Early 8-Bit Sound Digitizers

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00:00 - Intro
01:00 - SFX Sound Sampler
05:26 - Covox Voicemaster (Commodore 64)
16:17 - Covox Voicemaster (Apple IIc)
18:43 - Covox Voicemaster (Laser 128)
19:24 - Final thoughts and story about Dr.Who and Red Dwarf

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@Zerbey
@Zerbey 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to your daughter for going along with her nerdy Dad's weird experiments, she sings far better than the computer hums along!
@serraramayfield9230
@serraramayfield9230 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be surprised if she has choir experience, though I don't know how long she's been in school so I don't really have a way of judging
@Nekulturny
@Nekulturny 2 жыл бұрын
Shes definitely brave, thats not an easy song to sing.
@HOLLASOUNDS
@HOLLASOUNDS 2 жыл бұрын
She grow up with it and has been in 8bits videos several times over the years.
@stuehleruecker
@stuehleruecker 2 жыл бұрын
She can sing much better as many "professional" singers that are paid for singing. Paid a lot.
@Hotlog69
@Hotlog69 2 жыл бұрын
"but dad, I don't want to sing in front of the nerds!"
@idjles
@idjles 2 жыл бұрын
“Stay awhile, stay forever” was mind blowing when I first heard it. I couldn’t imagine how the computer made it.
@josephschembri4811
@josephschembri4811 2 жыл бұрын
"Another visitor. Stay awhile... Stay forever!". That introduction gave me chills every time.
@MegaFonebone
@MegaFonebone Жыл бұрын
As a kid, I kept making the character fall down the hole over and over just so I could hear the scream. For some reason I thought it was hilarious.
@cnnpp4428
@cnnpp4428 Жыл бұрын
AaaaaaaaaAaaAAAaaaahhHHhhh
@niko5008
@niko5008 Жыл бұрын
@@MegaFonebone it sounds a person going "a." but slowed down lmao
@turbochargedsports6327
@turbochargedsports6327 Жыл бұрын
WHAT game is that from? I'm drawing a total blank & I used to play that game all the time.
@CharlieRG20
@CharlieRG20 Жыл бұрын
​@@turbochargedsports6327 impossible mission
@EricHerboso
@EricHerboso 2 жыл бұрын
The person who made the Voice Harp Recorder program (the humming one), Donald X. Vaccarino, is also the board game designer behind the massively popular game Dominion. It was neat to see his name in the credits at 13:23. He also wrote the manual: "I originally wrote a funny manual for that program. And they laughed and laughed but said, well obviously this joke and this joke have got to go. So I edited them out and made whatever other changes and they proofread it again and said, oh hey we can't really have this joke or this joke. After four or fives passes of this I went through and removed all of the jokes. They were sad and the manual was done."
@JavaJack59
@JavaJack59 2 жыл бұрын
Wondered if anyone else spotted his name :) Some of my friends playtested the Dominion prototype. I got to try it before it was published.
@filipcamerman3473
@filipcamerman3473 2 жыл бұрын
@@JavaJack59 I immediately noticed it too and rewinded the video to make sure I saw it right. Really cool, especially because Kingdom Builder is currently my favourite board game.
@skvan
@skvan 2 жыл бұрын
Now that’s some crazy trivia
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, you don't need any of this crap. I had a program from Compute or Ahoy that would allow you to record something on a cassette and then digitize it through the cassette port by just playing it in the datasette.
@MegaFonebone
@MegaFonebone Жыл бұрын
I wish we could read the version of the manual with all the jokes still in there!
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats on being the first pratt in the USA to reverse that recording! Kind regards, Perifractic - the first pratt in the UK to do it back then
@The8BitGuy
@The8BitGuy 2 жыл бұрын
What system did you do it with?
@RetroRecipes
@RetroRecipes 2 жыл бұрын
@@The8BitGuy I had a cassette recorder that would play in reverse. I think it was Sony and the feature was called slow rewind if I recall! I also used it for Knight Rider episode Knightmares which had a creepy hologram saying what was supposedly an address backwards. When I reversed it, it was indeed very similar to the address!
@RoderikvanReekum
@RoderikvanReekum 2 жыл бұрын
You are FIRST 👏👏👏🍾🥂
@IllidanS4
@IllidanS4 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly enough, the Czech dub of the series actually contained a sensible sentence there, not just a prank.
@dunebasher1971
@dunebasher1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@The8BitGuy I had a weekend job at a radio station at the time, so I just dubbed the audio off onto reel-to-reel down at the station, then flipped the tape over so it played backwards :)
@dragonskunkstudio7582
@dragonskunkstudio7582 2 жыл бұрын
16:49 Sounds so realistic! It's like I'm right there at the drive tru.
@dashcamandy2242
@dashcamandy2242 2 жыл бұрын
Half the time, it sounds the same to us on the "inside." The rest of the time it sounds like adults in Charlie Brown cartoons.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 2 жыл бұрын
@@dashcamandy2242 So that's why there's usually only a very loose connection between what is ordered and what ends up in the bag.
@grandetaco4416
@grandetaco4416 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right! The sound coming out of that thing is making me hungry!
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 2 жыл бұрын
The music is reversable, but time is not. Turn back. Turn back. Turn back. Turn back!
@MegaFonebone
@MegaFonebone Жыл бұрын
@@tarstarkusz what is that a reference to?
@feanenatreides
@feanenatreides 2 жыл бұрын
The best way I can describe the Voicemaster's "hum-along" mode is off-key digital farting. But maybe it's a lullaby for dial-up modems!
@vladv5126
@vladv5126 Жыл бұрын
So basically Megadeth vocals.
@marklechman2225
@marklechman2225 2 жыл бұрын
Finding a new 8-Bit Guy video on KZfaq is like finding a bucket of ice cubes in the desert. Always makes my day :)
@FoxyLittleNuggets
@FoxyLittleNuggets 2 жыл бұрын
Arthur Smith, (Red Dwarf Man) can actually speak backwards. He showed his talents on an episode of QI!
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 2 жыл бұрын
I just watched the Red Dwarf scene, holy shit thats hilarious
@Zeem4
@Zeem4 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I came here to comment the same thing. I seem to remember a panel quiz show on BBC Radio 4 where he'd sing a song backwards, and the other contestants had to work out what the song was.
@From_Heller
@From_Heller 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the voice harp. Sounds pretty much like when I sing along to something.
@vaskoa
@vaskoa 2 жыл бұрын
15:23 Hey, the return of the infamous paperclip. Glad to see it back 😁
@dglcomputers1498
@dglcomputers1498 2 жыл бұрын
If you want something that samples properly and has the look and feel of an 80's computer then a Roland S50/330/550/7XX is a must, the S50/550/330 is 12bit and the 7xx are 16bit. The 12bit line come with a monitor port (DIGITAL RGB (that can be easily converted to SCART and monochrome composite)as standard and can even be controlled with an MSX mouse.
@PCPSolutions
@PCPSolutions 2 жыл бұрын
I was obsessed with this stuff when I was a kid, of course I wanted the computer to speak and listen to me. I had saved and saved and got a voicemaster for c64, hearsay 1000 and later the PC version of the voicemaster. I had hours of fun... unfortunate it took about 30 years for them to talk back a little more intelligently. Great video!
@ShiroCh_ID
@ShiroCh_ID 2 жыл бұрын
how about now?
@enderjed2523
@enderjed2523 2 жыл бұрын
What about SAM?
@ghoulbuster1
@ghoulbuster1 2 жыл бұрын
30 more years and you will be able to hold a conversation with a computer without any delay or external input.
@paradoxzee6834
@paradoxzee6834 2 жыл бұрын
When Cortana and Siri came out the magic was already gone for me because I knew a bit how they worked but don't worry it does not stop me to talk to Siri when I'm bored. Also back than when I found out I could get Cortana on Android I did talk to her when I was home alone.
@Rasle500
@Rasle500 2 жыл бұрын
I bought this (voice Master, C64) for my hard earned money as a teenager in the mid 80's. It was very cool, I still have audio recordings of people from back then. I still got it. Mine is an aluminium box instead of plastic.
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 2 жыл бұрын
The Intellivision had an expansion module called the Intellivoice that gave digital playback of speech samples for certain games, such as "B-17 Bomber."
@Mumblix
@Mumblix 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing that way back when I was a kid at the mall. "Beee seventeeen bawmmerrrrrr"
@rebeccaschade3987
@rebeccaschade3987 2 жыл бұрын
My boyfriend is a huge fan of Red Dwarf, and he's gotten me into it as well. I did realise that the stuff being said in "Backwards" would probably be real sentences, but I've actually never tried reversing it myself. It was fun to hear that particular little clip :)
@moseshorowitz4345
@moseshorowitz4345 2 жыл бұрын
It's a family affair! The 8-Bit Guy, The Next Generation. Or, should we call her the 16-Bit Gal? She can specialize in neo-Retro from the late '90s.
@PotentiallyAndy
@PotentiallyAndy 2 жыл бұрын
I vote 16 bit gal :)
@sfs2040
@sfs2040 2 жыл бұрын
LGR eat your heart out lmao
@TauGeneration
@TauGeneration 2 жыл бұрын
can relate
@tricountyretail992
@tricountyretail992 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually the late 90s will be considered retro.
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 2 жыл бұрын
@@tricountyretail992 What do you mean, "eventually"? 😉😄
@thenargles
@thenargles 2 жыл бұрын
That is one of my favourite episodes of Red Dwarf! The voice recognition was much better than I thought it would be for the 80s.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
Kind of as expected for the time, but impressed it could run on that CPU speed.
@mresturk9336
@mresturk9336 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Cat realized one does not simply go to the bathroom in reverse :P
@Waccoon
@Waccoon 2 жыл бұрын
Just a few years ago I left a job at a warehouse where I used a headset voice-recognition picking system. Whatever I used wasn't much improved over what was used in the 80's! Worst part of that system was when the voice recognition got confused and the machine would start screaming gibberish at 100 decibels. How nice of the developers to leave the debug system enabled in the field release and blast diagnostics right into my ear at full volume.
@Groome007
@Groome007 2 жыл бұрын
There was also an episode of the GI Joe cartoon from the Eighties where Destro said a line backwards - when i reversed it, it said something like: "Anybody who took the time to reverse this is a real dweeb." LOL. Thanks for the video 8-Bit Guy. :)
@sothic23
@sothic23 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely awesome episode! I've always been fascinated by these ancient sound digitizers, never had the chance to mock around with 'em when i was a kid...Thank you for this retro thrill, dude! 👍
@shiru8bit
@shiru8bit 2 жыл бұрын
There is a kind of having fun with the samplers and reversed sound that many people came up on their own: record a phrase, reverse it, listen to it, and try to mimick it with your voice as close as possible on another record, then reverse that. The result often sound pretty fun.
@stevethepocket
@stevethepocket 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the _Twin Peaks_ effect.
@unfasten
@unfasten 2 жыл бұрын
When my family finally got a current computer with built-in sound capabilities in the early 2000s, I came up with a game with Windows Sound Recorder. A second person leaves the room, you record something and reverse it, and they come back in. Then you play them the reversed recording, and they record their best attempt at imitating the reversal. Then you reverse that and they try to guess what the original phrase was.
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one that did that!!
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk 2 жыл бұрын
So....Twin Peaks? 😁
@dycedargselderbrother5353
@dycedargselderbrother5353 2 жыл бұрын
Love your demos and music, shiru.
@geneshifter
@geneshifter 2 жыл бұрын
To this day, I remember being amazed by the voice synth my dad added to the Ti99/4a. It blew me away back then.
@rick420buzz
@rick420buzz 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing to do with the TI speech synth was to feed it strings of random phonemes with the CALL SAY command.
@JosephDavies
@JosephDavies 2 жыл бұрын
The TI's speech was a lot of fun. Pretty impressive audio from that one.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
@@rick420buzz Didn't it include a hardware model of the human speech organs?
@static-san
@static-san 2 жыл бұрын
@@johndododoe1411 It kinda does, yeah. It uses technology called Linear Predictive Coding which basically models how speech is generated in the human vocal tract.
@Kaucukovnik666
@Kaucukovnik666 2 жыл бұрын
10:50 Hoped for a "Cheating bitch" bit there. :)
@JaredClarkBoaz
@JaredClarkBoaz 2 жыл бұрын
I found this channel because of 8-Bit Keys and I miss seeing a new video pop up on a keyboard I hadn't heard of 😭🙏 Still love all the videos, and I'm glad to see any video of 8-Bit Guy's on my feed. Keep it up!
@dunebasher1971
@dunebasher1971 2 жыл бұрын
On my Acorn Atom (a 1979 British 6502-based computer, the direct forerunner of the BBC Micro), a short type-in program was published that let you digitise a few seconds of audio via the cassette port, so you could plug in a microphone instead of the tape deck and record your own voice. The audio was digitised into the 6K available just above screen memory. The quality was pretty awful, you could just make out your voice under a sea of noise, but it was still mind-blowing at the time.
@TheCatLady65
@TheCatLady65 2 жыл бұрын
Those British micro computers were amazing. I had a ZX81 myself.
@mikgus
@mikgus 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a version of that for the C64
@monstrogoth
@monstrogoth 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same kind of program (a short listing called dazzler in a magazine ) on m'y Amstrad CPC 6128, I just had to buy a standard din cable to make it works. The Amstrad 464 would do it with its integrated tape device direcly.
@logiciananimal
@logiciananimal 2 жыл бұрын
There was an Apple II program, MegaMusic, that did something like that. too. I was always amazed at the playback. Also the digitizer shown in this video is specifically for the //c. The port is not a "dumb" port - it has firmware for use with mice, so I wondered if that played a role.
@Abdullu
@Abdullu 2 жыл бұрын
18:38 "the time is 3 effing 4 pm"
@MarkyShaw
@MarkyShaw 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yea. Used to go dumpster diving back with a buddy in the 90s at a couple places that would throw away a lot of old electronics from the 80s at the time and came across a DECtalk Express. Although we discovered it after its time, it was still awesome to play with and made me appreciate the innovation of sound cards.
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 жыл бұрын
Man that is just sad. As an actual blind person who utilized a DECtalk express in order to be able to use computers, I paid about $500 for one in The year 2000, and I was getting a good deal given what they were going for in the blind community at the time. Hearing that somebody was throwing them out in the 90s just makes me cringe. 😂
@MarkyShaw
@MarkyShaw 2 жыл бұрын
@@FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker that is sad indeed! I guess the people had no idea what it actually did! I found it on a pile of token ring network cards. Which I also rescued at the time haha. Ahhh. I’m amazed it cost that much!
@bobblum5973
@bobblum5973 2 жыл бұрын
The DECtalk devices were amazing for their time. I was supporting all kinds of Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) computer and networking systems at the time, got to play with one briefly. As I recall, the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) used them for the voice reporting on the special weather radio broadcasting on several special frequencies like 162.550 KHz. It hasn't been that many years ago that they switched to newer synthesized voices.
@tylerevans1700
@tylerevans1700 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't been able to watch a vid by you in a while, I'm excited for this one especially!!
@SuperWave86
@SuperWave86 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! Super cool! I miss more music stuff like this! Great demo of these rare products! Also ur daughter has an awesome voice and it was cool seeing her for the first time!
@andrewrunagall
@andrewrunagall 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't actually expecting a Red Dwarf reference today, but I am glad there was. Oh, one thing you might find amusing is that over here in the UK, on the DVD release of Backwards, one of the DVD extras was the entire episode of Backwards in reverse.
@lorduggae
@lorduggae 2 жыл бұрын
The American release also has the episode forwards. I'm a big RD fan since I found it on a public tv station in the 90's.
@VictorCampos87
@VictorCampos87 2 жыл бұрын
19:59 I had almost the same idea as a kid, but with an inverted color image that I saw in a magazine. I scanned this and was happy when I applied the "inverse color" option and the original colors showed up.
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@Aikisbest
@Aikisbest 2 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I also had such moments of brilliant thinking when I was younger, always felt so satisfying :)
@paradoxzee6834
@paradoxzee6834 2 жыл бұрын
That moments as a kid were the best, when I had such ideas and it worked I always felt like I beat the system
@ryuhaneda
@ryuhaneda 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this. Older technology - sound and video cards in particular - get my attention and are an interesting topic to dig into. And the intro music to your channel is fantastic! Take care!
@rbspace454
@rbspace454 2 жыл бұрын
David! What a great episode. I always enjoy and look forward to your content!
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 2 жыл бұрын
I used the ZX Spectrum's mic socket for sampling in the mid 80's. It sounded decent, I would record chunks of songs into memory then save them to Microdrive. I could then load the chunks back in to play the full song. a 3 min track would be about 80K.
@KanawhaCountyWX
@KanawhaCountyWX 2 жыл бұрын
Your daughter has a pretty great singing voice, although the computer does not seem to comprehend that
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@Delekhan
@Delekhan 2 жыл бұрын
You da man! Thanks for the awesome vid! Knowledge drop from all this stuff that I was too young to be in to back in the day is much appreciated... One of my fave episodes of Red Dwarf BTW!
@JRthepyroguy
@JRthepyroguy 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy watching your videos. Takes me back to my jrhs days. BTW happy new year.
@JFSVideos
@JFSVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I wish I had played with sound more on my C64. Back in the day. The coolest thing I ever did with sound was to activate a keychain. I had a keychain that would say "I love you" when you whistled at the right pitch. I could never whistle so I wrote a C64 program to cycle thru all the sound frequencies until I found the range that would work. When I played the sound on the C64 the keychain would do its thing. My parents and friends were VERY impressed. Ah the good old days.
@EricMcL216
@EricMcL216 2 жыл бұрын
That Red Dwarf clip at the end got me! I've seen that episode 100 times and I never even considered reversing the audio! That was absolutely classic! Thank you so much for that! Lol!
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@2thinkcritically
@2thinkcritically 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reversing the audio on my Mum's 386SX with a SoundBlaster. I had recorded the episode the night before on an Amstrad dual deck VHS recorder, used a dictaphone to record from the TV speaker and plugged that into the audio-in on the sound card. I can still quote that whole conversation to this day 😁
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 2 жыл бұрын
Will have to pull out the boxed set of Red Dwarf and watch that episode again, then play it in reverse with VLC.
@carlc.4714
@carlc.4714 2 жыл бұрын
This moment at 9:58 when your C64 can understand you better, than my PS4 with fancy headset can understand me. 😬
@static-san
@static-san 2 жыл бұрын
These devices were clearly pushing the boundaries of what could be done with 1Mhz microcomputers. Imagine what could have followed if they then had been upgraded to be slightly more capable. But incremental upgrades weren't really a thing at the time; everyone tended to create whole new platforms instead.
@Magnus_Loov
@Magnus_Loov Жыл бұрын
I think the real limitation was the amount of RAM that was clearly limiting it. The Amiga got plenty of RAM finally and could use samples much more efficiently. In addition to that, the AD and DA converters in the samplers also were costly and you had to pay a lot for real samplers well into the 90:s...
@bamdadkhan
@bamdadkhan 2 жыл бұрын
this reminds me of an AVGN episode.. 'mattel electronics presents BEEYSEVUNTEEYN BAWMURR!!!'
@patrickcorrelliiii4063
@patrickcorrelliiii4063 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget GERSHBUSHTERSH! 😆
@btizef2008
@btizef2008 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I got one for my amiga 500 back in the day to use with octamed. We were impressed back then with such things. How simple it seems now 😂
@BarryEuphorik
@BarryEuphorik 2 жыл бұрын
What sampler did you use? Was it Stereo Master by any chance?
@btizef2008
@btizef2008 2 жыл бұрын
@@BarryEuphorik yup
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@atomXLV
@atomXLV 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 I wasn't expecting this level of agression from 8-bit guy
@thromboid
@thromboid 2 жыл бұрын
Had exactly the same experience of sampling and reversing the Red Dwarf clips on our Amiga. The hardware was a Sound Express (parallel port), and I think we blew the right channel trying to plug it into the phone line. Glory Days!
@jimboAndersenReviews
@jimboAndersenReviews 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fabulous; the amount of time that I used, dooling in SAM (Software Automatic Mouth) on C64 means, that I'd have been using even longer on mucking around with recordings. The Doctor Who and Red Dwarf findings is the cherry on top.
@tripwire76
@tripwire76 2 жыл бұрын
The C64 datasette actually was a 1bit sound digitizer. A magazine back in the day had a small listing that allowed you to sample snippets from cassette tapes. There even was a diagram on where on the datasette's PCD to solder two leads so you could attach an external microphone. Lots of fun.
@RamLaska
@RamLaska 2 жыл бұрын
WOW!! :D
@DaniKarmann
@DaniKarmann 2 жыл бұрын
I had a magazine with a routine that lets you listen music from cassette tapes, although with bad quality sound.
@cpm1003
@cpm1003 2 жыл бұрын
The Apple ][e cassette input worked the same way. I typed in a program from Nibble magazine to record audio. I hooked up a microphone, recorded a bunch of phonemes, and made a crude text to speech synthesizer. If you ever played Castle Wolfenstein 2 on the Apple, it had some speech recorded in this way. 1 bit audio!
@da5idnz
@da5idnz 2 жыл бұрын
I think I had that! I also typed in a really, really long listing that allowed you to record and play back what was coming through. Basically all it did was record the change in volume coming through the tape head and then change the volume register up and down on playback.
@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores 2 жыл бұрын
@@cpm1003 I never saw that program in Nibble magazine, but I wrote my own program to record 1 bit audio using the cassette input. It sampled the input every 10 clock cycles. The built-in speaker could only be toggled on and off, so it too was essentially 1 bit audio. I think the voice recordings in Castle Wolfenstein were highly compressed so they did not sound so well. I got much better results with my own program. There was a speech synthesizer program for the Apple ][ computers called SAM, so I never thought of creating my own.
@philipmurphy2
@philipmurphy2 2 жыл бұрын
It's being a while but I am glad to see the 8 Bit Guy back showing his technical knowledge again.
@zorcoremusic7456
@zorcoremusic7456 2 жыл бұрын
Oooh I've been waiting for this for a minute. Thanks for sharing sir!!
@JoelElRican
@JoelElRican 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in 1989, so this stuff is all new to me. It's amazing how much we take these things for granted now because everything is integrated on the motherboard. This is why I love this channel though. Learning about all the old, obsolete tech, really makes me appreciate my computer more.
@SpaceLordof75
@SpaceLordof75 2 жыл бұрын
Holy crap! The Commodore Composer was programmed by Donald Vaccarino. The game designer of Dominion, the first ever deck building game. How weird is that?
@RyanHull76
@RyanHull76 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos. Big props to your daughter for putting her voice on the web! Great pipes!
@PocketOperatorGuy
@PocketOperatorGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Dude!! I missed your videos buddy! Glad you're back! That's soon good nostalgic content right there! It's crazy how much technology has changed over the years. All these "expander packs" and cartridges to get a bit more out of your system. It seems like everything has went back to the way they used to be with massive components.. (especially video cards)
@organiccold
@organiccold 2 жыл бұрын
Your daughter sings very well. Loved this episode, the message from red dwarf was amazing
@EpicBenjo
@EpicBenjo 2 жыл бұрын
Watching you put on that headset put a smile on my face lol. I had headphones that had that similar way of adjusting with the metal parts sticking out lol
@jordansime6684
@jordansime6684 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another great, in-depth video!! I'd love to know more about the Commodore FM Sound Module and Magic Voice Cartridge someday!!!
@tristandunn4628
@tristandunn4628 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the Red Dwarf episode as you were talking about Dr Who. Being a big RD fan, and very much aware of Arthur Smith's message, I had a good chuckle to myself when you said that you actually reversed his little insult!! Nice one :o)
@iloveimageprocessing
@iloveimageprocessing 2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember which machine I had (Spectrum 128K or Atari STE maybe), but I remember reversing the Red Dwarf episode and also being impressed. I remembered it the moment you spoke about Dr Who!
@evan_kumar
@evan_kumar 2 жыл бұрын
4:18 its not Christmas anymore!! Lol
@Pyroscity
@Pyroscity Жыл бұрын
It is now
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 2 жыл бұрын
Love your daughters voice! I owned the technosound sampler for the Amiga and loved playing with that. There were several sampler software programs out there that could distort your voice like transposing up and down, dalek robot sound etc.
@pistolasnine8389
@pistolasnine8389 2 жыл бұрын
Keep the videos coming, love your work!
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR
@DAVIDGREGORYKERR 2 жыл бұрын
There is a system that came with a package called Softspeak which was on all of the PC Plus Superdiscs which said "Welcome to the PC Plus Superdisc" and also had the digitizer to allow you to create the sound files which could be turned into self playing files which played through the PC speaker.
@Dr_Mario2007
@Dr_Mario2007 2 жыл бұрын
Voice recognition is kind of a tricky thing to do, especially with the 8-bit computers, since obviously, RAM capacity is limited as you already know, so it had to make do with simple spoken commands so it can actually do something without eating up all the RAM space. Nowadays we got decent flexibility due to both improved AI processing and obviously gigabytes of RAM (it's mind-blowing to see smartphones now sporting up to 16 - 20 GB of RAM compared to the 64 to 256 MB back in the early days of smartphones).
@Jimbaloidatron
@Jimbaloidatron 2 жыл бұрын
And now we also have computers in the cloud with their vast AI training sets, so your phone doesn't have to do much more than send the audio to the big G, or whomever, and some text comes back. I think I read somewhere that your voice is processed and then shared between 8 servers to do the actual recognition, presumably to keep up. So in theory, if we can get the data coming from the c64 cartridge and had a way to send to the cloud, we could get voice typing on the 8 bits too!
@paranoidgenius9164
@paranoidgenius9164 2 жыл бұрын
I reversed clips from that episode of Red Dwarf, it felt like the actor were talking to me & I was in wondrous amazement & I loved it!😊 I predicted you would mention the Red Dwarf episode when you were talking about the 70's episode of Doctor Who.
@christopherrice2004
@christopherrice2004 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see more stuff coming from you! Honestly, my favorite is the SFX Sound Sampler. It's got the best audio quality, and it doesn't have a bunch of useless gimmick demos.
@wado1942
@wado1942 2 жыл бұрын
"Backwards" was one of my favorite Red Dwarf episodes, absolutely brilliant.
@goofyrulez7914
@goofyrulez7914 2 жыл бұрын
When my mother first heard my Apple ][+ talk back in the 80s, she was totally amazed. Now, she talks and listens to her cell phone. Times have sure changed.
@WSS_the_OG
@WSS_the_OG 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa, fantastic stuff. I'm with you, had a sampler (no idea what type it was) for the Amiga, and used the heck out of it to make soundtracker mods with. That easter egg in Red Dwarf "Backwards", oh my goodness! How did you even think to do that? Hilarious, and brilliant.
@3vi1J
@3vi1J 2 жыл бұрын
I used to want one of these so bad! It's very interesting to see their capabilities in hindsight of current technologies. Thanks for the continuing trip down nostalgia lane!
@Frog-ko6uu
@Frog-ko6uu 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that they made the backwards audio an easter egg is absolutely brilliant
@CF542
@CF542 2 жыл бұрын
I love, Red Dwarf, especially the first 2 or 3 seasons. One of my favorites is when they go into a video game and make each other miserable.
@djackmanson
@djackmanson 2 жыл бұрын
"Wait. This isn't my fantasy." "No, it's mine!"
@RedDragonGecko
@RedDragonGecko 2 жыл бұрын
2:12 I would love to see all 3 daisy chained and see if they all work.
@mm7wabanamateurradiowomble30
@mm7wabanamateurradiowomble30 2 жыл бұрын
I was into UV etching my own PCB designs in those days & with a few friends that were also into electronics we built several different mono audio samplers for the C64 using different ADC ICs before settling on a design we were happy with. We ended up with two versions, one that cost about £10 that gave pretty decent results and one for about £35 that was built inside cheap Tandy/Radio Shack two channel audio mixer units. The manager of our local Radio Shack store eventually asked what we were doing with them when we bought all the two channel mixers they had in stock and asked when they would get more. It turned out the manager and a couple of the staff also had C64s and bought 3 samplers from us ! We gave them a 'discount' in the hope we might get the next batch we bought at a lower price, I ended up getting staff discount on a whole bunch of stuff from that store. Oh what Fun!
@MatthewCaunsfield
@MatthewCaunsfield 2 жыл бұрын
I was so impressed with the voice clips in Impossible Mission and Ghostbusters back in the 80s. I had experimented with programming musical notes on the C64 and just assumed it was a very complicated form of that, somehow! 😂
@bardo0007
@bardo0007 2 жыл бұрын
Also Karate Kid was great, still have a copy of the C64 game. Amazing graphics and sound.
@joepremkes
@joepremkes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually quite surprised by the speech recognition capabilities! Nice job 8-Bit Daughter!
@skvan
@skvan 2 жыл бұрын
Love the 8 bit guy! Cool story about reversing the dialogue :D
@rlevitta
@rlevitta 2 жыл бұрын
After suffering through overly long, complicated youtube video openings, I have to compliment you on your perfectly made intro. It's got all the info you need to know what's going to be happening, and it's just the right length - 10 seconds. Thanks for not wasting my time.
@guutiitsoq9574
@guutiitsoq9574 2 жыл бұрын
4:55 So true
@DavidB-fy8oj
@DavidB-fy8oj 2 жыл бұрын
I had the Voice Master for the Atari and yes they did put that adjustment tool in every box. Memory space for the audio file was a big issue, so you couldn't include too many sounds in any program that you created.
@lomaii2847
@lomaii2847 2 жыл бұрын
⚡:SPEZIEL FÜR DICH "BEST.FURDICH.FUN" > SATISFY.BABY < tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤💌💘
@qwertykeyboard5901
@qwertykeyboard5901 2 жыл бұрын
@@lomaii2847 Oh god, not the spam sex bots.
@stitchfinger7678
@stitchfinger7678 2 жыл бұрын
@@andymerrett Bots that endlessly post sex ads.
@MorebitsUK
@MorebitsUK 2 жыл бұрын
I had Stereo Master for the STE.
@johndododoe1411
@johndododoe1411 2 жыл бұрын
What's the ADC width and sample rate? I seem to recall later Sun machines going with the same 8 bit 8 ksps format used for digital phone lines.
@mitchellborne7428
@mitchellborne7428 2 жыл бұрын
dude yes. this episode was great! Please do more samplers!
@JSHMusik
@JSHMusik 2 жыл бұрын
Watching 8-Bit Guy before sleeping, putting headphones in, arranging blanked and pillow nicely, and being eager to enjoy great content, all of a sudden I hear 3 knocks, I rip out my headphones, jump up from bed, my heartbeat went up a few notches and looking around to what caused this. While I was looking at the door, checking if anything fell down, running through every room to see what might have caused the sound, I realized it could also be the video... ( 0:58 ) So I just wanted to thank you for my late night cardio, my heart works :D 10/10 would recommend as personal trainer. :D (just wanted to share this funny story, no critique)
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 2 жыл бұрын
So cool seeing a kalimba out of nowhere. What a great instrument, easy to learn, cheap and can be hold like a gamepad. Tetris theme here i go again... :D
@ShaunDreclin
@ShaunDreclin 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem with it is having to grow out your thumbnails lol
@chrisakaschulbus4903
@chrisakaschulbus4903 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShaunDreclin There were some rubber fingercaps/tips provided... but i don't really use them and after a while your thumbs get used to it... or maybe i'm just not playing as loud ^^
@casstelles
@casstelles 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing the Covox Voicemaster, it reminded me of the railroad defect detectors that broadcasted over the air to alert of any axle over temps or dragging equipment. This makes me wonder if the companies that built them used the same chips that were in the Convex. This may not be too much of a stretch since companies like to use more off-the-shelf components to build their products.
@timmooney7528
@timmooney7528 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Back in the days I would see these devices in the magazines, and imagine all the fun and productivity I would have using them. It appears my expectations were a bit higher than what they delivered.
@realpdm
@realpdm 2 жыл бұрын
"Another visitor! Stay a while! Stay.. FOREVER" is one of my favorite catch phrases that dates my age almost immediately when no one understands what I am talking about.
@brancespradlin5973
@brancespradlin5973 2 жыл бұрын
That was a fun episode. Thanks for doing it.
@Splungified
@Splungified 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you started with Ghostbusters and Impossible Mission. We had both those games for our C64 as well as Kennedy Approach, which my father played a lot of. That was a air traffic control simulator where the game would use speech synthesis to repeat back your commands like a controller speaking to the aircraft.
@kreigrastalovich2577
@kreigrastalovich2577 2 жыл бұрын
I remember having the voicemaster, it was fun for a while.
@hsjoberg
@hsjoberg 2 жыл бұрын
17:24 You should probably try with a sinewave instead, should probably be easier for it to figure out the right octave (for obvious reasons...)
@philipmurphy2
@philipmurphy2 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, Keep up the good work.
@johansenphotography
@johansenphotography 2 жыл бұрын
I got my first audio digitizer on my Commodore Amiga too in the 80s and it was really good! Used it for fun and to record sounds for public performances, like a Patch the Pirate children's musical at our church. The Amiga did a great job of multitasking the playback of the sound samples, so I could have crickets playing back multiple times with each mouse click, over both the left and right channels of the auditorium's sound system which made it sound so real! The kids and the parents loved the effects it added! PS. Love Red Dwarf! Was hilarious seeing the lady un-eat the hotdog and you being the first one in the states to hear what they were actually saying!
@pault151
@pault151 2 жыл бұрын
I was already thinking strongly of the Amiga when I went into the local computer shop. They had a disc copy program that someone had hacked to play the G&S Pirates of Penzance song whenever you started the copier - "Yo, ho, yo, ho, a pirate's life for me!" Played with very good fidelity through some OK speakers at the shop, it may have been the moment I decided to get that computer.
@janferenc316
@janferenc316 2 жыл бұрын
Aren't the analog cassette input's (on an Apple II, for example) technically audio inputs tho?
@KillDaRoy
@KillDaRoy 2 жыл бұрын
I had build my own sampler for my C64 from a magazine called "64'er" edition 10/86 . It was cheap and works very fine. I had so much fun 😀
@keiffitz689
@keiffitz689 2 жыл бұрын
13:00 chose the perfect time to come in and pet the cat while this was playing on my phone lol
@CraigRodmellMusic
@CraigRodmellMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Another new 8-bit Guy video in my recommendations when I wake up usually means today = good day. This instalment did not disappoint! Interesting content, well presented. What I do wonder is, when are we going to see a new episode of 8-Bit Keys? It's been a long time. Just hinting......
@elfenmagix8173
@elfenmagix8173 2 жыл бұрын
The SID has Audio In but that function was never implemented on the C64 or as I can tell the C128. In fact the original C64s did not have pin 26 of the Original 6581 connected to anything. Furthermore the C64 memory map of the time shows a couple blank/unassigned registers inside the SID's space. Could they have been for the Audio In? I know that most of the older C64s with the "long board" with the composite video did not connect this pin. The later long boards with the Chroma/Lumina pins may have connected it to something - but where. Not to the video jack even though it says "Audio In". The short boards with the 8580 like on the 64C - I know nothing about. It maybe connected to the video port or not. A lot of games that has digitized voices, like Impossible Mission, Ghost Busters, Beach Head and others were done on a keyboard synthesizer and the data pumped into the computer's memory. M.U.L.E uses this technique for its music track to make it sound like the machine has more than three voice/sound tracks by multiplexing the sound and pumping in the resulting data through the system's sound chip.
@stevesether
@stevesether 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the interaction with the SID chip, and how those game designers got speech, as well as M.U.L.E is far more amazing than the C64 interacting with some.... I assume 3rd party A/D chip that these boards must have supported. If you could have recorded sounds, then played them back on ANYONES C64 rather than requiring some special device, that would have been very cool!
@vicr123
@vicr123 2 жыл бұрын
Can you chain those three sound cartridges together?
@Angelgreat
@Angelgreat 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! That would be a great experiment.
@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores
@TheGuyThatEveryoneIgnores 2 жыл бұрын
In high school I chained a couple Apple //gs keyboards together. They both worked. Another kid and I typed at the same time and we got characters from both keyboards appearing on the screen all mixed together.
@fiditunka
@fiditunka 2 жыл бұрын
this was a very entertaining episode. thanks!
@NathanielTagg
@NathanielTagg 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I remember lusting after this thing (I'm pretty sure they advertised a VIC-20 model). I remember mentally computing how many days of delivering newspapers it would take to get it, and how cool it would be to talk to my computer.. but the VoiceMaster retailed for more than $100, too rich for my blood back then. Thank goodness I didn't; I would have been a bit heartbroken. But it's great to finally see what it was!
@lexluthermiester
@lexluthermiester 2 жыл бұрын
Speech recognition was actually fairly advanced back then. Very interesting!
@bartlomiejm0
@bartlomiejm0 2 жыл бұрын
That is very interesting, I wonder if similar digitizers exists for PCs with PC Speaker only
@spearmaster_
@spearmaster_ 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that would work, maybe it would in the same way as music in planet x3
@rasmusolesen5307
@rasmusolesen5307 2 жыл бұрын
No digitizers as far as I know, but there was some cool software called RealSound that could play actual audio on the pc speaker.
@arivaldarivald3212
@arivaldarivald3212 2 жыл бұрын
Hardware is the same, printer port sound sampler works the same both for Amiga and PC. As of software, I do not know.
@bartlomiejm0
@bartlomiejm0 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasmusolesen5307 there is even a modern application called BaWaMi with the same functionality, and works even under Windows 10
@ropersonline
@ropersonline 2 жыл бұрын
I was kind of wondering a similar thing. Since this was a Covox product, and since Covox made their famous parallel port sound "card" (i.e. output peripheral), did they also make an input peripheral? Maybe something to sample the sounds with that the Covox Speech Thing was supposed to play back? And since the latter was only a resistor ladder, I wonder what a simple-as-possible input ADC (analog-to-digital converter) would have looked like?
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