E46 Double Vanos Seals DIY and Impressions

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Throttle House

Throttle House

7 жыл бұрын

Well, I finally did it. I hope you find this "mostly helpful" DIY, uh, helpful. This is only the "seals" fix and not the common "rattle." It's very long and not entertaining. Apologies in advance. Skip to the end to see my on-the-road impressions. Again, do your research don't rely only on one DIY for a job as detailed as this.
I got my seals from here: www.beisansystems.com/
Watch this for valve cover removal.. 50's Kid is a champion. • BMW 330i 325i E46 Valv...

Пікірлер: 101
@drewwilliams2272
@drewwilliams2272 7 жыл бұрын
"Things are going well so far, that's very rare", couldn't agree more especially on an e46
@3ManFunny
@3ManFunny 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAH
@kinpump4696
@kinpump4696 2 жыл бұрын
@@3ManFunny all u do is watch e46 videos all day 🤡
@3ManFunny
@3ManFunny 2 жыл бұрын
@@kinpump4696 .
@RCWatson
@RCWatson 7 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, the drive review at the end is spot on nobody has done that properly yet.
@WindlePoones
@WindlePoones 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent walkthrough and when to do summary. Thanks for all the hard work that went into this post.
@elihnyc
@elihnyc 6 ай бұрын
I used this, the 50s kids video and beisan instructions on their website to do this work. Perfect combination of sources. Beisan instructions have all the torque specs, and bolt/nut sizes.
@greeneyes7392
@greeneyes7392 5 жыл бұрын
I like how you take car out for drive post vanos service & give us your impressions 👍🏼👍🏼
@notorious1ace
@notorious1ace 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched the whole video yet, but I can defo say this maintanace task is 110% worth it. As far as I know, all dual vanos on all e46 use the same seals. I didn't leave my engine in time whilst I did it but it worked out brilliantly.
@bearded1derr
@bearded1derr 6 жыл бұрын
My car has the exact symptoms that you are talking about, thanks for this, i look forward to doing this DIY
@graemecooper3653
@graemecooper3653 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I am waiting for my rocker cover gasket to come in and I stumbled across this - now I have ordered the seal kit from I6 motorworks [usa] and will do the vanos also. I have done 164,000 Klm in my M54 B30 Z3 2001.
@kellyanderson7115
@kellyanderson7115 Жыл бұрын
Cool to know that it beefs up the low end torque! I have been thinking for quite a while now that to "soft" low end was normal. I had also convinced myself that if it needed fixing it would be setting engine codes, which appears not to be the case. I'm doing mine in the next few days.
@igorrdias
@igorrdias 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Looking forward for more maintenance videos!
@CableWrestler
@CableWrestler 7 жыл бұрын
Nice tutorial man! I've had my rebuild kit sat in a drawer for ages; I was too scared to attempt it
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+CableWrestler it's actually not that bad. Just keep everything organized
@capicapuchino5675
@capicapuchino5675 3 жыл бұрын
Good Video pretty straight forward DIY just waiting on my part to come in
@pablogomez1379
@pablogomez1379 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for share this magnific knowledge. Do you check your DME/ECU software version any time? Just to know.. I was reading about big differences/improvements between old and new versions. By the way, since I have my Carly Scanner, I constantly measure the trims values (STFT/LTFT) with and without CAI... I suggest do it too. Cheers from Argentina
@wristgameicyyoufeelme6751
@wristgameicyyoufeelme6751 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video, super helpful dude✊️👌
@migelprager1097
@migelprager1097 3 жыл бұрын
I 'd love to see James doing this DIY! :D .
@gedis5038
@gedis5038 7 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man keep it up.
@ioanliviu22
@ioanliviu22 Жыл бұрын
Great to know it’s worth it, thanks for the „after“
@danl4222
@danl4222 4 жыл бұрын
Your review at the end was very helpful. Our 1st BMW is a used 2004 (150K) E46 sedan. . interior & exterior cream puff .. but we felt it a little under powered, especially in teh low ranges. Many tell us we need the official Siemens MAF .. (not an import) to correct that. But when we recently picked up the same model in a 2 door, the engine was much stronger in the 2500 RPM range (as you mentioned). So I think we'll try the Vanos rebuild.. Not sure i need the needles either. Some say yes some say no. .. What is your opinion?
@MarcelHVAC
@MarcelHVAC 6 жыл бұрын
Very good video, thank you for that sir!
@msubtech84
@msubtech84 4 жыл бұрын
Did you throw the VANOS piston housing caps (or whatever they are called) back on without gaskets?
@TheHeretic435
@TheHeretic435 3 жыл бұрын
Now this is the throttle house I remember. The spring compressor broke when doing struts on the E39. Waiting a new one. Sunlight fading. Pissed off.
@DEEuroworks
@DEEuroworks 4 жыл бұрын
P0369 B keeps coming back, there is correct voltage at the plug, tried out few different sensors (for sure a working one from another E46) can these seals cause the p0369 to come back? Thanks. 160k miles on the car.
@lisakaiser4601
@lisakaiser4601 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly which are the 'six bolts that you mentioned needed removing?'
@dallasdunaway6479
@dallasdunaway6479 5 жыл бұрын
What was your approximate mileage when you did this? I’ve got a 528i with 180k and my seals are leaking.
@FlightDeckGA
@FlightDeckGA 5 жыл бұрын
Is this for the M54 engine?
@Win8pc
@Win8pc 7 жыл бұрын
cant wait to do this on my zhp, the rattle is bad but some more low end torque would be nice too. I also considered dr. vanos but it sounds like diying for the rattle is really the best way to do it since each car has a different amount of play in it.
@hagrdan
@hagrdan 6 жыл бұрын
my 2003 zhp was horrible before this fix. 130k miles. i think it's much more sensitive to the seal hardening/wear. the original seals were very loose in the cylinders. I also replaced bearings and sanded the rings to have a little preload (~3 ft-lbs torque required to turn them; they will loosen up). Unfortunately I still have a little rattle on cold startup but no rattle while driving anymore. the car really feels young again, very happy I did this. To compare, I did my s52 at 150k and original seals were still snug; I saw no difference in driving.
@androot69
@androot69 4 жыл бұрын
...but how do I know I need to change them? any way to test it?
@MitsCooKieHH
@MitsCooKieHH 7 жыл бұрын
Called it, next you'll need to do the CCV. My CCV didn't work at all so the engine wasn't getting vacuum. Got alot more top end HP back after I got a new CCV. Also my brake pedal became much more stiff because of the vacuum.
@HarleyN93
@HarleyN93 7 жыл бұрын
top end hp from a ccv? the oil separator?waaaaaaaaa
@MitsCooKieHH
@MitsCooKieHH 7 жыл бұрын
Yes my ccv was totally broken so the crankcase and valvetrain didnt operate under vacuum. Making things move in a vacuum requiers way less energy.
@Caged_Nightmares
@Caged_Nightmares 6 жыл бұрын
Superman how did you get rid of ccv
@OKay-gv9cg
@OKay-gv9cg 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a professional mechanic, however I'm pretty sure there are gaskets under both piston covers.. In addition to the gasket that runs along the bottom "half" (side closest to the bolts). I've also heard all gaskets should be replaced, ideally, any time the torque of a seal changes, although may not be necessary EVERY time.. I appreciate correction of any errors, I would hate to pass on bad info. Great video overall, cheers.
@dkk7307
@dkk7307 7 жыл бұрын
Any plans for a turbo?
@elvinnovruzov5775
@elvinnovruzov5775 5 жыл бұрын
What was the symptoms? how do i know it's vanos that cause the problem?
@MSchumacherfan
@MSchumacherfan 5 жыл бұрын
How many miles or years before these need replacement?
@kalyanpetrov6179
@kalyanpetrov6179 6 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you change the bearings?
@Ultimatebeatdastreet
@Ultimatebeatdastreet 6 жыл бұрын
Hello. Really nice video! Just a question, Is any special tool needed to proper replace vanos piston seals? What I mean is, isn't possile to interfer with the correct valve timing using regular tools? Thank you very much!
@scottstewart1420
@scottstewart1420 5 жыл бұрын
No tool needed.. just don't turn anything..
@authenthuse5165
@authenthuse5165 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Now I want to rebuild VANOS on my my 525iT. But perhaps CCV is needed more urgently at the moment :(
@iidrippyjaidonii3565
@iidrippyjaidonii3565 6 жыл бұрын
AuthEnthuse 528
@victorh5174
@victorh5174 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video, very inspiring. Have you noticed further improvements after the VANOS job? I heard after 500miles, the torque gets even better, as it has then really broken in....
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+Vic blahhh well I'm sure I would have. But I kinda blew my engine.
@victorh5174
@victorh5174 7 жыл бұрын
oh shit 😣
@diasporaman5419
@diasporaman5419 6 жыл бұрын
Victory really?
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 7 жыл бұрын
Canadian flannel. Nice :) Did your secondary air injection pump work properly? Have you sold it?
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+computiNATEor oh it was fine. It was just dead weight. And ugly
@austigm3888
@austigm3888 7 жыл бұрын
nice vid
@ranman1842
@ranman1842 2 жыл бұрын
Throttle house I know this is a pretty old post... but can you verify the milage on the car you shot the video?
@jasonl5589
@jasonl5589 7 жыл бұрын
Damn. never let us down. Great video Have you done PCV!? Let's DO EEEEEETT
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
Ugh. Dreading that. Honestly might just go right to a catch can.
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see that video, too, as my M54B30 could probably use a new CCV or catch can setup soon.
@zee6100
@zee6100 7 жыл бұрын
What seals would you recommend? Beisan systems ?
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+Za Ba that's what I bought and no issues yet.
@larsbrodin7890
@larsbrodin7890 6 жыл бұрын
I only got an K&N replacement filter for the airbox and that is a huge diffrence to the perfomance. I've heard that if you get a clone filter instead of the airbox youre gonna destroy the airflow sensor that wolfram sensor will go bad and break.
@tboodman
@tboodman 7 жыл бұрын
Do you still use the Sprint Booster? How has it held up if you do?
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+dude same it has held up fine. I'll be using it a lot this summer
@computiNATEor
@computiNATEor 7 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this in conjunction with a lightweight flywheel to make it a bit more drivable?
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+computiNATEor i suppose it would help with that little loss of torque. But not necessary.
@sp4nrs
@sp4nrs 5 жыл бұрын
I did a 3.2kg lightweight flywheel from RHD Engineering in my E36 328i. Made the car so much better, the acceleration difference was night and day
@luisipod1
@luisipod1 5 жыл бұрын
so you dont need a tool to hold the timing chain in place for this DIY?
@BrettNoack
@BrettNoack 5 жыл бұрын
No you don't, as your not removing the chain sprockets. But try not to crank the engine with the vanos removed.
@mdomz7691
@mdomz7691 7 жыл бұрын
Did you need to lock your cam or fly wheel?
@brockpeterson7688
@brockpeterson7688 7 жыл бұрын
mark domza No need to lock anything down. The VANOS bolts don't have much torque on them. And don't forget the left handed threads!
@lonerider5315
@lonerider5315 2 жыл бұрын
Well I’ll be damn, are we reviewing some cogs and gears?
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc 2 жыл бұрын
For anybody else doing this, it does take around 200-300 km for the new seals to bed in and the improvements to maximize. I am about to do mine - experiencing struggling at low revs and poor fuel economy.
@W4mboL0gie
@W4mboL0gie Жыл бұрын
I have just done mine and now the idle is not that smooth. I can feel slight vibrations in the cabin. I cleared all adaptions with BMW INPA and dont get any error codes. Could this also be normal behaviour until theyre broken in or should i be worried?
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc Жыл бұрын
@@W4mboL0gie Did you also clean out the VANOS solenoids? Also, check your INPA fuel trims after a few miles - you might have created a vac leak.
@W4mboL0gie
@W4mboL0gie Жыл бұрын
@@JMUDoc I didn't actually do the whole thing myself. I bought a used but rebuilt VANOS unit with new gaskets from beisan systems and the anti rattle kit. So I would expect the solenoids to be in good working order. I'm not quite sure what values in INPA i should be looking at exactly and what values to expect. I'm not a mechanic and also not that experienced. I will try to look into it but I appreciate any advice. Thank you!!
@JMUDoc
@JMUDoc Жыл бұрын
@@W4mboL0gie Drive it around for a few days, then have the engine running while monitoring the "absregelung" section - watch what happens to the "lambda integrator" values at idle and as you increase the revs. If they go from highly positive, to zero, there is a vacuum leak.
@W4mboL0gie
@W4mboL0gie Жыл бұрын
@@JMUDoc Will try that, ty 👍
@joejauregui4198
@joejauregui4198 7 жыл бұрын
At what mileage did you do the seals??
@ThrottleHouse
@ThrottleHouse 7 жыл бұрын
+joe jauregui 170k km
@MyRcGoSlow
@MyRcGoSlow 4 жыл бұрын
I have eerroe code p0011 would vanos rebuid help with the code ? Advance camshaft timing
@garymendoza6947
@garymendoza6947 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get this figured out? Have the same code
@PRAGEETHKARUNADHEERA
@PRAGEETHKARUNADHEERA 2 жыл бұрын
This would make the car more efficient (fuel-wise) too.
@evanfinch4987
@evanfinch4987 5 жыл бұрын
Everything you want from a how to.
@mirzha001
@mirzha001 5 жыл бұрын
I have like no oil pressure on my exhaust cam apparently because mine took a poo p0014 still after I did sensor actuator and solenoid ........
@SDKwarrior
@SDKwarrior 6 жыл бұрын
is this worth doing on a 2004 325i 5 speed i bought for 2 grand? it has little cosmetic things wrong with it but im not sure if it is even worth the time to fix this or just sell it asap
@sidewayzmike
@sidewayzmike 6 жыл бұрын
Pay a bmw independent shop an hour labor, to just go over the whole car, and check it over. If it needs tires, brakes, suspension overhaul, nuked cutch, leaking fluids...you will then have to make the call on doing this repair....trust me, get professionals to look at it, that specialise in these cars, not a tom dick n harry gas station...
@ravsinghrajput2105
@ravsinghrajput2105 4 жыл бұрын
You have American🇺🇸 and British accent interchangibly 🤣
@mrearly2
@mrearly2 3 жыл бұрын
I think he's Canadian.
@baims8367
@baims8367 5 жыл бұрын
That's what see said hahaha
@tspark1071
@tspark1071 3 жыл бұрын
If the reason of rattle noise is the seals and rings aroubd the pistons inside the vanos, the bmw's design is very absurd and the technology level is also poor. They are to blame, in terms of serviceability and maintenace reliability at least. Not very interested in german cars anymore
@markhammer9975
@markhammer9975 Жыл бұрын
A
@paulkile9998
@paulkile9998 Жыл бұрын
It always makes me shudder with the majority of these KZfaq DIY videos...why doesn't anyone clean the assemblies before reinstallation? The outside of that VANOS unit was FILTHY when it was reinstalled! I ALWAYS clean every part thoroughly before reassembly.
@junaidgt90
@junaidgt90 5 жыл бұрын
Having difficulty saying VANOS coz i have just watched Avengers End Game. 🙊
@diasporaman5419
@diasporaman5419 6 жыл бұрын
Should be wearing latex gloves bra
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