole series. I also occasionally use the Gamechanger Light Pedal optical spring reverb as it's very unique, but you could also use overdrive, or pretty well any pedals in mixing.
@whisperthiefmusic
@whisperthiefmusic 8 ай бұрын
I spy a couple of Meris 440 mic pre's! These are my absolute favourite pieces of gear in my little home studio. I use them when mixing so I can use the pile of guitar pedals I have as "outboard". They are the best things I've bought, love them. They're also just really good mic pre's too!
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
All TPS guitars for the last two years have been recorded with them, pretty much. I mention them now and again, but not enough!
@jonathananderson3897
@jonathananderson3897 8 ай бұрын
Ooh the moment I've been waiting for 👍
@isteve520
@isteve520 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic, killer recording!
@DarkAtFour
@DarkAtFour 8 ай бұрын
Really tremendously well put together vid. Very inspiring and informative.. thanks!
@horizontalblanking
@horizontalblanking 8 ай бұрын
Sweet! Now you can live out all your “When The Levee Breaks” dreams!
@davidsummerville351
@davidsummerville351 8 ай бұрын
You look pretty cool playing drums! 😎🤓 Good info as always. Thanks
@peterjessop1878
@peterjessop1878 8 ай бұрын
Good job Mick! I much prefer using outboard to plug ins because as you say it inspires and of course is more fun. I am surprised however at the lack of kill dry without a mod on the echorec. As others have said, I think the use of effects pedals as outboard could be a really interesting series to see what will and won’t work. EG the origin Effects or Empress compressors v a modelled plug in or what overdrives may work on vocals.
@bretonleo8740
@bretonleo8740 8 ай бұрын
I had an old BBD rack on my pedal board a few years back, the sound was so great but it had a noticeable high frequency noise and I stopped using it… until I bought my first wett box and noticed that with 100% wett the problem was gone, all the noise was in the dry sound. it never leaved my board after this ;) But tape is another beast and it’s hard to work around the hiss With a guitar amp ! Leo
@SeanWren-ph5ny
@SeanWren-ph5ny 8 ай бұрын
Mick, you should do more videos like this. loving the content.
@Telorchid
@Telorchid 8 ай бұрын
Sounded great, very tasteful. I’d be interested in hearing the mix higher on the Echorec on a similar track, not because of noise issues but just to hear the texture and mod a bit more prominently.
@letsallbe-friends1120
@letsallbe-friends1120 8 ай бұрын
Tasty guitar/ bass interplay there Mick! 😎👍 You should try driving into the space echo next time. Tape saturation! 🙌🙌 There's endless possibilities for creativity with even a basic recording setup.
@jongreen2198
@jongreen2198 8 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed watching this - well done sir!
@SomeKindOfMadman
@SomeKindOfMadman 8 ай бұрын
Cool upload, thanks for sharing your knowledge, we all appreciate it.
@jsack4
@jsack4 8 ай бұрын
Hi Mick! Awesome video! Seems a bit of an oversight not to have a simple kill dry available on the new echorec. I use an Echofix tape delay as outboard and it does have this feature. Having all the effects parallel to the dry signal keeps things organized and flowing. Looking forward to more pedals as outboard videos! Now you got me gassin for some Neve…
@basilandrigsby
@basilandrigsby 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don’t know why they didn’t do it. I’ve done the mod and put a switch on mine, but I shouldn’t have had to really.
@sandrews7760
@sandrews7760 8 ай бұрын
For the short time I had the trex binson. I felt the noise was bleed from the motor. I kept wishing that more time or money had been applied shielding or isolating the motor. No amount of giggling between record level and output level left me with a satisfying enough signal. I also tried running the unit after the stereo outputs of the ox box. It was better in a limited home studio environment. But not why I invested in the unit. So ends my adventure into unusual or historic effects.
@mattoakes6010
@mattoakes6010 8 ай бұрын
Love this! Great video - very insightful! Would watch more content like this from you
@kmac.
@kmac. 8 ай бұрын
Pedals make great outboard! Especially for us folks just playing around at home. I use my Echosystem a fair bit as an aux effect.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev 8 ай бұрын
Lovely track Mick! Would love to hear Guthrie noodling over that. I'm three years ahead of you and need to get the music out my head and recorded.
@jackperry2670
@jackperry2670 8 ай бұрын
How cool 😎 👏🏼 Sounds cooler as an outboard effect for drums than it does for for guitar IMO.
@tonyevans9999
@tonyevans9999 8 ай бұрын
hell of a tangent! I wonder if.............. that's studio life in a nutshell isn't it? I once used a tubescreamer as a mic pre (sort of) for a vocal "re amping". They aren't rules, they're guidelines
@ThatPedalShow
@ThatPedalShow 8 ай бұрын
Love this Tony!
@adtnj1234
@adtnj1234 8 ай бұрын
I hear a little Steely Dan in there. Nice!!
@MrIantodd
@MrIantodd 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic video, thank you for making it
@ScottfromBaltimore
@ScottfromBaltimore 8 ай бұрын
I'll often copy a track in audacity and apply computer effects to the copy, eg compression or reverb on a vocal, then balance and pan it against the original. I don't have the hardware to do outboard effects, but it would be fun. I've put modulation on a vocal mic before - it's wild.
@kelvinburn7743
@kelvinburn7743 8 ай бұрын
Mick "One Take" Taylor! Nice work and very informative.
@Auxend
@Auxend 8 ай бұрын
Love seeing you nerd out, Mick! I’ve been nerding out on reamping lately and wonder If the insert out on the pre needs to be converted back to guitar level. Thinking that the E rec out of the box is hi-z biased. Good results on the sends - you so need to do a dub track.
@Total_DaveB
@Total_DaveB 8 ай бұрын
JFDI is working quite nicely across the board!
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