I remember reading this years ago as a kid! The Alderaanian cruisers were always so cool to me.

@9:00 "Immediately noticing the new Republic Presence." You meant to say Thyferra Liberation Fleet, right? Edit: @10:35 "and to the surprise of the Empire..." You meant to say surprise to the Admiral of the Lusyanka and his staff, right? Edit 2: You keep talking about Rogue Squadron, but they had the Twi'leks, the Gand, and the fighter compliment from the Freedom as support. That's enough fighters to provide escort for the torpedo raids (and for the freighters), and the Tie Bombers probably did damage themselves, with freighters possibly using their telemetry too.

Justin can you please do a Super Star Destroyer vs The Earth? I mean like all of the Earth’s Military combined against a Super Star Destroyer.

Hey eckhart what do you use to create the maps of the battles?

Is that the Battlestar Galactica I see at 5:53

They refused to do anything... because... politics. (Also, the author needed Rogue Squadron to do it on their own... plot holes exist... some can't be ignored.) I think the plot holes in the four books were created because the author was rushed into writing the plot and the books to meet the deadline he didn't know existed as he wasn't informed that he won the bid to write the first four novels until Lucasfilm reached out to him and informed him they there were a few days before the deadline.

*Fine, we'll do it ourselves, AGAIN

And then New Republic takes all credit.

@@aralornwolf3140 They refused to do anything ...because...politics. And because they knew that Rogue Squadron, who had just finished taking down Coruscant from the inside using a bit of slicing and a handful of Z-95s, would do it for them off the books. I mean, come on - they're _rebels._

Also Rogue Squadron: And then we'll replace the entire ineffective "government". : )

It's funny as Admiral Drommel's subordinate killed him for similar reasons and turned over the Super Star Destroyer Guardian to the New Republic, so the New Republic got both its Star Dreadnoughts because a sane subordinate executed their insane commander and surrendered the ships rather than kamikaze pointlessly.

Just imagine that guy shouts "all in favour of mutiny?" and everyone raises their hands.

@@demi-femme4821The Captain: Ooooohhh Noooooooo

C: ''Why are you asking this now? Why didn't you ask this question when you were posted on the Avarice, Devastator or the Death Star?''

tHE emPiRe diD nOTHinG WrONg

@@TheNobleFive ikr. _An empire_ may have been best for the galaxy _in hindsight_ knowing about all the extra galactic threats, but _the Empire_ was irredeemably evil, founded upon a false war, built on the bones of a religious genocide, and ushered in by a slave army which kept power through fear and was run by space-satan.

There is an in-universe explanation for this in one of the Legends books (can't for the life of me remember which). Basically Palpatine did it deliberately. The outwardly "for the good of the galaxy" spin on Imperial actions through propaganda with the undertone of evil from things like ship names etc provided a dark side twist to the entire imperial armed forces that pleased him.

To be fair, destroyer is a ship class. A star destroyer is not a destroyer of stars but a destroyer in the stars. Like star cruiser or starfighter.

I agree👍

I agree👍

I also agree

They are good, clean action novels. I think they are the novel equivalents of very good popcorn movies. Very entertaining and easy to read, but not necessarily pinnacles of literary art.

same bro

@@timberwolf1575 fair point, and since I was ten when I started them, it was a good fit. Same with his Battletech series

I slightly prefer Allston's. Better funny moments, better sad moments.

​@@timberwolf1575 In other words, they perfectly encapsulate the spirit of the Star Wars movies themselves. There's no shame in doing something simple exceptionally well, and I think most people looking for "pinnacles" in some high art sense probably aren't going to be looking for that in something called "the X-wing series." Like, "oh, this taco is good, but it's not a $100 aged steak." Why does it have to be? Why even bring that up? Why can't it just be a really good taco?

Came here for this!

Saw that too. Glad someone else saw it. lol

I see she also has backup with the Forward Unto Dawn and a klingon bird of prey?

@@Lambomurcielago670 Forward Unto Dawn? Yes. Bird of Prey? No, you're seeing either a Marauder-class corvette or the Ebon Hawk from KOTOR. But somehow the Rogues got their hands on the Galaxy Gun, even though it wouldn't be built for several years.

@@AesonDaandryk so did Adama

The strategy was based on (what happens too often) imperial incompetence, thus it was actually bad. Your strategy should never rely on your enemy doing only as you want them to. That it worked was down to a heavy dose of plot armour and imperial incompetence. So you have a fleet of small ships, none of which can stand up to an ISD in a direct firefight, and you put them up against something that out guns an ISD 50 to 1, and your entire plan is "I hope they keep switching targets". It could have just targeted the entire fleet at once and finished them off without any effort really. On the occasions it focussed fire on a ship, it would have melted that ship in a single volley, your talking about over (saying only 25% of weapons can target a ship at once) 500 turbolasers, 500 heavy turbo lasers, 60 ion cannons, that volley would kill an ISD (and the 2 more behind it). Also hiding near the engines, the engines are covered by more firepower than an ISD can bring to bear. A SSD is litterally covered in guns and has no real blind spots unlike ISD's, size let's you fix those issues.

@@cgi2002 Well, it was obvious that either A) it didn't matter all that much, because SSDs just aren't that impressive, or B) the Imperials screwed up by the numbers. Either way, the idea that it 'drastically' increased the power of the New Republic's military is silly; they got one _Imperial_ out of the tens of thousands in service and a crippled _Executor_ that probably would take almost as long to repair as a new build would take (although, admittedly, I don't think the Republic had a shipyard capable of building an _Executor_ hull from scratch at that point.) Then again, IIRC, the _Lusankya_ wasn't built in a shipyard but by the power of urban renewal, so...

@@boobah5643 even then the lusankya was still fully repaired and even upgraded, it helped alot in the battle against the yuuzhan vong war, SSD's are that impressive as they need an insane amount of firepower to take down, and high risk strategies, and are even more dangerous when accompanied by a fleet, rogue squadron was lucky that the 2 isds that the lusankya once had were on their side

@@boobah5643 it was built in a shipyard (both fondor and kuat claimed to have built the executor) fondor version was then renamed, buried via sith majic??? And was supposed to be palpatines getaway ship

@@robland3253 Maybe the Super Star Destroyer has been secretly assembled ? The books do point out that the Empire has been remodeling the place left and right. One way to do it is to sneak the parts needed, and build them down there. Like for example by repurposing those massive skyscraper building drones. The big plot hole either way is how could it have been kept as a complete secret considering the possible amount of people involved.

So really, Freedom isn't Free.

Not just the books, supposedly it's getting the live action treatment too. 🤞

A lot of the time, they need to scale back their military so they don't become an echo of the very faction they just defeated, but they often go to far and don't take any measures to prevent another group from militarizing and radicalizing.

Honestly, until Sequel Trilogy, Star Wars didn't have a problem with overly downgrading their navies post war. Maintaining a navy is expensive... and when one doesn't have a foe to combat, then the extra ships are a drain of financial, material, and population resources. Look at what the vast majority of nations did with their navies post WWI and WWII. After WWI, there was a treaty signed by the participants which reduced the size of their fleets and mandated a maximum ship size for capital ships (ignore the false classifications in Star Wars, capital ships are battlecruisers and larger). The outliers of that trend (post WWII) were the belligerents of the Cold War... even then, only the USA has maintained a War Fleet while being relatively at peace on the seas... Aircraft Carrier groups make for expensive anti-piracy task groups. Which is why the complaints about USA military spending is very vocal by the civilian population. In Legends, the Old Republic won a war... and then had a 1,000 years of peace, so it didn't need a navy with large amounts of capital ships... it just needed enough of them in strategic locations (shipyards, supply depots, fleet bases, important systems, etc.) to be able to respond to any threat quickly with just the available capital ships. Most of the navy would be corvettes, frigates, and destroyers which are the ships designed for anti-piracy patrols and they call in cruisers when they identify pirate bases. Only pirates with strong financial backing (being used as mercenaries/privateers) would be able to have ships capable of seriously threatening medium combatants (light and heavy cruisers). The expense of maintaining a capital ship would be beyond them. When the Trade Federation blockaded Naboo, which was an act of war, the Chancellor didn't involve the Republic Navy because he wanted to end the conflict with negotiations (a settlement to end the crisis peacefully) instead of dealing with civil war. In the aftermath of the Trade Federation's failure, their droid command ships were removed from their possession by the Republic (later used by Admiral Tarkin to assault a neutral planet... which escaped into hyperspace) stripping them of their ability to protect many of their installations. At the start of the Clone Wars the Trade Federation convinced thousands of other systems to cede from the Republic, while they were building new droids and droid command ships. This violation of the treaty forced the Republic to declare the CIS to be a threat and mobilized their navy to deal with them... although the Republic was caught by surprise, it still had enough capital ships that the two sides had parity. Once the Republic started to get new ships, new soldiers trained, the war was going to be lost by the CIS, so they attacked Coruscant (which ended the Clone Wars and the Republic). The Galactic Civil War ended, which lasted for more than 15 years, with a peace treaty between the much reduced Empire and the New Republic. The only opponents the New Republic had were minor War Lords which they didn't need a large fleet to crush so they reduced their fleet strength to a much more reasonable level. The only time the New Republic reduced their fleet strength too much was at the time of Ambush at Corellia when a third of their commissioned "in service" ships were in dock hands. They weren't available to squash that rebellion promptly. Added to the complication was a system wide (light month+ wide) interdiction field and systems with habitable planets were being destroyed (which tied up the Republic's resources as the ships they used to get refugees out of those systems were the same ships required to service a fleet they needed to deal with the threat). However, after several months, certainly less than a year, the Republic did have a fleet large enough to destroy/capture the rebel's ships at Centerpoint Station. Looking at the Sequel Trilogy... The Empire was utterly defeated, due to Operation Cinder and ships heading off to form the First Order, in a single year. The remaining Imperial holdouts surrendered and they signed a peace treaty drastically reducing the fleet strength and prohibiting proton torpedoes (instead of "death star tech"). After about 30 years of peace and totally ignoring the First Order's activities, and the materials the First Order needed to build a fleet, let alone a planet sized super weapon, the New Republic Navy was utterly destroyed with Not-Coruscant. Leaving the Resistance, with 1 capital ship, to defeat the First Order by itself. Then, a year later, they find out that the Final Order also built thousands, possibly tens of thousands of ships, each using "death star tech" and are capable of destroying entire planets. They simply sat around in a planetary atmosphere so that JJ Abrams can have a climatic victory by the Rebels 2.0 over Palpatine against all rationally written odds. But, who knows what happens after this... as the entire galaxy was destroyed by fans everywhere.

@@michaelandreipalon359 Eh, you say "war allergic civvies", but I mean, they're pretty justifiable in being anti-war. The whole point of the Rebellion was to destroy the Empire and restore the Republic, and besides, like other people have said, maintaining a standing army/navy that big can't be cheap. If there was no immediate need to have a standing army, and it was unpopular with the people, any decent government would downscale it at least.

The demilitarization in canon I found even more silly. Like, why would they even do that at all? It’s so stupid.

The Ruusan Reformation dismantled a central Republic fleet in exchange for lots of large planetary defence forces, which made sense when trying to defend against a overwhelming Sith fleet, but it also made it easier for individual planets and systems to secede, and limited the Republic's offensive capabilities. But it did make some sense in light of what happened during the New Sith Wars. The New Republic's strategy of complete demilitarization and turning a blind eye to everything is basically a trauma effect of the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War, but it was idiotic strategically. These two are very different.

I add Iron Fist there to

@@paulrasmussen8953 razors kiss was a great plot line; especially with the Wraiths involved (love that crew).

He had what looked like a miniature Galactica, the Ebon Hawk, a Frigate from Halo, a Marauder class corvette, a Rendilli Drive yards Dreadnought and the Millennium Falcon. Sos if I missed one.

@@seawind930 Im sure that i see the galaxy gun

Also a Unsc frigate I believe xD

Is Thrawn in possession of Human Art?

@@allnamesaretakenful I'm pretty sure Thrawn would be able to acquire examples of it relatively easily.

@@allnamesaretakenful it’s a one off battle with neither admiral knowing anything about the other.

I feel like it would only be a matter of how long before the battle devolved into Ender ramming his ships into Thrawn's. That was pretty much his defining genius tactic.

@@scoman91 yeah. OSC couldn't write space battles, idk why. I haven't read more than the next 2 or 3 books but I don't remember him improving in that respect.

Additionally have you ever thought about doing ground battle breakdowns or Lightfights as Corran calls them in Rouges squadron

Films are limited by the budget; books are limited by the imagination of the authors.

Kell Tainer trying to rescue Admiral Ackbars niece was the pinnacle for me. One of the best scenes in a Star Wars book from an action angle seeing what a determined pilot could do; and an emotional aspect of just how utterly decimating it can be to fail when doing everything right (Picards, legendary, line to Data in TNG).

Epic as this is, the books only got better after this. The next three books follow Wraith Squadron (a brand new unit developed after lessons learned from this mission made Wedge realize they needed a commando unit that just happened to have X-Wings) and the hunt for another SSD, the Iron Fist. Three books of carefully tracking down and working their way through a former Imperial admiral-turned-warlord's breakaway mini-Empire to get a shot at taking down a SSD actively wrecking havoc across the galaxy (in the book prior to the one this video covers, Iron Fist destroys a flotilla of civilian freighters attempting to bring much-needed bacta to Coruscant which is why it was targeted next. Lusankya had the priority, but Iron Fist was selected as being the next focus once Isard was dealt with).

Mr. Eckhart, listen to the Duke of Wellington, or else he might punch you softly.