DYNO TESTING UNITRONIC FLEX FUEL RS3'S! STAGE 1 VS STAGE 2!!!

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After a few years of waiting, UniFLEX from Unitronic is finally here!!! I invited a Stage 1 & a Stage 2 RS3 to the dyno to see how much power they'd make at a few different ethanol content levels. We tested the following ethanol contents & fuels:
Shell 91 - 9% Ethanol
Shell 93 - 10% Ethanol
E30
E60
E85
A big thanks to Malia (@malia.leialoha) and to Mike for their support & for the usage of their RS3's! I know they are both ecstatic about now having the ability to run any ethanol blend from straight 91 octane fuel all the way up to straight E85!
All hardware installations are performed by Reiter Performance. For more information on their services please reach them at info@reiterperformance.com or check out reiterperformance.com/ for more details
All dyno testing is performed at Racing Greed located at 1650 Broadway St Unit 110, Port Coquitlam, BC V3C 6P8. They can be reached at rg@racinggreed.com or check out www.racinggreed.com/ for more details.
For any business inquiries please email me at adam@vancityaudi.com
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#audi #performance #flex
0:00 Intro
0:11 UniFLEX is Here!!!
0:30 What I'll Be Doing In This Video
1:57 UniFLEX Hardware Install
3:19 Meet Mike & His Stage 1 RS3
3:59 UniFLEX Stage 1 Dyno Testing
6:30 Meet Malia & Her Stage 2 RS3
8:11 UniFLEX Stage 2 Dyno Testing
10:48 Stage 1 VS Stage 2 Dyno Results
11:21 Thanks & Summary
11:46 The Difference Between Stage 1 & Stage 2
12:26 Outro

Пікірлер: 155

@unitronic 8 ай бұрын

Nice one Adam - Both cars seem to be performing very well. Hope Malia gets that 9 in spring! 💪

@NA-xz4wj 8 ай бұрын

Why are you racist against DNWAs? 😢 We want to run Unitflex too!

@unitronic 8 ай бұрын

@@NA-xz4wj Racist against an engine, that's a new one 😅 We don't get DNWA engines in North America so our Performance Software offerings are limited for them. Stage 1-2 tuning is available but we don't offer ethanol support hence the lack of UniFLEX availability.

@Stockish_Daza 5 ай бұрын

i am picking up an 18 rs3 tomorrow.... it is apr stage 1+ with intercooler, inlet, and intake... what all is required to swap to a uni flex setup? I would like to go stage 2 flex... are the upgraded injectors required? or just the uniflex stage 2 flex flash, and dp/mp?

@unitronic 5 ай бұрын

@@Stockish_Daza Hi there, you'll need the full Stage 2 bolt-ons including a Downpipe and MPI if you want to run ethanol. Once everything is in place, you can add the UniFLEX kit. Please get in touch with us directly for more information.

@chongorlz9716 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info. Appreciate your video!

@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

No problemo

@gandules06 4 ай бұрын

Just ordered my uniflex hardware and software. Can't wait to put it all together. Thanks Adam for another great educational video 💪

@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! Enjoy!

@gandules06 8 ай бұрын

Great video and info Adam. Currently FBO and running stage 2 unitronic ecu/tcu and anxiously awaiting to switch to ethanol. Car is running flawless and I was a little nervous about switching over but you made it an easier decision for me. Thank you. 👍🌽

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Absolutely nothing to be worried about. Dump in the ethanol and enjoy a TON more power!

@derekmartz4320 5 ай бұрын

Great video and good info!! It was a long 2 weeks but worth it! Had Stage 1+ E85 on car for a long time and now have the ability to travel further away from my E-85 zone without worries if I can't find ethanol.

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

Thanks, and I'm happy that you're enjoying your car even more now!

@raykor85 8 ай бұрын

This is awesome Adam, thank you! I just got uniflex on my stage3 IMS750 '20 RS3. would love to see Dyno figures on that on pump vs E85.

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Coming right up!!! Stay tuned!

@raykor85 8 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi awesome! Looking forward to it

@sickofthelies99 4 ай бұрын

Curious Raykor did you lose your exhaust crackle/overrun (pops and bangs)? Running Stage 3 8V 93oct FLEX / UNIFLEX / TTE700 / BUILT ENGINE / UNI inj / UNI 4 BAR MAP SENSORS / IROZ LPFP / 7800rpm rev limit / 4000rpm LC / Rolling Anti-Lag Enabled / rev11fA - **HIGH SPEED LOGGING ENABLED. Unitronic has been slow to get back to me.

@derrickgarcia303 8 ай бұрын

Awesome comparison

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@briansaxon 8 ай бұрын

Great video!

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@shadvaira3231 8 ай бұрын

Thanks man UniFlex is next for me

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@andybai5168 7 ай бұрын

Amazing informative video Adam. I drive a B9 S5 Sportback. Recently I just moved to BC from Montreal, Quebec for a new job promo and back there I used to run Costco 91 before I tuned my car to a Stage 2 93 file. Since then I only ran 94 from Petro-Canada because it's the only compatible one in QC and eastern Ontario (say Ottawa/Cornwall). Sometimes I used Esso 91 during roadtrips as well, but Costco's 91 was still quite good and saved me some money. For now Chevron 94 is doing its thing and the car runs smoothly. I'm surprised that Petro-CAN doesn't do 94 in BC (currently only in ON/QC/AB) Thank you. Merci.

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

You're going to want to watch this video before you fill up with Chevron 94 again: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mbeRp7Gqtb_Zc30.html

@andybai5168 7 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi Yeah my bad was typing the comments on my phone but posted to the wrong video lol. Sorry. Don't mind me as a dumb Quebecer.

@MichelLopez 8 ай бұрын

Amazing video!!!!!!!!!

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@MichelLopez 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi I hope to see lower torque file stage 3 TTE700..

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@MichelLopez what they have available is all they're making. They won't be touching that tune any more.

@MichelLopez 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi ok. I was thinking on TTE700 UniFlex file.

@NA-xz4wj 8 ай бұрын

Great video as always Adam! Very interesting to see Uni Stage 1 vs Stage 2 and how little a downpipes adds. Also e60 vs e85 was a surprising gain too. With your influence can you get John Staffi to work on the DNWA tunes? We are missing out! 😢

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Lmao, if I had that kind of influence this software would have been made available years ago. What I think you're missing is the fact that additional power is available throughout the ENTIRE powerband. Not just peak power being 10whp more. That makes a massive difference.

@JordieG8 8 ай бұрын

Generally E40 is where you’re going to get the biggest gain. E40 is where you get 90% of the octane benefits. After that it’s mostly heat of vaporization that you’re benefiting from, but even that is non linear based on content. E40 is a great street mix. A huge chunk of the benefits without many of the drawbacks.

@BickfordsRs3 8 ай бұрын

I need this!

@cdrbews 4 ай бұрын

Not gonna lie i had a hell of a time getting the stock fuel fitting off to install my uniflex kit.

@mowse12 8 ай бұрын

Great video Adam! Been running UniFLEX stage 1 for almost a month now, wish I had it at Pacific Waterland, but oh well. Quick question for you, how are they getting the E85 display on the dash? I thought that was a DS1 tuning feature.

@BoostingSnail 8 ай бұрын

When flashed with a Unitronic FLEX enabled ECU calibration, when the cruise control is set to the OFF position, the factory power gauge will now show ethanol content percentage. Best of all, cruise control functionality remains unaffected and the power gauge works like stock, showing engine power when the cruise control is turned on and/or engaged.

@mowse12 8 ай бұрын

@BoostingSnail thanks! More info I didn't know about for this tune! LOL!

@davidrojas9633 7 ай бұрын

Great video Adam. Will uniflex work with a fuel it ethanol sensor or does it have to be replaced?

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

The Continental ethanol sensor that came with your Fuel-It kit is pretty much the same one that comes with the UniFLEX kit. You'd simply disconnect your Bluetooth adapter for your Fuel-It kit and plug in the UniFLEX hardware.

@cdrbews 8 ай бұрын

@vancityaudi Great video im about to do a stage one tune on my rs3. With the uniflex do you need to fash the ecu first with the obd cable or can you do it with the uniflex

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

I go over that in the video when I show & and discuss the installation.

@scottc78 8 ай бұрын

Uniflex is purely the hardware and the Bluetooth phone app. Until you pay for the additional software, all it will do is display on the phone app and that's all. After tuning it'll display on dash and adjust for E levels.

@leechavarie4675 8 ай бұрын

Great video Adam ! Stage 1 car did he change spark plugs ? Does this tune have the rolling antilag ?

@pollorobot69 8 ай бұрын

Rolling Antilag + Rattle WG Fix

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

He upgraded to the NGK's that Unitronic recommends.

@91whiteda9 8 ай бұрын

I would love to see a stage 2 file ran on stock downpipe to see if it's the extra flow from not having a catalytic converter or added timing.

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

I'd suggest you try that with your own car then. I would never try that on this channel, seeing as a Stage 2 tune is only meant for cars with an upgraded downpipe and not safe to run with a stock downpipe.

@rastaph 8 ай бұрын

That is a strong stage 1 car. I would have never guessed it would be that close to a stage 2 at full E85.

@pollorobot69 8 ай бұрын

The most notable difference between stage 1 and 2 is the downpipe

@rastaph 8 ай бұрын

@@pollorobot69 and higher flow MPI injectors.

@pollorobot69 8 ай бұрын

yes yes I had forgotten@@rastaph

@scottc78 8 ай бұрын

Stage 1 can vary though, I bet a stock intake, turbo inlet, and intercooler on the same tune would have been a considerable amount less power. Turbo can't even hit target boost on the stock intake pipe.

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

@@scottc78 I bet you're right. The fact he was running additional bolt on parts helped make more power than if he was simply using stock hardware.

@derrickgarcia303 7 ай бұрын

Would love to see draggy comparison between these two cars.

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

We already discuss their 1/4 mile times in the video.

@iiChromEo 8 ай бұрын

Could someone please enlighten me: I was always under the impression that tq was the real killer on these cars (hence why custom tuners try to cap the tq lower than the Uni S2E85 file). I considered Uni’s Stage 1 E85 to be relatively safe since the advertised tq is 528 lb ft. Uni’s S2E85 is advertised at 564 lb ft which I’ve associated with being a bit more risky. Seeing the S2 uniflex car do a 534 wtq makes me question whether Uni has addressed the high tq complaints (or if wtq is different than their advertised numbers on their site). Long story short: is stage 2 uniflex at E85 safer than running their dedicated E85 tune?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

What you're forgetting is every single dyno will read differently depending on a million and one factors. Ambient temperature, density altitude, elevation, heat soak, IAT's, fuel used, type of dyno used, calibration of said dyno and more, lol. Just like I mentioned in the video, they made what appeared to be very high numbers because the conditions we tested in were amazing for making power. I showcase uncorrected numbers on this channel, so they aren't corrected and turned down when it's really cold out, or turned up when it's really hot out.

@phiL_2022 7 ай бұрын

At what point of whp/wtq do you enter the zone of potentially needing a built motor? Bought an 18 rs3 last year and kinda want to know the limits on the stock motor!

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

Depending on who you talk to, they'll all tell you different things. Also depending on the dyno you'll see & hear different things. I say nothing more than 520-540wtq. I recommend anyone running a hybrid turbo or larger on ethanol, needs to build their motor except on this turbo which was specifically made to run well on a stock motor.

@scottc78 8 ай бұрын

I have my Uniflex all set up on my '18 RS3. Few things to note, Unitronic always told me that Stage 1+ E85 was basically the same power from E60-E85. Which may be true for the regular tune, but apparently not for Uniflex. I'm currently on the stage 1+ uniflex so I shouldn't go below 93. And the upgraded port injectors are required for stage 2 as well. I'd like to find out how the rolling anti-lag works, cuz so far it seems to act the same as always.

@rastaph 8 ай бұрын

From Unitronic: ADDITIONAL FEATURE ADDED - ROLLING ANTI LAG By popular request, Unitronic is also proud to announce the addition of Rolling Anti Lag (RAL) into these new FLEX enabled calibrations. FUNCTION USAGE: Turn cruise control ON, but not activated. Hold down cruise control stalk downwards (decrease speed, -), then go wide open throttle WOT. You can do this with your left fingers, while both hands are on the steering wheel with ease. PRECONDITIONS FOR FUNCTION TO BE ACTIVE: 70degC coolant temp minimum threshold, more than 1000rpm engine speed, more than 30kph vehicle speed, and more than 45% throttle position. The function will be activated for 6 seconds maximum and can't be re-activated for 15 seconds refresh time. This function is very hard on the engine and its components - IT IS NOT FOOL PROOF. It's easy to melt an engine to the ground with it. Use it wisely and at your own peril.

@scottc78 8 ай бұрын

@@rastaph awesome, thanks! That sounds fun yet kinda terrifying at the same time lol

@rastaph 8 ай бұрын

@@scottc78 yeah, I don’t want to melt my RS3s engine. 😳🤣

@scottc78 8 ай бұрын

@@rastaph I mean, I'm definitely going to try it haha. I just won't use it for more than 2 seconds.

@rastaph 8 ай бұрын

@@scottc78 be extra careful if you have a catalytic downpipe. The cat would be the first to melt. And they aren’t cheap to replace.

@dash-kt7uf 8 ай бұрын

Are there any gains in the new software vs old software for stage 2 E85? Or is it just convenience? Thaniks

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

Convenience

@dash-kt7uf 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Adam

@kylewatson9626 5 ай бұрын

Interesting to see how close they were. I have a '20 RS3 with downpipe/midpipe.4" turbo inlet + CAI, and unitronic intercooler. Currently on a Uni Stage 1+ ECM and Stage 2 DSG tune. Wanting to go flex fuel and I was going to get a stage 2 tune and the flex fuel kit but now it seems like it isnt worth it and i should just get the flex fuel kit and stay on the Stage 1+

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

I guess you were watching a different video than I was. You make more horsepower & more torque through the entire powerband running a Stage 2 setup.

@kylewatson9626 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi right but only a difference of 10 wheel and 20 torque, is it really worth it when it comes to price to pay for flex kit and tune vs just the flex kit. I also have a few more supporting mods than the car that was on stage 1 so I would assume my stage 1 on E might even be a little closer than the stage 1 in the video

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@kylewatson9626 what I don't think you're appreciating is the difference of 10whp & 23wtq at peak, but the ENTIRE powerband is higher. To put that in perspective for you, a weight reduced RS3 ran an 10.7 @ 127mph on Stage 1+ E85. A weight reduced Stage 2 E85 RS3 ran a 10.2 @ 134mph. It makes a huge difference overall having more power & torque through the entire powerband and not just at the peak levels.

@danielmchugh8231 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the great content! I am curious, I thought the stock rods couldn’t handle more than 500 WTQ? Or it is not safe after that. Seems like the power is very strong.

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

You'd be wrong. Before experienced tuners had more and more time developing software for these motors, that was the generalized figure thrown around. There are a TON of Unitronic tuned RS3's and TTRS's out there making over 500wtq and are without issue. On most Dynojet dynos that I've seen, stock turbo DAZA's make up to 540wtq and have zero issues. All dynos read differently as well. If I showed Mustang numbers in this video, the power & torque figures would have been MUCH lower.

@danielmchugh8231 7 ай бұрын

Thanks. I guess its always confusing because there are all types of communications surrounding what the TQ figures are safe for stock rods.

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

@danielmchugh8231 I can see it being SUPER confusing because there is SO much incorrect information spread throughout the community. Seems like most of the time only 20% of the people actually know what they're talking about.

@danielmchugh8231 7 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi Thank you for all that you do for the community. Appreciate the feedback.

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

@@danielmchugh8231no problemo

@jimmymcgoo8641 7 ай бұрын

How much more reliable do you think a stage 2 RS3 is versus a stage 3 B9 S4/5?

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

At this present time I'd say a Stage 2 RS3 is MUCH more reliable than a Stage 3 S4/S5. Especially when running ethanol.

@chongorlz9716 4 ай бұрын

What kind of torque can these cars handle stock block?

@VancityAudi 4 ай бұрын

Most people go with a 500-520ft/lb, but we've consistently seen these stock motors handle more than that on this dyno. Considering every dyno reads differently, it's incredibly hard to say.

@youngrios 7 ай бұрын

Will there be more mk8 gti content?

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

There will be a TON of Mk8 content coming up. I had some issues that set me back, but I'll be diving into it soon again.

@brandonteege4180 8 ай бұрын

There has to be more done to the black RS3 in terms of weight etc to be running a 10.03 on stage 2 e85 software. My car sits the same and the best I ever did was a 10.8 with a 1.7 60ft

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

The interior was removed on lightweight wheels & radials. Nothing special.

@Hudson-jq7ks 5 ай бұрын

Does the Haldex controller make that much of a difference? If only trapping at 135 for 10.03 it must 60’ great. I’m only at a 10.6 trapping 133 on cup 2’s. Guessing she’s on dr2’s with the Haldex controller and getting a 1.5 or better 60’ launching at 4000 rpm?

@brandonteege4180 5 ай бұрын

@@Hudson-jq7ks I also trapped 133 on my 10.8, with lightweight wheels, dp, intake, turbo inlet, 529 driveshaft, uni dogbone, intercooler. I just really don’t see how interior removed is gaining .8 in the 1/4

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@Hudson-jq7ks it makes an insane difference. She cut 1.45 - 1.47's all day, every day. I also show how it well it works here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7yYmtuVrNe5f4U.html

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@@brandonteege4180 you're probably also forgetting about the ambient conditions we race in here too. We are at sea level here with a low DA. That, and she has me coaching her on how to get the most out of her car.

@voytekl2407 8 ай бұрын

Does stage 1 car need upgraded injectors?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

I go through what is needed to run these tunes in the video.

@fzr1000981 8 ай бұрын

When is this available for 8Y?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

The ECU on the 8Y hasn't even been unlocked, let alone tunes been made for it.

@rsdbikes3067 7 ай бұрын

Very curious on the conditions the Stage 1 car ran 10.9... I've got similar bolt ons, plus catless downpipes. Not sure the E content i used (added 7L of E85 to a half tank of Pump 94) and best time was 11.26 at 122.73 MPH DA679ft running on PS4S. That was May 2023 and tried all season to best it, without luck, even after getting Hankook RS4 tires. Any thoughts?

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

There's a million and one conditions that come into play when trying to optimize your RS3 for a 1/4 mile time. Ambient conditions, elevation, temperature, density altitude, how well your car is actually working (did you log your car to make sure it was running at 100%), your tire pressures, if on track the track prep and on and on and on.

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

Your car is also a Stage 2 car if you're using a catless downpipe.

@rsdbikes3067 7 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi Thanks. First year drag racing. learning something every time i go. I don't have upgraded injectors. I guess, how much E85 is acceptable to a add to pump gas?

@VancityAudi 7 ай бұрын

@rsdbikes3067 good thing you let me know you're new to drag racing, I can never tell from comments. First concern is that you're running an upgraded downpipe already. Why have you not upgraded to a Stage 2 tune? Stage 1 tunes are meant for an OEM downpipe. Secondly, I don't recommend going higher than a 20% ethanol blend on a pump gas tune. Thirdly, I don't recommend you blend in additional pump gas without an actual ethanol gauge installed so you can see what content level you're at.

@rsdbikes3067 7 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi I appreciate the inputs. Honestly, i never felt like i needed to go full Stage 2, as it's still my daily driver

@pollorobot69 8 ай бұрын

Mustang Dyno Is No Link Roller?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

It is linked

@muskytuned 8 ай бұрын

It is linked. The rear tires are between 2 rollers and the front tires are on 1 roller alone, so the tire deformation will be slightly different from front to back

@razerone49 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for reviewing these. Quick note though, have you seen Charlie Brown? Bro your large face and round head are proportions right out of Charlie Brown

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

If I had a dog named Snoppy and Charlie Brown had a beard then maybe.

@cernim 8 ай бұрын

Black car ran 10.03 on what fuel?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

E70

@michaelrizzo9419 5 ай бұрын

Now they can focus all their effort on the 8Y tune. The first tuner to hack the box gets 2 years of pent up demand…..

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

Hate to break it to ya, but the tuners aren't the ones that hack or crack the ECU's. When a company/individual figures out how to unlock them, they then sell the ability to do so to all of the tuners.

@michaelrizzo9419 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi yeah, was a little tongue in cheek, I’m thinking the over under is mid 2025 (about 3 years in) for the tunes to be released. I just got my 2024 and will have to patient for a bit. Great channel- keep up the awesome content.

@Stockish_Daza 5 ай бұрын

so from this video.. im thinking uni stage 1+ flex.... rather than the full stage 2 flex to save some money. Then invest the left over into the iroz syvecs haldex controller and light weight wheels and good tires, then go full stage 2 flex with mpi injectors after my pockets recover

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

This sounds absolutely perfect

@Stockish_Daza 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi any difference in dyno with the catless uni mid pipes or purely sound?

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@@Stockish_Dazamidpipes are purely a sound mod

@Stockish_Daza 5 ай бұрын

@@VancityAudi whats your opinion on the KW has? Car i bought has h&r sports and i hate them

@VancityAudi 5 ай бұрын

@DarkJuggalo86 I've never used them, but have heard good things. H&R springs suck in my opinion.

@marcmann982 6 ай бұрын

Sooo.. moral of the story, if you're not already stage 2 just go full bolt on stage one e85 flex until you decide to go stage 3 LOL

@barryswrx 8 ай бұрын

He ran 10.9 on 93 stage 1 only?

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

That's what he said!

@chrisradivonyk4357 8 ай бұрын

Had to be E85. I haven't seen an RS3 trap higher than 120-122 and usually around 11.2-11.4

@techking231 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisradivonyk4357in optimal conditions it happens.

@VancityAudi 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisradivonyk4357he was running the Stage 1+ 93 octane tune. I was there.

@NA-xz4wj 8 ай бұрын

@@chrisradivonyk4357 these guys tend to run a splash of ethanol in the tank on the 93 tune. See Adams other videos for the gains e20 makes on a 93 tune.