The last piece of the pie!! letting an CS590 echo breath to see if it will run any better! Thanks for watching!!
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@Piledriver22352 жыл бұрын
As mentioned before, with having to restrict flow to meet government regs, it's understandable that they have to build the mufflers the way they do to pass inspection.... That being said, it would be super nice if they would put a knockout plug (like a metal electrical box) to make it quick and easy for the end user to get the designed performance out of the saw 😁
@thesmallwoodlot433 Жыл бұрын
As nice as that would be, the government doesn’t want you to modify anything for better performance, as the excuse of emissions/ and or safety, so manufacturers leave this opportunity alone for the end user, and a lit of these mods will void warranty! The cs590 has a five year warranty! So when I mod mine, it will be done on a second muffler!😂
@SuperJamster12 жыл бұрын
Great series on these Echos. Nice to see a different saw than just Sthil and Huskies.
@elijahmerrill90452 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for the sprocket to send that chain plate flying… Glad it didn’t.
@terryvaughn8466 Жыл бұрын
Would have been nice to see muffler mod first, since that is least expensive. Great video.
@joescott8032 жыл бұрын
It definitely was night and day with my 590. I can’t wait to see the difference when it’s ported
@lisashier55682 жыл бұрын
Nice new backdrop for the video’s. Change is always sweet especially when you did such a great job Tinman!
@22ceedee2 жыл бұрын
hey my friend great video !!! just an FYI, when putting your burr into your foredom or dremil . push the shank all the way in . then just pull it an 1/8 of an inch out and then tighten it . this will prevent bending the shaft as it did, or even breaking it. just a little tip that was pointed out to me by fellow wood carvers ,that helped me out a lot . love your vidios man , keep on sharing your knowledge and what you do !
@43dukedog2 жыл бұрын
Hey fellow tin knocker did commercial installs and shopwork for 15 yrs in Maine hard work
@nickywalsh84922 жыл бұрын
This is good series 👏. Like wheres its headed
@dirtcurt15 ай бұрын
I had to go to the non-bypass main jet just to get it to 2 stroke at 8 thousand feet. I have a 620p and a 600p plus I rebuilt two 590s. Did the carb jet replacement on all of them. I also found with stock porting at altitude, it really lost torque if I tuned it for high rpm. They like to be a bit rich. Echo makes a nice saw. I love that almost all of the screws are the same and you can pull the carb in about 2 minutes. Snug the screws only, no cranking them down or they will strip out. Parts are expensive as well, a negative. Bar sizes are goofy stock too.
@sunbear19732 жыл бұрын
This is a great series on the 590. I bought a 590 a couple of years ago and just did a muffler mod to it right away and found out that it was a major hold back of power. I like the results so much that I ended up selling my Stihl MS360 and keeping the little echo. Keep up the good info sharing 🤙
@Tatted_gunna2 жыл бұрын
What kind of mod did you do? Just curious I just purchased one and it’s rlly restrictive. TIA
@sunbear19732 жыл бұрын
@@Tatted_gunna I did something very similar to what Tinman has done. Cut open the exit hole and then I went in with a drill bit to punch a bunch of holes in the baffling. It has been awhile but I think that was what I did to open up the muffler on the 590.
@Finom12 жыл бұрын
Amazing production Tinman. Thank you for sharing with your community.
@paulrhodes4822 жыл бұрын
The new setup looks great brother! Thanks for all you do for us newbies love the channel. Have a great weekend.
@willisfranks24762 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive. It is going to kick butt, when finished. Nice work, love the new set-up in the shop. Take Care, Stay Safe and Be Kind...
@zeromark2022 жыл бұрын
Great video, this is my favorite series! Love the Echo CS-590/600/620 platform!
@juicebox412 жыл бұрын
Nice background, A few years you'll have a collection like Bucken. Im enjoying this series. Stay cool!
@jonanderson47552 жыл бұрын
I did the same muffler mod on my 590. Between that and pulling the limiter tabs, it turned into a different saw. Love how it sounds as well.
@tinmanssaws2 жыл бұрын
I agree, its very stuffed up from the factory
@mapleridgeoutdoors41362 жыл бұрын
Throttle response seems to be snappy! Never owned echo anything, but I’ve heard that they have come a long way from what they used to be! Loving the build series brother. Thanks for taking us along fir the ride
@livewithnick2 жыл бұрын
Really,echo has always made quality products. Now,with their chainsaws people are starting to realize you get a lot of saw for the money. Their saws are getting better and better though. I used to run nothing but Stihl trimmers now it’s all Echo.
@rchighfield12 жыл бұрын
Perfect for video it seemed to be easier for you than having to move in closer and check for being in frame! With all the regulations manufacturers have to comply with restricted mufflers are to be expected. I agree wholeheartedly with porting and getting more fuel in will obviously cause more heat and it needs more space to exit. Looking forward to this build. I’m especially interested in where the high jet ends up afterwards. I’m guessing a turn and an eighth. Thanks for taking the time to video this.
@ClintsHobbiesDIY2 жыл бұрын
Wow, What a difference. Nice vid. The set up for filming is much better so we can tell what you are doing.
@richnorman50172 жыл бұрын
Love your “NEW” look Tinman!!!! Great detail and one can REALLY see what your doing!!! Better for you to be setting also!!!👍👍👍
@Mikzone-zb6jk2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the next video. I got the 590, it's bone stock hasn't even had a full tank gas through it yet.
@dentondunn43462 жыл бұрын
Haven't had a tank ran through my cs590 and already sent it to Iowa Performance Saws for a muffler mod and tune removing the limiters and getting it back Tuesday, I can't wait for it to get here to see how it runs now
@bbarker5766 Жыл бұрын
I have an Echo 590 and love it so far. But I'm looking at moding it up and this series is great to show everything step by step.
@buxtonworksawsllc96452 жыл бұрын
Same way I do them. Tip on your grinder if you're using it hung right there you're gonna burn cables up. Hang it from the ceiling. Took me about 5 cables to learn that 😂
@woody1755 Жыл бұрын
I just ordered 1 this morning before I saw you had a series on it...first thing I'm doing is this mod...thanks Tinman!!
@chrissworkshop9772 жыл бұрын
I just started modding my 590, watched all your videos about the saw. My first mod was swapping out that semi fixed high jet, coupling that with a muffler mod and unlimited coil. I'm going to get it into wood for tuning soon. I'm excited for the results.
@Swamp-Fox2 жыл бұрын
Love the new setup!
@rellickmyers34692 жыл бұрын
I hogged mine out quite a bit more aggressively, and I washed it out with soap and water befor running it as it had alot of shavings trapped in it I didn't want going back into the motor
@TXRed18362 жыл бұрын
Now she's starting to get somewhere. Good work sir. 👍
@edwingroening50872 жыл бұрын
I like your neatly stacked chainsaw shelf. Nice video Tinman.
@simpleman42242 жыл бұрын
Made it breathe! Made it snappier too!👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Obeconobe72 жыл бұрын
Really like how you chose to do the muffler mod as it keeps the spark arrestor in use. Like the new camera view set-up as well. Once ported this 590 will definitely out-perform a stock 562. I noticed you didn't show or mention blowing/washing out the metal shavings from the modded muffler. Pretty much a given for the experienced, not so much for a newbie. Love this series on the 590. Huge Echo fan myself... 501P and 620P in my stable.
@sanchezzz12 жыл бұрын
Great to see this series happen. I'm hoping to buy a used 590 to go with my cS-520, and you sir have a new sub from Oshawa.
@Walking_on_Chips Жыл бұрын
Love these vids bro. Have a new 590 coming in 2 days and digging the thought of increasing its power.
@michelpicton83572 жыл бұрын
Awesome series on the cs590. Got me thinking about doing a muffler mod
@patrickwinde98022 жыл бұрын
I just did a bunch of work to my echo thank you for the content tinman helped alot I gotta say my 620 p far better then the 562 now it is a torgue monster now base delete ported muffler mod and stoekel stack air filter and it's a dream now
@sixstringedwithabowl2 жыл бұрын
We like this, you're informative and show every step.
@sundial69192 жыл бұрын
Enjoying this echo journey 😁 dont care for opinions but my humble assessment you present a very good explanation an illustration tutorial and admire that you seem to care that folks actually learn something . Tip my Resistol , Tinman
@gregbrassington21202 жыл бұрын
Love the Echo's great saws, & excellent vids 🇭🇲👍
@michaelwhiteoldtimer76482 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good idea opening up the muffler
@Boomer_in_the_Trees10 ай бұрын
I really enjoy your 590 videos, I've been working one professionally now coming up on 5 years (semi-retired tree surgeon on a budget) and beaten the heck out of it over the years, it works wood 3 and 4 times the size its designed for. Never tried to mod it, just run the 24 bar on it and kept it stock but going to give the mod a try. BTW, you asked about the new camera angle, I can't see what you're doing most of the time because its facing you so everything you're doing is blocked by what you're working on. Just fyi. Thanks again for doing these 590 videos, they're great.
@HuckThis19712 жыл бұрын
I just played with the dremmel today. Opened up some holes in the muffler for my poulan farm hand 295. 🤪 What a difference. It's simple. Air is lazy. I'm a tool and die maker by trade. I had my fair share of porting and cleaning heads for the car scene.
@chris_moodie92 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see the progress you have made! been awhile since I've watched but I love to see you working and growing still! you and Billy are the reason I bought 5 old homelites last winter and brought them out of their graves!
@jfitz96242 жыл бұрын
What I had done with mine was cut open a small spot on the bottom of it, that allowed us to get inside and totally gut the internals, then closed it up. Then welded the existing outlet on the top closed, and then drilled two holes off each corner 3/4 inch and brazed 2 3/4 inch pipes. Looks like a dual port husky muffler now. And it flows now and my 620 absolutely rips., I did what you did first, just drilled out that area and I felt I lost too much bottom end. Too little back pressure. But it still ran good. But not nearly as good as this. The other option Tinman is to weld the existing outlet up, then drill and tap the deflector off the front. Of the muffler. And gut the internals.
@jacobhein43192 жыл бұрын
Love the new setup
@ejsocci2630 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome, especially with the three changes, thanks
@settlersaws83382 жыл бұрын
Good stuff tinman
@mathieumaisonneuve7210 Жыл бұрын
Less restriction is not always better on 2 stroke engines cause they need back pressure to reach peak power
@tazman-kennyfuller2 жыл бұрын
Oh heck yeah Tinman. I love it. That Muffler is built alot like the one on my 570 husky. That echo is much easier to mod than the husky. That is a sweet mod and a big help. Thank you buddy. Oh yeah great video I love the new bench. Great job. 🌲❤🌲✊🪓
@sebastianleicht2 жыл бұрын
The New setup is great. You should keep that!
@joehackett94712 жыл бұрын
Thing sounds alot better too! Think Im gonna get a 620 now!
@andrewslagle19742 жыл бұрын
I purchased 620pw with 24" and a 7310p with a 28" bar.I live the saws.
@joehackett94712 жыл бұрын
@@andrewslagle1974 my stable of Echo's is growing also! Have 500vl, cs680, 7310, 501p and soon to be 620 lol
@HuckThis19712 жыл бұрын
View is good. Keep up the good work!
@sundial69192 жыл бұрын
Also glad to hear you mention atomization an swirl . You would make money if you found a universal way of introducing swirl to carb venturi or immediately after for chainsaws
@SonOfLiberty19842 жыл бұрын
It sounds like that carb likes to fuel. Thats a beautiful thing considering she's gonna eat more of it when you open up those lower transfers and get her turning a few grand more on the rippems!
@retiredwelder19712 жыл бұрын
Great job bud. Interesting seeing what it did letting it breath. I think all saws are restricted way to much in the muffler. As always WORK SAFE!!!!😎🇨🇦🇺🇸
@codyroger95812 жыл бұрын
I do this to all my 5 series husky’s, reach in under the deflector, hog it out and put the screen back in. Zero welding, works great.
@antoniomorgado53042 жыл бұрын
What a sound! Crazy and loud!!!!!
@poparamiro2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff!, as always.... 🤝🤝🤝🤝
@williamwhite9321 Жыл бұрын
Awesome mod thanks tinman
@CharlesBrisco2 жыл бұрын
I'm still tuning on my 590 I just ported an I tride a red barn popup but it's a heavy piston I think I wuda Ben better off cuting base an makeing a popup out of my stock piston. At wait to see that one ported
@dentondunn43462 жыл бұрын
Just recently bought a cs590 Timberwolf and before breaking it in I sent it to Iowa Performance Saws for a muffler mod and a tune. Can't wait to get it back next week
@andrewdow16092 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. I have a Echo CS-590 for my cottage property. I use it for about 2 weeks of the year, hard, to cut the 4-5 cords of rounds I need (split later) to get me through the winter. Its a great saw. I love it. I do notice that when used that hard, it gets hot, but I just stop working and carry out the rounds while it cools. I'll watch all your CS-590 mods and see if I can get it to work even better.
@tinmanssaws2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for subscribing!!
@geopolitix7770Ай бұрын
Good move. I got my cs600 hot buried in some massive wood and wasn't savvy enough to slow down. But on the bright side, I discovered Tinman while I do the cylinder and piston rebuild!😂
@elizabethreed29452 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah Friday night in the shop!!!!! Loggin in the mornin gettin my gear ready and hangin with the tinman
@jonathanhall1362 жыл бұрын
Nice job. 👍
@polar3302 жыл бұрын
Be interested in seeing if you picked up much for rpm with the muffler mod.
@joescott8032 жыл бұрын
A hole saw works awesome to take the pipe out. Sounds like a 80cc dirt bike
@travisweldmaster78152 жыл бұрын
AWESOME video content and yeah series, love you buddy, what buckn say keep on truckn lol
@sebastianleicht2 жыл бұрын
Cool and easy mod! With an better cuttingspeed and Sound. I'm also very curious about the effect of the of the timing advance when it is done! Thx Tinman!
@paulhenry10112 жыл бұрын
Good set up Tinman.. we will get some wee porting Videos like what uncel Harvey does.👍🏼🏴 Mega content today tinman.
@vintagesawyer62462 жыл бұрын
Like your new "set" . Had a 2015 model 590 and the muffler was different than that one. Pretty much wide open with just the screen.
@DaveyBlue322 жыл бұрын
I freakin love the tuxedo shirt coming out to party!!! With the extra torque you can know drag your file across those rakes 4-5 more times, right? LMFFAO!
@viperstrike38272 жыл бұрын
You said it is too dry there? Yeah we definately don’t have that problem in Mississippi right now!
@anthony87fiorillo2 жыл бұрын
Curious, what were the cut rpm's with the bolt on mods and muffler mod when it achieved 3.5-3.6 sec cuts? Super curious what rpm gains brought it more in line with the 562. Thanks.
@wheelstandr10 ай бұрын
Those discs are impressive! You're like a human miter saw!
@olafvidar93152 жыл бұрын
Overall Tinman, how does these echo saws compare to the old school huskies?
@hphillips74252 жыл бұрын
I feel better seeing I done mine the same way and it is no doubt stronger. My 330T was not as easy
@luisgodoy93152 жыл бұрын
Great info tinman
@tedwesterman9312 жыл бұрын
Good angle for viewing, thx!
@hotboxpizzatruck2 жыл бұрын
Will most larger cc saws benefit from a muffler tweak or 2?
@reckless30082 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video I'm doing the muffler right now and reviewing this video cuz I trust you not some of these other nut jobs lol thanks again ❤
@Righound42 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see some Bolt-on mods. How bout doing a timing advance and running it again before grinding? Great build so far👍
@johnsuch59142 жыл бұрын
New stage looks GREAT !!!! Love my 590 just hate it being stock ;(
@2010stoof Жыл бұрын
FYI from a tool and die guy, if you use a taper bit it'll reduce vibration
@rossgraveley2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video some good ideas to
@silvertip8k278 Жыл бұрын
Trigger respons is great...big improvement...I cut at 8to 10k feet in the rockies...need to find out how to get that deal on my dolmar and husky Grest video!
@4seasonpursuits7244 ай бұрын
Always appreciate you shop talk Tinman! Hey, with that mod is there any concern for short-circuiting from the muffler inlet to outlet? Would you have done anything differently?
@sconniejohn2 жыл бұрын
Man, that things a beast. You've convinced me to get one and just a handful of mods! Awesome channel! Do you offer your services for porting?
@danielpospisil11929 ай бұрын
Skvělá práce . Co používáte za otáčkoměr a jaký olej do benzínu ?
@jensenwilliam54342 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@stevetheriault41642 жыл бұрын
AWESOME §RIES BUDDY GREAT WORK MAN BE SAFE BUDDY
@AZHighlandHomestead2 жыл бұрын
Seems to me the order of these mods you did for anyone considering them on their own saw would be: 1) muffler mod 2) coil upgrade 3) carb upgrade
@earthfarmer Жыл бұрын
Thanks! which Foredom power head are you using?
@jeffreyrubish3472 жыл бұрын
Alright, I gotta get after my Husqvarna 261 muffler 👍
@travisweldmaster78152 жыл бұрын
And if anyone does and struggles I'm sure I'm not the only one in our saw community to help anyone out, not knowing how to weld basics is a major disservice to urself if u work with metal at all
@srxabier2778 Жыл бұрын
Cuuute
@cranberryrelish1179Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video im just getting into chainsaws and im buying an echo. Why do you pull the cord when you stop the motor?
@andyjones63612 жыл бұрын
Tin man I have to husky saws An older 55 and a new 460 Rancher I thought the newer saw would run away from the old 55. But it’s kinda doggy. The old 55 starts every time runs great for a bone stock saw and I just love it Is there any hope to make that new 460 a peppier saw. So disappointed!!! Thank you Andy from Indiana.
@junkman41262 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the vids, I found you because my Homelite Super XL with a 24" bar and chain from the '70s seized up on me today while cutting up a 55-foot red-oak tree that fell across my private driveway during a storm blocking me in. I had no gas for it so I took it from my car's gas tank with ethanol, mixed it with 2 stroke oil, and by the time I was done trimming and cutting up the branches, which was more like cutting up 10 trees my poor Homelite saw smoked and died. After watching your vids I am considering the CS590 Echo, I am just wondering how many different size bars and chains can I run on it? Or can anyone answer because at times a 24" was too much for the job at hand and at times it was not enough? I would like to buy 3 different size chains and bars for it. No matter what it must be able to handle a 24" bar and chain.
@travisweldmaster78152 жыл бұрын
I'm either doing something really right or wrong because I NEVER used a spark arrestor and have cut around dark plenty of times...only sparks I've ever seen might come off the bar...never light out my exhaust???