A Nation's future should never hinge on the proclivities of any single person. Voters on both sides are exactly the same. Both turn into triggered name calling fascists whenever someone challenges their beliefs and both accuse anyone who doesn't parrot their assigned talking points of supporting the other party. Thus the supporters of both parties have hijacked and sold out the rest of humanity for the sake of their own egos and lack of imagination. And this is how they've controlled us from the dawn of the 20th century, where they pit us against each other, seed the debate with misinformation, a little populism, some catchy epithets, and go about their plunder completely unopposed. All representatives will always be subject to influence from monetary interests, blackmail, or assassination. The solution is a velvet revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy without representatives and politicians Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote for their own policies without politicians. *Thorium energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete* *#VelvetRevolution* *#ScaledDirectDemocracy* *ThoriumEnergy* Thorium energy can process both nuclear and toxic waste as well as perform salt water desalination, carbon sequestration, and synthetic fuel production/ electricity for road/rail transport energyfromthorium.com/ "The thorium molten salt power plant can produce clean energy cheaper than coal, which could be reliable energy system toward a low-carbon economy," PAL said. www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-nuclearpower-idUSKCN1UD0D0 If the profits from American labour were shared equally, as they are with Corporate Shareholders, every household would receive $700k a year. If we got even a fraction of that amount we would have more than enough to fund education, healthcare and infrastructure for everybody. 52% of all Greenhouse gases come from methane produced by Beef farming, which is 90% subsidised. Ending Beef Communism and embracing Hemp as a moonshot technology alongside Kelp farming for use in packaging, construction, and manufacturing provides an alternative means for land rehabilitation, food production, and industrial oils, as well as medicines, insulation, and clothing. It would also be conducive for there to be an independent public authority drawing from volunteers to act as advocates for the public interest, with the authority to both observe police and govt interactions with the public, and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. This would ensure law enforcement and government agencies are held to a high standard of etiquette and ethical behaviour for everyone, regardless of their creed, color, or economic bracket.

@Benjamin Esterberg it's not the billionaire who's bad, it's the system of economics. But then you knew that .

@@orchestratedapocalypse758 does permafrost melting put out more methane than cattle?

@Benjamin Esterberg I know the billionaire Trump said he was going to bring manufacturing back to the United States but isn't he still making his maga hats in China?

@Benjamin Esterberg i think we both agree that Alang beach is the libertarian paradise that we should all want.

Yes many are borrowing significantly to become misinformed. This is the best economics channel.

we are a nation of gullible non-critical thinkers

BeeFriendlyApiary trump was right about that. And he used it to his advantage.

in china. one only need to pay 800 dollars a year for education. even if you still can't afford it, the government gave you a loan with zero interest for about eight years

Still, why are none of you discussing solutions, what the hell is wrong with you people?! A Nation's future should never hinge on the proclivities of any single person. Voters on both sides are exactly the same. Both turn into triggered name calling fascists whenever someone challenges their beliefs and both accuse anyone who doesn't parrot their assigned talking points of supporting the other party. Thus the supporters of both parties have hijacked and sold out the rest of humanity for the sake of their own egos and lack of imagination. And this is how they've controlled us from the dawn of the 20th century, where they pit us against each other, seed the debate with misinformation, a little populism, some catchy epithets, and go about their plunder completely unopposed. All representatives will always be subject to influence from monetary interests, blackmail, or assassination. The solution is a velvet revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy without representatives and politicians Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote for their own policies without politicians. *Thorium energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete* *#VelvetRevolution* *#ScaledDirectDemocracy* *ThoriumEnergy* Thorium energy can process both nuclear and toxic waste as well as perform salt water desalination, carbon sequestration, and synthetic fuel production/ electricity for road/rail transport energyfromthorium.com/ "The thorium molten salt power plant can produce clean energy cheaper than coal, which could be reliable energy system toward a low-carbon economy," PAL said. www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-nuclearpower-idUSKCN1UD0D0 If the profits from American labour were shared equally, as they are with Corporate Shareholders, every household would receive $700k a year. If we got even a fraction of that amount we would have more than enough to fund education, healthcare and infrastructure for everybody. 52% of all Greenhouse gases come from methane produced by Beef farming, which is 90% subsidised. Ending Beef Communism and embracing Hemp as a moonshot technology alongside Kelp farming for use in packaging, construction, and manufacturing provides an alternative means for land rehabilitation, food production, and industrial oils, as well as medicines, insulation, and clothing. It would also be conducive for there to be an independent public authority drawing from volunteers to act as advocates for the public interest, with the authority to both observe police and govt interactions with the public, and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. This would ensure law enforcement and government agencies are held to a high standard of etiquette and ethical behaviour for everyone, regardless of their creed, color, or economic bracket.

Oh yeah, that's the same intellect that writes things like "Competition causes monopoly, and monopoly causes competition", right?

@@clarestucki5151 Who wrote that? Citation please.

@@Rodrifuuu R D Wolff wrote that sometime earlier this yr, in one of his regular weekly articles. Dumbest economic statement I ever read.

@@clarestucki5151 SOURCE.

@@Rodrifuuu "Source" was my eyes and ears. I listen to every one of Wolff's weekly "Economic Update" posts, and most of his intermediate ones. I didn't record the date of the specific article where he said that. You can review them yourself if you need the specific date.

And if they want to survive, it will grow or their generation will perish.

@s I agree it would not be a person, which is why I said symbol of robin hood. A NGO would be more fitting to actually play the roll, but could possibly see some sort of coop NGO which makes decisions after "stealing" the money from all the central banks... would at least be a nice fantasy novel since it is impractical

@joyceann011 That is a better word to use :)

Best alternative is to not give it away in the first place. Most companies I have worked for gave me 3-5% of the *profits* I created. The rest is the board of directors money. The rich get rich by other peoples work...as always.

Why steal from them? They should go back to paying taxes like the rest of us.

@Asskhole Snarkerson That is easy. They underpay and tell you that they are doing it for your own good. The super rich do nothing for the economy because the economy needs a continuing transfusion of money to keep functioning. Investment is not work for pay and therefore is virtually inert. Humans need to work.

Hannah Arendt was a con artist. Anyone who equates Communists with Nazis, Fascists, or other authoritarian "strong men," is someone serving the interests of the ruling elite.

@@itzenormous Aurhoritarian is authoritarian whatever its costume. Socialism has non-authoritarian forms and Soviet-style Communism wasn't one of them.

@s Nice -- and interestingly cogent --- analysis and I don't disagree. BUT, you'll have to forgive me. For, as a biologist, placing natural science over the human contrivance of economics. Logically, if we take off the blinders, Capitalism's most destructive totalitarian aspect is its failure to factor environmental impact into the costs of doing business. In the biosphere, everything else is reciprocity, give & take w/ controlling feedbacks. Aboriginal people got it; in contrast, feudalism evolving to capitalism took an authoritarian " gift-of-god" approach. The delusion that the planet/biosphere are there for our pleasure, at our disposal - biologically, nothing is further from the truth. That's the totalitarian aspect that's got a high likelihood of doing us in. [And it's not the earth that needs saving. Plenty of bacteria, fungi & other rapidly reproducing/adapting species would make it through even if we didn't.] Anyway, appreciate the discussion.

As long as Moore's law holds true, there is much farther for the economy to grow.

@@3jacen =All techno-addicts think Moore's law invalidates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Good luck with that.

It does hurt. Makes me wonder why someone like Prof Wolff even bothers with the human race at this point. Seems like a failed experiment. I have to assume all the nukes will be launched before something like socialism happens

No he doesn’t, why not have him debate a libertarian, or is he scaredy-cat, because he may sound like a fool?.

@@jimbodriver1015 we elected obama and trump right? we are obviously willing to take risks.

I was thinking about that scene the whole video XD

@@laserbrain7774 Obama wasn't a risk.

@@publicguy1664 Delusion or cognitive dissonance on your part.

You tellin' me we shouldn't be letting some moist bint tell us who our leaders should be?

People need to read 2 books: Karl Marx's "Capital" and Vladimir Lenin's "Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism." It takes an astute and patient person to read and fully grasp these all-important texts though.

I WISH PEOPLE WOULD BLOODY WELL START PROPOSING SOLUTIONS INSTEAD OF PASSIVE APATHY

@@orchestratedapocalypse758 Zeitgeist Movement for me.

@@ninadiamant8937 how do we get there, where's your path to success?

Agree lm still trying to conquer my own ignorance

Corporations campaigned themselves that way, they are recognized as people by law, and the population is undereducated and the food supply tainted to further disadvantage them mentally and physically.

They're Liberals. Liberals believe in that sort of nonsense. Or, they might be Conservatives. Not much difference, in the overall picture.

@chris younts Most foreign companies are in countries that are either socialist or Communist. US is unique

Because corporations are people. Duh. The Supreme Court told me so

@RUSSIAN ROBOT very silly

xavier deligne He perpetually blames capitalism for problems which have not connection to capitalism.

@@clarestucki5151 the system is capitalism the problem are caused by capitalism. You need to read Marx because everything he said about capitalism is now happening.

@@clarestucki5151 Capitalism leads to wealthy individuals wanting more, so they bribe politicians, and then it leads to Crony Capitalism. Crony capitalism provides for the corporations and strips away protections and assistance for the needy. It also erodes democracy because the system seeks to not be replaced when those on top have it so good. Control information, control workers (like waving healthcare over their heads), and create political apathy. We can do better than capitalism. Socialism is not anti-profit nor anti-competition.

@@ligmanewtons2523 The beauty of capitalism is, everybody who resents "wealthy individuals" can go into business for himself and try to become a 'wealthy individual' himself. Sorry to hear that you were unable to do so,

@@clarestucki5151 Not really, what about the trading marketing and banking system. This is part of the capitalist approach. Everything is up to be able to profit from at any cost. We cannot sustain that, on the only plant we all share. I also think that capitalism doesn't align with the human condition. Which thrives on collaboration not on 'dog-eat-dog'.

Of course. This is a war on consciousness/spirituality

It’s CIA propaganda. Simple as that. You should check out the recent Second Thought video it’s pretty compelling.

Right

people at core have the similar potential the world over. If the people of the Anglo West seem like gullible non-critical thinkers, then it's because the political/economic/media system we inhabit shapes us to be that.

A Nation's future should never hinge on the proclivities of any single person. Voters on both sides are exactly the same. Both turn into triggered name calling fascists whenever someone challenges their beliefs and both accuse anyone who doesn't parrot their assigned talking points of supporting the other party. Thus the supporters of both parties have hijacked and sold out the rest of humanity for the sake of their own egos and lack of imagination. And this is how they've controlled us from the dawn of the 20th century, where they pit us against each other, seed the debate with misinformation, a little populism, some catchy epithets, and go about their plunder completely unopposed. All representatives will always be subject to influence from monetary interests, blackmail, or assassination. The solution is a velvet revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy without representatives and politicians Citizen initiated referendums with thresholds and a social contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote for their own policies without politicians. *Thorium energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete* *#VelvetRevolution* *#ScaledDirectDemocracy* *ThoriumEnergy* Thorium energy can process both nuclear and toxic waste as well as perform salt water desalination, carbon sequestration, and synthetic fuel production/ electricity for road/rail transport energyfromthorium.com/ "The thorium molten salt power plant can produce clean energy cheaper than coal, which could be reliable energy system toward a low-carbon economy," PAL said. www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-nuclearpower-idUSKCN1UD0D0 If the profits from American labour were shared equally, as they are with Corporate Shareholders, every household would receive $700k a year. If we got even a fraction of that amount we would have more than enough to fund education, healthcare and infrastructure for everybody. 52% of all Greenhouse gases come from methane produced by Beef farming, which is 90% subsidised. Ending Beef Communism and embracing Hemp as a moonshot technology alongside Kelp farming for use in packaging, construction, and manufacturing provides an alternative means for land rehabilitation, food production, and industrial oils, as well as medicines, insulation, and clothing. It would also be conducive for there to be an independent public authority drawing from volunteers to act as advocates for the public interest, with the authority to both observe police and govt interactions with the public, and prosecute bad actors in our own courts. This would ensure law enforcement and government agencies are held to a high standard of etiquette and ethical behaviour for everyone, regardless of their creed, color, or economic bracket.

To be fair, we are a nation that has been raised into a domination-model society that has indoctrinated us into believing life has only two choices: to be dominating or to be dominated. To be the abuser or be the abused. Life is based on fear and this hijacks our brains and severely limits our thinking. Our minds are now solely focused on minimizing fear and numbing ourselves to the psychological pain of abuse through our addictions. There is no room for "critical thinking" much less hope that we can make the world a better place. Even those claiming to show us a way out are indoctrinated by this limited model. The only way out is to change ourselves by challenging what we have been raised to believe and value. To change the way we think. Humans are not born evil. We are not born selfish and greedy. This is a lie fed to us to keep us indoctrinated into the domination model. We currently have societies (like the Nordic countries and even the Canadian province of Quebec) that show compassion and nurturing citizens leads to a stronger and more creative society. Not a weaker one as we have falsely been led to believe. Capitalism is an economic system based on the model of domination. It's time to finally go is here.

Trees voting for the axe

Voting is part of a system which by its very design is against most people's interests. What's in our interest is revolution.

MMT explains this, and also why there are taxes anyway.

@R B If the government pays for its services without collecting taxes, the amount of currency in circulation goes up and up and up and you end up with hyperinflation. You have more dollars to compete with the amount of goods, and the money becomes worthless. Banknotes will end up being used to line the bottoms of hamster cages. This exists when you have a fiat currency system, that is, the central bank is the entity issuing the currency and it's not backed up by another currency or by gold. A lot of people think that taxes are levied to pay for government services. In the US, that is true for state taxes but it's not true for Federal taxes.

@R B to subdue people and keep them down and chained. Also the rich love public welfare

We should all turn everything we have or will ever have over to the Government like the people of Venezuela did. Now they have everything they will ever need, Government will provide, Government, Government, Government, that's the answer to every problem, we just need more Government like they have in Venezuela (and lets not forget North Korea too).

@@ginojones5857 I'm struggling to determine whether this is a parody of typical american fearmongering or if this is real and I spotted one in the wild

Good! Cuz bread spikes up your insulin levels and makes you fat 😂 If that were salmon or avocado, I'd have an issue 🤣🤣🤣

Marx said proletariat have to free the whole world to free themselves, but China have give that up.

More like Aha, ha, ha, ha, ha.....You might try...A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman after which "cause and effect" become quite different...

I can almost see the start of his one inch by one inch mustache

@s Wow, let me remind you this is a page where people are allowed to comment and express themselves, and yes even get personal. I feel no shame at all, I only feel sorry for you. Take care and stay safe.

You should have stopped with "unbelievable"...because the history related here is false, and while it is inciteful, it is not knowledge. You might try...A Distant Mirror by Barbara Tuchman

It would be good, except all too soon he would be assassinated.

Except he is ignorant of history, teaching the equally ignorant...

Yeah, Socialism will be tried again and will fail again, because people like you refuse to learn form history.

Allow me to reply as a capitalist would as to why you can't afford being a patron: 1. You're lazy 2. You're not as smart as I am 3. You don't work as hard as I do 4. You depend on the government (refer to 1) 5. You're a communist/socialist (they are both the same right?) 6. You don't understand economics

I just doubled my payment for you, comrade. So, no worries.

You are just one amongst millions in the United States alone who cannot.

@Dennis Young yes, sarcasim. I've heard all of those excuses given by capitalists.

Apparently you people don't learn that Socialism does not work.

@@BarrySlisk Capitalism does not work either. We need balance. Like an aeroplane - it needs left wing and a right wing to be perfectly balanced.

@@coolbreez773 The only balance Capitalism needs is a small government in charge of police, defense and law and order.

​@@BarrySlisk It also needs to regulate corporations to stop exploitation of people and the environment. The state has always been the guarantor for huge infrastructure projects, the railways and the roads etc was too risky for contractors and they would not exist today without state support.

@@coolbreez773 You have a point :)

Some Americans - the top 40% are doing just fine and like things as they are.

@@gertrudewest4535 I don't know if you can do fine while driving past homeless people begging for food. They all can't be heartless.

Everybody agrees we need another massive govt stimulus to keep the scam going. The size of their entire yearly tax haul. But they just looked at the numbers and figured we don’t need that next injection till 2021. Inconsequential that evictions are happening and people are going thru intense winter pain and hardship in the meantime.

Actually, the stock market failing would be a sign that capitalism works, because things FAIL in capitalism. Attempting to prevent this failure simply compounds it... this is a gift from FDR and you have reached the final stage.

I think pretty much everybody ignored it and nothing bad happened. We are all still here.

Sadly, David Graeber died earlier this year in London, England. May I also recommend the content produced by Mark Blyth, a political economist and professor of economics at Brown University. Mark Blyth is a witty and entertaining lecturer on economics who has just co-authored a book called Angrynomics which explores the reasons why the economy is failing and what could be done about it. He also has a lot of content here on KZfaq. I learned a lot from him.

@Dirk Knight yeah, communists and capitalists need to get over themselves. They're both wrong.

@Dirk Knight you just described a capitalist also. Capitalism is absolutely the world's dominant ideology. It comes from liberalism, which comes from humanism, ya know what else comes from humanism? Socialism. It IS an ideology, exactly the same as socialism. And it has supremacy at its heart (free market, perpetual growth, small state.. the idea that production of capital is the ONLY thing required for the health and welfare of a nation, i.e. capital creation = jobs, which isn't going to be true much longer), just like socialism which says that ONLY society can achieve equality and welfare. Well you're both damn wrong! Supremacy IS NEVER the answer in a multidimensional system, of which, the human, the species, and the ecosystem, ALL are.