Election results: what will Starmer really do with landslide win?

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The Conservatives have suffered their worst ever defeat as Keir Starmer has been swept to power in a landslide victory - but huge challenges are waiting in the new prime minister's intray, and while he has a massive majority now in Westminster, his support across the country is on shakier grounds.
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Some of Labour’s big names, who thought they’d be helping to form a new government, are out - beaten by pro-Gazan independents and Greens.
And now Nigel Farage says that, after decimating the Conservative vote and plunging the party into chaos, he has his eyes on Labour.
So what does this all mean, and what next for British politics?
In this election special edition of The Political Fourcast Krishnan Guru-Murthy was joined by former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng, Labour’s Bell Ribeiro-Addy and psephologist Luke Tryl.
Produced by Shaheen Sattar, Calum Fraser, Silvia Maresca, Rob Thomson, Nick Jackson.
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@M_Bamboozled 20 күн бұрын

Sorry Kwasi, but your opinion means nothing to me after your Tufton Street budget crash.

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 20 күн бұрын

but didn't you hear? the woke global financial system conspired to be spooked by the Truss budget 🤣

@mogznwaz 20 күн бұрын

You obviously have no idea what actually happened. Let me ask this…. How many times have you heard foreign leaders comment on another country’s internal tax policies?? It happened then. That was what alerted me, plus the fact that Sunak was the establishment choice not Truss.

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 20 күн бұрын

@@mogznwaz why would I be alarmed that, because our economy is such a key cog in the global economy, and therefore it hurts other countries' economies when it performs poorly, other countries would take a keen interest?

@aclark903 19 күн бұрын

@@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957Because it is fundamentally undemocratic for Canadians to choose a British PM..

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 19 күн бұрын

@@aclark903 which isn't what happened, or anything even approaching it

@notorio526 20 күн бұрын

Kwarteng helped pull a banker's heist with Tufton st. It's a disgrace that he's invited to speak, and his comments are worthless.

@PAD058 20 күн бұрын

100% agree. He is an economic terrorist and his mini budget cost the UK £30BN. What are Channel Four thinking?

@HellBot-gi5si 20 күн бұрын

Don't worry, Suella Braverman survive the purge. She rich, lazy, and corrupt what more do you want? She will lead the Tories to a new "Golden Age".

@Fefflefeff 20 күн бұрын

You're right, 51 seconds in and I'm stopping watching. We shouldn't be platforming people who've ruined peoples lives (he's genuinely harmed thousands of people)

@johnbrereton5229 20 күн бұрын

Kwasi didn't crash the economy, it was the Bank of England who dumped a trunc of gilts onto the market just as he made his announcement ! Why, because Kwasi was proposing a proper Conservative budget that would have invigorated the British economy. This is not what the B of E wanted, they were more concerned in doing the bidding of their globalist masters at the WEF.

@kh3777 19 күн бұрын

The hedge fund bankers labelled Chancellor Kwasi Kwateng as a useful idiot at the morning champagne breakfast before their hedge funds started to short the GBP and making profits at the expense of the British public.

@gatoraidorgator768 20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂 I can't hear them over the guy shouting "Jesus is coming repent"

@davidpeterson5647 20 күн бұрын

Someone should ask him, “Are you Catholic, Anglican, or some low-churches?”

@malcolmwallis4 20 күн бұрын

it is look like they are talking about the train which has left the a station 10 hours ago.

@aclark903 19 күн бұрын

@@davidpeterson5647 #Jesus is coming though. Maybe before the next general election!

@nilmagnifico8121 20 күн бұрын

Why do News outlets give Kwasi Kwarteng air time? Like he is some sort of expert!

@DavidBennell 20 күн бұрын

I mean, I am not exactly a fan, and very upset about his budget that screwed us all, but he obviously is intelligent and does seem to have some interesting insights.

@meme4one 20 күн бұрын

How is he obviously intelligent? Because he's plummy and throws in some big words?

@jrr3613 19 күн бұрын

@@meme4onehe went to Cambridge, you wouldn’t do better than him

@meme4one 19 күн бұрын

@@jrr3613 Boris went to Eton and Oxford. It doesn't make you a genius.

@Saudade720 19 күн бұрын

@@jrr3613 Going to Cambridge does not make you honest and trustworthy so they may do better.

@jcanyiam8309 20 күн бұрын

Starmer has absolutely no need to talk about Farage whatsoever- He's got more important things to think about, than Farage. Talking about Farage is like one PL manager complaining about another manager- he is not in the Labour Party- so why worry about him.

@Shane-ju7op 20 күн бұрын

Farage is dangerous! Reform vote killed the Conservative. Nigel is all about the spot light...

@BinnyBongBaron_AoE 20 күн бұрын

Let's revisit this in 5 years lol

@Caladonia 20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@gjingodjango 19 күн бұрын

Correct.

@shelleyscloud3651 19 күн бұрын

@@BinnyBongBaron_AoE🤫 never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake 😉

@Sa1985Mr 20 күн бұрын

Krishnan is by far the most coherent and hardest working political journalist

@YouTubecanbitemyhairybanger 20 күн бұрын

It's spelt "disgusting propagandist"

@brianokane8789 20 күн бұрын

"ATTITUDES? They were BEING racist homophones and sexist" 😂😂😂

@Nick-kb6jd 20 күн бұрын

One of the biggest issues with UK London bubble politics is that we get on “experts” like Kamikwaze and ask them questions as if they hadn’t already proven themselves totally unsuitable and incompetent at the business of government. Failing ever upward, public schoolboy style.

@HellBot-gi5si 20 күн бұрын

Kwasi Kwarteng is not an expert on economics. He is a total shill for 80 year old billionaires donors to the Tory party. Mr. Kwarteng's "tax cuts" was designed to make them rich. Dr. Kwasi Kwarteng is very educated but in classics and history with a PhD in Political history not economics.

@meme4one 20 күн бұрын

It's like asking a civil engineer who's surrounded by the rubble of a building he built and has totally collapsed, for his opinion on constructing a new one, but he's posh so must be intelligent and well meaning.

@antonydavis2764 19 күн бұрын

Corbyn failed at becoming PM but I’m still interested in what he has to say. Failure is no reason to dismiss someone’s experience.

@meme4one 19 күн бұрын

@@antonydavis2764 these guys didn't fail, they were dreadful, greedy and self servicing. Very different.

@antonydavis2764 19 күн бұрын

@@meme4one not really. They failed and you’ve just described some of the aspects of the failure.

@TheQuestionTheAnswer 20 күн бұрын

19:00 - I gotta say, I think this vote splitting thing should be looked at in a different way. The Conservatives only had their vote split by Reform, whilst Labour has both the Lib Dems and the Greens (and has had so for years).

@peterdixon7734 20 күн бұрын

Many years - decades, in fact. Blair offered the Libs a long-term deal in 1997, but, according to Alastair Campbell, too many egos got in the way.

@meme4one 20 күн бұрын

You could also argue that if the tories had done a good job, reform wouldn't even be on the cards.

@TheQuestionTheAnswer 20 күн бұрын

@@meme4one Honestly, I think it was probably inevitable that that crocodile Farage would poke his head out of the swamp at some point, good job or not.

@nUmBskulLL 18 күн бұрын

Yes but hd the tories not been total shite they probably wouldn't have had their vote split as aggressively@@TheQuestionTheAnswer

@johnrussell3961 20 күн бұрын

The nasty party lost and they think the answer is merge with a nastier party..

@user-vo7io1rz1r 20 күн бұрын

Comment lacks originality!

@ChrispyNut 20 күн бұрын

Because Capital still wins with Fascists. It's Socialists it's always afraid of.

@daviddowsett1658 20 күн бұрын

@@user-vo7io1rz1r Nasty Comment ...

@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 20 күн бұрын

@@user-vo7io1rz1r Reply not an improvement.

@StratsRUs 20 күн бұрын

Nahtzee Partee

@mistervo8185 20 күн бұрын

Reform 4 Seats!! 😂😂😂 BAHAHAHA!!! Looks like alot of Reform Hype bots gonna lose their jobs.

@lesliescottw 20 күн бұрын

you really have no clue have you hahahahahahahahahahaha

@MCrvngraddip2013 20 күн бұрын

They did get quite a few more votes than expected.

@chubbygallasso 20 күн бұрын

Reform 2029 🎉

@unvaxxeddoomerlife6788 20 күн бұрын

You will lose your job too.

@mistervo8185 20 күн бұрын

So much coping.. delicious 😋

@My_cool0 20 күн бұрын

i like this labour lady she talks her mind alot more than most of the labour cabinet

@tomfoolery9749 20 күн бұрын

In the 2015 general election, under Nigel Farage’s leadership, UKIP secured a total of 3,881,099 votes. Nearly a decade later, in the most recent election, Nigel Farage's Reform GB garnered 4,072,947 votes, showing an increase of less than 20,000 votes over this period. Specifically, in Clacton during the 2015 election, UKIP, with Douglas Carswell as the candidate, received 19,442 votes. Despite the added prominence of Nigel Farage, the vote count only increased by approximately 1,600 votes in subsequent elections. This data suggests that the political fringe represented by these parties has experienced minimal growth in voter support over nearly ten years.

@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 20 күн бұрын

Man I really needed to hear that.

@lesliescottw 20 күн бұрын

4 weeks to campaign from reform give it time within the next 5 years there support will grow these stats you pulled out means nothing you voted for a Tory party clone just a different name number will fall for labour

@blazzz13 20 күн бұрын

@@lesliescottw Scandal after scandal, and Farage's fake patriotism will eventually wear thin. Watch Nige fail to attend PMQs and critial voting days, just like he did in the European parliament

@mum2jka 20 күн бұрын

@@lesliescottwreform have had 6 months. We all knew there was going to be an election this year because tories 5 years was up soon. Using the excuse that reform only had 4 weeks when everyone else had 6 weeks is nothing but excuses, just like everything else that Farage finds excuses for.

@ancietman 20 күн бұрын

Reform nearly got half as many votes as Labour with no money and a leader that took over 4 weeks ago let the sink in. If it was PR voting system Farage and Reform would have 100+seats.

@chubbygallasso 20 күн бұрын

British electorate 5 years behind the French .

@suburbia2050 20 күн бұрын

In what way

@meme4one 20 күн бұрын

Clearly in the way we will have some more right wingers coming in, in 5 years.

@shelleyscloud3651 19 күн бұрын

IYKYK all we can do for now is sit back and watch the show 🍿

@JamesSmith-qs4hx 20 күн бұрын

Replacing rishi with starmer is like being in a children’s hospital in the 70s and being told the jimmy saville visit has been cancelled only to here the didgeridoo coming down the corridor

@blazzz13 20 күн бұрын

Maybe Thatcher should have done something about it, instead of making him her best mate

@chubbygallasso 20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂Brilliant ! And very apt!

@suburbia2050 20 күн бұрын

I think that analogy says more about you than anything

@Liendoelcm 20 күн бұрын

Eh?

@alice1374 20 күн бұрын

The first thing Starmer did to not take on farage was move his black candidate into the midlands from clacton due to him "getting more attention than starmer and was a threat to the campaign" You mean, someone who was really liked and could have defeated far right fascism right there and then.. At least in clacton was a price worth paying by not doing so?

@mikekram2199 20 күн бұрын

Is Kwasi Kwarteng high on Gak again?

@MrBoliao98 20 күн бұрын

He just brought Ghanian economics to the UK; how to crash a currency.

@ExiledGypsy 20 күн бұрын

I hope the speaker of the house won't let Farage repeat his behaviour in the Eoropean Parliament. Politician seem just as disappointed in the public just as much as the public is in them.

@indianairlines 20 күн бұрын

I really wish they would get rid of those bellends who stand outside parliament and Downing Street shouting into the wind. So annoying.

@Nick-kb6jd 20 күн бұрын

Give it a few years and they’ll be happy to oblige. Off to the gulag.

@peterdixon7734 20 күн бұрын

They should get a wind machine and ramp it up.

@omarsockni1981 20 күн бұрын

I could not watch this video the man shouting in the background was so off putting

@RodneySlinger 20 күн бұрын

It wasn't long till he stopped.

@StevenAllan-lt9vu 18 күн бұрын

Channel 4 is not an authority, just people with microphones and camera's.

@tonykinch4225 20 күн бұрын

3 Black commentators ??

@tonykinch4225 20 күн бұрын

Good old England Lost country and culture

@badgershands 20 күн бұрын

2 ex MP's talking about politics. What's the colour of their skin got to do with anything?

@tonykinch4225 18 күн бұрын

Everything!

@suecole7338 19 күн бұрын

It's important for the public to increase their understanding of the workings of Parliament and to critically evaluate information from various sources, rather than relying solely on mainstream media which can be misleading/untrue. Reform UK is a prime example as Nigel Farage is always on our screens - what about the others parties including the devolved nations.

@keepgoing7533 20 күн бұрын

Jon Voight's reverse smile in Anaconda.

@simoneh1639 20 күн бұрын

I’m not a Tory but I do have respect for Kwasi

@At0micFruit 20 күн бұрын

Krishnan saying here that if we had PR we would be in coalition talks and that people wouldn't want that and others agreeing, but if that was the case it would just be reflective of what people voted for. We're just not used to the idea of coalitions and working cross party but we have to accept that Labour have won a gargantuan majority FROM LESS THAN 34% of the vote - that is surely not right and representative of the views of the electorate.

@jackcox8854 20 күн бұрын

Kwarteng was absolutely correct about Farage. There are people who want a performer. I can disagree with him but his point there is right on.

@whatsgoingon1644 20 күн бұрын

Optimism and skepticism😅

@brianjupp1748 19 күн бұрын

Loads of Labour voters in the South East and South West voted Lib Dem to get the tories out it worked they got 72 seats Polls show support but voters now use tactical voting to get the result they want

@matthewclifton2510 20 күн бұрын

Labour only got 34% of the vote and 64% of seats in parliament. Broken Britain. Broken democracy. Reform this electoral system which leaves millions without representation. Labour has no popular mandate on these results - the country didn't choose them.

@lenabo9929 20 күн бұрын

The system is democratic. It is unfair yes. Unfair and undemocratic are different things. Everyone knows this system is benefial to larger parties. But simply getting pr will not make the county more democratic. We need a system that delivers stable government and an element of pr. Reform are acting like this is the first time this has ever happend. The lib dems have been shafted by it in the past. If labour want they could change the system to have some pr which best benefits them

@kh3777 19 күн бұрын

Totally agree with FPTP , it's way past it's sell by date. But Labour played according to the current rules.

@kh3777 19 күн бұрын

Channel 4 scraping the bottom of the barrel with Kwasi Kwateng, could C4 not have found a better speaker like Dominic Grieve?

@biornr.4031 19 күн бұрын

It sounds so weird to someone from the "outside" hearing them trash on coalitions as being chaotic. British politics themselves have a great capacity for chaos, as the last couple of PMs have proven thoroughly. And where I come from, we have proportional representation and coalitions are the standard, but they tend to work quite well, and this setup furthers debate and negotiation, which makes it so more people feel heard (which can also help dampen the feeling of needing a protest vote like Reform). If only you guys would be a bit more open minded when looking at potential alternatives to the current UK setup

@con2 20 күн бұрын

wait until you here from the tuv

@Shane-ju7op 20 күн бұрын

Extra time? You better hit the ground running or ya'll be out of office...

@concernedcitizens4110 16 күн бұрын

Well I think it’s quite fair considering you gave the Tories 14 years.

@kim-urban-edwards2083 19 күн бұрын

Why do BBC INSIST on acting as if Proportional Representation is the *only* alternative to First Past the Post? I get why the *parties* would like us to believe that, but COME ON, BBC! Banging on about PR is just convincing people there's nothing better than FPTP when FPTP is awwwful. (Imo Single Transferable Vote would be PERFECT for this country.)

@fintamaria2429 20 күн бұрын

Who is giving advice now, some who have privatized everything, to make profits even the air we breathe... They don't have to do much, just educate the young and make sure that working parents can afford a roof over their heads , and they will never reach the food bank after 8 hours of work to feed their CHILDREN😢😢😢

@simoneh1639 20 күн бұрын

Polling drives voting is spot on

@dulcettonezzz8229 19 күн бұрын

Are these all real people or is it acting? I don’t know if channel four news it a sort of fictional show now. Don’t get me wrong i like it but not sure if it’s real

@davidwestwater2219 20 күн бұрын

Labor will screw it up

@AnEnemy100 20 күн бұрын

He’s a centrist so… he will do nothing.

@duncannapier318 20 күн бұрын

Kwarteng and Channel 4 are two members of the same WhatsApp group that could be brilliant but chose to be as hollow as each other. Channel 4 specifically is an absolute disgrace.

@mysteriousfox88 20 күн бұрын

the leftover tories are already starting their new grift

@nUmBskulLL 18 күн бұрын

Just leave reform alone to eat themselves. They will vote split with the tories. You should be going after lib dem votes

@lisadefries6718 20 күн бұрын

I think best thing is get country running well and sort out migration issue in a professional manner then Farage will evaporate

@CARLOSMANUELLUCININICAS 20 күн бұрын

I'm asking for your prayers and support. Please send healing vibes my way.

@RodneySlinger 20 күн бұрын

Gaza is a Middle East issue. Let the Middle East deal with it.

@HellBot-gi5si 20 күн бұрын

You can't because if the go crazy your fuel prices will go through the roof. Think Rodney! Geez, people say the understand "Globalization" but you really don't.

@bempowered138 20 күн бұрын

Stop meddling in the middle East then... there would be no mess.

@NexusTheFocus 20 күн бұрын

Yes let's stop arms sales to Israel and other practical support then we can really say that.

@vincentblack7467 20 күн бұрын

We are doomed, down the toilet we go.

@ciararespect4296 20 күн бұрын

We're already way down the sewer? Where have you been for fourteen years??

@shelleyscloud3651 19 күн бұрын

@@ciararespect4296no one is denying that. Merely noting that this lot could be the final nail.

@GenWivern2 20 күн бұрын

A day off from Etonians with delusions of competence would be nice, under the circumstances.

@Cteabis 20 күн бұрын

There are no shortage of privately educated people in Labour

@mikeydread62 20 күн бұрын

@@CteabisEr, no. (From that radical left wing organ The Telegraph) Almost two thirds (63 per cent) of the 650 MPs who now make up the House of Commons are thought to have gone to a comprehensive school, with three quarters of Labour MPs (73 per cent) going to a state school, according to the Sutton Trust.

@Cteabis 20 күн бұрын

@@mikeydread62 yeah 27% qualifies as no shortage

@mikeydread62 20 күн бұрын

@@Cteabis It’s the lowest proportion of private school representation since 1945. Is there some alternative Britain you’re comparing the new government to?

@rwo5402 20 күн бұрын

The the Tories made Nigel what he is now, and Labour has to take him on. That is the BS to be expected from a 5 minute chancellor. I think the Tories have to take on Nigel unless they want to be gobbled up by Nigel.

@knockshinnoch1950 19 күн бұрын

KWASI SHOULD BE BANISHED!

@fintamaria2429 20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@teebeedahbow 20 күн бұрын

Does Kwateng know he was the most disastrous Chancellor of all time. The man os a complete failure politically, and an absolute liability. Why are C4 putting him on the telly?

@HellBot-gi5si 20 күн бұрын

Dr. Kwanteng degree is not in economics it in political science. He is a "bag man", his "tax cuts" was design to pay off Billionaire Tory donors.

@sd-gy4qw 19 күн бұрын

Biased no doubt wouldnt bother watching

@brigittapayne6203 20 күн бұрын

I would leave the country but as Reform are doing well, there is hope . Also will be interesting to watch Starmer and his team how they will cope with All challenges.

@HellBot-gi5si 20 күн бұрын

You don't understand the Tories, Greens, Reform, the Lib Dems are not going be able to deal with the next crisis. These parties are hopeless. When the "Energy Crisis" hit you Nigel Farage hasn't got a clue on how to deal with such things.

@suburbia2050 20 күн бұрын

I think it would be hilarious to hear how you think Reform would cope with All challenges. Let me guess, tax cuts for the rich?

@peterjackson1977 20 күн бұрын

Out go the tories, in comes genocide keith.. cosmic..

@StratsRUs 20 күн бұрын

Kwarteng the expert failure

@standstand6569 20 күн бұрын

4.1 million votes for Reform UK after a 4 week campaign is spectacular !

@ChrispyNut 20 күн бұрын

They had more money than the Tories, years of all parties trumpeting their campaign messages and constantly media coverage of their campaign. The only thing spectacular about it, is the "apparent" surprise of the Liberal Establishment, which they're not a threat too, unlike Greens who'll change the economics to work for people, not corporations.

@zhi2219 20 күн бұрын

They just took conservatives voters. Nothing too impressive

@TheLukeLambert 20 күн бұрын

With the amount of money he poured into the election, i'm frankly shocked he didn't get more seats, talk about value for money!

@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 20 күн бұрын

@@TheLukeLambert Who funded that anyway?

@lenabo9929 20 күн бұрын

Thats is no surprise. They are a new party dont have local teams that know the area and how to win local constiuencies. Reform tried to run a national campaign which doesnt work for small parties. The lib dems are evidence of that

@reallymakesyouthink 20 күн бұрын

He'll keep supporting Jen O Side in Gaza.

@thisiscleary 20 күн бұрын

I votes the tories out. Next I'll vote reform...

@christineseb 20 күн бұрын

Does that means more immigrants and refugees for the UK?

@davidwhite8045 20 күн бұрын

Hopefully the first thing our new Government does is to get some tugs and a film crew, then Tow the Bibi Stockholm from our Great Country because we are not all Racists

@tarqinquentinsson-obviousl957 20 күн бұрын

who says that the country "wouldn't want" there to currently be coalition talks? it works perfectly well in most other democracies the world-over it's certainly better than seat proportions which don't even remotely map onto the popular vote, and it leads to more pragmatic and consensus-based governance

@syleshwhycantileavethisbla802 20 күн бұрын

The last time we had a coalition it didn't go so well, but that wasn't the same same sort of coalition that PR would be.