The movie should clearly be called "Sand Mountain" until somebody comes up with a better name for this desert phenomenon...

Frank Herbert's: Sand Mountain.

Sand Mountain: Messiah does roll off the tongue lmao

Gold. Sand gold.

@@lolmao500 Ninja Nuns

and his character "Lanville" appeared in like 7 scenes throughout Part One, but all very easy to miss lol

That's real cool

Lmao

All in all, pretty great bday

4) Bang Lady Fenring played by *Lea Seydoux* . 😯

Got better deal than Paul🤣

@@thomashiggins9320 is it wrong that Death Stranding ignited something within me?

Wonderfully wise. That will stick with me as well.

True, but nowadays you can look up how to pronounce things online. I kinda judge ppl who do video essays but still dont look up words they dont know well.

This is my policy for people speaking different languages. Its always so annoying hearing people criticize someone's accent when speaking another language as if everyone should be able to speak every language with every accent flawlessly

​​@@mediumvillain I agree man, I really, reeeeeally dislike that KZfaqr shtick where they say names wrongly or say "I won't try to pronounce this cus I'll butcher the name", to try and seem quirky and funny, and I don't even hold it against legitimately people that present themselves as quirky and funny, but there are some more serious KZfaqrs that do this and doesn't seem to fit their video personalities. Tl;dr: just look it up how to pronounce it online lol

But feel free to ridicule any moron that can't spell. It means they didn't pay attention in school.

I'm still curious if this was one of the reasons for the casting

That still does not excuse the lack of cowbell.

​@@EndlessNameless5 - I feel like it was, and it's kinda groanworthy imo.

He even talks without rhythm.

I'd have to see it again, but I'm fairly sure the sound engineer literally added a roll of thunder under the voice audio for extra... extraness.

In Dolby Atmos, it really hit. When I saw it in IMAX, for some reason, that "Silence!" scene kinda hit, but not like in the Dolby Atmos auditorium.

I saw it in an enhanced sound theater and I swear to God it literally shook the seats 🤩🤩

The Fight for Sand Mountain: Part 2

​​​@@user-gn1cl9ix7pThe Fight for Sand Mountain Part 2: Static Electric Boogaloo

Let me try. I think it's... Rune, or something along those lines. Sand Mountain sounds good.

Silicaberg

lol yup. also don't trace all the pres. bloodlines.

I have read the book a long time ago and I don't remember that part. Can you tell us why ? Is it because of the waste ? Like you are so filthy we don't want your water maybe ? Thanks

Especially since that mf could be squished for gallons of water lmao

@@charlotteinfj4412 Correct. A person so hated they wouldn't even reclaim his water for cooling systems.

@charlotteinfj4412 basically, what erikd2628 said. In a culture where water is so precious that spitting in front of someone, or shedding tears over a corpse are signs of respect, letting a body rot in the desert is a gesture of disrespect

@@charlotteinfj4412 The importance of that also comes from what was done to Dr Kynes. In the book, Kynes is released in the desert by the Harkonnen with no suit and dies in a spice blow. Letting the Baron rot in the sun is vengeance for Chani's parent (something the movie completely left out)

George's comparison of The Rock and Bautista was apt.

​​@@BrahmaDBAarguably I think The Rock is casted to be the Rock and Bautista is casted to be a giant hulking behemoth with depth. He's got a very expressive face unlike The Rock who just looks like the Rock and overacts for comedic purposes. Comedy timing is one of the hardest things to do in acting, so I wouldn't shortsell it as a non-challenging role. However the range of emotion switching in Bautistas performance in this was impressive

The director gave an actor directions? I am impress, much genius.

There's another one where he said he told Denis that he didn't quite understand the character, and he said "he's a coward." And then everything clicked.

@@brooklynnewyork23 I like Bautista and I agree about the depth. He displays emotions so subtly you miss it sometimes but if you watch his eyes you can see it.

As written

Lisan al Gaib!

"On top"

@@killerlock666 Thanks, I fixed the spelling :)

And then how do they get off?

@@anathardayaldar they ride them to exhaustion. fremen measure long distances in terms of the number of worms they will have to ride to exhaustion to get there

He sounds a little like Papa Lazarou from the League of Gentlemen.

It was nice to see he finally got rid of his Elvis drawl.

Stellan was apparently well pleased with the choice, and spoke very highly of Butler's dedication to his craft.

@@mrfrosty3 You're my concubine now!

Guy who plays the nephew comes up with the idea to speak like guy who plays the uncle. Genius.

The message is important to repeat. This generation needs to hear it, as less and less people will see LOB as it fades into the past.

I nearly laughed out loud in the cinema. "I'm not the Messiah!" "He is the Messiah!" "OK so I am the Messiah!" "He is the Messiah!" To be fair, Life of Brian was made after the Dune. And it's funny because it's true.

And infrared light penetrates a bit deeper into tissue than visible light, so it adds that unearthly translucent look to skin.

@@RocketSurgn_ I was wondering why it has that odd look to it, like everyone's skin was made of silicone.

absolutely fantastic and a first. i love Nolan's movies, but Denis is quite the genius as well

I already know this is going to be the new "Viggo Mortensen broke his toe when he kicked the helmet"

@@Nitromax123 or "Kurt Russel destroyed a 145-year-old guitar on the set of Hateful Eight" :D

I also read that he wants to take some time before he films part 3. It gives him a chance to work on other projects and for the actors to age.

It isn't set in stone, he won't make it unless the screen play makes sense to him will likely take years to make.

And also he said he only wanted to do a trilogy anyway so I don't expect us to get any more movies from him in the Dune Universe.

He can take all the time he wants his films are poor adaptations its like he worked off an interns cliffnotes and not the book.

@@scorp77snakebruh wdym it’s a great adaptation into the visual medium

Futurama; Will we ever get a toon series written that good in America again?!

Fourteen million and sixty-five possibilities and only where we win.

Not only that, his courage isn't up to the task of doing what ultimately needs to be done, in this setting.

Its so generous of existence/fate to carve out the one possible path for him where he literally *must* be emperor of the known universe,or else..😂... not unlike any other narcissistic manipulator in history

Oh I suppose it was his narcissism that caused him to be born into that family in just that time as the gender he was. Being raised as he was, being manipulated strategically for the benefit of others. To be ensnared is a lot different than having low consequence choices. You do have a point that some talented people make bad choices and Frank was trying to tell us power attracts the corruptible.

Let's not forget that he lived in the Elvis voice so long that he actually needed help with a voice coach to STOP doing it even a year after he finished the film.

​@@dj_daem0n reminds me of something from South Park. There's an episide in season 3 where Cartman is doing a southern accent and Trey claims it ended up affecting Cartman's voice for the rest of the series.

@@almightycinder also reminds me of how Charlie Cox had trouble looking at people in the eyes after years of playing Daredevil and acting blind.

In a sense, by walking away from a charismatic leader, Chani passes a test far greater than the Gom Jabar, one that makes her the only true human in the movie.

To be fair, "truly understanding" is made a lot easier by the film since they changed a few things to really make it obvious.

Herbert thought it was clear in the first book, but people didn't get it, so he had to spell it out in 'Messiah'.

@@jerryward3311 And then he hammers it home in Children of Dune and God Emperor of Dune. Authoritarian leaders -- especially authoritarian theocrats -- create societies that lie well beyond mere "shit-shows" and exist in "nightmare-fuel" territory.

@@jlworrad Religious fervor and fanatism are exculisively human states of mind, her walking away from that actually makes sets her outside of humanity. Also all this bullshit about blind faith in charismatic leaders only works if the said leader is not a human super-computer with the collective knowledge of all of his ancestors bred for 90 generations to obtain the power to predict future. Not being blindly fanatic about him would be like seeing Jesus Christ raise someone from the dead and be like "yeah not impressed, I am a big brained nihilist and do not follow charismatic leaders".

The Ornithopters are supposed to be patterned off of Dragonflies.

Wouldn't it be red than?

@@Nava9380 It's more like oil when liquid, and likely not pure spice, just a mixture. Remember that he bathes in it after Oscar Isaacson hit him with the poison in part 1.

@Nulli_Di your right. There's no colours in Giedi Prime.

An on going Bacta tank, so to speak, is how someone made it in another movie series, lol!

It's not the spice. He would have eyes of ibad (blue eyes) and his consciousness would expand far more than it is.

Pretty much describes these characters to a tee in this film.

100 percent accurate! 🤣

Stilgar being the constant hype man was comical throughout the film but it's also sadly true heroes and leaders can get to a point where they can do no wrong in the eyes of their followers. That level of fanaticism is hard to defeat.

The Fremen are just being manipulated by the crysknife-industrial complex man.

I agree, it's just too bad her acting isn't better

@@markmaioli4I didn’t mind it, but I can certainly see why it didn’t work for some… the one that did make me chuckle a bit was Christopher Walken and his very distinct way of saying things! 😆

@@carlitosd.9699 yeah, Walken is a weird choice but thankfully he's not in it much

Perfect title, can't wait ! 😂

Children of Sand Mountain

@@BurritoFireo96 God Emperor of Sand Mountain

Interesting.

Yeah, it's something that's referenced in the first film when Paul and Jessica are making their way across the desert. I'm surprised that George didn't make reference to it, since he's read the books.

And it's TOTAL nonsense. Like Neil deDrasse Tyson said, even the thumpers can't physically work that way in the sand because the sand mutes soundwaves and vibrations, so mere pounding into the sand would achieve NOTHING! Also the weird walking is totally unnecessary.

@@JoergWeida you mean the giant sand creature the size of a blue whale that produces magical space dust you can use to see the future isn't real? 🤣

@@xylok_dnb2444 Everyone knows the best fantasy sci-fi stories are the ones who always strictly follow objective reality and physics! ACKCHUALLY, did you know there's no way they could ride these sand worms either? SO contrived! Takes me right out! I'd rather watch Dehydrated people march in lock step across an empty desert. And don't even get me started on spice being the key to space travel! How else am I supposed to be immersed if it isn't like everyday life?? Where are all the traffic jams and 9-5 jobs??? I'm with Sgt. Buzzkill on this one! lol Long live "nonsense".

IDK, like, I've read Rama, but Arrival is a top 10 film for me, everyone that watches is it is affected. It would be hard to beat.

@@rhysbevan429 have you read "Story of your life"? Because I feel like Arrival elevated it and sort of made its own thing out of it. And I imagine an adaptation of Rama could go some very interesting places with a similar apparoach.

I feel like Denis wasn't either sure the audience would get Frank Herbert's point or maybe thinking will this story continue? "Charismatic leaders are dangerous." That was one of Frank's points.

yes, and I hate that decision, not only because I never liked Zendeya as Chani in the first place, but also because is nothing like Chani in the books, and a tragic character like Paul needs the support of someone like the Chani of the books. The way Chani is in the movie is so out of place and so contemporary. Yep, is the only thing that really didn't like in the film, and I am far from being alone on this.

@@mahmudmurad4655 There have always been people who have questioned religious figures and who have been critical of their leaders. Otherwise there wouldn't be so many peasant/slave-rebellions and so many heretics to kill. What is really "contemporary" is pointing at something that has always existed and assuming it only exists now.

@@Painocus Not quite, and your point it doesnt change my mind on the poorly choice of Zendaya as our POV, I dont want her as POV at all. and his petty rebellion, is pathetic honestly.

@@mahmudmurad4655 How can an actor be a 'poor choice for a POV'? It sounds like you just have some nebulous personal beef with the actress. Also she is not the POV character, Paul is the main POV character if anything. "I dont want her as POV at all." If by that you mean you want literally nothing from her perspective, then honestly you shouldn't have watched a move where she plays Chani in the first place. Apparently it's not possible for people to grow discontent with their leaders without instantly, magically summoning up a full blown rebellion? (Except "contemporary" I guess.) Would you like the movie more if it ended with Chani completely changing the plot by staging a full rebellion against Paul? I doubt it, so why are you asking for it? The main reason for Chani's change is this; Herbert had already started writing Dune Messiah by the time he finished Dune. Meanwhile Villeneuve said he wanted to make is so Part One and Two could stand on there own if he never got to make Messiah. Chani in the film is meant to express a smaller version of the themes of Messiah if that film is never made, or to serve as a preamble to it if it is. Herbert compared the structure of Dune, Messiah and Children to a fugue. And if so Chani in the film serves as a "false entry" an incomplete introduction of a subject to anticipate it's true introduction later.

I always like a villain who can respect their enemy's abilities. The whole "credit where credit is due" mentality really shows how different he is from Rabban

Yeah it kinda surprised me how the emperor came off as just “a guy” and he really looked to her for wisdom. Also, Her costumes were my favorite part of the movie

@@EventHorizonMK In the book, the Emperor appeared younger than his years and radiated vitality. He was not the tired, world-weary character in the movie. Villeneuve enlarged Princess Irulan’s role (like he did for Chani). Book Irulan was a failed Bene Gesserit (not Reverend Mother Mohiam’s best student) who aspired to be a historian. The Emperor did not rely on her for advice. The director downplayed the patriarchal feudalism in the story. Of course there were strong female characters like the Bene Gesserit and Fremen women, but men held traditional leadership roles in the Dune universe. Another thing in the book: the Emperor actually admired Duke Leto. He didn’t think he was a weak man/weak leader. If he believed that, then he would not have eliminated the Atreides in the first place because they wouldn’t be a threat to his rule. He thought the Duke was worthy enough to marry his daughter if she had only been older. Book Leto was a strong and popular leader. This popularity made him the Emperor’s political enemy by necessity, no matter how much he liked the Duke as a person. Furthermore, in Part One, Mohiam and the Sisterhood wanted Paul to be saved and so she asked the Baron to spare him when the Harkonnens attacked Arrakeen. In Part Two, she tells Irulan that the Bene Gesserit were behind the elimination of the Atreides because they were defiant and couldn’t be controlled. Mohiam contradicted herself. If that’s how the Bene Gesserit truly felt about the Atreides bloodline, then why bother asking the Baron to spare Paul, the last member of the Atreides family? It would make sense that she would instead agree with the Harkonnen plan to kill Paul along with the rest of his family. Therefore, she had no need to visit Giedi Prime to plead for Paul and Jessica’s safety. It’s these particular changes by Villeneuve, making the Bene Gesserit completely amoral and changing the nature of some characters, that created contradictions in the storyline and potential confusion about characters’ motives.

@@SunsetRogue thanks for the info. I’m not a book reader so all that gives me more to think about. Regarding the emperor, I can understand increasing Irulans role but it really struck me how this man who is at least at surface level, politically inexpert,is the emperor of the entire universe (still a mind blowing concept to me). Also, at the start Irulan says the Emperor loved Leto like a son, however at the end he obviously calls him a weak man. Why did he say that? The heat of the moment because his position was being challenged?

@@SunsetRogue Yes. And the book specifically says that the emperor did not want the duke to be killed - only discredited and politically and militarily weakened. He considered it uncivilized for nobles to be killed by other houses, not to mention setting a bad precedent. The emperor even tried to have his daughter assassinated as punishment for some slight or other. That's just the way they do things. He knew of course, that in all probability, the assassination attempt would fail, due to her Bene Gesserit training and her personal guards, but that's the way noble families send messages among themselves in the imperium.

@@EventHorizonMK The emperor was probably born into his position. He wasn’t there by merit.

And the POV shot made my jaw drop

Also in the part where he uses the voice at the end to say "Silence!" you could feel the floor vibrating.

Problem is that now they are doing Messiah, her character changes create big problems for continuity with the source material in Messiah.

@@lucasrizor3251 Absolutely, but I have faith in the writers and director tbh. They really made her character changes work in this movie, so I'm sure they can do it again. I hope so anyway.

i have no problems with changing Chani but Zendaya had stink face in every scene and an American accent which completely screwed her character 😢

unfortunately seeing a lot of reactors also not getting it.

⁠@@lucasrizor3251not necessarily, Paul himself says in this movie that ‘she’ll come back” or something like that… it just gives her character more agency, vs the simpler ‘ride or die’ character she was in the books. Her choosing to come back would be much more interesting in my opinion.

Gotta use that first one for the galaxy sword unlock though... lol

are they playing stardew valley somewhere?? i was so shocked to hear that lol

@@jimmiejam508 Not that I know of but that would be cool to have their commentary on a playthrough

​@@maestro92and the second one for the museum, the third one for the missing bundle (if running the CC route), and the others for enchantments. you'll never get enough of the shard

@@maestro92 Of course. Unlock the galaxy sword and then curse the fact that you can't put them in a crystalarium. 😅

They were both in part 1 ya dunce

​@sliceofgames8558 Yeah, I forgot my bad.

Me to. I've read the book (twice but a long time ago) but I still needed two viewings to let it all sink in.

There was barely a battle at the end, it was like 5 minutes, it was so disappointing.

The BBC nature series Africa did a long term recording of the sound made by the Sahara dunes. It's eerie.

@@zoesumra9152 Very eerie. Doesn't sound real even when you're there.

life of brian may well have been influenced by dune

The way it was shot makes you think it’s a reference to Life of Brian, yes. But it’s literally how religions work. That’s the point.

I have that book. It's a good one. The emperor doesn't lose in the end of it, though.

@Nulli_Di Fully authoritarian, with no room for dissent, so the sameness of everyone, male and female, being bald is fitting. Much like Camazotz in A Wrinkle In Time.

Oh, wait... her personal box is kinda wooden too... 👌😁

"He had TWO eggs, exactly like the Mahdi!"

@@jaredragland4707 "Only the Mahdi would deny The Prophecy of the Two Eggs."

I mean a lot of changes made sense but I wouldn’t say they were better than in the books, for exemple I don’t agree with not including a bigger time jump where Paul already has a newborn son that gets killed in the invasion.

​@@user-gd8xl8oj2zThe zero time jump means they didn't have to go to the effort of finding a child actor who can behave old enough for Alia.

It’s also why Chani is pouty in the end. In the book Jessica is her friend and she is fully prepared to be Paul’s concubine. Because they rushed the time among the fremen, chani couldn’t develop the way she did in the books. It’s a little sad, since it will either be immediately undone or be forced to part wildly from Messiah.

Probably didn't want a talking baby. Looked silly in the 1984's version. Different in books than on screen. Having a foetus speak telepathically is more "accessible", in a weird way. That's my guess to why they did this anyway. Maybe it's something else.

@@TheGavraelI don’t think that’s why chani is like she is. I think it’s because they wanted a character that points out the artificial nature of the prophecy and is skeptical of the whole thing.

​@@vhufeosqapthis reason as well. Chani understands tactics enough that she will be able to understand politics given enough time.

That is not the main reason at all. It was pure girl boss reason.

The BG know (they are the ones who took the Baron's seed), they just kept it from Jessica and the Baron. The long heritage of both sides is very important to their plan to create a Kwizatch Haderach. Jessica learns it through the Water, just like Paul does, and the Baron when he meets Alia (or Paul in this case).

I always thought that the Kwisatz Haderach coming a generation early is part of why Paul was flawed as a character. He was very close to being the 'chosen one' but not 100%.

Yes. Paul was supposed to be a girl, in which case the plan was for her to marry Fay Rautha, who is approximately the same age, uniting the two bloodlines.

Bene Gesserit knew it all.

@@LordVolkov - If I remember correctly from the novel wasn't the Reverend Mother Gaius Helen Mohiam ordered by the BG to have relations with the Baron (which ended badly as Mohiam avenged her abuse from the Baron by infecting him with his disease) in order to give birth to Lady Jessica.

​@SorcerSundryFrank didn't reveal how he pronounced the names till a ways after, and when he did he said he was fine with everyone pronouncing them how they wanted. Half of the readers have been pronouncing it the way the movie did for years--and it sounds better.

“Chah-Nee” seems to me the best pronunciation. She is Fremen and the Fremen were heavily inspired by Arabic culture and language. It makes sense that it’s not a long “a” sound and that it matches the vowel pronunciation of “a” in words like Sayyadina, Sihaya, and Stilgar.

Written as it is, and given the Arabian vibes of the Fremen culture, I think the French pronounciation wouldn't be far off. The English one, on the other hand...

The pronunciation of Chani is also how you would pronounce it in Spanish. And maybe all or most romance languages I am guessing.

Chani is a very common Hebrew nickname for Hannah, so I've always read the name as starting with IPA /x/, rhymes with Bonnie.

Is it weird that it looks really really comfy? Like a slightly treacly hot tub.

@@agp11001 lol. I don't know it looks too oily to me. Like bathing in barrels of crude.

I’d love to know where the idea came from. I’ve always had silly daydreams about a miracle cure for all illnesses and injuries, and the way it would work was always a sludge bath - that’s how the healing substances reach every part of the body. Just makes sense to me.

@@mm9773 Can't remember if that sludge bit is in the books (don't think so), but one similar thing in pop culture that comes to mind is the Lazarus Pit R'as Al Ghul uses...

The SciFi Channel miniseries pronounced it CHAY-nee (hard ch)

sietche is said with almost two syllables in the audiobooks, same with Atriedes. In this movie when they would say the name of the sietch it sounded like they were saying tabL and that’s very different from tabUr in the books etc.

I've watched the 1984 Dune, which pronounces her name CHAH-nee, and so that's how I said it in my mind as I read the books. Preparing for Dune 1, I listened to the audiobook and winced whenever I heard CHAY-nee. It would've been okay, except that all I could think about was Dick Cheney, the US Vice President during George W Bush's terms. He was a really awful guy.

@@mtascp05 oh no haha, I hadn’t even thought he of Dick Cheney

@@DataCab1e ah, i misremembered then. Thanks for the correction!

the pacing is a bit weird ye. i find zendayas performance the weakest to be honest. not much going on there. batista has a limited role, but that's more the character i think. the visuals are rediculously good though:-))

Personally idc about the shortening of time since I’m the book we skip over soooo much stuff so cutting that big time skip out and making all the scenes flow felt better

@@ConClasher3I think internally the pacing works well in the film, but his acceptance among the Fremen and rise with the Fedaykin would make far more sense over a longer time span than the few months it’s given. I personally think it was the right choice to make that trade off though, avoiding having to try pulling off the absolute miracle it would’ve taken for general audiences to at all accept “wizened stabby toddler” in a film with this serious of a tone. It works a lot better being able to focus on the already weird enough for non readers suspension of disbelief for what they went with.

Chani is passive? I guess she is just a fierce warrior, knife demon and a Bene Gesserit in training, you know, just passive🙄

They also could have used the spice change to explain away why Jessica's pregnancy was extended - a necessity to allow the baby to adapt better.

They've built a lot of really huge and impressive setpieces for this movie.

With the way he behaves i'm not sure which outcome would have the least deaths in the near future versus total deaths over the next 10,000 years - maybe he'd get murder hungry and want to massacre every single House. If sadistic Harkonnen peeps were in charge for the next 10k years perhaps the Empire would even collapse entirely, who knows.

It's a good metaphor for people in this day and age who are so miserable with their life, that they vote just to shake the system up, unconcerned if that change is good or bad--"Some people just want to see the world burn." And I doubt it would have been that much better with Feyd as emperor. We know for a fact the Emperor was dangerous but interested in stability and maintaining the status quo, something neither Paul nor Feyd were interested in, for different reasons.

Nope, that's the sad part and Paul knows it. By taking the position of the fremen's messiah he already set in motion the holy war. If he died it would be as a martyr and the war would go on without him. It was going to happen no matter what.

The best sequence of the whole movie.

It was meh.

Because if they see it in theaters they can’t react to it and make money

I have my doubts about how genuine "reaction" videos are.

He has his adaptation of Arthur C. Clarke's Rendezvous with Rama lined up, so that might be coming next.

Nah they decent books

@@shaggjones4854 They are absolutely awful. Chapters that fly by in 7 pages. And a string of short. Simple sentences. That lack any complextity of thought. Does not a book make. Though if we're honest, Goid Emperor and onward aren't exactly easy reads.