I hope t go all the way through Chapterhouse. REALLY delve into the Bene Gesserit.

Id like stuff about most major characters but i think Princess Irulan is an interesting character. Also stuff about the major shadow factions like benne tleilax, bene gesserit, fishspeakers, guild. Big love that youre picking Dune up again!

@LegionReQuiem love the suggestions and glad you enjoy the Dune content, more to come!

I'm just fascinated that anyone watched the entire dune movie. I'm about an hour in and it is one of the worst films I've ever seen. There is no actual plot or point just a bunch of people talking about nothing at incredibly low volumes while awful (intended to be suspenseful?) music blares over everything so you can't hear the boring, cliche, and predictable dialogue.

@@LegionReQuiem agreed would love to know more about the princess and her father. I love her passages before each chapter.

Here here 🎉

maybe read the books then

Bro same- now thinking "They better make a whole series out of this universe"

@@AllTheArtsyI will but watching videos is fun too

I watched it almost a week ago and I haven't stopped thinking about it since! I rewatched Dune Part 1 and have also started reading the book!

???? What??

What?

Paul was one generation early. Lady Jessica was supposed to bear a daughter for her husband the Duke. Bene Geserit could magically choose the sex of their children at conception. That child's progeny was supposed to be the Kwisatz Haderach. But, yes, Paul was the next best thing. He was the result of the Bene Geserit breeding program and a massive overdose of Spice. Duncan Idaho, or his Ghoula clones at least, had to die countless times at the hands of God Emperor Leto over his reign, until his genetic memories unlocked the potential of the Kwisatz Haderach. Maybe I'm misremembering, but wasn't Miles Teeg awakened to Kwisatz Haderach status through an extended period of torture? I thought he was the one who merged with the machine empire to become the new Omnius? Maybe he was there and provided the distraction for Duncan Idaho³⁸⁰³ to accomplish it.

Duncan Idaho s story is a mindfuck

@@priestsonaplane2236af

I think that’s the perfect amount of information to know and not know

Kinda same here, how disturbing is the worm thing though? I wonder if they will adapt that

He's not an evil worm, he's tyrannical but it's for the survival of humanity, he sacrifices his human form and life so he can rule and guide mankind for thousands of years. It's the only way to stave off extinction

@@leninswalrus Pretty sure that’s what every tyrant ever says, but ok.

@@christopherjustice6411 or you could like, read the books and decide for yourself

lol, you and me both, Spicy…❤

Great idea!

I'm with you. 😂 Weeeeeee!

I just ate a whole bag of Trader Joe's peanut butter pretzels. I'm ready to take a crap.

It’s not that detailed, a lot more lore to the jihad war. He basically spent 3 minute on 50 + hours of books, and lore.

Duncan Idaho is really a tragic character. He is cloned hundreds of times over thousands of years and retains access to all of his shared memories.

Technically a Fremen kid from around the time of the end of the Butlairian Jihad had the first precient vision and set all the events in motion saved the universe. He chose a future where the Fremen lived and everything that happened after that was preordained.

Like Star Wars - you could make interesting movies at literally any time period bc the universe is interesting and unique.

@@swimmingmide WAIT, WHAT? Why have I never heard of that and why is it not in this video?

@@P3truts It's in one of the books, Messia I think. The son's prequel books expand on the idea and flesh it out a lot. Basically the people who take Paul after he loses his eye site have a prophecy from before or shortly after the Butlerian Jihad.

Not to mention the God Emperor, future sight, and his golden path. Almost makes me think him getting crippled by Horus was all according to plan.

40k also has a similar dark age of technology where ai is banned

Craziest part is this book was written in the 70’s

Appreciate it, glad you enjoyed

I can confirm Gaara is doing some pretty heavy breathing

I can confirm Gaara is doing some pretty heavy breathing

If they adapt the other books Jason Momoa will always have a job 😂

@@nicolettetallmadge3254 his grandchildren will have jobs lol takes (2) movies just to capture 3 years worth of events.

Its the Swampman though experiment again!

Yeah, he summed it up fairly well. Spice prolongs life, grants immunity to most known diseases, and generally improves health. It can also awaken prescience, or future sight, in those with the inborn talent. However, should you ever be deprived of it for any extended period of time, you’ll die from withdrawals within hours. It’s a poisoned gift; valuable for all that it can do, but should a world ever miss a shipment, millions would suffer.

Appreciate it, so glad you enjoyed!

Of course, glad you enjoyed! The new films are spectacular

@@TheLorebrarians agreed!! Watching Dune part one again with my newly learned lingo as we speak!

The audiobook of Dune is awesome; it gives you the full wondrous complexity of Herbert's universe; he was truly a genius.

I highly recommend you find time and read the books. Especially the first 2. You will not regret it.

You could listen to the audio books too.

So glad you enjoyed! And that is a great addition

Just like Pron!

Terminator movies bro, sounds just like it. I kind of get the feeling this was the inspiration for those movies.

I think that’s humanities inevitable future. First it will be to help the disabled. Then it will expand to elective surgeries to better eyesight or increase strength. Last step is getting consciousness into machines.

lol....DUH!!...I mean he is the Kink of Atlantis too.

Aquaman does not strike fear into anyone. Just turn on a heat lamp and he dries right out.

@@jasonhesseltine3520 lol..I know...I was being sarcastic.

Duncan Idaho will live again. And agin. And again. And again. So on and so forth.

Hope it did not disappoint!

@@TheLorebrarians Ha! Doubt that will ever be the case.

Thanks, appreciate it!

you will have a great time reading dune. hf!

You'll LOVE it ‼️😁💖

Be prepared cs after the first two books it gets kinda weird and hard to understand

My thoughts exactly!

😂

Lots of mushrooms is a good substitute for powers ig😂

Or it brought your deep secrets to the light and you couldn't come clean.... or what you said... one or the other.

@@playbookshowme484 Nonsensical response.

that where your wrong Herbert planned one Book but ended making the first trilogy instead of condensing it into one book, so he always planed to at less have a trilogy but was ready to make it one book if publisher where against it, he then while making the two first sequel also started written part of the second trilogy, so no he knew when to stop and that was 6 Books. He's son later on expending the universe.

Or you could listen to an audiobook and experience the full wonder and depth of Herbert's complex, astounding universe 💁

You are weak and will be the first to taste the wrath of the Jihad 😂

@@honorsilverthorne7227I know it’s a pretty goofy statement to say that watching the video is the same as reading the books

Hey, the wiki says so so it has to be true and is to be taken completely literally.

@@TheSelinux I don't care what the wiki says I'm basing my statement on my familiarity with the writer's own commentary about his work, and knowledge of where this specific Lore info comes from, namely the Dune Encyclopedia which was deliberately written as a reference work IN-UNIVERSE. Meaning that the version of human history presented in it is the official version understood in-universe, but it is not necessarily an accurate or detailed version of history.

Heres hoping a civilization can survive for a million years without killing itself

Appreciate it! Unfortunately I don't, but another great Sci fi classic

Appreciate it, glad you enjoyed!

what is the timestamp where Dune Par Two (movie) ends? I'd like to know about only the history. What has already happened not what is going to happen

Appreciate it! Tried to keep a good pace while also covering such an expansive timeline

Dune 2 the movie was epic. Saw it on bootleg. Soooo good, but definitely not as good as the book but definitely worth the watch dune 1 was my favorite movie for the past years I’ve watched it like 7 times the second I just watched yesterday and they’re making dune 3 messiah. I hope they make a game

It's great. Just saw it this evening. Scenes on Giedi Prime are outstanding. Must be seen at the cinema.

@@Hungry4Herb they are making an MMORPG. Google Dune Awakening.

Dune Awakening is in development, but it's multiplayer focused 😢

@@Hungry4Herbi'm very excited to watch, i heard many people said that movie is nasterpiece and better than Dune 1 which i very like, also you can try Mad Max, Rage 1 and 2, Destiny 2, these games are recommended if you like Dune

Much best to leave it as ambiguous history as intended. Brian Herbert’s entries are woeful.

issac asimov robot series is kinda similar i guess

Coincidence? I think not...

In real internet world, Omnious controls your Pres. All makes sense now right?

Leto II was riding on his father’s glory that’s for sure

@wadhwa6 hmmmmmm have you read the books??? That's not even close to what I meant

We want to see human worm. Shush Jabba.

Hate to break it to you, but you're just in the Everminds fake world and Erasmus is just running a few tests.

They all had blue hair, remember. All they did was take away their tofu.

Frank Herbert in the original six novels never goes into too much detail about what exactly lead to the Butlerian Jihad, but he makes it pretty clear it' wasn't a Humanity VS Machines scenario à la Terminator or Matrix. *“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”* _(Dune)_ *“What do such machines really do? They increase the number of things we can do without thinking. Things we do without thinking-there’s the real danger.”* _(God Emperor of Dune)_

yeah overall it is kinda accepted it was a more sociopolitical thing, even with what his son wrote, no terminators or matrix, more like the early second renaissance in animatrix, more political, riots, uprising, shift in society. if you want crazy AI battle it is more W40K, whte the men of iron got( probably) corrupted by chaos

Brian Herbert garbage.

machines in this series are like guns in america, explanation:- "its not the gun that kills its people who do"-average american. "its not machines that kills people its people with machines who kill people" - writer of this series

I would say it’s less about the threat machines *in and in itself* actually posed, and more that they were deemed as an irreconcilable element upon no other reaction but a complete war of extermination became to “go-to” answer. It’s a testimonial to the theme of the Empire getting itself into these quagmires due to the mindless adherence to their self absorbed ideology. Of course that by then shit was pretty much irreversible, but imagine if, for once, it had interpreted technology as something to be understood, respected, instead of something to be explored as one does a commodity. But that’s not how to empire thinks. They see a resource and extract it according to what immediate use they can put it into. Like, you know, a fitting analogy to illustrate the atitude they have regarding *that other thing*. Talk about “history repeating itself”, the empire clearly grasps very little regarding the full scope Melange and it’s potential - well, the Bene Gesserit non included, of course - and once again lies depending upon something that their own society relies on. Erroneously, they assume it to be dependency on Arrakis, instead it’s dependency on Melange itself. To break said dependence would require a complete overhaul of the whole civilizational modus operandi. That’s not how things normally go… I mean, the squashed “thinking machines” and that shit was gone, they were incapable of replicating it and improving. It’s a testament to how the main antagonistic force to a set civilization forms precisely within the gaps said civilization inadvertently created for itself - And well… The Muad’dib is as the Butlerians before him, except he *fucked shit* hard… But in all seriousness, how interesting is that! What’s best, the novel doesn’t present as a one note subject. As Herbert put it “we all inherited our ancestors violence”. In the end of the day, there’s little we get to do about it… but to try and understand it. Isn’t it wild how dude’s got fascinated with the topology of the Arizona desert to the point that inspired him into writing a novel, and next thing you know that’s what it comes out? Never feel shame over your niche interests guys, let it inspire you!

Ah... he's reading the glossary and almost finished

You lose some of the internal monologues of characters, particularly Paul with just the movies. Some of the philosophical pondering on the apparent inevitability of the jihad is important imo. I also think messiah and children are some of the best novels in the series, so ultimately it is up to you. The biggest thing is to read Dune and Messiah as one long novel, otherwise the total message is kinda lost in the sauce/

Its spelt snobby actually

@@dinote6472 You know, I was actually debating whether or not that was the case when I wrote it. Serves me right for being lazy :p

Listen to the audiobook of Dune; then you'll REALLY be an expert.

they considered that enslavement

Ya dune good.

then don't watch it. If a continuation movie comes, it won't be made until 2030. Chance is high that it will never be done. The SyFy series already did what is supposed to come next, and even covered more than what the movies covered, except with much less budget. Even if the 2030 movie becomes a thing, that may cover the second book at most, and there are 6 of the original without including dozens written by his son which will probably never be made into epic movies, its just too long.

Aquaman, you must be new to twists.