And that's holding back considerably on torque

In this video really the most important feature is people saying that the charge pipe picks up a ton of power but as you can see it really doesn't. I'd venture to guess the factory one is actually better because it's not going to transfer heat. I think ETS is sending us one to test on our car so I'll do it on the dyno back-to-back comparison. Have a bunch of Perrin parts coming too

@@WT4T Im in a VA wrx, but will still tune in for all your VB testing!

I did some similar testing when the VA's came out but I didn't have the channel going

I have another intake to do on our car then it's onto jpipe and header then going crazy

Not a lot is similar between the 21 and the 22. Kind of shocking the difference honestly.

So far we've made just shy of 500whp on a stock engine. I know some others have made more. It'll be interesting to see how long they last.

@@WT4T I’m no expert but I was reading somewhere that the FA24 is a beefed up FA20 so if it can hold 400+ whp reliably I’d say that’s pretty good

Considering fa20 love to go floppy rod at sub 300 it's been a little nervous pushing these deep into the 400's but time will tell.

Blowing things up is the secret recipe to a lucrative KZfaq following, well, that and running from the cops.

Yeah every dyno is different. Definately more hp than ive seen with those mods but tq is normal. Most ive seen hp wise on stock j pipe is 332 on my dyno on the 92oct we get here.

Pretty good, i got my car protune cobb stage 2 package and its making 300whp and 280wtq he recommends getting jpipe and catback to get better airflow on the exhaust for more whp. Btw my car is tuned by all aspects motorsports

That torque number is very low, cvt car?

​@WT4T ops sorry i meant 380wtq 😅

Yeah, that's better. 280 might make sense on cvt trying to keep the trans happy but on a MT that would be hard to keep it that low.

Actually, I'm working on a blog post and I certainly can do it there

@@WT4Tgreat where will that be posted?

It'll be on www.PREracing.com

I'm actually about to test a few Perrin products on our 2023. Historically I haven't been the biggest fan of their stuff for a variety of reasons so we'll see.

Funny you say that. I just got the Perrin TMIC in last night with Perrin charge pipe. Already have ETS intake with DMann OTS. Gonna throw in Radium dual catch can kit as well. E-tune this weekend and CANNOT WAIT to see the gains. To say the least this comment boosted my moral immensely based off my purchase decisions😂

@@WT4T I am actually on the same page with you about Perrin parts. Just about the only thing I found myself liking was their license plate bracket. My data is purely a metric of cubic inches vs price, but that being said, when you see their TMIC, you will know why I believe it will be the best performer of the TMIC options available today. They redid the inlet area to bypass the OEM fitting making for a more direct and less restrictive intercooler interface. I still wouldn't get much else from them, but I am 100% convinced you will be sold on their TMIC when you run it. Looking forward to that video.

Im not sold on any tmic. Literally zero reason to run one on these cars. Fmic will be far superior in every way. 🤷‍♂️

​@@WT4T I disagree, I think most people with an FMIC have ZERO use for one. They are not tuned for enough power and do not drive hard enough to actually justify the part over others. there is only a small percent of modified cars hitting tracks, they have justification. People who drive like tickets are rewards and live in hot climates may have some justification...anyone else is wasting their money...well, not wasting, there is a performance increase for an FMIC over TMIC like you said...but it is a scale of diminishing returns when you factor comparative cost to performance metrics, and the vast majority of FMIC owners would have been better off saving half that investment and putting into other things. In the reality of how these cars are being used, the primary driving factor for an FMIC is ego, not performance. A want...not a need.

Absolutely, I didn't say not to modify sensativity, just be careful that the reason your the doesn't see knock is because its eyes are closed.

The ets is still a bit better but considering the cobb is keeping the charcoal filter its no surprise

What year/model and what tune?

@@WT4T 2016 wrx base manual , maperformance stage 1 93 octane

Feel free to send a datalog and mod list to willtunefortacos@gmail.com apart from data there's too many variables

Sure, send one over!

That's a great question, sadly I have no idea

@@WT4T Lol no worries thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it, also awesome video.

I'll see if I can get a hold of the customer and find out

@@WT4T Awesome thanks a lot I really appreciate it.

We offer OTS tunes and custom etunes for these cars. Contact us at willtunefortacos@gmail.com for more info

I'll be quickly expanding this selection of OTS maps. www.preracing.com/products/preracing-ots-stage-1-tune-fits-2022-2023-subaru-wrx?_pos=1&_sid=912d09324&_ss=r For etuning contact info@preracing.com

They are torque monsters but torque does break things, axles, clutch, Trans, diff, I try and keep them below 380ftlb unless by request.

FFS is shifting without lifting your foot off the accelerator pedal in order to keep the turbo from dropping out of boost. Some vehicles have the ability to activate a secondary rev limiter and reduce timing while you're doing this to reduce stress on the drivetrain.

@@WT4T thank you! Thats good to know

Yes?

Just categorizing modification groups. I make them more inclusive than most.

Are you a tuner? No. So what do you know…

I'm a tuner 🤷‍♂️

@@WT4T I was referring to that guy, lol. You’ll probably be my tuner when I mod my 23 wrx. 🫡

I should had been more specific on my comment. I mean when companies sell different stage packages. Not your tuning stages. Tuning stages makes a lot more sense when you're offering OTS tunes based off of mods. Those are specific to what you're tuning for. But companies selling stage packages is specific to them and not universal to everyone.