ECHO PB-8010 and PB-9010 COMMON PROBLEMS/REVIEW

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Wallys Workin

Жыл бұрын

I discuss the PB-8010 and PB-9010 common problems and what to look for if you decide to buy one new or used.

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@LongshotGarage Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great info. All this will be good to know as soon as these are flying out of Cali at discount prices.

@scottdarichuk1436 8 ай бұрын

Just bought a 9010T. Great info. Subbed.

@pablogarcia526 Жыл бұрын

Hi I have the 8010 2018 first model issues on mine tube straps and 3 day ago the carburetor I install the new one and I’m so impressed runs better than when it was new

@josecaratachea5120 Жыл бұрын

Lets gooo. Been waiting for this Video. Thanks

@KeepItMowed Жыл бұрын

I made a review of mine a while back after using it daily in a solo operation. First off, they're a beast. My 9010T has been great except for the swivel pipe part, it catches and wore out fairly quickly. I don't have the fancy newer straps, mine didn't come with a chest strap, but not an issue unless wearing a wind breaker. I use Echo Gold mix and mine.

@cbnx82703 Жыл бұрын

Big problem with the starter bolts loosening off and wallowing out the mounting hole, have had very many with that issue , also the ignition kill wire harness behind the fuel tank rubs through next to the throttle cable routing , poor routing , solved the problem with added shrink tubing for insulation...!

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Yes I forgot about the wiring for the tube mount throttle behind the tank also, great point! I don’t see starter issues since they changed the bolts and started using lock-tight. We would drill them out and add Time-Sert’s to fix them in the past.

@robertpiontkowski2164 Жыл бұрын

Great video!!! If u we’re buying a new blower which would u choose, Echo 9010T or the new Redmax 8560 I can’t decide and why?? Thanks!! Thumbs up on the video 👍🏻

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Tough choice but I tend to lean towards the Redmax, they seem to run longer and tolerant more abuse. I did a video on the Redmax explaining their faults as well.

@paulnerney2014 Жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks for the info. I really like Echo power tools. I have aCS501P saw and a 8010 (early one)along with other tools and have to say the 8010 is its a great machine. I am an above average use home owner but for sure not a pro. I was wondering if the dirt being sucked in around the post filter intake tube could be the cause of the cylinder scoring you showed.? All that dirt has to be doing something bad to the engine.!

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

It certainly doesn’t help things. Echo did have a clearance issue with pistons which they have fixed.

@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Жыл бұрын

Good info; I used to be a Redmax blower guy, but this new Echo 2 cycle equipment is pretty nice. How do you adjust the idle on the old 8010 carb; you said it's on the top? Do you have to pop the black cover off?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Yes, take the cover off and in the center of the throttle barrel is the screw. You will need a tool called a micro “D” or baby “D” adjustment tool. The Proline micro D 91059 is good but you’ll need to shorten the tool or take off the air filter assembly to get access to the screw.

@WilliamClock-gs1wb Жыл бұрын

Great video Wally! I have a PB-8010T that was built during the very beginning of the 3rd production run and I wanted to get your opinion if Echo may have made all the updates to the blower for the final production run? My blower was inspected by a dealer for the recall and was verified that it was built with the new straps but I'm not sure if the recall included checking the torque of the cylinder screws. Also, since Echo has not published a technical data sheet for the 8010, do you have the recommended torque for the following screws: Cylinder to block Carburetor to cylinder Spark plug Exhaust to cylinder Thanks for your excellent video content and a great channel!

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Most of the issues have been resolved on the late 8010 and 9010 models. Don't worry too much about torque specs, these engines don't need to be that precise. Get a good "T Handle" T27 and tighten everything up, just don't go crazy. But basically, cylinders are between 70-80 inch pounds, carb to cyl and muffler 30-40 and tighten the spark plug until you feel the "crush washer" bottom out, it's probably in that 40-50 inch pound range. I'll see if I can find some info from Echo.

@alanmw86 Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 9010 or br 800?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@alanmw86 9010

@TheGameBoy56 Жыл бұрын

Great video wat oil do u recommend personally I’m home owner bought 9010 and I ordered some dominator racing oil the 2 stroke from ansoil Wanna give it try

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

I recommend any of the oils from the manufactures like Stihl, Echo, Redmax and so on. Amsoil is great to! We have a lot of commercial customers using it with no issues.

@mikefaulk8406 2 ай бұрын

I've got a 9010. Powerful blower but haven't been able to the short block from wearing out

@clarencebassett5099 Жыл бұрын

Very good video. I have a couple of 8010’s and 9010’s that will run very strong for about 10 minutes and then will just keep bogging down. You let it sit for a while and it will repeat the same cycle. Any suggestions on what the problem is? Thanks in advance. Clarence the owner of Cut Close Lawn Care LLC here in Virginia

@arngreencare8955 11 ай бұрын

Worn out.

@kick_then_shift 4 ай бұрын

Having a weird issue with mine once it warms up when I first hit the throttle there's a clacking sound but just when you first hit the throttle full rpm it runs fine. I am seeing alot of fuel build up around the engine that's not coming from the tank. Is that the crank case seal that i see people speaking about?

@Amy-ot4jg 3 ай бұрын

I had five of them and the only issue other than the early models with the straps bogging down issues feel like fuel filters don't allow enough fuel in I run red armor Echo oil and mid-grade non-ethanol gas there is typically a decent amount of carbon on the spark plug could my problems be because I'm not running a high enough octane fuel

@eugenecrabs3954 Жыл бұрын

Hey man, If I want to run a 40:1 mix in the 9010, how would I tune the carb? I run 40:1 in all my stuff because I believe it lubricates and cools better without being too dirty or smoky. I dont want to run 40:1 in a machine tuned for 50:1.

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

If it’s running normally on 40:1 don’t worry about the adjustment. The difference between 50 and 40 is very minimal. The type of fuel you use is more important.

@Natureboy1457 9 ай бұрын

Hi Wally .I'm replacing the short block on my pb8010t and I was wondering how do you remove the starter recoil part off of the crankshaft? Do you just pound it off or is it threaded on ? I don't think it's threaded but I'm afraid to try and pound it. Thanks. I believe its called the starter Pawl that I'm referring to 13:21

@wallysworkin823 9 ай бұрын

That is the flywheel, take the nut off, you will see two holes that are threaded, take 2 of the bolts that hold the engine to the housing and screw them into those holes. Slowly tighten the bolts until they bottom out on the engine case, keep tightening them until the flywheel pops off. The crankshaft is tapered.

@Natureboy1457 9 ай бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 WALLY YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!!!! I had to go to the hardware store and buy 2 longer bolts because the ones from the housing weren't long enough, and I had to place a piece of thin steel underneath so the bolts would grab but it worked! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!❤❤

@ethanbeard4985 Жыл бұрын

I have an early model 8010 been on the second top end. Can I put a newer 9010 bolt right on to maybe get past the early cylinder clearance issues

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

You can do that, yes.

@dskrpncs 7 ай бұрын

How do I fix the sluggish accelleration on the 8010 on a cold start?

@danielvandermerwe7921 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the Stihl 800 or the echo 9010? Maintenance,longevity, and ect..

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

I would lean towards the Echo. The BR800 is good but I don’t like the vibration and we keep seeing lots of muffler issues. The Stihl will be more fuel efficient but parts are more expensive.

@danielvandermerwe7921 Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Love your videos

@adambatchelder4121 Жыл бұрын

Would you recommend the new 9010 over the other brand big blowers? I'm looking to buy one. Ive normally bought stihl saws but really don't like the 4 mix end i think they use in the big stihl blower .

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

I would yes, Echo has fixed a lot of the small issues with the 9010. It’s holding Up well. Some complain about the tubes being heavy which I agree with.

@adambatchelder4121 Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 ok thanks , ya I just watched your video on the big stihl and I think ill go for the echo,

@nunjaso Жыл бұрын

I don't want to buy a stihl br800 cause of the 4 stroke. This echo9010 was my choice, but now I found out, that it isn't available in Europe, so bad 😣 What do you think about the husky bts580? Thanks for the response

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

The Husky/Redmax is a solid unit. Check out my video on the Redmax common problems, they are pretty much the same blower. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNdlnK56tZ-4in0.html

@guy15124 Жыл бұрын

If you had to choose the best most reliable blower right now which would it be?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Oh man, well I would lean towards a PB-770. I can honestly say I see very few 770’s for major problems. I replace quite a few throttle cables (which is a little bit of a pain) but that’s it other than normal maintenance. They’re not the most powerful but reliable. A Redmax 7500 would be my second choice.

@judetaylor7544 Жыл бұрын

If I hone the cylinder head, due to scoring, should I replace the piston ring or rings ?? Thanks for the information.

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

You don’t need to as long as they don’t have any big gouges on them or damaged. Make sure they move freely in the ring lands is the big thing.

@arngreencare8955 11 ай бұрын

Durability I think they stink. Mine lasted two seasons and has alot of compression loss and hard to restart. Broke two frames, flex hoses, intake, among other things failed. In light of Stihl's wrist pin issues, Redmax still has the best blower...

@kick_then_shift 4 ай бұрын

Going into season 4 and I think I'm having wrist pin issue.

@kick_then_shift 4 ай бұрын

Other than that the 8010 has been a badass blower.

@melecio306 Жыл бұрын

Any idea why my 770 bogs down and stutters? The plug always has gunk between electrodes once cleaned off it works just fine Fuel mix issue? Spark plug gap?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Make sure you use a good oil and high octane fuel. If you are seeing little balls of carbon on the plug try running premium fuel or ethanol free fuel. You can open up the gap on the plug a little if it continues.

@whiskeyblood7258 10 ай бұрын

I had an 8010 and it would die at idle. If I didn’t keep giving throttle it would cut out. I brought it in under warranty, fixed for a while then the same problem came back. Did you see this as a reoccurring issue with these models? Was there a solution?

@joshschuetz5088 9 ай бұрын

Do you use premium mixed gas? And does it get cold often? Sounds like a carb issue, see if there's an idle screw to give a few turns.

@michaelh6667 7 ай бұрын

Im having a gogging issue on my 9010, about 8hrs. I can clean the fuel filter and it will do fine for about one short job then back to the same.

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@jaketurtle6569 7 ай бұрын

I am a consumer, and my new 9010T blower worked great in the first season, but in the second season, the blower started to have compression issues and was hard to start. I always use 50:1 fuel in my 2-cycle equipment to ensure good performance. I took my 9010T to an Echo dealer, and they are telling me I have abused the blower because there is scaring inside the cylinder and the compression is low. I stand by the fact that I have to use 50:1 fuel as that is all I stock in my garage for 2-cycle equipment. So, after 2 years of use with my equipment as a consumer, the Echo dealer is stating the ECHO factory may not honor replacement blower parts to fix the issue. The dealer has had my blower for over 5 months and still doesn't have an answer from the Echo factory. Would you happen to know what I can do next?

@zacharypulido1424 7 ай бұрын

Same thing just happened to me not even two years it’s been running good and and it just died and there telling me the piston is scored and due to not enough mixture which I know I mix right all my other equipment has been running fine

@dmishaw9998 Жыл бұрын

My 9010 will do fine at high speeds and after awhile running it. It bogs down like the choke is on. But if you turn it off then back on it will be okay for a bit but go back to bogging down

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Could be a simple carb adjustment but check your filters and fuel line.

@shawnmcdevitt1479 Жыл бұрын

I have the same problem with my 2 9010s. Any luck with fixing it?

@emmanuelgonzalez9602 Жыл бұрын

@@shawnmcdevitt1479mine turned out to be a clogged in tank fuel filter

@shawnmcdevitt1479 Жыл бұрын

@@emmanuelgonzalez9602 thank you!

@Kapo2785 4 ай бұрын

How to you take the impeller off? Is it pressed on? I took the bolt off & it won't budge

@wallysworkin823 4 ай бұрын

It’s a tapered shaft with a key. Loosen the nut so it’s flush with end of the crank and give it a few light taps with a hammer.

@phlips01 Жыл бұрын

My 8010 will cold start and run fine but if you try to turn in off and start it again it will not start. After a few hours it will start...any idea as to what's wrong with it? Great video thank you.

@greenviewlandscaping524 Жыл бұрын

Your gas tank might not be venting. Unscrew the gas cap and see if you hear any pressure being released. Screw the gas cap back on and try starting it

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

As stated poss vent issue or a spark issue. Coil failure is common when they get hot then once they cool it will restart. Check your spark after it dies.

@dadandgirls7306 8 ай бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 But it runs fine until you shut it off, then it won't start again until it cools down. If its a vent or spark issue, why would it run fine until you manually shut it down? I would think it would die on its own if either of those two problems were present.

@damonbyrd612 Жыл бұрын

We have a few 8010 with the piston scoring trouble is worth fixing??

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

If the rest of the blower is in good condition go for it.

@damonbyrd612 Жыл бұрын

I have a few questions. How can be reached??

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@damonbyrd612 sawdoff84@gmail.com

@victormunoz15 Жыл бұрын

How do you adjust the carburetor? 9010

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Echo requires a tool called a “micro D” just do a general search for Micro D adjustment tool and you’ll find it. The low side adjustment is on the top of the carb in the center of the throttle barrel and high side is on the side of the carb just above where the fuel lines hook up.

@pablogarcia526 Жыл бұрын

Also I’m on 80:1 mix

@jaydencabral181 26 күн бұрын

my 9010 leaks a bit of reddish oil around the carburetor is that normal??

@wallysworkin823 26 күн бұрын

I’m assuming your 2 cycle oil is red? A little bit is normal but make sure the 4 manifold bolts and the carb is tight. Also make sure the exhaust port is clean. A clogged exhaust will cause excess oil in the intake.

@jaydencabral181 26 күн бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 yes the 2 cycle oil i use is red i use trufuel but how much oil would you say is too much around the carb?

@wallysworkin823 26 күн бұрын

@@jaydencabral181well it shouldn’t be dripping, a lot of times I see just a light film. I do recommend getting away from trufuel there are a few videos out there talking about its poor quality. I find it doesn’t burn effectively. I recommend VP or Aspen.

@jaydencabral181 26 күн бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 ya it definitely isn’t dripping everywhere but it is a little more than a light film

@MarkHanksJr Жыл бұрын

What should the compression (psi) be on a echo ph 8010?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Right in the 140psi range.

@MarkHanksJr Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 the one I’m working on that’s running real weak reads at 115 psi. It starts fine, but has low power and if I spray carb cleaner in the intake it’ll run full power Like it’s supposed to. Do you know what that could be?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@MarkHanksJr Compression is a little low. Check the cylinder for scaring or stuck piston rings. Check the low side adjustment on the carb as well.

@MarkHanksJr Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 it has scaring on the cylinder wall and the piston is burnt on the side. Are other good running blowers are running at 120 psi.

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@MarkHanksJr 120 a little low for that engine. If you feel up to it, pull the cylinder and see if the rings are stuck to the piston. If they are carefully try to pry them off, sometimes you can sometimes you can’t. If you can take some sand paper or emery cloth and clean the grooves on the piston so the rings will move freely. As I said in my video I’ve done that before and it ran for a long time.

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@wallysworkin823 Ай бұрын

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@kristinejackson8268 Жыл бұрын

Crank bearing failure thats not good and you have 2 in your shop that need fixing. What caused them too fail?

@jimholan4366 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the useful informations. My echo 9010 run full power just fine for like 10-15mins and then the power dropped down, anyone have the same problem and have any clue of what is the problem might be, mine just out of the warranty: (

@joseortiz7665 Жыл бұрын

Mine does the same thing. Did you find out what problem was?

@matthewlester6638 Жыл бұрын

Bought 2 9010s and after about a month of leaf removals 1 of them runs fine and the other bogs down after 10-15 minutes as well...

@Tungstencube66 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewlester6638 My 8010 is doing the same. I just saw another video of Echo blower bog down and he adjusted the high screw anti clockwise it's lack of gas basically

@matthewlester6638 Жыл бұрын

@@Tungstencube66 you have a link to the video?

@Tungstencube66 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewlester6638 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atCRqqd81rvcdGQ.html

@georgeghostrider1813 Жыл бұрын

A question please. I am interested in buying a back blower. I'm between the Echo BP 8010 and the Stihl BR 800 C-E. Who would you recommend and why?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

I would go with the PB-9010. They just seem to be more reliable lately.

@ronaldmachesky7177 Жыл бұрын

No less than 32:1 the epa 50:1 isn't good for the bearings.

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

Depends on the oil, I have customers running AMSOIL at 80:1 and 100:1 with no issues.

@kennethalbert4653 Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 Ha! I came to ask about this as well. I am old, my RM-80 reccomended 20:1 ! My question (due to your comment about bearing failures)...Do you think it would be beneficial to increase the mixture ratio? If so what do you think is ideal?

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@kennethalbert4653 Are we talking for the Suzuki or a blower? lol. If you’re using any good name brand oil 50:1 is just fine. The bearing failures I’ve seen were part failures and had nothing to do with ratios.

@kennethalbert4653 Жыл бұрын

@@wallysworkin823 ha, for the Blower (I have a PB9010). Just seems like a drastic change from the past.

@wallysworkin823 Жыл бұрын

@@kennethalbert4653 well those old air cooled two strokes like lots of oil. Engines and the oil have changed quite a bit as you know. I rode a 1981 RM250 when I was kid, unbelievable how good bikes are nowadays.