Genial juego chicos, congrats!

Thanks! Appreciate it. :)

And the rules regarding the LOS seemed a little confused to me. This is all I can recall right away)

Yeah. It’s good. Looking forward to it’s future.

Thanks! Sounds like it’s a perfect game for you.

KB Toys was great. Loved their discontinued bins.

Yah, they were great. I was always boggled at all the stuff and so much i couldnt afford to get. I wish i had spent more time looking into the games area. We didnt have any decent gaming shop in my city. Im not sure why it was so podunk where gaming was concerned. We did have one of the locally owned old hobby shop where he carried one little shelf section where there was war games and GURPS stuff and some other things. If we would have had a good gaming shop in the 80s me and my friends would have really been into the rpgs and stuff way earlier.

Sounds right up your alley.

Yeah - it's not a DC for all. Definitely targeting a certain demographic.

I didn’t make you. I just presented an informed opinion. :) hope you enjoy it.

You will have many great adventures with this.

Thanks! Appreciate it.

Productive! :)

Sure thing. Thanks!

Glad I could help

Nothing prevents you from using the skull minis or tiles, to create your own campaign with DUN system, quite the contrary. Regarding the mansions and other environments, I'm sure that Oscar and his team are already thinking about that, a scifi environment is not discarded and according to Oscar himself when he finishes developing the current thing he might get into it.

@@jerik0435 That's really interesting - thanks! The more I think about it, the more I'm inclined to have some system (whether DU or home-brewed) that allows for such a universal system. I'm even thinking of making a simple ruleset myself which basically distills typical stats (strength-dexterity-intelligence), locations (halls, rooms of interest, objective room), items (melee/ranged weapon, protection, healing), events (good/bad) and objectives (find an object, rescue someone, kill all, etc.) from which an adventure could be written. Of course, I'd have to also create a 'translation' system that maps all these aspects (especially the characters) from other games to this universal system. And theme? Well, I'm thinking of 5 'arch'-genres from which you could brew any genre you like: fantasy, sci-fi, horror, modern-day, and discovery-age. Steampunk would be an amalgam of sci-fi and discovery-age, so characters from Machina Arcana would blend steampunk and horror together. Tainted Grail characters would be a simple fantasy/horror translation. Nemesis, sci-fi/horror. Warhammer 40K, sci-fi/fantasy. The list goes on and on... A single adventure could take place in any of these 5 arch-genre-related worlds, while a campaign would stitch all 5 together. The main "villain" could be picked from any one of them or always be a horror-related one. That would be my system and I would call it *5 Worlds* as everything would be 5-fold: the themes, 4 characters and a villain, 5D6 to roll for everything, etc. Hmmm...I got ideas...

@@arcubal believe me when I tell you that I've used many variations of Warhammerquest and Adv. Heroquest to avoid those bottlenecks, those problems I've seen in other games, when I got my DUN, all those "patches" went to waste, this system is round, perfect for you to use any medieval fantasy environment you can imagine, there are people who have already transformed the map of "the war of the ring" and are playing their adventures in the middle earth with DUN system, That's what's really great about DUN, that there's no end, it's full of possibilities, My friends and I are enjoying a second youth of dungeons thanks to DUN, since it's everything you wanted to have in a board game and we've thought a thousand times about it. sry, mi english.. ;)

Amazon. Just search for wooden playing card holders.

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Thank you.

That reminiscence brought me back to a small hole-in-the-wall game & model shop I would occasionally frequent with a buddy back in the mid-90s. Dark, dank, and two long aisles with some middle-aged gray-hair behind the counter. Chock full of obscure tabletop games from the past, some previously owned. Stacked high. Raided that place whenever I could afford to, but they closed shop a couple years later.

@@NefariousKoel Most likely, that gray-haired man in the store would smile as soon as you left, his laugh would turn into a great laugh, with one swipe of the staff ended the illusion that the place was open.., and with another blow transported by the plans to their place of origin. XDD

@@jerik0435 :D

@@NefariousKoel There were two stores in my past like that - Arthur's Toys, and The Game Preserve. I remember both of them fondly.

It sounds like something you will really appreciate. Sounds like you know what you’re getting into. :)

Thanks, Daniel! I love games like this that allow us to tinker and put on our designer caps. :)

Absolutely!

@@baysidejr it's very good. A nice balance between simplicity and keeping the game engaging. It still has a lot of depth in the skills and artifacts.

Glad to hear it!

Do not forget that there modern crawlers that offer enemy variety through their mechanics. Take Galaxy Defenders for example. Less than 10 monsters in the whole base campaigns and I would bet that all of them are so more unique in their behaviour than all monsters in DUN.

No. Nowhere near Skull tales with issues. ST is, IMO, totally unplayable out of the box. DUN is totally playable out of the box. Just needs some investment from the players to get the most out of it. And yes, the enemies take some time to get set up, because they will often use skills and gear from the same pool as the heroes. So it can slow things down. Like I said, I think this is a slow-paced game, best played over a period of time. For me, it's about the same as high level SOB play, a game that can also get bogged down, but I like the moment to moment combat in DUN a lot more.

@@TheDungeonDive No denying SOB gets bogged down with everyone standing in place trying to hit the monsters at times. I am curious to see how they redo the room exploration counters for the next iteration.

There's so many rules to remember that I would never be able to do a decent play of this on camera, without a ton of editing and corrections. It's a tough game to remember everything when playing solo. When I play, I actually play with a kind of stripped down version of the rules. I did a play with the developers online, and it's posted to Ludic Dragon's YT channel.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.

Me too. Well, second printing is already here 😁

My pleasure!

They will, after the new KS has delivered to the backers.

Im sure you could find some profile to use them with.

A little bit of both, but with a focus on stat increases. The potions add quite a bit of tactical decision making. I'd say most of the gear is really about honing your stats for a particular build, with the skills being focused on changing up the game play.

I am a very critical reviewer. And I think this game is very good. Almost great. As I said multiple times. And you don’t need to tell me about something being old school. Lol.

When I get some stuff to look at, yes!

It is a legitimate concern.

Spanish and English aren't that different, imagine if the game was developed in Chinese.

They will be posting some of the session to their channel.

You missed out!

Thanks. DUN offers up more of a tool box of gaming than any of those other games you mentioned. While it has its own written campaigns, it’s also a collection of pieces and rules for you to make your own adventures.

@@TheDungeonDive Thanks for the details. I think now it depends whether I can afford it or not.

Personally, I think the Rules are fine.

Creating characters is really fun!

This does a lot of good.

Ludic Dragon will be posting some of our play through on their channel.

@@TheDungeonDive Thanks for the quick reply. Keep up the great videos.

@@TheDungeonDive kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9qTn5iqqr21iI0.html

I have not taken a look at it at all, so I know next to nothing about it. Sorry.

D6: Dungeons, Dudes, Dames, Dice, Danger and Dragons, or something like that.

I like the bell curve of 2D6. Is double D6 more or less swingy?

@@TheDungeonDive It generates more radical rolls, flattens the curve. So many ways to alter rolls.

Stay tuned for a Folkore video. I like the game, but only with a ton of house rules. I will only play with 2 heroes, and the game is straight up broken with less than 4. I’m also not a big fan of the D100 combat system it uses.

@@TheDungeonDive same here I play with two heroes also, very curious about your houserules, mine are having a maximum of 3 bandages and be able to go back to the village between skirmishes to get stuff

I'll post a link to my house rules when I do the video!

@@TheDungeonDive thanks Daniel.

I think it's great! Backed for the upgrade kit and the new campaign. Can't wait for the simplified basic rules.

I'm not sure if there is a late pledge. Probably best to check their KS page, or contact them via FB.

I will definitely be playing a campaign with friends when we can start getting together again.

I guess you already know, the 2nd KS has already started

The rule book / translation issues and the fact that you have to build out the enemies for each encounter. Hopefully all of these are addressed in the reprint.

It seems that the ball is very big but it is not, the whole system is based on 2d6 rolled against a difficulty "10" "9" and so, then you apply modifiers +1/-1 +2/-2 there is not much more, the only thing you have to be thinking is to remember to apply them, even after the second or third game you know them by heart and do not consult the manual, all the modifiers have an overwhelming logic so they are easy to remember.

@@jerik0435 Thanks for the reply! I'll keep this in mind.

@@torq21 Second printing, now on Kickstarter, includes a simplified mode "DUN Basic". The rules are about 30 pages long, and it is intended for a more casual group of players. I think It will solve the "complexity issue", so maybe the game could be for you and your group after all ;).

@@erebusdaniel616 NICE! I will be checking it out. It would will be great when there are some more overviews and reviews available. Thanks for sharing.

D100 Dungeon plus expansions

Oh yeah. When it is released. I don’t typically read rule books until I have the game in hand, and I’m wait for the new stuff for DUN.

@@TheDungeonDive Understandable. Can’t wait! Your content is amazing :) Cheers

Totally co-op if you want.

I've only played one-off dungeons, but plan on playing the campaign(s) in the future. I'm sure they're great for solo.

I think DUN is a better game, in that it actually has a future, and the designers haven't abandoned it. Lot's of exciting things coming. It's more expansive and detailed. Once Ludic Dragon gets the random quest generation app done, it will be really great.

@@TheDungeonDive Thanks, dude. I now own both, and was thinking of using the DUN game system with the DLMM campaign.

Yeah. You could totally do that. That’s one of the great things about DUN.

Still a great game but I don’t get to play it much because of its complexity and because it is a narrative campaign. I wish it had an official card-based random quest mode.

Thanks. I know they’ve done some work but can’t say what.

The Dungeon Dive thanks. I’ll be buying it anyway as it looks amazing. I loved your comments about old games. I’m a massive fan of Descent 1st Ed and Magic Realm so this should be right up my street.

Oh yeah! You'll feel right at home. :)

Perfect!

I've never played MR, but from what I've read and heard, I could entertain the argument that DUN is the Magic Realm of dungeon crawls.

Oh yeah. Can't wait for that.

Yeah I backed it back in the 1790's.

Earl of Doncaster hahah! For reals.

How does DUN compare to Dungeon Crusade ? What are the main differences?

Can you please name the video please, where Daniel described the card house rule. I found an article about the topic lately on reddit: "Cool new research on consequences of different randomization mechanics". May be it is for you as well.

2D6 is a lot less swingy than 1D6 so I wasn’t bothered by the randomness here. I also feel like there are already a lot of tactical decisions for the players to make here.

@@randothomas3733 The video is called "Talisman - Casual Let’s Play - Introduction". Daniel used cards to replace the movement dice roll in Talisman so there are a lot more tactical choices on where to go on the board.

You would have to create a deck that has a similar distribution as 2D6.

Solo AI is good. Does what I want - keeps me on my toes and surprised. It's easier to run than KDM solo, but harder than a lot of games. It is time consuming; it is a slower-paced game. Enemy behavior is good, and it can be better if you're willing to improvise on the spot.

Also how long is setup roughly and time per scenario so far?

@@funk1boy Pretty long, with a bit of downtime during.

@@TheDungeonDive KDM is a game in which complexity is the gameplay, and the reward is another year of settlement without losing. Therefore, it is definitely the most difficult game in the world, but not the most difficult in the rules. But she is beautiful. DUN on the contrary, the complexity is "scattered" in level and is not a gameplay-generating. And the gameplay is the right approach to situations with certain characters and a set of items.

Not sure what you mean?

@@TheDungeonDive I was waiting for a review, and then im getting into your description, and i thought, 'Wait a second ! I feel like im being DM'd into a FLGS !' You sucked me in without me even noticing. Wondering if its worth spending the $200CAD on the Kickstarter today.

Ah! Got it. :) Thanks. I think it's worth the price. So much game in the box, with the possibility to expand for years to come.

This is the closes to an RPG I’ve ever seen in a board game. It can easily be played as an RPG. Have you tried Dungeon Degenerates?

The closest in my opinion is Descent 1st edition (with its expansions) and the Road to Legend campaign. If you have done that you have the pinnacle of RPG Board Game to date. It falls down too, and that is in the balance arena. We have done 2 1/2 campaigns of that and it was amazing, except for the fact that the heroes really do not stand a chance with a Overlord that has their heart set on winning (plus heroes CANT die, thats a Descent thing, they just keep getting killed over and over and over...not fun). Some comments in this video did make it sound like balance is an issue here also. My overlord will not play any game as a story telling game master, she is in to win. If the balance is around how random things can be, thats ok as its constantly swinging back and forth. If there is a path to collect DP cards and then slam them all in a turn to almost guarantee a win/tpk, I have wasted a lot of money on this. Case in point, in Descent 1st RTL, ranged attacks by monsters rule. The ability for the OL to spawn whatever they like, plus spending their points on only upgrading those ranged creatures, and slimming the OL deck to drive ranged spawns will see hero death over and over and over. About 1/2 into our first campaign my OL figured out this path, and its now always followed. The hero strat is run in, limit your deaths. grab treasure and run out, its the only way to keep up, and its not very fun, thematic or very dungeon crawl like. If heroes play Descent like you would play Heroquest, heroes cannot win. After reading DUNs rulebook, all those points I just made above are addressed. (only 1/2 of spawn can be shooters, no move shoot move, each quest has a different focused faction, forcing monster variety, each quest balanced by points, lots of penalties to shooting if not a perfect shot). BUT, since the monster spawn cards are drawn from their own deck, I know my OL will forget the "other" cards and just draw her all spawns asap, horde them and at the right time play them all/one after another, trying to get a TPK every time. I fear our only hope will be to pray she shuffled in only the weak value point spawns.........we shall see when I finally get mine.

The phrase Dungeon Crawler gets thrown around a lot. If you randomly played 1000 dungeon crawler games that came out during the past 40 years; the extent of gameplay and narrative is that you go to one room and fight a unicorn and 3x rats. Go the the next room and fight 5burglars and a orc. And maybe a paragraph to read before you start and after you finish. Then you do it all again. It's meant to be short, random, no deep strategy. I think that's the reason why BGG liked Gloomhaven so much. It broke away from the mold of what's expected from a dungeon crawler. Not because it wasn't a dungeon crawler. That being said, maybe Dungeon Crawlers arent what you are actually looking for currently? At least not till this game gets reprinted. This seems a step above the rest.

Paul Harper I cant imagine playing an RPG in which the GM is trying to win. To me that negates the entire purpose of an RPG.

@@TheDungeonDive I have not played Dungeon Degenerates, i generally like games with a "serious" tone /darker vibe small amount of humor can be fitting but i cant stand cartoonish artwork :). Its sad some great games seem to have that artstyle.

I am also curious how it will compare to Battlestations (big book, lots of optional rules) since I sort of imagined it to be the Fantasy counterpart.

@@aonline_abridged The translation is good, do not exaggerate, it is not like skull such or others that if they are really bad, could have been done better ? yes, but still there is no problem of understanding about it.

Yes. There is even a small example of using the HeroQuest board in the book. It's a small section of the rule book. With the gear and bestiaries, it would be quite easy to translate another game's quest using DUN's rules, or you could easily make a quest using Descent's tiles, or something like that.

The Dungeon Dive ..excellent!! When will you be doing a video of that!! 😃

Have fun with GH!

The Dungeon Dive yessir lol!!

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@@TheDungeonDive I guess that's a yes?