Effectively Disable the VW Immobilizer 4 (IMMO4)

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Josh of All Trades

Josh of All Trades

5 жыл бұрын

This video is applicable to many modern ignition systems but is specifically for the Push-to-Start Volkswagens made between 2005.5 and 2010.
I didn't want to pay a locksmith or the dealer between $150 and $600 for a new push-to-start key so I developed a method to effectively disable the immobilizer 4 ignition control system. Please be warned, this is effectively like leaving the key in the ignition. However, despite the immobilizer being disabled, no one needs to know, the doors can still be locked, and the alarm still activated.
New or used fobs can be found on Amazon and eBay. There are 2 independent radio interfaces in the fob. First is the keyless entry radio transmitter. This is the part which requires a battery and can be seen as the circuit board inside the fob. This part sends an encrypted radio frequency transmission to the car and works tens of feet away. This part can be authenticated with aftermarket tools by vehicle owners. The second radio interface contained in the fob is known as RFID. It is the same technology that is used to micro chip our pets, tap to pay with our credit cards, and pay for our gas with Mobil SpeedPass. These devices have a micocoil that is energized by an electromagnetic field in the reader. The coil generates enough electricity to power a micro transmitter which broadcasts an encrypted numeric code. This code is received by the reader. In the case of the immobilizer systems if the code doesn't match that which is stored in the cars computer, the computer won't authorize a start sequence. Dealers and locksmiths are the only people who can typically program the car's computer system to recognize the unique number in each of these different RFID chips.
I show how to remove the RFID Chip from the remote and where to place it near the immobilizer to fake the immobilizer into thinking that a proper key has been inserted into the ignition.
Remote FCC ID: NBG009066T - Use this as a search term to buy new fobs
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio-f...
Removing RFID chips - • DIY - How to replace /...
Adapting the remotes to Lock/Unlock doors - • vcds key remote adapta...
Ross-Tech - www.ross-tech.com/index.html
Ross-Tech Micro-CAN - www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/old-...
Details about VW Immobilizers - wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index....

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@melanieortiz1136
@melanieortiz1136 4 жыл бұрын
hey josh thanks so much for the tutorial 2 mins in and it saved my life this morning!
@charlesseaton6199
@charlesseaton6199 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta thank you for this! My wife just called and said she had a no stat and told me that the screen read immobilizer active. I punched it in, found you and deduced that my wife had accidently taken the keys for both our 2.0T and VR-6 Passats. She was using the wrong fob. Because of your video I did not have to go out and get her.
@davedinicolo4571
@davedinicolo4571 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Fixed me up QUICK! Thank you so much!!!!
@Jtizzle815
@Jtizzle815 Жыл бұрын
But I am definitely going to get another two key fobs from Amazon or eBay for 14-15$ like you said just in case again thank you so much your a life saver
@Jtizzle815
@Jtizzle815 Жыл бұрын
Thank you josh your video was very informative and helpful I was able to get my key out with the trick you showed me. & i out the key in half way & waited for the lights to come on & moved the steering wheel it went away but Now my car needs a jump the snow drained my battery again
@Angelllwith3LLLs
@Angelllwith3LLLs 2 жыл бұрын
Life saver Thankyou sooo much
@mirelraileanu2447
@mirelraileanu2447 11 ай бұрын
Thank you , i been curious if is possible to to this and have another 2 or 3 keys without chip cloning and you answer to all my questions!
@leolegault2742
@leolegault2742 3 жыл бұрын
Well done vid, very informative and very well illustrated,can,t set a price on great knowledge like this for DIY guys.. I actually have a 07 Passat with this same situation, this vid clarified all my repairs that i can do next time it acts up again... Thank You Josh
@user-xl5np5dp8n
@user-xl5np5dp8n 9 күн бұрын
Very helpful. Thank you.
@jongalloway2712
@jongalloway2712 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff!!
@ryanabena7409
@ryanabena7409 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much it worked ❤️
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@royonnag3937
@royonnag3937 3 жыл бұрын
Thank youuuuu so much 💖💖💖💖💖
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Hope it helped.
@upsidedown4155
@upsidedown4155 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of using the fob, depending on finger size, push then in, push the 2 teeth at the sides in that free's the fob carrier and push more and it will turn on the ignitions then press slightly further and the starter will engage, also the later b6 had a immo chip soldered on the circuit board of the keyfob immo 5 on
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Yes you're correct that you could actuate the ignition with your fingers but it will only start if you have placed the RFID grain of rice like I showed in the video.
@SunilKumar-ci3ue
@SunilKumar-ci3ue 2 жыл бұрын
vehicle passat cluster show immobilizer adaptation during key adaptation but key does not adapted where is problem? Key remote also not working but led light blink on key or key cell is fine?
@jakobbox4614
@jakobbox4614 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful
@sanddpotts
@sanddpotts 3 жыл бұрын
You have disabled NOTHING!! I'm glad this has been helpful to so many others tho!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Read much? Did I say "disable the immobilizer"? No. I said "effectively disable". And that it is exactly what I did. It is akin to removing all the pins from a lock set. You still need the key to turn the cylinder but any key will work. Sorry to have wasted your time.
@lilblue9993
@lilblue9993 Жыл бұрын
Helped me. Thanks bud
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@denisebryant5063
@denisebryant5063 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh! A little off subject here but I need to know how to locate the part that will make my mobile phone connect via Bluetooth to my stereo to use my phone button on the multi-function steering wheel control in my 2009 VW CC. Do you have any idea what it is called or how to research it? Many thanks!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
I believe what you are looking for is integral to the stereo. The entire car runs on a common system called CAN-bus. You can find aftermarket stereos and devices that interface very nicely. I put one in my car after the video was released. Big improvement for only about $100. I tried to find a link but it looks like that specific product is not available anymore. You can see a similar item in the link below. www.ebay.com/itm/113858450994
@Giovanniko1
@Giovanniko1 Жыл бұрын
Well done
@kellymordini4722
@kellymordini4722 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, have a vw2009 And dashboard read(IMMOBILIZER Active) Idk what that meant
@rr0vip
@rr0vip 7 ай бұрын
Since the chip stays always in ignition and car can be started even with fingers is it possible to install some sort of hidden kill switch to shut down ignition lock?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 7 ай бұрын
I suppose it is possible. For me, the door locks and low value of the car made it unnecessary. I bought the car for $1600. That's pretty low incentive to steal, especially when it means setting off the car alarm while breaking in. Of course no one needs to know you made this mod so, its even more of a gamble to a would be thief. The ignition module is in the dash and has a ~10 wire jack. I'm sure one of the wires is +12v power. If you could figure out which one was then you could just simply put a toggle on it.
@psndse
@psndse 4 жыл бұрын
How were you able to pair the key fob remote lock and unlock with the car? I want to create a secondary key only for locking and unlocking. (Not for starting the car)
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
I can't remember, I'll have to re-investigate that part.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
It's in the description section below the video. Lots of links. I think this is the one that answers your questions. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrJ7gcpl3s_Tdp8.html
@psndse
@psndse 4 жыл бұрын
No worries! Any leads would help
@besarislami988
@besarislami988 4 жыл бұрын
Hellp Josh i have a passat b6 but one mechanich lost my dsg numbers from the instrumental table Now i don't know in what gear i im What do you recomandation is?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to fix that. If anything can be done it will probably be accomplished with VAG-COM or VCDS from Ross-Tech. Maybe the transmission just needs to have an ADAPTATION?
@macki
@macki 3 ай бұрын
And if you have a manual car? How to remove key from ignition then? Great video!
@torye111
@torye111 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh I just bought a used Volkswagen Eos 2007 and I drove it a couple of times but just last week The symbol with the car and key pop up on the dashboard and it says immobilizer active. The car starts up but turns right off seconds later. And i only have and been using one key. Is there a way to fix this without having to spend a crazy amount of money?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know. What type of key does it take? There were lots of recalls on the passat for the ignition module. The dealer would replace the module for free. Maybe call them and give your VIN?
@renem1219
@renem1219 Ай бұрын
How do you find the FCCID number if you took the fob apart and it is not there? I looked with a magnifying glass. You need the proper key fob to program it.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Ай бұрын
Sorry, what are you trying to do? The ebay part number is listed in the description. That should get you a new circuit board and plastic case. With a VagCOM you can program the ebay item to unlock, lock, and alarm the car.
@rettaturner5459
@rettaturner5459 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2006 Volkswagen passat 3.6. And I been having the same problems. Everyone telling me different things the locksmith said he don't think I need a new key. Which I kinda believe because when the car isn't starting it pops up a red steering wheel and says "steering wheel column lock defective" but it also says "immobilizer active" also so since its doing both of those things. I have no idea what needs to actually be fixed. Any ideas?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
There is a recall on the key module. I would call a VW dealer and provide them with your VIN. They can tell you what recalls are pending for your vehicle. Usually at no cost to yourself.
@rettaturner5459
@rettaturner5459 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they told me its a recall on the airbag. The airbag light is on so I'm planning on getting that fixed. But for the other problems no luck. Everyone online with the same problems as me says the same thing. The dealership charged them a bill of $2000 to fix it. I really don't want to pay that considering I only bought it for $1500 but I don't want to sell it and put this problem on anyone else🤦
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
There are recalls on the IMMO modules. Go to a different dealer or search the internet for recalls on your VIN.
@gabomeri1
@gabomeri1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, i found your video by trying to understand how to remove the key barrel (where you put the key), so i can repair the plastic cover that moves up and down when you insert the key. Do you know that? Good video
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Just stick your fingers in the slot and give it a jerk. You'll probably bend the metal tabs on either side. Just unbend them prior to reinstalling the cover.
@gabomeri1
@gabomeri1 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj Thank you Josh. I 'll try
@getrealzx
@getrealzx 2 жыл бұрын
Do we need to reprogram key buttons after we swapped the immobilizer chip?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
If you want remote entry buttons to work then the circuit board has to be programmed to the car, but only once. Think of it like your garage door opener being programmed. If you buy used keys (fobs) from eBay or the junk yard then the circuit board will need programmed to match your car. You need a Ross-Tech Vag-Com and follow the link in the description.
@krisllendarochapinto2980
@krisllendarochapinto2980 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, i need your help please. i have a vw passat cc 2015. when i'm driving and stop the car and put the gear in neutral and remove the foot from the clutch the car shuts down because of the star stop system, so far everything is normal, but soon after immobilizer activated message, I have to remove the key from the ignition and put it back in for it to turn on. this has always happened when the start stop system is activated. when I deactivate the start stop on the button, the immobilizer doesn't appear. I've already changed the key for the second key, I changed the batteries but the same thing keeps happening all the time.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely sure but it seems like maybe this is an intentional "feature"? The only thing I can think of is to flip the key over? Maybe see if you can remove the "grain of rice" and place it closer to the IMMOBILIZER RFID receiver? These immobilizer systems have had lots of recalls too. Maybe check with a dealer?
@g2fb905
@g2fb905 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I have a spare key but it doens't have the immobilizer and I lost my original keys. I start the car with the spare key and it turns after 2 seconds and says "no key" do you know how I can bypass this?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry man. I think you are stuck with going to the dealer. By going I mean towing the car. Sucks. Once you get a good working key you can employ my trick to make multiple keys work....ie make you own keys.
@g2fb905
@g2fb905 4 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj thanks for the advice appreciate it
@TheUKVapeShow
@TheUKVapeShow 2 жыл бұрын
Do the eBay blanks still lock the car with the immobiliser glued in place in the car ?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. You can transfer an old circuit board from an old key or use the Ross-Tech device to program the new circuit board that comes with the eBay key.
@TheUKVapeShow
@TheUKVapeShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj is this not the same as just getting the key programmed or is this also different to reporgraming the rice chip ? I take it you only need to programed to open doors ?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUKVapeShow Program the buttons separate and possible to DIY. The ignition is impossible to DIY. The Ross-Tech computer is very useful for other DIY such as brakes.
@TheUKVapeShow
@TheUKVapeShow 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj do you have a good link to DIY the buttons as all people I contacted want to just program the lot for stealer money
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheUKVapeShow check the description section. Should be there.
@fancy8365
@fancy8365 3 жыл бұрын
What if my black key inside the fob the tip broke off in my backseat armrest/trunk reach through. I am worried because i just had to reset the computer. So am I going to be screwed when the alarm goes off or to my key back up. I know sometimes I have to put it in the door to pair them again usually in presence of the anti theft alarm lol
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
The black plastic flat key does nothing for the electronics, RFID, or remote control.
@fancy8365
@fancy8365 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj loll thanks for reply. Had to scrap that piece of shit by now. It ended up being the central control module a slew European car mechanics all kept saying they could do it. Bam then they would say gotta go to dealership it was so shitty. It wasn't getting fuel to start and sending me and the different mechanics a slew of fake codes that did seem like possible issues until I finally have one realize none of that bs like the fuel pump modules were issue even though I was throwing the small parts like the modules I could do my self. I thought it was going to be the ecu or can bus because the water thay accumulates from leaf buildup and carpets. But if small chance mechanic was wrong I did try to to toy with the idea it was in safety accessory mode running on min because the ac and tons of other accessories were out too. I think my guy was right so I wasn't paying dealership and can't get the parts used for that. A new accessory would break daily the longer i couldn't get correct voltages. For example eventually I couldnt turn the locks or even pop trunk it drove and didnt want to shut trunk since rhe trrunk pop aas broken it had been fine. I got on pkwy it blew up cracked the windsheild and ripped the hood leg off and bent hood. So more reasons i had to scrap. since It had started to be 2 months of no car and the inside looked like a piece of shit by that point becuase when it rained the water didn't escape even out the drains at all since it was still. I hate vw now after that car but it Had amazing qualities until that went south. I have never had a car that no one knew how to work on it. But I know alot more about cars then I did before I got it
@logandanielson8128
@logandanielson8128 4 жыл бұрын
The Jettas and GTIs did not come with that kind of key. The Jetta and the GTi came with volkswagens traditional flip key:) just wanted to give y a heads up so you don’t accidentally mis inform somebody
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
OK.
@ronnielsen5969
@ronnielsen5969 6 ай бұрын
On the old fob, does the grain of rice burn out and need replacing?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 6 ай бұрын
Not usually. If you put it in a microwave oven, or set it on an induction cook top, or it experienced an EMP, then the RFID chip might be damaged. If it gets damaged, you'll need the dealer or locksmith to program a new one. $350 at the dealer.
@sloopycat1954
@sloopycat1954 2 жыл бұрын
Hello I have a 2004 vw polo that has a standard key that has broken with metal-blade part and black-plastic-chip part, what would be the procedure if I buy a full-set of locks and a key from a salvage yard to swap over new locks and a key as cheaply as possible. Would I need vagcom or VCDS and is it possible to obtain them free. Great video thankyou so much.
@sloopycat1954
@sloopycat1954 2 жыл бұрын
Hello thankyou so much for replying back. It's a standard/normal key with a metal-blade and a round black-plastic part that contains the immobiliser chip, no switches on key.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@sloopycat1954 that's a very inexpensive key to get copied. You can probably find blanks online. Try getting a hardware store to cut it first. Smaller mom and pop type store is more likely than big box stores. If no luck, try a locksmith. If all else fails resort to the car dealer. You could also try just fixing what you have. JB weld epoxy putty comes to mind. It works like play dough, sticks like epoxy, and cures hard in 5 minutes.
@rebeccacobb5334
@rebeccacobb5334 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh, I bought a used Volkswagen cc 2012 had it 1 week and every light in the dash came on and it is missing so bad it won't go even if you floor the gas it just sputters please help
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest weaknesses in the 2.0 turbo is the high pressure fuel pump (HPFP) tappet follower. Google search it. Humble mechanic does a couple videos about it. Since it is new to you it would be a good first thing to replace and even if it isn't the problem it will be good insurance. Just checking but you did use the 93 octain fuel right? Double check me but it was a must in my 2006. If not you might not have too much choice but to buy an octain booster to bump up the juice. 🤷‍♂️
@arturomurillo5703
@arturomurillo5703 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any video how to program that remote to open and close the doors?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrJ7gcpl3s_Tdp8.html Check out all the links and info in description section.
@arturomurillo5703
@arturomurillo5703 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
I've sold my VW and now no longer need the Ross-Tech VagCom. I'll sell it for $150 if you're interested.
@elonciocervantes1595
@elonciocervantes1595 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know how to replace battery from fob. Can you please send me a link where can I get a new fob for my 2006 passat.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
same looking fob?
@elonciocervantes1595
@elonciocervantes1595 Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj yes , I have a 2006 passat. Thanks
@elonciocervantes1595
@elonciocervantes1595 Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj when I bought the car, they gave me just 1 fob.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/itm/353213369982 google NBG009066T
@pamelaroot2155
@pamelaroot2155 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh my key fob refuses to come out of my ignition on my 2006 vw Passat 2.0 help
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the video between 1:35 and 1:45. Basically squeeze the thumb button on the gear shift and that will trigger the ignition to release the key.
@froggytripp1804
@froggytripp1804 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh please get back to me with a reply I just bought a 06 vw, almost spun out on the highway. After i Gained control, my electric brake malfunction sign came on and and says airbag malfunction and also it just out of no where started a "exceed limit 20 mpg" now I can't drive over 20
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
You need a VAG-COM from ROSS-TECH to scan the codes and possibly do an Adaptation. I'm guessing that the wheel speed sensors lost electrical connection or just went bad. These are typically integrated into the bearing hubs. 🤷‍♂️ I'm really just taking a stab in the dark.
@ThatSouthernPeach
@ThatSouthernPeach 2 жыл бұрын
Question…. I purchased a new shell for my daughters keyfob bc a button was broken. New battery, the black RFID chip (grain of rice) and mother board was switched over the new “fob housing”…. I can use it to crank the car …. BUT I CANNOT get it to lock/unlock or pop trunk!!! PLEASE HELP!!!! How were you able to unlock the car the one you have??
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Brittany, it sounds like you did everything correctly. Maybe the "motherboard" was damaged during removal? Try putting it back in the original fob housing? Is the little red light illuminating when you push a button? If not maybe the battery is dead or not making proper contact... Maybe it is upside down? When I got my new fobs I programmed the new motherboard with a Vag-Com. I linked in the description. The Vag-Com is available for ~$150 on ebay but it is an expensive tool for just one key. Maybe a locksmith would be willing to program it for relatively cheap (less than $50?)
@ThatSouthernPeach
@ThatSouthernPeach 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your reply. The motherboard most definitely works… all buttons when pressed “light up” the fob (tiny red button). What you did confirm is that a scan tool is needed to reprogram the fob to the “radio frequency” the car is putting out. Will definitely call around to find a locksmith tomorrow!! Trying to avoid the dealership at all costs… they won’t an ungodly amount!! Thanks again 🤗
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatSouthernPeach, it would be weird that the original motherboard would need to be reprogrammed. If it worked in the old shell then it should work fine in the new.
@Feddy99
@Feddy99 2 жыл бұрын
I had a beep with a leak signal. Not sure if you know what that might be I have a 2006 Volkswagen passat 2.0t luxury
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Does your "leak signal" look like this? www.aamcocolorado.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/dashboard14_0.jpg
@Feddy99
@Feddy99 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj YES! I haven't seen it in a while tho so idk if I'm good
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@Feddy99, pretty sure that's a low oil pressure indicator. It will most likely be caused by low oil level. If you check and the level is good then it could be something a simple as a oil pressure sender or electrical connection between the sender and the car's computer. Of course if the filter is clogged then that could cause a low pressure too. Check the oil level and top up first. FWIW I have to add about 1 qt every time I fill up with gas. The turbo seals are probably bad on mine.
@Feddy99
@Feddy99 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj I will take it to everything euro Monday morning. This car has been a roller coaster ride these last 4 years I've been driving it
@amywilloughby7562
@amywilloughby7562 2 жыл бұрын
Can you PLEASE tell me how to program the driver's seat position?! The seat position changes every time I open the door and it's driving me NUTS
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't know.
@ivelinmirchev9417
@ivelinmirchev9417 3 жыл бұрын
How to do this in a manual car?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I don't know. Maybe the clutch?
@thomascharles2692
@thomascharles2692 4 жыл бұрын
Do I have to change the key
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas! I'd love to help with your problem but I don't understand your question. This video was developed to help owners create more replacement keys. The dealer keys can run $300 or more. By following my method you can make/aquire keys for about $20 each.
@damg6003
@damg6003 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 CC 2.0 and the origonal key was lost. Is there any way to do this for my situation? Or do i need the original key? Please help this would save me and the wife a great deal. We dont have the money for a dealer to make a new one and we'll tale a great loss trying to sell it woth no key. Thanks on advanced
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
With absolutely no original key you don't have many options.
@Chyloku
@Chyloku 2 жыл бұрын
Hi did you resolve your problem? I have same problem . I got only one spare key and I'm afraid now.
@NubianLion7
@NubianLion7 2 жыл бұрын
About to attempt surgery...so it still needs to be in range to work ..but actually being INSIDE the fob is what's throwing the immobilizer active code?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
There could be other things throwing the immobilizer code... Like a bad ignition module or and ignition module that has not been adapted to the car. But if you buy and aftermarket fob or replacement fob then the new RFID chip (grain of rice) will need to be programmed to the car or the old one removed from the old fob and installed in the new fob.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Immobilizer 4 is just the version of immobilizer that Volkswagen put in this model of car.
@NubianLion7
@NubianLion7 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj thanks for responding J...ok so u took out the chip..Crazy question....whats the difference in it being in the fob or being outside the fob taped next to the ignition...i mean it doesnt know its outside the fob...and the car doesnt know its outside the fob either..right? not sure if im making sense lol...but tell me why does it work?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
@@NubianLion7 you're absolutely correct. As long as the chip is near the car's ignition receiver (in the key hole for the fob) then the immo4 will detect the chip AND validate that it is not just "a chip" but also a chip that the car has been programmed to recognize. In my case I only had one working fob but wanted to have a spare and one for my wife. Getting 2 fobs from the dealer would have cost over $600. By gluing the chip inside the cover for the ignition switch it was kinda like leaving the fob in the ignition but without anyone being able to tell. Of course, without knowing exactly how to operate the ignition plunger without a fob, it would be difficult to start the car even if you knew the chip was glued in. So I had bought new fob cases from ebay and they were all capable of starting the car. Getting used motherboards for the fobs or finding used fobs with good motherboards allowed me to transplant the boards into my empty fob cases. With a Vag-Com I programmed the circuit board to lock and unlock the doors.
@NubianLion7
@NubianLion7 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj what a breakdown!!...your good! Lol .sheesh ..ok...I appreciate the quick response I just subscribed and hit notifications so thanks again!! Wish me luck bro😎
@omurcanguler8668
@omurcanguler8668 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Josh, could you please tell me how to put cover of that remote? (the one that you take off easily on 0:59 second on this video, written engine/start stop) My service take it off but they couldn't put it back.. How to do it?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
There are 2 small metal tabs on opposite sides of the cover that act as barbs to hold it in place. They tend to bend about 180° when the cover is first removed. They are not supposed to be bent - just straight. If you straighten them you should find that the cover will now be retained. Get the horizontal alignment right the first time because re-alignment will require removal and then the tabs will bend again.
@omurcanguler8668
@omurcanguler8668 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj I think left one is already bend.. Should I make it straight again or how to do it? Could you please help me visually once you're available please? :( my instagram: omurbusy
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Assuming that the cover was removed I can almost guarantee that the tabs ARE bent as you indicate. If so, they will be U shaped and the ends will face into the dash instead of straight with ends facing towards the driver. Just unbend them so that they are relatively straight. Use tweezers or needle nose pliers. They don't have to be perfect.
@omurcanguler8668
@omurcanguler8668 3 жыл бұрын
​@@muckleyj Hahahaah I broke left one :D I think I need to buy new cover if I find.. :D
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
The junk yard is your best bet. TBH you could use a little mastic type glue. Goop or door seal adhesive.
@alhibbert652
@alhibbert652 2 жыл бұрын
question is the plastic key actually programed? I purchased a extra fob and I have seen yours and other videos on how to program the fob itself. to replace on lost... So a locksmith can cut me a new key.. That will really only be used to unlock the door and gas cap etc.. but that key does not have any coding?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
The plastic part that is what actually attaches to your keyring and allows you to lock the glove box, rear seats, gas cap, and trunk (it also let's you manually unlock the drivers side door) - that piece of plastic does not have an RFID or any other electronic components that are programmed or would need to be. You can find those blanks for about $2 on ebay. Buy a bunch. The key machine at ACE took a lot of care and repeated tries to get a working copy. It's not like cutting a brass blank.
@VictorHugo-lw1mp
@VictorHugo-lw1mp Жыл бұрын
Ich habe ein Problem mit einem Passat FSI 2007. Er hat kein Lenkrad und keine Fenster. Er hat ein gelbes Lichtsymbol für eine Richtung
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
"Ich habe ein Problem mit einem Passat FSI 2007. Er hat kein Lenkrad und keine Fenster. Er hat ein gelbes Einweglichtsymbol"? Es tut mir leid, ich weiß nicht, wie ich dir helfen soll.
@VictorHugo-lw1mp
@VictorHugo-lw1mp Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj Guten Morgen das passat-problem, das ich habe, wenn ich den schlüssel anschließe, gibt er die richtung nicht frei und gibt ihn nicht frei, um die fenster anzuheben, ein gelber lus in form einer richtung auf dem panel erscheint nicht identifizierter schlüssel
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
Es tut mir leid, aber ich habe keine Antworten. Wenn Sie sich dadurch besser fühlen, ich hasse diese Autos.
@VictorHugo-lw1mp
@VictorHugo-lw1mp Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj Ich verstehe, ich dachte, Sie haben vielleicht Erfahrung mit diesem Modell. Ich habe dieses Problem und ich muss es wirklich lösen. Danke für die Mühe und Aufmerksamkeit. Entschuldigen Sie die Unannehmlichkeiten
@adrian5360
@adrian5360 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea, still working?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Yep no problems.
@tiagobianca9567
@tiagobianca9567 2 жыл бұрын
Meu amigo me ajude por favor 🙏🏻… desmontei como vc falou .. desamassei o ferrinho porém a tampa Ta caída não sei como encaixar a mola … me ajude aí por favor
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Oi! Sim, pareço me lembrar de ter um problema semelhante. Continuei trabalhando com a mola e finalmente consegui fazê-la funcionar. Desculpe, não posso explicar melhor. Na pior das hipóteses, você pode simplesmente substituí-lo. www.ebay.com/itm/Ignition-Start-Switch-Trim-Bezel-3C0905219B-For-VW-PASSAT-B6-B7-Passat-CC-/162159308364?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
@tiagobianca9567
@tiagobianca9567 2 жыл бұрын
Vc e fera amigo muito obrigado … agora tô com um problema q não consigo resolver de jeito nenhum .. minha chave de presença parou de funcionar não tranco e nem abro mais o carro com o sensor na maçaneta .. e pra ligar só colocando a chave nesse buraco .. antes ficava no bolso e eu conseguia ligar … já troquei as baterias do carro e até a do controle .. e nada … quando eu fecho o carro se eu passar a mao perto da maçaneta a luz da chave acende porém não tranca e nem abre
@charlieburton9967
@charlieburton9967 Жыл бұрын
On engine swapped cars. We glue it to the barrel
@loveprogramming2535
@loveprogramming2535 3 жыл бұрын
How I can do this thing as you did at 1:42, I don't have a left button on my shifter, I have a manual one, if you help me I would be thankful.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that these cars came with manual transmissions. I don't know how to help. Maybe type the clutch the same way I'm pressing the button? Or try holding the clutch and then shifting in and out of first gear?
@loveprogramming2535
@loveprogramming2535 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj I will try it, thank you!
@SunilKumar-ci3ue
@SunilKumar-ci3ue 2 жыл бұрын
First show immobilizer is active and then we are going to adapt ignition key show 0-1 key not adapted
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be happy to help but I don't understand if you are asking a question or making a statement.
@rishinmitra7550
@rishinmitra7550 5 жыл бұрын
Greetings Josh! **This is very urgent!** VW Passat 2010, my original key got stuck inside and Immobilizer active message is coming. I was able to pull it out somehow but it gets locked again if I insert it. I cannot start the car. Please help urgently!!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 5 жыл бұрын
To get it out you can pull the shift lever "latch" repeatedly. You'll hear the steering column solenoid click each time. This should allow you to remove the key. It is locking in the ignition because the RFID chip "grain of rice" isn't being read and interpreted by the ignition system. There are a couple recalls and TSBs about this issue. If this was a working key and it suddenly stopped working I would try talking to the dealer. If this is a new key then it isn't properly coded to the car.
@rishinmitra7550
@rishinmitra7550 5 жыл бұрын
Josh of All Trades thanks for the reply! I have two original keys. The first one may be malfunctioning. But now since the ignition is in the immobiliser state the second key is not working as well. When I am inserting the second key the “immobiliser active” does not go away. I am the unluckiest person if both of my keys are out of order. But is there any way to deactivate the immobiliser or start the car without going to the dealer now? The dealers are bunch of crooks. (Its a manual Passat b6)
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 5 жыл бұрын
@@rishinmitra7550, I don't like the stealership either! I'm still pretty sure that this is a TSB/recall that will be covered under warranty.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 5 жыл бұрын
@@rishinmitra7550, recall 4815
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 5 жыл бұрын
forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?7045003-Steering-column-warning#/topics/7045003
@shawnfranks792
@shawnfranks792 3 жыл бұрын
Can you email me a picture of your fuse and relay diagram plz? My friend switched some relays around in my damn car now It won't start smh
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the box under the hood near the battery? I'd need your email address.
@shawnfranks792
@shawnfranks792 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj all of the fuse box locations if possible lol plz he took all the fuses out of my car while I was in jail
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Got it... Give me a few hours.
@shawnfranks792
@shawnfranks792 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj did you get a chance to take the pics of the relay box diagrams and fuses in both sides of doors, under steering wheel and under hood?
@deejamesdaboss
@deejamesdaboss 3 жыл бұрын
i watch 6 video b4 I just turn the key upside down n it worked idk might hepl someone
@KarolFragoso
@KarolFragoso 2 жыл бұрын
It help me thanks
@sanjubaba3703
@sanjubaba3703 4 жыл бұрын
Hi josh i have 2009 model passat and its not getting start at after noon time and showing immobilizer active at the time, how can i fix this problem man. Itz been a while waiting to get help from anh one!please help me bro?!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry bud, I got nothing... Does it happen at exactly 12 noon? Or is it just during the warmest part of the day? What time does it reset and allow you to start the car? That seems bizarre.
@sanjubaba3703
@sanjubaba3703 4 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj yes during the warmest time and it also appear "steering colomn lock", both problem is connected?
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
@@sanjubaba3703 yeah I think the 2 problems are related. There are a few recalls related to the ignition module you might try the dealer first. The nice thing is that the push to start module is not a programmed component. It is a plug and play replacement so if you have a junk yard or donor car available you might be able to replace the module cheap. Of course checking the contacts and plugs on the module first is probably not a bad idea.
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 жыл бұрын
www.ebay.com/i/371901865563?rt=nc&_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20161006002618%26meid%3Dd49baa46053241f381c42b00e2aa709b%26pid%3D100694%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D29%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D372301829340%26itm%3D371901865563%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2386202
@sanjubaba3703
@sanjubaba3703 4 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj thanks bro, thanks alot lemme check that 👍
@kiingwhite3808
@kiingwhite3808 Жыл бұрын
So buy a new key and take the chip out to put in the other? Or just buy a new key
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
There are three parts to these "keys". First is the plastic housing and buttons. These empty cases can be bough on eBay for about $20. As an empty case the buttons won't lock/unlock the doors. If you put the empty case into the push to start ignition it will fit and it will engage as though it is starting the car. But! The car won't start. On the dash you'll see a message that says Immobilizer Active. This is because you are missing the second part that makes up these keys - the little grain of rice (RFID Chip). These chips are what match the plastic case to that specific car. They are also the most expensive part to program if you need a new key made. If you have an old trashed out key you can move the chip from the old to the new and now when you attempt to use the "empty" case from ebay, it will start the car. In my video I simply show how to glue that grain of rice to the ignition switch so that it defeats the immobilizer to allow use of any plastic key housing. Of course these empty plastic cases still don't lock/unlock the doors since they are missing the third part - the circuit board. Any old circuit board from a used old key in the junkyard or on eBay can be reprogrammed to lock/unlock the doors. The reprogramming is done with VCDS vag-com from Ross-Tech. The device is about $150 on ebay and useful for lots of other mods and repairs. You might want to check out the links in the description.
@kiingwhite3808
@kiingwhite3808 Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj ok I think I got it. Buy another key fob from eBay or 2. And reprogram them to my specific vehicle using the program you mentioned. Right? Lol I’m sorry I’m handy but the most I’ve done with the fob is replace the battery. I can do a lot of mechanical stuff but this is stumping me 😂
@muckleyj
@muckleyj Жыл бұрын
@@kiingwhite3808 maybe the best way to answer tour question is to determine what it is you need. How many working keys do you have currently? How many do you want?
@kiingwhite3808
@kiingwhite3808 Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj none working lol
@kiingwhite3808
@kiingwhite3808 Жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj well it sometimes works sometimes I get immobilized message
@richpolmateer7142
@richpolmateer7142 3 жыл бұрын
Why not spend the 150 from a locksmith to do a whole new key completely programmed
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Cause it's $150 on a 18 year old car worth $1000. I'd rather it not be stolen but I'm not paying 15% of its value so my wife can have a key or I can have a spare. Listen if the video helped then great... If not then just keep walking. Sorry for wasting your precious time.
@marthasanchez9428
@marthasanchez9428 2 жыл бұрын
Amigo tengo un problema con mi volkswagen passat 2009 motor 4 cilindros automático esta prácticamente muerto le doy llave y no hace nada ya lo revisaron varias veces y no encuentran la falla repare la computadora del vehículo y nada todavía llevo dos años con mi auto sin encontrar una solución 🥺
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
¿Ningún poder? ¿Revisar la batería? ¿Fusibles? Parece que la computadora no está recibiendo energía.
@marthasanchez9428
@marthasanchez9428 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj compre una batería también compre otro llavin donde va introduces la llave y nada
@marthasanchez9428
@marthasanchez9428 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyjno le está llegando corriente al llavin de la llave tampoco porque le pongo corriente y enciende el sistema y abre el suich. Incluso da star. Y arranca pero se apaga, 🥺. Incluso lo raro es que tampoco no enciende la luz del chek engine cuando abro el suich. Ojo solo enciende el sistema del suich cuando le pongo corriente a un cable del llabin donde va la llave De lo contrario no hace absolutamente nada amigo ayudame te puedo pagar si me ayudas 🥺
@marthasanchez9428
@marthasanchez9428 2 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj ya todo eso se reviso y no es eso
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fuse is blown. There is a fuse panel on the left side of the dash when the driver side door is open. Check there AND under the hood by the battery.
@RosbelGarcia-kx2du
@RosbelGarcia-kx2du 10 ай бұрын
I opened my fob and it did not have that grain of rice looking
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 10 ай бұрын
Did the fob look the same as mine?
@jermainehouston2014
@jermainehouston2014 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE READ AND HELP ME! This is an actual copy and paste from my messeages today from Volkswagen. I took car in running fine always would have to do the trick to halfway put key in to start car because I kept getting Immobilizer active! My car would start every time tho! I got tired of hassle took it in the lady tell me to get new key fob. I pay for it a week ago went in today just to tell me they cant reprogram it and now my car is STUCK there!!! I told them the car came in running get it back running idc! They insist I get this stuff done full price! On top of shitty customer service! Pushing my programming date back just to do other job they literally treated me like shit!! I feel lost and hopeless with this huge bill and only thing they saidnthey can do is pay the towing and I STILL HAVE TO PAY 82 for programming it. Now I have a car that doesnt start that was running perfectly fine. Btw I took it in for a diagnostics last month cuz of engine problems I fixed and nothing about steering column comin up. I'll glady pay what needs to be done to get fix but the disrespect and unwillingness to understand my side of I didnt have to take this here!!!! They made it seem like they have no wrong in this! THEY TOLD ME TO BUY KEY TO FIX PROBLEM! I call bs on these people and something needs to be done. ANYBODY with resources or any solutions please let me know! So, the car is going to need the steering column lock replaced, then the key programmed to the vehicle--$929.00 total part, labor and tax. There is a possibility it may need the comfort module. We just had a vehicle in that needed lock, then needed the module. We won't know until we put the column lock in first. If it needs the module, it is an additional-$977.00 total parts, labor and tax. I do have to order the part. Please let me know how you want to proceed. Thank you and sorry it turned out like this...Anne --Anne Lemke Volkswagen of Milwaukee North 4142061565 is her number btw. These people are scam artist!!!!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
Does your car have the exact same ignition switch as shown in the video? I'd give what I did a shot. There are also a bunch of recalls on these ignition and immobilizer modules. Of course you can just tell them "You'll be getting a call from my lawyer!"
@jermainehouston2014
@jermainehouston2014 3 жыл бұрын
@@muckleyj I was getting immoblizer active message. Now I have immobolize defect!!! Remember they told.me they cant reprogram new or old one! I just got it towed to my garage and im lost! I called a lawyer and they arent even sure many lawyers who handles things like this. So basically they have me stuck I have to go thru them to get reprogrammed and have to get steering column which is dealer specific. MY CAR WORKED PERFECTLY FINE PRIOR TO ME TAKING IT TO THEM!
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 3 жыл бұрын
@@jermainehouston2014, small claims court. Your situation sucks. I'm sorry.
@OscarHernandez-rj1dl
@OscarHernandez-rj1dl 4 ай бұрын
Have they find out that you did that your insurance won't cover you
@muckleyj
@muckleyj 4 ай бұрын
That's a risk I'm willing to take considering the car is 18 years old and worth less than $1000. I'm certainly not paying the dealer $300 for a new key.
@OscarHernandez-rj1dl
@OscarHernandez-rj1dl 4 ай бұрын
@@muckleyj you just cheap cuz locksmiths to do it a little bit cheaper
@rick19871000
@rick19871000 4 жыл бұрын
Lol the grain of rice hahahah
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