Ederlezi - Traditional folksong, arr. Imre Ploeg

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6 жыл бұрын

Choir: Kamerkoor JIP
Project: JIP8 ... and I become a wall
Conductor: Imre Ploeg
arr. Imre Ploeg
Traditional folksong, unknown origin
Ederlezi (Romani name for the day of Hıdrellez (Turkey) Đurđevdan (Slavic), the feast of Saint George (Christian) and the celebration for the return of the spring
Solo: Marieke Derks, Lara Wepster
Video - Felipe Pipi
www.kamerkoorJIP.nl

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@morganbrown6032 4 жыл бұрын

I love listening to all the different versions of this song😭❤️

@aysu9356 4 жыл бұрын

Same

@mariabeshun5262 4 жыл бұрын

Morgan Brown hah, same )

@narvalitao 4 жыл бұрын

Same aha

@MegaVikooo 4 жыл бұрын

Allthough it is very beautifull how they sing this song, i have the feeling they dont understand that the way to sing this song is a message for itself. The way is a part of the soul of this Song.

@Stefanialai 4 жыл бұрын

same ! :)

@JSzulwic 4 ай бұрын

Miło słuchać! szacunek!

@marina8514 3 жыл бұрын

This is probably the most beautiful version that I heard, and I heard a lot of different interpretation on this subject, however there os something that is bothering me. Origin of this song is known and it's not folk song. Song is from WW2 and has a really sad and powerful story behind it. I don't know is there any sources in English that you can find so here is the story. During Worl War 2 Balkan was divaded more than ever. This is reagion that blooms in different cultures, people and religions. Extremist group of Catholic people who greeted Nacis, caled Ustaše had concentration camp Jasenovac for Ortodox folks and Romi as well. On Day of Saint George or Đurđevdan that is very respected in both Ortodox and Romi's tradition Ustaše forcefully put them on train of death as it os called, train for Jasenovac. Half of people didn't even make it to Jasenovac due to overcrowding the train so they suffocate. One young man, probably Rom sing this sange on spot whit original lyrics Spring is landing on my shoulder Djurdjevak is blooming(djurdjevak is flower that blooms on Đurđevdan and it is omen that spring has come) Djurdjevak is blooming for everyone except me. It is song full of sorrow and at the same time love for life, it is also rebellious act, going to meet potential torture and almost certain death and still singing and celebrating life. We know about this song because of Goran Bregović, good Kusturica's friend, musician in Yugoslovenian rock band called Bijelo Dugme. He knew someone who survived Jasenovac and had same birthplace as people who that day was on the train so he wrote down the song, introduce it to all Yugoslovenian but after decided that this song should be simbol of Romi in Balkan and theirs victims in WW2 so lyrics was transferred on Romi's language and has meaning that is more familiar and that you had a chance hearing in Kusturica's movies. This song is about every victim of those horrible ideas but also perfectly represents the spirit of Balkans. Thank you for your attention and I hope we all learn something new everyday. Also excuse my English, I'm not native speaker but I'm trying to improve everyday.

@997MAXIMUS 3 жыл бұрын

This song will never be the same for me.Very touching story.

@JohnWeirdoe 3 жыл бұрын

An article on that subject below. Thank you for pointing it out. I feel that remembering true story behind this haunting tune is very important. balkanstories.net/2015/11/20/the-day-music-lost-its-innocence/

@marina8514 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnWeirdoe I read whole article and I can't find nice word for it. Someone who knows nothing about way Balkans live talks about how Balkans live. It has a lot of informations that are not important for song and it's origin but are put there to spin the story and do I don't even know what. Anyway song definitely has origin that is known so it's not folk song, has autor whit name.

@JohnWeirdoe 3 жыл бұрын

@@marina8514 Well, interesting take. I'm not an expert on Balcans nevertheless I read about this topic a lot and especially on history of region. I'm not here to argue on any of that. Most important thing is that song is a gypsy perspective.

@marina8514 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnWeirdoe I agree on that, song is very important part of Balkan Romi's culture but also you cannot forget what this song means to all other people in Balkan and here I'm not thinking about War criminals and theirs widows. Believe it or not they are not much loved here. Also I would say if you read about history here after Ww2, it's still not history, a lot of people are still considering history of this reagion very personal story and are trying to affect the way the story is told. I hope you understand what I'm trying to say.

@terezacmiralova7224 6 күн бұрын

Apsolutně nevyhnutelně krásné ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

@knenda1 3 жыл бұрын

I am from Balkan, but this northern version is beautiful (or even the best) :)

@FatihKonya 4 жыл бұрын

Eskimeyen, yıpranmayan, her söyleyenin ağzına yakışan, şahane bir eser. Sizler muhteşem icra etmişsiniz. Mükemmel 👌

@emreaslan7667 2 жыл бұрын

Bur şarkıyı her dinlediğim de bütün acılarım canımı acıtıyor.

@PAV1C 10 ай бұрын

For a Dutch choir to capture the essence of Ederlezi is a grand achievement

@curtwild86 5 жыл бұрын

Solo girl has a beautiful clear voice!

@MrRessiter 4 жыл бұрын

So true. Its one od the best I'v ever heard

@evdwal5921 3 жыл бұрын

Same for the girl on the left who sings second voice.. so clear and beautiful!

@zelimircvitanovic774 3 жыл бұрын

It is true but this song demand more emotions instead nice voices. You must be connected somehow with Gypsies. Listen Goran Bregović version.

@Tirexx01 4 жыл бұрын

Bir tane bile enstrüman yok ama ortaya şaheser çıkmış.

@idriziiljas4428 4 жыл бұрын

Tirexx01 romanes

@Tirexx01 4 жыл бұрын

@@melike7064 aynı duyguları paylaşıyoruz.

4 жыл бұрын

İnsan sesi en güzel enstrümandır.

@AliVeli-uu1yk 4 жыл бұрын

@waelmarouf6430 4 жыл бұрын

Mr/Ms Fthzkl, in Europe we call this A Capella ... (this is to answer the comment: " There is not even one instrument, but a masterpiece has emerged.")

@herrmannelig5091 2 жыл бұрын

Yakamoz S-245'ten gördüm geldim. Müthiş bir şarkı. Dizinin bana kattığı en büyük şey olabilir.

@mazlumtiltay6189 2 жыл бұрын

Cingeneler zamanini izle o zaman tavsiye ederim

@herrmannelig5091 2 жыл бұрын

@@mazlumtiltay6189 Peaky Blinders izledim moruk, yeter.

@serkandeniz9870 Жыл бұрын

Cem’in intihar sahnesini kaç kere izleyip ağladım bilmiyorum :(((

@alikelekberov3066 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Yakamoz S245. Glad found this masterpiece

@user-yb3kt8qm5w Ай бұрын

Hhhh

@herrmannelig5091 2 жыл бұрын

O giriş kısmı insanı bitiriyor ya. İnanılmaz etkileyici.

@benjaminflash1108 2 жыл бұрын

Zajdi Zajdi'yi de tavsiye ederim :) Herr Mannelig'e selamlar. O da güzeldir.

@yasinbayraktar1471 3 жыл бұрын

Bu nasıl bir şarkı bilader ağlayacağım neredeyse

@meltemzaric9622 3 жыл бұрын

Yöresi ve diliyle ilgili bi bilginiz var mı?

@stalxbr564 2 жыл бұрын

@@meltemzaric9622 Boşnak ağıdı

@ai-kt3hy 2 жыл бұрын

@@meltemzaric9622 Balkan Romanlari'ningidi sanirim, daha sonra farkli versiyonlara cevrilmis

@meltemzaric9622 2 жыл бұрын

@@ai-kt3hy teşekkürler

@fvcecvrd3.something474 2 жыл бұрын

Not gone lie… heard this on a Netflix show and glad I found it 🙌🏾

@JokerM6 3 жыл бұрын

My heart is bleeding. The worlds anthem...this is the tunes we will hear when we die

@user-od3jg3nu5j Жыл бұрын

The performance of this song by the Dutch is divine. It turns out that the Dutch are a little gypsy at heart... Thank you for the sincere and unique performance of this song!

@mikeperth8027 4 жыл бұрын

I have no idea what the words mean but that does not matter - I heard the angels sing!

@isihosena635 4 жыл бұрын

Turn on the subtitles :)

@mikeperth8027 4 жыл бұрын

@@isihosena635 Touché

@EM-np7zc 4 жыл бұрын

The Hymn of Roma (Gypsy)

@Koffiekoekske 4 жыл бұрын

It’s about the Roma and celebration of the day of saint george ( ederlezi ), returning of spring.

@mikeperth8027 4 жыл бұрын

@@Koffiekoekske Thank you for your answer and reply. Very much appreciate your help.

@omerkincilar3282 2 жыл бұрын

I am from the ancient Balkan. I deeply feel this beautiful song by the cool and young Dutchies. Really touching atmosphere and performance. One side of my family is from these lands.

@WaqarAli-vn1zy 2 жыл бұрын

Yakamoz S-245 brought me here… and it’s even more amazing

@mirkomirkinger8716 3 жыл бұрын

A little peace of what Heaven sounds like!

@Evan-qo6hq 4 жыл бұрын

I am Roma .... And I can tell you that the pronunciation is Perfect . 👏👏 Amazing . 😍

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! 😃

@filipzawistowski4390 4 жыл бұрын

Ah I love Gypsies :) ... Wait, is that word offensive?

@EllaAngeli 3 жыл бұрын

@@filipzawistowski4390 Yes it is a derogatory term

@filipzawistowski4390 3 жыл бұрын

@@EllaAngeli Oh well, I think it's a nicer sounding word than Roma ☺️

@danabowring 3 жыл бұрын

@@filipzawistowski4390 it's not a nice word though. it is rather derogatory.

@Paul_cat_videos 7 ай бұрын

Yakamoz S- 245 brought me here. This song brought me to tears. It is so beautiful and emotional.

@TheMackirk 3 ай бұрын

Me too...

@aleksandari.7834 4 жыл бұрын

The Dutch singing Balkan Romani song... Being from Serbia, and trained in music, I have to say - Really nice job, people! You felt it. It is as if music transformed you. :)

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Aleksandar! It did transform us

@seldakoray8013 4 жыл бұрын

Turkısh traditional song Hıdırellez.. Balkan Turkısh name .Mean=mountainous region.

4 жыл бұрын

Ti si stvarno.......

@seldakoray8013 4 жыл бұрын

@ Yes It is still used as a name and surname in Turkey. It is the Avar Turks who put the Slavs in the balkans. Slavs are northern European. So Avar Turks the ancestors of hungarian.

@carolemuller533 4 жыл бұрын

@@seldakoray8013 Thank you for explaining....Because it does sound like much music arising from "mountain singing" that is, hersmen and woman communicating over mountain tops....Especially in th a capella, solo intro...There is a lot of folk music sounding like that originating from Switzerland, Norway etc...

@ahmetistanbul4716 4 жыл бұрын

Harikulade! Long live the Balkanfolks. Best wishes from Turkey!

@sunnysena0911 3 жыл бұрын

Çok harika bir şarkı değil mi?

@ahmetistanbul4716 3 жыл бұрын

Sena Sunak evet inanilmaz güzel

@hasanoguzhandemir4534 3 жыл бұрын

Turks are also a Balkan folk. Don't discriminate

@ahmetistanbul4716 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunnysena0911 enfes!!

@ai-kt3hy 2 жыл бұрын

@@hasanoguzhandemir4534 he didn't say otherwise

@melancolielupine2023 4 жыл бұрын

This song. I grew with it. Kusturica's movies and songs. This song go deep in my heart and my soul. Essence of purity, beauty, feelings 🌹

@DunjaMir 4 жыл бұрын

Deco, bravo! Čula sam Đurđevdan milion puta, a li ovo je neverovatno!

@aaronfreeman2728 3 жыл бұрын

No joke this is one of the most beautiful melodies. It is timeless and ethereal. This song is powerful and has endured the test of time. Hauntingly beautiful.

@AlexanderDeusvult Жыл бұрын

Im Polish Gypsy and you sing it very beautiful and all of you 🌹😊💯

@L0kiSenpai 4 ай бұрын

You said in another video you are Russian gypsy.....are you even a gypsy? Fake

@melodikasanonimos8718 4 жыл бұрын

Harikasınız özellikle vokalisti✌️🎵 Türkiyeden yürek dolusu sevgiler hepinize🖤❤️🖤❤️🖤❤️🇹🇷🇹🇷🇹🇷

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

Teşekkür ederim!

@aknselvi2413 4 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btxodKh_35vQg6M.html al kardeş gerçek ve olması gereken ses bu. Vaska jankovska kadar kimseye yakışmadı bu ağıt. Her sesim güzel diyen de söylemesin bi zahmet.

@melodikasanonimos8718 4 жыл бұрын

Orijinal filmden alınan ve Rumeli dizisinde kullanılan sesi tabiki biyorum. Rahat ol🙏 Burdaki yorum da anlattığım başka bir şey. Sen begenmiyorsan beğenme. Kalite hiç bir zaman kendini biri beğenmedi diye yitirmez...

@geciyordumbirbakiyimdedim8326 4 жыл бұрын

Özellik beyaz giydirilmesi vokaliste. Masumların haykırışı gibi ki, bu günlerde adını anmayacağım kişini bu soy kırımı yok sayan bir yazarın nobel almasına ağıt olarak kabul ediyorum. Ve bir gün mazlumun sesinin duyulması temennisiyle ile.

@melodikasanonimos8718 4 жыл бұрын

@@geciyordumbirbakiyimdedim8326 Çok çok doğru söylemişsiniz, gerçekten de yüreğimizi dağlıyor olanlar ve o beyaz kıyafeti ile insanlığını haykırıyor.

@Meph256 3 жыл бұрын

Lets take a moment and appreciate the tonmeister, record quality. ✔

@yougamer2725 2 жыл бұрын

There is a Turkish series called yakamoz s245 and i heard this song there and it's really beautiful song

@jonanazk9276 2 жыл бұрын

Igual yo. Es muy hermosa esta canción

@kurgusaldunyalar 2 жыл бұрын

Me too

@senakibar6076 2 жыл бұрын

yakamoz S 245 dizisinde dinledim çoo etkileyici bir şarkı

@bazed88 4 жыл бұрын

Remembering early Kusturica, drinking grape vodka, hearing this great song, i'm crying

@muzevir065 4 жыл бұрын

grape vodka

@nesa1126 3 жыл бұрын

@@muzevir065 It is almost cute lol

@bugradegirmenci1725 4 жыл бұрын

Just wonderful. No words need. Greetings to Romanis, Srbohrvats and Dutchs and whole world from Turkey.

@zakuta89 Жыл бұрын

it's a title by goran bregovic for The Time of the Gypsies a 1988 film later used as a reference by the roma

@dis882 Жыл бұрын

There are no Serbo-Croats, there are only Serbs, Orthodox and those who have accepted Catholicism, namely the Croats. As a Turk you should know that....

@tomoglamuzina9045 Жыл бұрын

@@dis882 a brate i ti ga presra. Hrvati i Srbi su dva slična, ali različita naroda. Dva plemena koja su se naselila u skoro isto vrijeme na Balkanu. Mi Hrvati smo zapali pod zapadnu sferu pa smo katolici, a vi Srbi pod istočnu pa ste pravoslavci. I činjenica je da smo skupa ratovali rame uz rame do 1914. godine. Od tada smo zavađeni narodi, iako ima pozitivnih primjera gdje mi Hercegovci (istočni Srbi i zapadni Hrvati) se družimo i ne svađamo. Ostavi se šovinizma, voli svoje - poštuj tuđe. Pozdrav iz Mostara 💪

@dis882 Жыл бұрын

@@tomoglamuzina9045 Јесам ли се ја теби обратио ? Брат ми не можеш бити балавче....

@tomoglamuzina9045 Жыл бұрын

@@dis882 istruni u mržnji mentolčino, kako je to tužno hahahahah

@stanjarmolowicz 4 жыл бұрын

every time i hear this piece i can't hold my tears

@anamaria-db7pq 4 жыл бұрын

same ... it's sweet and painful at the same time...

@katarzynawos9269 4 жыл бұрын

Best version I have ever heard

@soistshalt 4 жыл бұрын

Gänsehaut! Was für ein perfektes Arrangement... und eine solche stimmige musikalische Aufführung, was für ein himmlischer Klang... BRAVI!

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

Vielen Dank für Ihre Komplimente!

@michawozniak193 3 жыл бұрын

Wspaniale! Pozdrowienia z Polski.

@wujciowariatuncio5702 3 жыл бұрын

Kayah też ładnie to śpiewała.

@laetitia-borgia 4 жыл бұрын

Wow...coming from Balkans I've heard a lot of different versions and interpretations of this song...and I must say this blew me away. Absolutely awesome. Impeccable. Brilliant. Bravo!!!!

@zahidekutluay 2 жыл бұрын

turkiyeden selamlar

@Aahbozz2 3 жыл бұрын

If not for Borat I wouldn’t know this beautiful song exist. Greetings from Singapore 🇸🇬🇸🇬

@davidpotter7785 3 жыл бұрын

Why did they have it Borat? It isn’t Turkic. But it does eerily sound like a Turkic mourn.

@zaboybagoi8636 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidpotter7785 Muslim Romanis and Turks are living together for almost a millenia. My grandfather was a Romani Cingan

@dusanlecic1389 4 ай бұрын

...again ...boli kako je otpevano...it hurts how was it... HVALA

@harrietlyall1991 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful rich harmonies, when they sing “Hey!”, it makes the hairs stand up on the back of your neck!

@contre6581 4 жыл бұрын

У меня мурашки от этого исполнения Аааааааааааааа Как круто

@vladimirlifshitz198 4 жыл бұрын

Да Прекрасное исполнение

@nenecpm 2 жыл бұрын

Србиje - UA - Russia = Brothers ❤️

@pourchacha2604 3 жыл бұрын

one of the most beautiful music of all time

@ayseisk7265 Жыл бұрын

Bu şarkıyı dinlemeyi çok seviyorum

@projektlinie 4 жыл бұрын

This Version of the Song Guts under My Skin. Is Great 🥰

@j.hindle9243 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t remember why I first listened to this song seven years ago- but I did, and I’m glad it’s come back into my recommended.

@stuka97 5 жыл бұрын

Just listening to there angelic voices,gives me hope for the human race .

@ortayakarskf2r-muhammeddar81 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh bee cem üzümlü kekim

@wonkylommiter6364 2 жыл бұрын

This had a similar effect on me as stepping into cold water, as others have said, it touches your soul.

@teyfukablaev9657 3 жыл бұрын

Очень трогательно и задушевно ! Да я не понимаю слов, да я не понял смысла, но душа пела ! Спасибо и низкий вам поклон за ваше творчество и талант ! С Уважением из России !!!

@GorkemBayer 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video... thanks bosnia.. from turkey

@acousticnext2564 3 жыл бұрын

Brings tears to my eyes. That solo'ist voice is heavenly. Tranende ogen, prachtig.

@maragirl5958 3 жыл бұрын

is that jiddish?

@emilmckellar4932 3 жыл бұрын

@@maragirl5958 Dutch, almost the same in Afrikaans, tranende oe, Pragtig. Umlauted e

@maragirl5958 3 жыл бұрын

@@emilmckellar4932 okay thank u

@emilmckellar4932 3 жыл бұрын

@@maragirl5958 Something about the language troubled me, I feel that it is not a native Dutch speaker. What they want to say is - Brings tears to my eyes, In Afrikaans I would say "bring trane in my oë: and a close Dutch translation would be "brengt tranen in mijn ogen". Tranenede ogen" translate to me as tearing eyes, not a very emotional statement but statement of fact. I might be wrong I last read a Dutch book at school, De koning van katoren. Some Dutch readers might find it funny :)

@LeoKolen 3 жыл бұрын

Many authors or composers, from all over the world, had taken advantage from criptomnesia and the collective unconscious to write. It is an universal thing. That song is ancestral east European -- is part of our souls -- it came from a deeper layer of all ourselves. If something moves you so, it has always been there.

@nikkosgeo503 4 жыл бұрын

Μουσική και τραγούδι που αγγίζει το ασυνείδητο της ανθρωπότητας.

@EM-np7zc 4 жыл бұрын

Άς είναι γύφτικο τραγούδι. Μού αρέσει πάρα πολύ η μελωδία.... 🥰 Και το τραγουδάνε πάρα πολύ ωραία ❣❣❣ (Καλές γιορτές)

@konstantinosvlachos3290 3 жыл бұрын

@@EM-np7zc γιατί τι έχουν τα γύφτικα τραγούδια;

@lauraorabone5832 4 жыл бұрын

When the chorus comes in, it reminds me so much of the feeling/sound of shape note singing in the United States. Astonishingly beautiful and moving.

@cosmin.182 Ай бұрын

Most respect from Romania!

@lulima8064 4 жыл бұрын

The signing is so beautiful it eases my soul.

@thisispjetro Жыл бұрын

For us Balkans this is a song that can't be described by the words. All I can say that you did a great job there. Well done!

@johannesnicolaas 5 жыл бұрын

My whole body starts to move.... Good god this is good!

@KamerkoorJIP 5 жыл бұрын

That's a great compliment, thanks!

@IremSinemKsa 4 жыл бұрын

Bunu ilk master şefte dinledim anlamıyorum tek kelimesini fakat her nedense insanın içine işliyor

@fidanabasova7642 4 жыл бұрын

Mükəmməldir..

@M.nuriii 4 жыл бұрын

Eledir..;)

@dorgonreborn4108 2 жыл бұрын

It’s quite rare a choir and song brings a music loving man to tears... but here I am 😭 BEAUTIFUL!! BRAVO!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@alek1766 3 жыл бұрын

This choir is so dynamic

@MKultra81 4 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely stunning. I clicked on this just out of curiosity and when you guys started singing, tears started streaming down my face. I haven't had this experience in quite some time. Really moving. Thank you.

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. Let the music move us in into the hearts! All best for you from the choir!

@cvetannikolov2823 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing😀💝💝💝

@IhakaOn 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. That was really beautiful.

@dagmarawieclawpasieczna1172 4 жыл бұрын

Łzy z oczu same lecą 🧡 cudo🌳

@Marselmarsemars 5 жыл бұрын

Amazing. It is on repeat inside my head.

@AntonEtmanov 4 жыл бұрын

Just amazing! Thank you. It's what I need in such circumstances. ♥

@user-rw5rw4xm1k 3 жыл бұрын

Огромное спасибо! Очень трогательно, душевно!

@lov2beloco 4 жыл бұрын

This is absolutely gorgeous

@serengayeer1491 4 жыл бұрын

Goosebumps. This is gorgeous

@cholpansayyn6750 4 жыл бұрын

I'm loving, loving it! ❤️❤️❤️

@brownkevi1 4 жыл бұрын

Wow! That is superb.

@birayuzun8195 4 жыл бұрын

Just Perfect

@emirhancelebi3282 4 жыл бұрын

Gözler yaşlı mükemmel 🙏🙏

@danielpetitjean1896 5 ай бұрын

instant tears thank you so much

@staninjapan07 4 жыл бұрын

Just stunning.

@soniczek 4 жыл бұрын

this is an absolute masterpiece.

@silistardemirovic5689 4 жыл бұрын

Wow, the pronounciation, the harmony! One of the best interpretations i have ever seen...Proud to be Romani!

@KamerkoorJIP 4 жыл бұрын

You should be :) thank you!!

@ewcix9941 4 жыл бұрын

Excuse me, i'm polish and i don't understand why few people greet the pronouncuation, could please explain me? Also, do I understand well - this is romanuan song for spring?

@Scazi 4 жыл бұрын

left me speachless... such GREAT version. All my love - straight to you

@imoztoo 4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely magnificent!

@real_azul_luza 4 жыл бұрын

"ubi,tres,ibi ecclesia.." and for that we still cry for what they have done and still do unto to us.. but we are still here brother and sister Roma :) God Bless you all and Godspeed 🙏