Wire a STORABLE POOL w/ an EQUIPOTENTIAL bonding grid

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This video shows how to wire and ground an above ground swimming pool. This includes showing how to set up an equipotential bonding grid and how to install GFCI circuit breakers to protect the wiring and other pool-related equipment.
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@Mrcaffinebean Ай бұрын

Probably the best video on this topic. Very complete. Had no idea the service outlet and timer were requirements.

@MrJujubean 3 ай бұрын

Great video. I had no idea all those different points of that pool system needed to be grounded

@electricalron 2 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video?

@realitycheck74 Жыл бұрын

Great video! First time viewer of your channel. You appear to be a very detailed and professional contractor. Very informative and attention to detail! Respect.

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

The Navy left that effect on me (attn to detail).

@swervomatic Жыл бұрын

Im getting ready to go quote an above ground pool job and this was a great refresher. Thanks a lot!

@vince6829 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing.

@hanscloss4063 2 жыл бұрын

great video

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@lopezoscari 2 жыл бұрын

What brand of spade terminals do ypu use? I has been loking for the right ones that are listed. Very clever the lock receptacule and plug for the pump.

@josephmatta2753 2 жыл бұрын

isn't a voltage drop for #12 wire for 100 feet underground plus from that Jbox to panel inside ?

@xavierxavier5847 Жыл бұрын

Question, are the easy connectors required on each conduit?

@johnduffy532 Жыл бұрын

Hi Ronnie, Great video! I may have missed the spec on the depth of the trench for the conduit?

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

If the circuit is 120 volts and 20 amps or less, in conduit, and GFCI-protected, the minimum depth is 12" to the top of the conduit.

@jeffreylonigro1382 Жыл бұрын

Nice install, Sparky. Did you bury the #8 all the way around the pool? In our jurisdiction they want the ground bonded as well.

@journeymusic Жыл бұрын

Should I start at the skimmer first, make my four connections equally around the pool and end up at the pump or do I end up back at the skimmer? Thanks

@lopezoscari 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. One question about equipotencial bonding. Do you run the 8awg wire also to the pump? is this wire required to be conected t the ECG? love the video. Very well edited.

@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын

The equipotential bonding grid terminates at the pump motor lug. From there it is bonded to the equipment grounding conductor.

@suemoravec422 Жыл бұрын

This is very helpful, my question is my pool pump for my above ground pool will be more than 25' from my pool outside of a pre existing pool cage I can bond the pool but do I need to run the bonding wire to the pump if the pump is grounded at next to my electrical panel?

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Yes, the #8 solid connects the metal frame of the pool and terminated at the pool pump lug beneath the motor b

@thereefaholic 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Does the code “require” a 20 amp circuit? My pool has a 15 amp motor and plug

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Yes.

@MrKen59 Жыл бұрын

How many people install above ground pools and simply plug it in the wall? I had no idea about all the grounds required. Thank you.

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, too many and it’s obviously very dangerous to mix water and electricity.

@FixItWithMe 8 ай бұрын

If a pool heater has two lugs for connecting the 8 AWG copper wire to, if I was to connect a new saltwater generator, could I just connect it to the second empty lug on the heater? Or does it have to be the same lug that has the current copper wire that attaches the pump to the heater?? Thanks!!!

@slappadabass3290 7 күн бұрын

Hey Ron. I’m being told that an above ground pool does not need to be bonded in 4 points if it has a vinyl liner. Is that true? Pool has metal walls but vinyl liner

@user-cd2kb8re2x Жыл бұрын

Are you making a complete circle around pool with bond wire or you starting at skimmer hitting the 4 points and ending at pump ? From there it uses equipment grounding conductor

@RagingRapids311 Ай бұрын

I can’t fine the answer to this question. It’s either 1) pump, hit 4 posts, end at skimmer OR 2) pump, 4 posts, pump, then skimmer (this way you’re not going up and down to skimmer

@billjohnson7347 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Does code allow you to use UF cable in the conduit or must it be individual THHN conductors?

@electricalron 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT question! Actually, UF wire is not permitted unless the equipment grounding is insulated. I've never seen any but I'm not saying it doesn't exist. The main requirement is the insulated equipment grounding conductor for pool circuits.

@RagingRapids311 Ай бұрын

And that the wire be THWN

@VegasGuy1975 11 ай бұрын

Is there any reason the depth for the bonding wire can not be deeper than the mentioned 4” to 6”?

@20bluezl17 Жыл бұрын

Question regarding the bonding for the 4 points. If the above ground pool is a resin pool which nothing is metal. What exactly do you have bond besides the skimmer? Do you just bond the wall connection joint which is metal?

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Bonding doesn’t have to be complicated. If it can be energized than it has to be bonded.

@20bluezl17 Жыл бұрын

Ok so only the wall bar connection, skimmer and pump. Does the #8 have to still go around the pool?

@realitycheck74 Жыл бұрын

@@20bluezl17 if my interpretation or knowledge of pool bonding is correct, I would say to try and picture it like and underground force field or grid/perimeter that protects anything within the inside of the binding ring in essence. That’s why they are recommended to be 18-24 inches away from the pool. It’s like your standing on protected ground sorta. You can also make additional ring around you pump/filter setup for protection as long as it is all linked together. Just my opinion, not gospel or telling you what to do. Hope my explanation helps. Let me know. Thanks! Good luck!

@rlharmon1972 2 ай бұрын

Hey Ron, what do you do when all the parts are resin except for the side wall? Do you still need to run the bonding wire around the pool if there is nothing to connect it too?

@electricalron 2 ай бұрын

No.

@RagingRapids311 Ай бұрын

Thought the cord from the motor couldn’t exceed 3ft? 680.21(A)(3)

@21isAlliNeed 26 күн бұрын

Is there a difference between regular pool from sams club to those from the video that are actual big metal pools?

@electricalron 26 күн бұрын

If its metal its conductive it needs to be bonded. If its vinyl there's 0% chance of current flowing through it.

@Nahum17good 19 күн бұрын

I thought code is 18” minimum depth for pvc conduit

@electricalron 19 күн бұрын

@@Nahum17good NEC Table 300.5

@slappadabass3290 12 күн бұрын

Hey Ron! When doing the equipotential bond do you also have to hit one of the bolts that connects the wall together?

@electricalron 12 күн бұрын

@@slappadabass3290 of course!

@slappadabass3290 12 күн бұрын

@@electricalron Does that count as one of the four posts?

@RagingRapids311 25 күн бұрын

Do you have to use schedule 80 PVC when coming up out of the ground, or do inspectors allow schedule 40?

@electricalron 25 күн бұрын

@@RagingRapids311 you have to ask yourself: is this subject to psychical damage?

@RagingRapids311 25 күн бұрын

@@electricalron weed whacker, lawnmower So yes?

@jillserviss5848 10 ай бұрын

How do you or are you required to bind the wall of a wood pool

@jillserviss5848 10 ай бұрын

Seriously do you need to bond an inground wood wall pool. If that wood gets wet it could potentially conduct electricity. I am guessing that you could bond the water through the skimmer

@hippo-potamus Жыл бұрын

How do you VERIFY you actually have equipotential voltage across all bonded components? 1) how do you test the main panel earth voltage as a reference point and 2) how do you subsequently verify all bonded structures read the same voltage ?

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

The purpose of the equipotential bonding grid is to eliminate any voltage gradients around the pool. The grid is connected to the pool pumps equipment grounding conductor. This circuit is GFCI-protected. If as much as 6 milliamps of current flows on the equipotential bonding grid the GFCI circuit breaker will trip, thus saving someone's life if they happen to be in the swimming pool.

@hippo-potamus Жыл бұрын

@@electricalron Ah. That makes sense. So basically just make sure all your bonding connections are solid and run the pool equipment off of a dedicated gfci protected circuit. Thanks for the informative reply. -Cheers mate.

@slappadabass3290 26 күн бұрын

Does the pump have an on/off switch? If not how are they going to backwash without a disco on the post?

@electricalron 26 күн бұрын

@@slappadabass3290 the cord is the disconnect.

@slappadabass3290 26 күн бұрын

@@electricalron kind of a pain to backwash unplugging and plugging back in isn’t it? Especially a twist lock Not knocking your install but a WP toggle might be nice to add

@Noteverleyschannel Жыл бұрын

What was the gauge of the thwn wire?

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

#12 AWG

@FixItWithMe 2 жыл бұрын

Hi from Manalapan!!! :) Just came across your channel!! Love your videos!!! Can you make a video on bonding pool equipment?? I want to install a sacrificial zinc anode and bond it correctly. Thanks!!!! :)

@jamalissa954 2 ай бұрын

Why no Timer?

@gmann212 Жыл бұрын

Man that makes me nervous when you pull off the wall legs or covers like you called em. My wall legs or covers are directly holding up the liner and the pool. Mine also sit on a resin cup so there was no need to take them apart or anyway for that matter since the weight of the pool is holding it down. Great video tho! It was really informative

@gmann212 Жыл бұрын

How is this a “storable pool”? A storable pool is typically a cheap soft sided pool not an above ground pool that you don’t take down every year

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

As defined by the NEC.

@user-cd2kb8re2x Жыл бұрын

Are you making a complete circle around pool with bond wire or you starting at skimmer hitting the 4 points and ending at pump ? From there it uses equipment grounding conductor

@electricalron Жыл бұрын

Thanks!