Give the magical mayonnaise to the Bard. He can find a way to make it into an instrument. Maybe the Jug can help.

Oil from jug. Clay pot made with mold earth and pottery tools. Catapult spell and flamethrower cannon.

@@horatiobizzlebee4862 This. I like this. I'm borrowing this, thank you kindly.

@@invertedghostgames9899 Remember that the alchemy jug weighs 12 lbs no matter what, so in order to throw the jug, you would need to be at least lvl 9 and use up a lvl 3 spell slot.

Don’t toss your oil maker. Put the oil in a simple clay pot. Drop a vial of alchemist fire in too if you like.

I guess they can be especially strong if you know what you are facing and have enough prep time.

Versatility + being able to prepare are a terrifying combo.

We fought against a sentient unicorn balloon with 99,999 health and a 30 in every state. Enlarge is broken. We barely lost because we were fight this thing in the sun and it pushed my mech that I enlarged until it was 4 miles tall into the sides, which sent me to the shadow realm and almost blinded my friend. My DM's older brother literally just sat down at the table, pulled the balloon from his sister birthday party and said "roll initiative." For the record, we were all level 20 and I had a shovel that did 1d20+5 and would always crit if you attacked in midair, which coupled with the enlarged mech and a repulser shield being used to gain ridiculous height, as well as having banishing smite help inside it, almost one shotted it. Thankfully, while we were in the shadow realm(which has some really trippy visuals), we learned some lore about the final boss that revealed that the creator god of the setting was actually an intergalactic conquering force that took over a wizards apprentice (she was also apprenticed alongside a party member) and was using her to remain technically outside of of deific law while racking up a kill count in the Quadrillions. Our last session was wild, but the main takeaway I got from it was that enlarge is op.

@@derpfluidvariant0916 TF2 D&D? Sounds cool. Fighting the ultimate last boss, the balloonicorn.

"When it all comes together, it can multiply their strength." I see what you did there.

Seconded.

Thirded!

Fourth’d

fith'th

Sixthed!

Not playing a gunslinger, but a ranger/artificer with a gun and it is essential for the whole build to work so I totally agree

Dm let me have a gunblade but only a 1 shot capacity for my rifle...so I used an infusion to make it semiautomatic :D

at least til you can take the gunner feat and then swap it for enhanced weapon at lvl 10 for that +2 instead of +1.

Even better, Find Familiar is technically only "cast" once in order to get the familiar by your side, then the spell is done until you need to reshape or resummon them. Depending on your DM's ruling, this could mean that the tattoo disappears and the infusion freed up the moment a familiar appears, allowing an artificer to supply their whole party with familiars. But again, DMs get the final say for their campaign. I personally would rule that Spellwrought Tattoo (1st Level) would function like the Replicate Magic Item limitations, in that each choice of spell is a separate infusion. It could also be argued that the Artificer creating the tattoo would need to know the spell they were inscribing prior to making a magic item based on that spell.

Ugh the argument about this exploit has been terrible on the forums. Some say it is an oversight, some say it’s intentional. Crawford hasn’t brought up an answer so the argument still rages on. For my money it fits well in line with the all-purpose tool which gives access to any cantrip in any spell list for eight hours a day. Also expect for the find familiar spell it isn’t really overpowered.

Also it says when to spell ends the tat goes away so i have looked at it as the find familiar tattoo doesn't go away till it dieds. But thats my thought on it. And i think that a dm limiting it to only artificer spell list would be a reasonable.

@@izunagi9064 As far as balance, that's a very reasonable ruling. As far as wording of the spell, Find Familiar is a 10-minute casting time and Instantaneous duration. My DM was okay with it, but every time the party gets their familiars killed it takes multiple days' worth of infusions to get them all back. Between that, a Steel Defender, and Homunculus servant, my artificer is basically a pokemon trainer at this point.

@@LowellRice42 yeah but more on the ruling i came up with is cause of the texting stating in spellwrought is that the tattoo glows for the duration of the spell then disappear and i thought spells with instantaneous means they have a duration of infinite or til its dispelled or killed in find familiar case. So by this idea the tattoo would be an active infusion so you couldnt make another till it was gone. But this just an idea.

Yeah, it's a wild whipsaw to hear - Enhanced weapon is always useful and great (I don't actually agree, not nearly as good as enhanced armor) and then hearing that the Radiant weapon is niche.

I think it depends whether you have other items competing for your attunement slots.

You can also use it in tandem with enhanced weapon if you want to give another player a magical weapon

It's because of attunement

Same thing with returning weapon, it's the best option for low levels and they hated on it.

Bag of holding is also pretty important if you're playing realistically. Most artificers have multiple sets of tools that are nice to have handy. Infusions are the core artificer class ability. To say it's selfish to keep them for yourself is pretty silly.

Yeah I typically used both on myself until I got three, and it's the third that usually gets swapped around, currently as a spell refueling ring on the cleric. If I really expect tough combat I may give the paladin an enhanced weapon (the barbarian already got a magic weapon) too since I'm an artillerist and my homonculous is less useful than my cannons, but for average days my homonculous has a lot of versatility that helps.

I tend to assume a "selfish" build by default unless my character is specifically-about helping others. Same goes for my bards.

An Artificer using infusions on themselves makes the class very strong! Having a strong player helps the party.

It depends on if your party has blatant holes that you could fill but clearly choose not to because buffing your party doesn’t make you feel as cool as buffing yourself, even when your impact would be much higher. Do you only use your flash of genius to help yourself, even when it results in you having spares at the end of every adventuring day? Would you use a lore bard’s inspiration exclusively for cutting words against attacks against you? The reality of support classes is that they always have the versatility to help themselves or someone else relative to non-support classes. Go figure how using those abilities tend to be best used. I’m all for roleplay that lends itself to a selfish character, but I would hope such a character at my table would grow over time if they were playing a support class, rather than seeing meta-reasoning that no class should be expected by the party to do anything.

You can just use the hammer of thunder bolts though maybe I’m wrong. It says You ignore all class, race, spell and level requirements on attuning to or using a magic item. Does not ignore item requirements I guess

@@blairbrook1336 Yeah it doesn't ignore item requirements but imo the item requirements for that is just dumb. Just give them their hammer of thunderbolts...the party doesn't need to go questing for the other two items (unless they want to, I guess)

@@snazzyfeathers The whole point of that is to allow stacking of bonuses from the items while making older items useful again. Early on you get the Gauntlets that is useful early on and then you go for the Belt of Giant strength for that 21-29 strength. Then you find the hammer. If you don't have these Items then it is just a +1 weapon but if you have the belt and gaunlets you are likely using the belt and now you attune to the hammer and the Gauntlets are now a +4 strenth bonus essentially upgrading the belt and it gives you a limited attack option. If you are a lvl 20 Barbarian then you can ignore belt Attunement and have a 28 strength. But yes they basically said if you want to be Thor you need all three items.

@@snazzyfeathers one thing about this. The set of items required are references to Thor, not comics Thor, but the Thor of Norse religion. To weild Mjolnir, he needs the Járngreipr and uses the belt Megingjörđ to double his strength.

This! This infusion is all about making the tanky ranged character and is one of the few infusions which opens up a new type of build.

Also, using a two handed crossbow negates the reloading feature of crossbow expert.

Also any magical item a Artificer infuses can also be used as a spell focus. So being able to cast spells while having a Hand Crossbow and a shield is also nice.

Exactly repeating shot is fantastic with crossbow expert and the other thing you can do is be using a 1 handed melee weapon and a hand crossbow so you can target someone you are in combat with with both weapons or still be engaging them and shoot someone else

@@LupineShadowOmega just because you have a spell focus doesn't me you don't need a free hand still. now if you have warcaster then that's a moot point.

Enhanced Arcane Focus is a wand of the Warmage as an infusion. They did this because with the release of Tasha's they made a Rod of the Pactkeeper equivalent for all caster classes.

the wording on enhanced arcane focus is “While holding this item, a creature gains a +1 bonus to spell attack rolls. In addition, the creature ignores half cover when making a spell attack.” the homunculus servant is a different creature so it likely isn’t meant to gain the bonus from it, but the eldritch cannons might because it does say you’re making the spell attack roll. check with your DM. personally i’d allow it to affect the cannons, the servant, the steel defender AND any of the summoned creatures from tasha’s summon spells, but YMMV

@@Hazel-xl8in but the wording on the Homunculus and your Eldritch Cannon is that they scale based on YOUR spell attack, they don't have one of their own, they borrow yours. So if yours goes up, it seems automatic to me that theirs goes up too.

It can also be changed up every day by reinfusing the armour and choosing a different resistance.

My artificer was running both Enhanced Defense and Resistant Armor at the same time, while out and about Enhanced armor. "hey can you go hunt these salamanders and a chimera?" one arcana check later (to see if I know the resistances/vulnerabilities) I switch to Resistant Armor when we camp within sight of the Volcano they're nesting in/on. It was super effective.

Resistance to psychic can be given to a bear totem barbarian

I'm playing a battlesmith in descent into avernus, whilst we're not yet in avernus, I imagine I'm going to be basically forced to take this when we do.

@@alastortheradiodemon1817 I was gonna suggest that too! Really good one.

Maximum brain plays right there

Holy shit this is an amazing idea

Go Go Gadget shield

Even better, combo it with Returning Weapon on your shield if your DM will let you (not RAW but likely not a difficult sell), and suddenly you're Captain America.

@@foxoninetails_ I'd probably allow that as a seperate infusion at a higher level.

Now I want to build an artificer to be Data from the Goonies!

@@jwuphoff such a badass

the wording of the spell is a bit iffy on whether it’s you or the cannon making the attack roll. personally i’d allow it to work on the cannon AND any creature you summon like the homunculus servant or the summon construct spell, but whether that’s RAW or not is unclear.

I think it is great for alchemists whose damage comes almost exclusively from ranged attack cantrips.

I don’t know if I’d let it be used on the cannon, but the ability that makes your wand a gun to shoot cantrips out of would still combo nicely with it

It's huge for artillerist, since it is so hardly dependant on those firebolts.

@@Hazel-xl8in ​@evilsquirrel0573 It seems pretty clear to me that the player is the one making the attack, as it just says "make a ranged spell attack" not "the cannon makes a ranged spell attack." It's no different than a familiar using a touch spell, it is just your action from a different position. And the flamethrower uses your DC, which could be boosted by a magic item, so it makes the most sense for the ballista to also use your modifier including magic boosts.

This! My L12 Enhanced half plate, Cloak of Protection, Repeating hand crossbow, Gauntlets of Ogre Power battle smith tanks so well. Throw in a mundane shield, CBE, and SS. Steel Defender uses SSI with Warding Bond on me (so I get the bonuses) and hangs back soaking damage while I go in, shove prone (Gauntlets make this easier), and unload 2 SS attacks (Extra Attack and CBE bonus) with advantage at point blank. Edit: I also have Hex via Fey Touched taken as racial L1 feat and target STR for my shoves and bonus damage. Or use Haste for more attacks and AC.

Don't forget the campaigns that allow firearm use. MAGIC GUNS YOU DON'T HAVE TO RELOAD! Battlemaster pistol and shield is a very effective tanking option, and an Infiltrator Armorer with a rifle is so much fun to play, especially if you can mix in some levels in Gunslinger (technically homebrew, I know, but still very fun).

@@Zanarthis Risky. Armorer does not get INT to magic weapon attacks, so you'd be using middle-range DEX for your musket/rifle; Armorer only gets INT for the weapons provided by the two armor options. Edit: I will add, I started my Battle Smith using a Repeating Musket (muskets are part of the campaign setting). I found myself on the front line and the Steel Defender was no good as a tank. So the switch to hand crossbow, with all the goodies previously listed, ensured that I was a threat.

If you don’t need to reload your crossbow. You could use a hand crossbow and a shield.

this!!!

Yes, but sometimes another party member can make more effective use of an infusion than you can, so you have to watch out for those cases.

Or a Rapier and go Full Pirate with pistol and cutlass. Since you can use the bonus action shot after a attack with a weapon (the problem until now was that you had to have a free hand). That's not good per se, but just grabs a lot of the "why cant I do this?" things that the system had for ages and unlocks It.

@@albertonishiyama1980 I like this style too because with the Duel Wielder feat you can fight with two swords but also stow the sword and draw the hand crossbow in the same round if you want to make a ranged attack. There are no preloaded weapons in 5e so this wouldn't work otherwise.

This seems to be a common misconception. Ignoring the loading property doesn't mean the weapon doesn't need to be loaded, it just means that it doesn't restrict how many attacks you can make in a turn to do so. You still have to tension the crossbow strings in order for it to function, which does take a free hand.

@@auzieten The reason that you need the free hand when removing only the loading property is because the ammunition property still requires a free hand. If you get rid of both the need for ammo and the loading property, as you do with the repeating shot infusion, then no free hand is required. You still need a free hand to use special ammo.

@@maltava4534 That doesn't make any sense at all, and it's not how crossbows work. You need a free hand to prime the crossbow AND to put ammo in. That's why it has the loading property, because that takes longer. Removing the loading property doesn't mean you don't still do those two things, it just means that you've gotten so good at it that it doesn't take extra time. Repeating shot just means that after you prime the crossbow with your free hand, a piece of ammunition magically appears.

Curse you, Gerry the Gelatinous!

Awakened platypus with 5 levels in monk.

Something also missing is that Artificers do not have a telepathic link to their homunculus, including the ability to use its senses.

Yep take a shield and a spear you get a +1 weapon, you can throw it for range but use it in melee, extra AC, and can stack with Polearm Master. It's awesome

Also, for battle smiths specifically, you want to use an infused weapon as a spell focus due to extra attack, so returning weapon is basically a win/win if your weapon happens to be thrown; ranged one-handed extra attack while still being able to cast or use a shield or other item in your second hand.

I wonder if it's possible to throw two handed (combine versatile and thrown). Sounds RAW but not RAI. edit: I found and answer and it is no. Versatile specifies the bigger damage die only happens on two-handed melee attacks.

Technically the feat reads that it gets +1 to attack and damage rolls for ranged attacks, so I don't think it's +1 in melee. Still, I put it on someone's javelin at low level and it did serious work.

@@sethb3090 "grants a +1 bonus to attack and damage rolls made with it, and it returns to the wielder’s hand immediately after it is used to make a ranged attack." Definitely a straight +1; javelins a good choice though :)

Or R.I.C., the dog from Power Rangers SPD.

@@benjaminholcomb9478 Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a while! 😂

@@roweproductions9424 ain't gonna lie, actually had to Google it. Lol

@@benjaminholcomb9478 😂

Fun fact: make a Tabaxi Artificer, give him a Homunculus Servant robot, strap him to your back as needed. Boom, Ratchet & Clank. XD

Rush from megaman 3,any pet,mini me and your favorite childhood toy would be better.

I was thinking of Wonderbot from Robots

I was thinking metabee from metabots or Haro from Gundam.

@@isaackarr6576 Battle Smith great for Rush. Artillerist or Armorer great for Rock man.

@@spoonyluv19 I love the idea of having Haro so much. Brilliant idea

Of note also: it's arguable that your arcane armor still counts as for the requirements of, say, Enhanced Weapon. You just can't *also* apply Enhanced Armor. Check with your DM.

the gauntlets are a special weapon not part of the armor so you can use enhanced weapon and enhanced defense (or any of the other armor infusions)

@@finalfantasy50 The description of the Thunder Gauntlets say "Each of the armor's gauntlets counts as a simple melee weapon while you aren't holding anything in it". The gauntlets are the armor's gauntlets, and therefor a part of the armor.

​@@WolframKZfaq That just means the gauntlets are a weapon that you wear. It's a target for the infusion. You are infusing the armor because the armor is a weapon. Armor Modifications is only saying there that the individual parts can now hold your infusions.

Yeah, homunculus is kind of a tough pick for me since all of the artificers have bonus actions they want to use as much as possible. Beyond out of combat stuff like scouting, it may be best for an alchemist for some extra damage and ranged cure wounds, but is that really better than using firebolt and healing word? Not by much.

In all honesty, the homoculus is a massive gimic. You're better off taking magic initiate (wizard) and having find familiar. Has all the benefits without needing to use your bonus action. And who doesn't want 2 more cantrips? The homoculus is even less valuable for a level 15 artillerist who can have 2 EC's at once and which can both be used with the same bonus action.

You gotta see that you don't need to use the bonus action to move it and let it deliver spells like cure wounds. You could use the cannons and cast the spell trough the homunculus both in the same round. Also Artificer doesn't have access to healing word for ranged healing.

@@ToabyToastbrot alchemist gets healing word.

@@rickau well yeah, i would certainly expect an infusion you get at level 2 to not be nearly as useful at level 15. that’s kind of how this game works, and that’s why you can both train out infusions and know twice as many as you can use at a given time. it’s good for a while, but 1d4 + PB damage isn’t supposed to last or scale well.

so the question is +2 damage per attack and longer range or +2 AC…

Great point. This infusion is pretty much the only way non-homebrew way to use a ranged weapon and a shield. Normally you need a hand free to load a hand crossbow even though it is a one-handed weapon because of the Ammunition property. Even the Crossbow Expert Feat, which lets you ignore the Loading property, does not get around this problem: media.wizards.com/2020/dnd/downloads/SA-Compendium.pdf (See page 8, bottom left) ...But this infusion does: "If you load no ammunition in the weapon, it produces its own, automatically creating one piece of magic ammunition when you make a ranged attack with it."

@@Hazel-xl8in Both. Put it on your Arc Launcher and put Enhanced Defense on your armor and take a shield *and* War Caster *and* a mace. Congrats, you can do everything!

Exactly. Additionally, Radiant Weapon also makes the weapon a +1 weapon, so it has an edge over Enhanced Weapon from 6-9.

Low level BBEG destroyer...

Also blur has a range of self so you can't cast it on an ally

yes but the problem is that it uses your reaction and at some time you gonna have to choose between flash of genious to make the save and take half dmg or take full dmg and make the concentration save with mind sharpener? I found out that i would almost always choose half damage...

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Or literally give it to your bear totem Barbarian and make his medium armor resistant to psychic damage

An armorer with booming blade; run, punch, stay or suck.

It's great for alchemists who add their int bonus to their attacks at level 5. That's +7 to hit for 2d10+4 at level 5. Pretty reliable.

It is a +1/+2 wand of the warmage and what they are saying is what warlock wants a wand of the warmage when a rod of the Pactkeeper exists and is just as difficult to find. With Tasha's they have created items for each caster class that are equivalent to the rod of the Pactkeeper. For my Artificer give me the ability to make a lesser version of the All-Purpose Tool. I can already make any tool at lvl 3 it just takes alot longer (1 hour vs. 1 action) the existing infusion gives a +1/+2 spell bonus the tool adds to spell DC which the infusion should have. And the tool gives you an Artificer cantrip from any class spell list for 8 hours. This I would leave off the infusion because this is the regain a pact slot feature of the rod and this feature seems like it should be a seperate infusion option.

@@njsoapdish You can't get the int bonus when using a wand/focus, you need to use your alchemist tools. Which is why I really dislike enchanced focus.

@@Malthan that restriction is pretty silly as written. I imagine most dms would allow them to combo, but fair enough.

Artillerist gets Arcane Firearm at 5th level. A spell focus that adds +1D8 damage and is not magical. You can enhance it with Enhanced Focus, and in fact there's no reason not to. Considering they also said Artillerist should take Homunculus Servant when they want their bonus actions for their Eldritch Cannon, I think they just completely forgot everything that makes Artillerist Artillerist.

Just be an aarakocra and use mage armor/studded leather

they mentioned it in their discussion, just apaprently forgot in their description of it

@@caelandemaziere7939 Oh yeah they did, I missed that part, I just thought it was odd they rated it so low when it's so similar to enhanced defense. Might be because of the attunement slot required, but depending on the DM you'll most likely have more than enough attunement slots free anyway at lvl 6

And since you cannot take enhanced defense twice, this lets you buff your armor and shield. I do it for that reason alone, very rarely triggering the repel ability.

I agree, for Battlesmith, it seems like a less beneficial choice. The steel defender will be better in almost every situation.

Same with Artillerist commanding their turrets

They mention this at the end

It makes a good backup for if my Defender goes down or can’t reach an enemy, also it is strong enough to carry a lantern infused to be a lantern of revealing.

They don't deal as much damage, but as a remote cure wounds delivery device they are great, it can hover above the battlefield and then dive down to heal when needed. Out of combat as a scout they are very useful, especially if you need them to be someone they can hide in plain sight where a familiar can't. A mug that is sentient can pick up a lot of things if everyone just thinks it's a mug.

*cough* Hexblade with an invocation on a two-handed weapon *cough*

@@jpjfrey5673 Just playing a bit over a year now, don't have any experience with hexblades... Can you explain a bit? Sounds interesting

That only applies if you're a battlesmith though, the applying Int thing is a non factor for every other subclass. If you're battlesmith, it's incredible, but otherwise, not as much

@@ApeOcalyps hexblades with pact of the blade, can use their pact weapon as a two-handed weapon, you can then add the pretty awesome invocations you get as hexblade. I'd have to look into it more for the precise like "strategy" but basically a hexblade warlock usually can only get their stuff on one handed weapons but going pact of the blade allows for two-handed weapons so ur hexblade becomes a fucking dmg dealing beast, especially if you take greatweapon master or polearmaster feats and make ur pact weapon a halberd or greatsword or something like that Edit: pact of the blade is a class feature of warlocks, you can either go pact of the tome or pact of the chain but for the hexblade subclass build you always choose pact of the blade. Sorry if that was confusing to read, I'm writing while at work

@@Hesauce Yes, important sidenote. Forgot for a moment that not everyone plays battlesmith ^^ But even if you don't, +1 is something especially at low levels. And the choice is either way veeery limited in the early stages. I gave the infusion for two levels to our fighter bc he benefited more than me from it.

This comment is too low. The economy of bonus action is constantly overlooked, I feel, when people are discussing spells and other features for artificer, especially Artillerists. The turrents are the main class feature of artillerists, and requires bonus action to control. Familiar uses its own turn. (Why am I, an artillerists, need to look at a familiar when I already have turrents as my super familiar, you ask? Well, spell-strong item and familiar held by a familiar owl. )

You mean like the alchemist that it was originally designed for as a subclass feature? That they took away due to feedback and didn’t replace with anything…

@@phanspiritus910 indeed. There seems to be a blind spot to "bonus action traffic jam". For example, I've heard of people building rune knights with two-weapon fighting...

@@binolombardi alchemist is indeed the only artificer subclass that does not have a bonus action feature by itself.

@@phanspiritus910 alchemists get healing word, which they may use on a lot of their turns. Otherwise, the homunculus isn't bad to give them a little damage boost.

Even when handing infusions out to the party, you have to renew them every morning. I figure it's a good idea to keep reminding folks that they might lose them on any given day, so it's in their best interest to get a permanent magic item instead, whenever possible.

Take Eldritch Adept at lvl 12 for Devil's Sight. Then you can make your goggles infusion somthing like a cloak of protection.

@@nickm9102 maybe i will, but this is curse of strahd and 3 levels is a lot of time, at that moment who knows what will happen to my character. plus I spent my V. human feat in... chef, so optimisation hasn't been my biggest priority.

@@Nigthmar okay but chef is dope as hell. You get to make snacks for your party! You’re like the kid in 3rd grade that brought cupcakes on his birthday except now every day is your birthday!

It's great for alchemists, too, who use firebolt as their main source of damage.

@@njsoapdish Alchemists want to use alchemist's supplies as their spellcasting focus tho (to benefit from Alchemical Savant), and since the Enhanced Arcane Focus needs to be a wand, rod or staff you wouldn't be able to use it as effectively as you expect

@@maid_of_heart3261 honestly, I think that's a silly restriction and "enhanced arcane focus" should be usable for anything they can use as a focus.

@@njsoapdish I agree, and if an alchemist at my table asked me if they could use it on their alchemist's supplies I'd probably allow it, but RAW it's not allowed

Yeah, I don't know how they didn't mention that.

It requires attunement, though

Exactly. You learn so many more infusions than you can actually use that you actually _want_ some to be situational -- as long as you can expect a day's notice for when they'll be useful.

I think the fact that they talked about Homunculus Servant on Artillerist when Eldritch Cannon needs their bonus action is basically proof that they forgot what makes Artillerist Artillerist. (Also, I'm 99% sure you can Enhanced Focus ON Arcane Firearm.)

@@Ranylyn Yeah, all those enhancements stacks so you can put it all on one arcane focus!

The problem with the servant as an focus is that the servant itself is a creature, and you use infused objects as foci. >"After you gain the Infuse Item feature at 2nd level, you can also use any item bearing one of your infusions as a spellcasting focus." Which means the infused item is the core, not the creature around it. Up to your DM if you can, like, grab its gem heart from a back panel or something to use it like a focus. My DM said no, but it's not exactly broken to allow it.

alchemists will be using their bonus action for healing word a lot, too. Making it useless on those turns. It's probably best for an infiltrator armor or alchemist for the extra damage. Basically it's a spiritual weapon without needing a spell slot.

I disagree for the armorer/guardian part, i as a guardian have noticed that i repeatedly have nothing to do for a bonus action. Also i like how nobody noticed the out of combat stats of this thing. At lvl 5 this thing has like a 16 passive perception (and a similarly high perception skill), also it has 60 ft. of darkvision and very high stealth. Perfect scouting tool. And even if you don't have the bonus action for this, it's pretty tanky aswell with mine having 21hp and the standard 13 ac. So if you can't do much with it it can just soak up damage, definitely a 10/10 infusion.

​@@ArchWillhelm I feel like at first a Homunculus is useful on an armorer, but eventually I'd rather get the Dual Wielder feat on them. Use that with the arcane propulsion armor and you can toss out thunder gauntlets to hit 3 separate targets imposing disadvantage on their attacks. Then you just book it the other direction so they can't hit you back. Being able to apply that force damage from arcane propulsion armor onto the off hand attack really sells that feat as just a strictly better attack than bonus action homunculus. I think they grossly under estimated arcane propulsion armor generally speaking tbh. Pay close attention to the text: nothing even remotely indicates that thunder gauntlets and arcane propulsion armor are mutually exclusive. You make arcane propulsion armor, then set it as your arcane armor. Now your armor "INCLUDES" thunder gauntlets which "INCLUDE" an extra 1d8 force damage and thrown property (but you can't infuse the gauntlets because arcane propulsion armor makes them magical).

@@TurtletheShell I as an armorer tend to be the frontline, thus i usually rock a shield.

@@ArchWillhelm Yeah, I've played several lower AC tanks before (i mean, 18 / 19 ac) and had no problem with it. It's easy to have more than that much AC. It depends on your team comp. If you have a few different frontliners, you can flex into that damage. Once you have arcane propulsion armor, you're probably doing more for your team by giving multiple enemies disadvantage AND being a frontliner on the other side of the fight, than you are giving no one disadvantage but having 2-4 more ac when you already have a ton. Again, though, if you are THE frontline, then that definitely makes sense.

Treantmonk only cares about DPR it seems, so I'm not surprised he doesn't like the fun utility class

Treatmonk has no idea what he talks about. He's the type of guy that would say wish sucks because it doesn't add to a wizard's dpr.

But still his god wizard and the do it all clock sorcerer does like no damage. Bilron and dragons is more like that.

What I want is like a really good build for the artificer.

@@trappyboi8678 ummm, just no… that’s the exact opposite of Treantmonk… I disagree with his take on artificers, but to say he would say no to wish (even as hyperbole) because it doesn’t add to dpr is to fundamentally misunderstand everything he is about. He literally states in every single wizard video that control spells are better than dpr spells…

aquaman!

Artificers already get firearm proficency, so the feat isn't even needed!

The party: Hey, I found a magic item! Artificer: I could've had that already

Yeah very cool mix

I think they posted something on the community page about when they are starting them. They are on the way.

@@KnicKnac they have already started them, as armorer is only in Tasha’s,

A nice DM might allow it, but rules as written, I really doubt it.

The wording so wishy washy and it’s not like a huge bump. Assuming duel wield feat 3d8 of force damage a round? At 14 lol I could of just put 2 level into pally and just used smite.