Tom Pulling the old panel was falling apart piece by piece with replacement instruments incredibly expensive, not to mention down time. It is so nice to fly with accurate instruments and flight is not cancelled because of broken equipment. If you want round gages press a button it’s there and easy to read. I’m very happy with the results.

I was just thinking that it would go nice in another plane 😁

only a student, but it seems to me ,if you have a electrical problem, you loose everything,, no backup,,,or,,,do you need one,,,,

@@Vito_A_LabellaI personally would much rather fly on an aircraft with 2 different sources of information coming in.

@@Vito_A_Labella, the video specifically mentioned a battery backup to the HDX and the PFD to the left of the HDX.

Nice.

talk about putting all your digital eggs in a single basket. A single display away from flying by the seat of your pants. While it does look sexy and a little busy, a backup AS, VS and maybe HSI would be nice.

Because they are not as good as modern avionics. Solid state stuff with integration for gps, battery backup, etc, is awesome.

@@fadedflage My thinking has evolved closer to your point of view in the year or so since I posted my first comment above.

In the video, the said they shaved off 35 lbs. The cost is probably closer to 45k.

Why do you want to buy new of anything, especially aircraft which has high depreciation.

You've gotta have a self powered backup. Look at the left side.

YES

Stefenski it's like the Garmin g5 self powered too.

It isn't cool anymore, so, ...no.

@@drteknical6571 Old timers, as in other fields, difficulty in adapting to new and better technologies, but to each his own. I am old timer, but I am all in on Digital. Within a few years, like the Victrola, analog guages gone.

You would have the GTN650 and the EFIS D10A.

The small unit to the left of the big screen is a separate backup with altitude, heading, airspeed, artificial horizon, rate of climb, etc.

Nah, the STC includes removing the vacuum system. Out with it all...

AVweb With that mindset why still have a fluid compass? Also, there could be an electric with battery backup directional gyro, no vacuum system needed.

I think weight can become a concern too?

@@AVweb Are you saying the STC REQUIRES the complete removal of older instruments when glass is installed. Ridiculous to not have backup, when there is plenty of room for it.

@@drteknical6571 Add another Dynon panel. Move into the future. Sooner or later it will be here regardless.

Most likely just a sheet of aluminum with cutouts made.

That is like $200-400 nothin in the scheme of things. Just laser cut Alum.

@@gusbisbal9803 You wish. When I redid my panel, we did a powder coated one and it was $4000.

@@gusbisbal9803 And the sub-panel is another $1200

@@cscinc I am a fabricator and work for a laser cutting place. It just isn't that expensive. Ok here is how you know. Ever had a set of selves that are sheet metal and power coated? They are about $600. They are WAY bigger than the panel, more complicated and with additional processes. If you buy it from cessna then yes its the cost of a small boat. But the part itself is cheap as hell.

There was a backup Dynon on the left side of the Skyview.

@@NoelJacobs ups, sry. Didn't see that.

Hi Bill. I have zero aircraft knowledge, but a lengthy career in consumer electronics, from the mid 1970's. I greatly respect what you are saying, but I ask why learn an old technology? I was one of the first to sell PC's with the Pentium chip back in 1993 to retailers. Both the retailer, and consumer had no use for understanding "Dual Pipeline", and all of the intricacies that this advanced technology had to offer. My approach was different from the manufacturers desire to get into all that- it was to show consumers how they can get the best from this new generation of chips. The standard, Feature (what it is) - Advantage (what it does) - Benefit (how that helps the end user). Sometimes we get comfortable with old technologies, and become novices ourselves with major advances. As a future Sports Pilot, I would rather spend my time learning all of the advantages of the Dynon equipment, and I am sure that would entail hundreds of hours. Imagine totally mastering the new technology, and being aware of what lies around the corner as well? I just wanted to offer my viewpoint here. Thanks so much! I wish I had your experience as a CFI. Good for you.

I think learning on the modern technology is better. Why learn something you are going to discard and then have to learn a brand new system. Safer to learn on what your going to fly. That being said most of us fly rentals. Most rentals are a six pack not glass. I can fly a older 172 for $125 verses a g1000 172 for $170 per hour. The plane doesn’t know the difference.

It's too costly for the owners, not the manufacturers. There are better planes than a 172. Cirrus is always adding something, but you have to dig down into your pockets to get a new one

They are going to stop making the Classic and SE soon, so they probably chose the most modern unit with the best bang for the buck.

@@chadcoady9025 that sucks.

Search up Dynon avionics, its cheap on their site! The guy in this video said it was around 38k

@@AIMLL is it certified and how much is the difference if I wanna just place experimental on a 150 ?

WHY YES WE ARE!

talkingbob You might join a different club 😂😂😂

This is the perfect metaphor.

volume is just not there for that pricing

Need new technology that hasn’t even been invented yet

operative word is "should" (60k should really buy - brand new? state of the art?) ...... you propose building a modern A/C and furnishing it with "state of the art equipment ............for 60k .... it would have to have a made in Bangladesh sticker on it ................ ;-p

@@cleburne-dfwseptic6843 that's a self fulfilling prophecy. A 172 is an awful plane from 1960. Nice car makers do 'super cars' for much less than a 'new' 172. Volume is a factor but so is sheepish mindlessness. When I say brand new state of the art plane, I'm certainly not talking about the awful 172.

The avionics includes an autopilot, ADS-B out, and engine monitoring, all things a tablet can't do.

Your tablet also isn't certified for any type of flight. It's reference only.

Sounds like someone needs to watch the video again!

@@tonyfdesign Joke's on you. I wasn't about to watch it the first time.

@@BrickyardGaming Guess what else was certified? The original instrument cluster. Not sure what your point is.

Sure we are-Anglisano's head was on a swivel and Van West even stated on camera he cleared the area. We were also working Boston approach control, but that's cut in the edit.

Wah,wah,wah. Net nanny showed up. Hahaha!n Karen!

@@videodistro Just look out the window!

a 172N is fundamentally no different than a 2019 version of the 172 other than the avionics. Much cheaper to upgrade an older airplane that has a good airframe. It will fly just as fast and most likely will have a better useful load

Thanks. Same here

I would say based on the age of the plane, it lost 35 lbs and then some. Observe the highly skilled IA learning as he goes with new technology. Remember the additional parts they tried to save, but eventually had to scrap? It adds up quickly. Another advantage for digital.

Well it cost 60 grand so not sure he did.

Dan Frederiksen considering the cost of the equipment and the length the airplane was in the shop, along with the 45-50k total for the install, pretty sure he did. But, what do I know? I only work for the largest avionics shop in the country

@@BrickyardGaming didn't he say it was 50k until they wanted some more and it was 10k more? so 60k. I guess you don't know much.

@@DanFrederiksen Did they really spend 60K on this avionics upgrade? No freaking way!

@@johncarr123 what it sounded like to me. I think he says 50 and then decided to spend 10k more.

It has battery backup on the back of the instruments. There is the backup artificial horizon. They pointed out that the new instruments detected issues with the pitot static system.

they got the larger of the 2 dynons

@@savethedeveloper Ah, ok... Somehow that size felt cramped to me... Just a few inches more would make all the difference...

It's called certification....

Ok

It has a standby.