Dynaudio Confidence 50 Review | Is This The BEST Speaker Out There?

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Dynaudio Confidence 50 Review | Is This The BEST Speaker Out There?

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HiFi Turtle

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@abxaudiophiles 3 ай бұрын

Ok. Someone in my discord shared your review. LOVE it!! I’m a huge Dynaudio fan and have had the Emit 50, Evoke 50, and Focus 50 in house this year for review. LOVE THEM!! Best in show at Axpona 2023 and 2024 for us!! Great review. Subscribed 😊😊

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

Congrats. Like you i waited and a dealer Demo pair of Confidence 20's came my way, i owned them for 2 years, and was convinced they would be my end game speaker. Then that same dealer wanted the 20's back and offered me his Confidence 30 speakers at a great deal. I jumped all over that, I ended up paying $18K CDN for the 1 year old confidence 30's. Let me tell you, the 20's are the most incredible "bookshelf" speaker you will hear, at the same time switching to the 30's created an entirely different listening experience. After spending 4 hours placing the speakers and my listening chair in the room, we hit the sweet spot. I made six large acoustic panels, 2 at each reflection point, and a ceiling cloud above each speaker. My room is treated fairly well, and room treatment will keep you from swapping audio components so often. Tune the room for the gear you have. A large floor stander will deliver such a huge soundstage and overall musical difference compared to a bookshelf speaker. At the same time they are the correct speaker for my room, and they do not overpower the room.

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

Oh by the way, I am running a pair of Sugden MPA-4 pure class A mono blocks with my Confidence 30's 165 watts of pure class A power = to 550 watt class AB . I found a conversion, lol. At the same time, they have no issues driving these big speakers.

@ej20tscully 3 ай бұрын

Congrats on your new speakers!. I Have owned a lot of Dyns over the years and currently have C4 Platinums. The Evidence is a completely different beast, especially the Master. They need a very large room and are not for everyone. Thanks for the video and enjoy your journey.

@alpro3714 3 ай бұрын

Great review.😃 I most say that I am a little biased since I own a pair of Dynaudio Confidence 30. Before I purchased them, I listened to the Wilson Sabrina X, , Focal (can't remember the model) and a few others and I fully agree with your review and assessment. While I did not compare the Confidence 50 with the Confidence 30 ( out of my price range), the tweeter and and midrange are amazing. They are good for pop, rock, etc, but they are absolutely incredible with classical and jazz. As far as the bass is concerned, I combined them with a pair of REL S/510 subwoofers. Best of both worlds. 😁

@zzt231gr 3 ай бұрын

Nice video!Your smile shows how good they are! Could you make a follow up video sharing in room measurements and position distances?

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Dynaudio themselves said they want to come check out my room so there will be a followup with their setup process and such 👍

@EricMiller-ts1qo 2 ай бұрын

Man I bet they sound incredible and sure am jealous and envious at the same time. I’m sure you work hard for your money and more than likely are exceptional at whatever you do. I’m always happy to see someone so enthusiastic with a purchase such as this in Hifi. Congratulations MY GUY. You are so blessed and your enthusiasm shows how grateful you are. Enjoy them my fellow audio enthusiast. Love the content. Don’t change a thing.

@HiFiTurtle 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@TheVeganVicar 3 ай бұрын

Now tell us what you REAAALLY think of the speakers. The tweeters in my main monitors are Dynaudio (with Vifa mid and bass drivers). I LOVE them!

@oysteinsoreide4323 2 ай бұрын

It is not often I believe that it is thundering outside when hearing it in speakers. But with my Dynaudio Evoke 50 I have experienced that I believe that it was thunder from the outside of the house. Very realistic sound. Confidence 20 is on my wishlist. I believe that the 20 is a good fit for my room.

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

I stepped up from the Contour 20i speaker to the Confidence 20's, and there was a night and day difference.The Confidence line is levels up and worth the money. Save up or find a demo pair?

@oysteinsoreide4323 Ай бұрын

@@user-ef3hf1et3t I will be able to buy it at one point. Unless there comes something more intriguing while I save up.

@phatjbl 3 ай бұрын

Hi Yeah I'm a Dynaudio fan. An upgrade from many. You must have bags of current and watts. I would look at Bryston Vittus or Michi power amps in the sensible money power amp area. I h ave heard these with Mc Intosh 601 monos...ok but I'm sure the speakers could want more in terms of quality. I have speakers with Esotar ones and peerless drivers. Very much like Duntech who used Dynaudio drivers back in the days where Dynaudio sold their drivers to other makers. Like Duntech they have addressed time step on the baffles. Top choice. Well done. Enjoy.

@Bass_therapy_ 3 ай бұрын

🔥🔥🔥 great review

@danahill7546 2 ай бұрын

Welcome to the Dynaudio family!

@X6FMB 24 күн бұрын

What a great review! I would love a pair of these, maybe matched with a Naim stack, but my pockets are just not deep enough. 😢

@suwatt6019 3 ай бұрын

Yo - Nice review homie. I have the Contour 20i's along with the stands and adapter plates. If i wanted to upgrade would you go for Confidence 20 or see how the Contour 20 Black Edition specs out?

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Thanks man! I'd see how the black edition specs. Dyn putting the esotar 3 on the black edition is a game changer for what I would assume the pricing will be (guessing around $7,500). My thought is it's the non-limited edition replacement to the Heritage Special.

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

I stepped up from the Contour 20i speaker to the Confidence 20's, and there was a night and day difference.The Confidence line is levels up and worth the money. Save up or find a demo pair?

@psyphonyxaudio 3 ай бұрын

Solid intro. =) Well written theme / phrases.

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Buy 2 speakers, get 2 caskets free!

@psyphonyxaudio 3 ай бұрын

That motor shape comparison was supremely well stated. 😇

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

@@psyphonyxaudio I know you know :)

@psyphonyxaudio 3 ай бұрын

I really like the footers.. That's great.

@psyphonyxaudio 3 ай бұрын

ENTHEOS !! .... 100% .. Yes =) That was a great moment. Thanks for sharing that.

@drplot1 2 ай бұрын

Great review. You are very knowledgable. Love these speakers and I love the sleek look, yet they have a good deal of internal volume. One thing that wasn't clear to me is how much continuous power would they need to shine in good sized room. 250 watts into 4 ohms per channel or more like 300-400 watts??? With a measured efficiency of 87db, I would think 250 watts should be more than enough but I'm not sure

@HiFiTurtle 2 ай бұрын

Ive had success even with 75 watts. Whats really important is how the amp deals with impedence down to 2ohms because from what Ive seen this has some punishing curves

@mikelautermilch8939 2 ай бұрын

Hello. Great review. Your enthusiasm is contagious. It's got me really considering getting a pair of these. However, there's a nagging question in my mind. This is kind of technical, but here goes. Speaker cones will start "beaming" at certain frequencies, depending on the size of the cone. (Hopefully you're familiar with the term.) The mid-range drivers on the Confidence 50 are 15 cm. My understanding is that a driver of this size will start beaming at around 2300 Hz. And yet the crossover point on the Confidence 50 is 2860 Hz. Doesn't this create a dip in mid-range frequency response when listening with the tweeter at ear height? And doesn't it affect the overall tonal balance in the room (since there's not as much dispersion at frequencies where beaming occurs)? Alternatively, if you listen with one of the mid-range drivers at ear height (instead of the tweeter), it seems like you'd get a dip in high-frequency due to beaming from the tweeter. Have you noticed anything like this? Like if you move your head up and then down a few inches, is there a significant shift in tonal balance. Relatedly, where do you typically position your ears relative to tweeter and/or mid-range height?

@HiFiTurtle 2 ай бұрын

There is a shift but thats true of any speaker Ive experienced. My ear hight is more in line with the bottom midwoofer. Dyn's suggestion is to be ~5° below the tweeter so theyre likely doing something with the tuning, crossover, and the baffle to adjust. The MTM configuration helps with the vertical dispersion as well.

@mikelautermilch8939 2 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtle Thanks. I'm going to try to hear them somewhere. You've piqued my curiosity.

@user-wr4vp4mt7e 3 ай бұрын

subed, thanks

@hppsimulation9532 Ай бұрын

Nice 👍. Have you heard any of the Legacy Audio's speakers?

@HiFiTurtle Ай бұрын

Only at shows, but they are awesome!

@ronaldweed6103 3 ай бұрын

Well,I gotta get a loan, ha!! Awesome speaker & you did very well. Enjoy! I'm going to good guys,130 JBL

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@Sparta155 3 ай бұрын

A very enjoyable review. A quick technical point - these aren't point sources, as the distance between the tweeter and midrange needs to be within a quarter of the crossover frequency wavelength. Realistically this is only achievable with coaxial drivers if using a midrange / tweeter setup.

@thinkIndependent2024 3 ай бұрын

True but other configurations can equal or out perform point source, Array alignment and phase coherence can be achieved in different ways. Manufacturers can put whatever price they want on a product , whatever the market will bare.

@Sparta155 3 ай бұрын

@@thinkIndependent2024 Being a point source or otherwise says nothing about phase coherence, but being a point source does strongly correlate with a well controlled polar response. Many ways to build a good speaker, of course.

@thinkIndependent2024 3 ай бұрын

@@Sparta155I don't listen for polar response . It is not the binaural projection invented in 1929 for Stereo Sound that was based on optics and light.

@Sparta155 3 ай бұрын

@@thinkIndependent2024 That's fine, but it's proven to be correlated with sound quality.

@thinkIndependent2024 3 ай бұрын

@@Sparta155It's only a part of the whole . My systems produce life like Soundstage with the singers voice at the proper height and position along with the instruments. Point Source has problems working that way

@thesonnytackettshow7949 2 ай бұрын

I was lucky enough to be around when Dynaudio sold their components separately, and I’ve built many custom systems using their drivers. Too bad they’re still not available.

@theoracleprodigy 3 ай бұрын

Just a side note Focal was the maker of the tweeters for Wilson Audio before they switched beryllium. I actually like the beryllium better than the scan speak tweeter they use now. I have both in my house. The Scan speak is a little softer, thus soft dome but not as quick as the beryllium. Either speaker would have a better cross over than these. I don't get how those sound like anything but I guess if the stars aligned right, maybe?

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

I don't think Wilsom ever used Focal's beryllium tweeters, always used their aluminum/magnesium or TNF. Wilson also pots their crossovers, I've never seen a Wilson crossover, and I doubt anyone outside their factory has. So I dont think you can say without a shadow doubt their crossover is "better."

@azar3006 3 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtleTo say I am shocked by the crossover is an under statement ! A $33,000 speaker that has $1.25 capacitors and $.50 sand cast resistors in it. There is no way they couldn’t improve the parts quality of their crossover ! I upgraded my crossover parts and now my speakers sound better than speakers costing twice as much, not to mention because of the reduced ESR the speakers are twice as loud meaning you can use a much smaller amplifier to drive them ! This is an insult to the average consumer no matter how good they sound, they can easily be made better !

@theoracleprodigy 3 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtle Your right they never used Focal's beryllium tweeter. They used the softdome tweeter before Focal made the beryllium tweeter. Focal decided a while back not to supply drivers anymore and create their own speaker. As for the crossover, you can see them in a how it's made Willsons video. Quite interesting to watch. Those guys have something special with cabinets but they don't make their own drivers. You can see the brands and crossovers in that video. I am not saying Willson's are for everyone but the parts they use are way above average.

@harrisedgar Ай бұрын

I feel the same about this twitter.... Great review.!!! Thank you...!! However, I need to know about amp paring, those ohms deeps worryme

@HiFiTurtle Ай бұрын

Enough headroom with stability into 2ohms is key. Anything over 100Wpc into 4ohms should be fine.

@harrisedgar Ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtle I see... The thing is that 2 ohm stability doesn't come cheap..

@dgukov 20 күн бұрын

For good bass (and not just bass) you need good gear and interconnects. What DAC you have? You need at least $5k DAC, then $10K amp, and cables about price of nordost frey2 cables. Also I cant believe it may play well standing near the wall. For me its best at 110cm, or at least 100cm *front* baffle to the wall.

@joecartwright9221 3 ай бұрын

Crossover parts???? Most important

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Parts or design? I think some audiophiles get too wrapped up about parts. Just because a crossover contains the most exotic parts does not guarentee an outstanding design. Likewise a crossover using "cheap" parts does not mean low quality. A smart designer knows the qualities and values of components and will select the best for the design's purpose. In some cases that means the cheap stuff is a better selection than exotic.

@azar3006 3 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtleCheap parts are cheap, end of the discussion. There is no way an electrolytic capacitor is superior to a thin foil one or an iron core inductor to an air core one in an audio signal path . This is just childish to argue these points anymore !

@thinkIndependent2024 3 ай бұрын

Congratulations !! Listening to 6 figure systems I will never be convinced price is the buying criteria

@asmbulbul Ай бұрын

What kind of amplifier I should hook up with my C50s?

@HiFiTurtle Ай бұрын

Are you asking solid state vs tube? There are some tubes Ive heard pair well with these, but the impedence curves make solid state a much more generally recommended option

@JD-mm4ub 3 ай бұрын

How much toe-in are you using with the 50’s?

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

Id gander about 15°

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

I have the 30's, and the toe in is specific to each room, mine is slight, the tweeters are aimed just past my ears.

@IrenESorius 3 ай бұрын

🔥🌟🔥

@user-go9yz1gk7k 3 ай бұрын

Crossover looking very bad

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

According to?

@theoracleprodigy 3 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtle everyone. Those look cheap and chintziest I've ever seen. Like less than $25 in parts. The gray resistors, try .99 cents; the inductors those are solid core, around $10, and the caps not sure on the quality of those either. I see one resistor that's quality and one cap that's mundorf. In comparison I have a bookself two way design with around $500 in parts and 2nd order filters. Those are not necessarily needed, but for baffle step compensation it is. The crossover you showed I would expect in cheap box store speakers.

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

@@theoracleprodigy would it make you feel better if the parts were $75 or $150? Would it be better if it were? I said this in another comment that the obcession of parts in a crossover is short sighted. The design is whats important, unless you were there with the designer and understood and saw the data they had in testing and development it will always just be hearsay. A good designer knows the values of parts and will select the best for the design's purpose. Seeing jumbo sized caps and inductors is not a guarentee of quality just like seeing Waygu or Kobe is not on a steak menu. Also, missing from Dyn's page is the board for the tweeter so there is potentially something palateble going on there to your visual inspection

@azar3006 3 ай бұрын

@@HiFiTurtleSorry don’t want to hurt your feelings but acting like designers are some genius scientists that have magical powers is well childish. Danny from GR Research would laugh his A$$ off looking at that crossover ! BTW, I am not just speaking hypothetically, I have done the upgrade and seen the result !

@HiFiTurtle 3 ай бұрын

@@azar3006 well I've had a good laugh reading your comments, Glad you're happy with the upgrades

@kjellhedberg-py3ll 2 ай бұрын

They sound plasic like all Dynaudio speakers, doo. This review from a yong boy is silly!

@HiFiTurtle 2 ай бұрын

Youve probably had that opinion of Dynaudio for longer than I've been alive

@user-ef3hf1et3t Ай бұрын

Typical hater that has never owned anything decent.

@dgukov 20 күн бұрын

It may sound like that plasticky only if you have really poor gear, dac amp and wires. The dynns are actually transparent and they just show that your a cheapskater

@user-ef3hf1et3t 18 күн бұрын

@@dgukov Don't feed this troll. He is a broke hater.