Fixing a Honda HSS928 Tilt (Seized Gas Assist Damper)

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Fixing a Honda HSS928 Tilt (Seized Gas Assist Damper)

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2 жыл бұрын

Step by Step!
Today we'll be fixing the tilt mechanism on a Honda HSS928 snow blower, by removing, and lubricating a seized Gas Assist Damper.
Honda uses a 2-way Gas Assist Damper with a manually operated relief valve, to allow the auger housing on the snow blower to tilt backwards and forwards.
This is for 2 reasons; 1 is for cutting higher snow drifts, and the 2nd being increased mobility during transportation.
A common issue with this tilt feature, is that the Gas Assist Damper sometimes gets seized into the compressed or extended position.
This usually happens during storage, when the snow blower has sat for an extended period of time, and has not moved from that position.
Once the Gas Assist Damper seizes, it will not allow the operator to change the position of the snow blower's auger housing.
If the Gas Assist Damper gets seized in the compressed position (Raised auger housing) the snow blower will not function properly to clear snow from your drive way.
Additionally, if the Gas Assist Damper gets seized in the extended position (Lowered auger housing) the snow blower will be difficult to move.
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@jagdhillon254 Жыл бұрын

The same Honda unit brought me to your video. You saved me a trip to the shop and money, thank you. I thought I had the same issue (seized damper), but with your step by step video I learned that all I needed was a simple cable adjustment! Be proud for this great contribution.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words Jag, glad you're up and running again!

@TedPurcell Жыл бұрын

Fixed my snowblower in no time while watching your video. You made it easy to follow. The local service dealer said they don’t repair gas shocks because they are only $40 or $50 dollars to buy & another $100 labor to install. Great job Jake.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes here in Canada the OEM ones go for hundreds and of course the labor for them to change them, 9/10 they just get seized and need some lubricant sprayed in them. Glad you got fixed up!

@brur2053 6 ай бұрын

Thanks my friend , my wire has been broken because the mechanism was jam .. i applied your technic .. I change the wire and this is great .... thanks again ....

@motorcoachtech7615 2 жыл бұрын

Very well explained Jake. We use similar cylinders on a smaller scale for passenger seat recliners on motorcoaches. Nice you had "The Old Man” there to help. Keep putting out good videos. Cheers. Rick

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@alanrobison3298 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Jake! I am always impressed with the way that you explain what you are doing and why. You paint a picture that anyone can understand.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

That's the way I like to do it! First explain how things work, why and how it broke, and then explain (as well as show) how to fix it. Thanks for watching!

@susanoneill8965 2 жыл бұрын

It's July now , and i've decided to look into my hs724 "won't go up or down problem" . I spent half a day looking for a parts list , not knowing what i was dealing with . Checking youtubes was fruitless until I found Jake . Wow , that's the problem I have . And it's called a Gas Assist Damper . Who Knew . Well , I watched the video once yesterday and once today ; followed the instructions exactly , and 30 minutes later , the damper is perfect . I'm a genius . So , so thankfull to the eliminator .

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Glad the video helped, thanks for watching!

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

If you tell me what you originally searched for (when my video didn't come up) perhaps I can add that to the video tags and it might come up for the next person who searches. For example, if you typed into Google "Honda hs724 won't go up or down" then I can add that to the video tags and hopefully it helps the next person, as I understand many don't know it's called a gas assist damper.

@TraceySquires Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great explanation. I watched the video once and was expecting to have to go back to it a few times while taking it apart, but I did it all in one shot and it works great. Saved me (not only) some $$$, but down time in the repair shop as well. Thanks a bunch Jake.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, thanks for watching!

@motoman5023 2 жыл бұрын

Cool video 27 years as a professional small engine mechanic at a toro dealer I have never seen one of therese. This will come in handy one day

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@mikejohnson1228 7 ай бұрын

thanks so very much for this video and relatively simple fix.

@andreastepunkt9982 7 ай бұрын

Vielen herzlichen Dank für deine Reparaturanleitung! Dieser Dämpfer ist bei uns ein sehr teures Ersatzteil ! Beste Grüße aus Österreich ! 👍👍👋

@39knights Жыл бұрын

Thankyou for the video. I have a 2014 HS928 and my tilt feature has not been working this last two winters. I have the opposite problem in that my blower free tilts so I actually have to pull up on the blower the whole time to keep the augers engaged. Needless to say its a tiresome venture. So now I have something to reference so I can try and figure out the problem. Great video.

@adz62 2 жыл бұрын

Was an easy fix on my Honda HS724 thanks to your excellent video.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you got it fixed up, thanks for watching!

@minouchat 2 жыл бұрын

I want to say thank you Jake for this video which was really useful to me. the Gas Assist Damper of my snowblower had started to go less well. With years of use it was normal for this to happen I think. Thanks again.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

Your detail to fixing things is so awesome.. The way you explain it you leave nothing out. But I don't know is that a good thing for you. You're teaching everybody how to fix snow blowers so well that they can do with themselves.. I'd be afraid to give all my hard work and information about how to fix things to people if I had a business that was making me money doing that same thing..

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

You'd think so, but most of the small engine repair channels here on KZfaq are actual small engine repair shops. Donyboy, Taryl, Steve's Saloon, Chickcanic. Also, 75% of my viewers are from the US, and I'm located in Canada. I'm usually always booked days ahead of time, so it hasn't negatively affected my business.

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance WOW THAT'S AWESOME!!! You're one person so maybe you'll always be busy. You also are excellent at what you do.. Imagine if You didn't give away secrets and be so detailed.. just promote your shop.. Could be possible you'd be booked more 🤣 Maybe you don't want to be 🤣 But yeah you are definitely the place to go to to learn things the right way.. never seen anyone so detailed. Explain everything so clearly...

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

@@muzikmon2267 thanks for the kind words, and definitely don't want to be any busier lol I always have something to do every day. The days I don't book, I pickup and deliver equipment that needs fixing or is already fixed lol or I film/edit a video

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance THAT'S DEFINITELY A GOOD POSITION TO BE IN!! ;)

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance And I'm glad that you're not holding repair information 🙂

@ChubbyButcher 2 жыл бұрын

ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO EP.. very well spoken and easy to understand..

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@GTE64 Жыл бұрын

I want to say Thanks to, I just did it on our 2007 HS970. Thanks again from Grandvaux-Switzerland

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Cheers from Ontario, Canada! Glad the video helped.

@bernardperrin6542 7 ай бұрын

Very explicit. Well done!😮

@MrMjn5000 2 жыл бұрын

nice job .. enjoy watching all your videos...

@jpolukoff Жыл бұрын

Excellent presentation! You have terrific education skills. Thank you.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gerald!

@LGilles56 Жыл бұрын

Very good video, it saves me time and money. PS: to remove and reinstall the damper, I used a quick-grip as I was alone to do the repair.

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Gilles!

@willkeen5010 10 ай бұрын

Super detailed video and your vocal explanation is so well done and easy to follow. My tilting mechanism is only foot lever controlled without the damper. My HS928 only wants to sit in the fully down or fully up position but will not sit in the middle normal operating position. From what I have read online, the spring tensioners wear and stretch overtime. Some have suggested drilling a new hole further back towards the rear and pulling the springs tighter. I have not found a video on this, but I thought I would run this idea by you. Appreciate any help you can give. Thank you.

@rotaryphoneuser1619 Жыл бұрын

Thank you..... worked perfect for me.

@pattayperformance 2 жыл бұрын

Great detailed video! I guess it’s time to add lubing up the rod to pre and post season maintenance! 🔧🇺🇸🦅🤙🏻

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@CM-rg6yq Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thank you!

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@sweetlou5902 2 жыл бұрын

Another great video!!

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@Big_Johns 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video EP, good of you to save that customer the cost of replacement. 👍🏼👍🏼

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Yes from what I can see, prices vary big time depending on what sites you search. Thanks for watching!

@Big_Johns 2 жыл бұрын

Very true and anytime sir.

@waynestefinashen239 2 жыл бұрын

A very good video on something that very few will ever see in real life because these snowblowers are really expensive. Hope i do not see another one i was the guy lifting that unit up for you to remove and reinstall that piston. You wanna talk about back strain WOW, but like helping you out. The OLD MAN at EP over and out! Think you are correct others may have charged for a new gas assist damper.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the HAND 👊😎👍

@Big_Johns 2 жыл бұрын

Smells like a workman’s comp claim in the making. 🤣🤣

@waynestefinashen239 2 жыл бұрын

@@Big_Johns Too old for that claim John

@Big_Johns 2 жыл бұрын

Ouch!!! 🤣🤣🤣

@Tommyr 2 жыл бұрын

My 23 year old Craftsman had tank treads, It didn't have that shock but was manually adjustable if I remember right. Never really used it though.

@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 2 жыл бұрын

Nice fix.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@TheRustyRooster 2 жыл бұрын

👍Great video Sir.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Rusty!

@donvoll2580 2 жыл бұрын

Good day Boy interesting ! 6-3 Boy I would be shorty in there at 5-6. Glad you had good strong help. Thanks

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@rogermcdonald1607 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video Jake! That looks like an expensive blower. Nice repair without just replacing the part which probably is pretty pricey. 🇨🇦🇺🇸👍

@waynestefinashen239 2 жыл бұрын

Roger i think it listed for $4600 Cdn plus the 13% hamonized sales tax HST

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Yes the gas assist dampers sell anywhere from $65-175 dollars Canadian from what I've researched. Usually a little bit of silicone lube gets them freed up. And yes, these units are not cheap, but they're well built and reliable. Thanks for watching!

@HondaSnowblowerEnthusiasts311 7 ай бұрын

Great video.

@EliminatorPerformance 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Anthony!

@HondaSnowblowerEnthusiasts311 7 ай бұрын

now i just have to make vids as good as you. very new to this.@@EliminatorPerformance

@EliminatorPerformance 7 ай бұрын

@@HondaSnowblowerEnthusiasts311 it's something that only gets easier with time. You'll learn how to edit better and make better thumbnails as you go along you learn so many things. I do small engine repair full time with my father and do videos on the side, though I've had to take a break recently due to how busy we've become.

@Samlol23_drrich 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely great video. Unfortunately mine has wheels. Always have "track envy" maybe one day......

@waynestefinashen239 2 жыл бұрын

Samlol23 you may not have so much envy when you get one, very hard to move around and extremely heavy machines. But great for driveways that have big slopes they will get the job done wheeled snowblowers will not work too much slippage.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

My customer would probably trade you, as he said the tracks are a little much for what he uses it for. Thanks for watching!

@themowerman 2 жыл бұрын

A massive bit of kit.. looks heavy as hell.. ta for the video jake..

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Very heavy, but a well built machine. Thanks for watching Mick!

@tomjohnston5862 2 жыл бұрын

My Honda HS724 has the same setup and it just failed after 12 seasons. It tilts up and down without locking in any position and without holding the lever so can i assume it needs to be replaced?

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

The relief valve could be stuck, or the cable could be too tight so it's engaging. I'd take it apart for inspection before buying a replacement!

@sideburns999 2 жыл бұрын

Great video! In Norway this part costs ca 400 USD so you saved me a lot of money here! My Hss 760 tilted up and down without locking in any position. After taking the damper off, I discovered that the piston/rod was loose, so I could remove it easily by hand. After cleaning and lubing and compressing according to your instructions, a little tinkering with the wire adjustment and now it works as it should. Thanks a million! 🙏🔧

@andreasflemnorman6888 5 ай бұрын

Great video. What if the damper is unable to lock? The pin seems able to travel too far in, and it does not return back out when no force is applied to it. The damper does not lock regardless of pin position though. Have not tested lubing with silicone yet (didn't have any yesterday) - do you reckon the damper can be salvaged? Thanks 🙂

@danlux4954 Жыл бұрын

Yamaha has the same tilt setup, I wish it was electric.

@appleztooranges 2 жыл бұрын

Could you please do a belt replacement on these track Honda machines? I’d love to learn

@karl2051 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thank you !! I am looking to buy a Honda snow blower. I do have gravel on my driveway leading up to the house however I have concrete walkways around the house. Would like your recommendation on getting a Track or wheel unit? Thanks again !

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Wheeled unit for anything, other than a driveway on a steep hill. Lots of people get "track envy" until they have to move these units around. They're very heavy, the parts are more costly. I would highly recommend Honda and Ariens Professional Series wheeled units!

@appleztooranges 2 жыл бұрын

Can you please do a belt replacement video on one of these track Honda snowblowers. Nobody has an entire video on how to replace belts on these machines. Thank you

@kjell-richardlvdal373 2 жыл бұрын

On my Yanmar ysr90h belt blower, there is a jigged plate to do that, much better then a expensive device on that honda

@follout7075 2 жыл бұрын

Man that 928 is clean. Doesn't look used at all.

@follout7075 2 жыл бұрын

Must be the California edition

@follout7075 2 жыл бұрын

How do you keep the track wheels so clean?

@eugenewalsh8608 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Jake, what do you do when the cylinder is compressed and the relief valve rod is down an 1/8in or so inside the cylinder and wont come out of the cylinder.

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

That's a good question, put the entire shock into a pail of warm water (not boiling) and let it sit for a bit. Then put it into a vice like I did, and keep spraying the relief rod end to get some lubricant down there. It seems yours is seized, and the rod is also seized in the engaged position. That's a tricky one for sure. Maybe use something like a small punch and small hammer, and tap the rod down after soaking and lubricating. It may shock it, just be careful, as the shock will expand under pressure once it engages

@minouchat 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Jake, surely you must have noticed, there is not a lot of video on the Honda HSS928 and I have been looking for a few years, just for something on the Gas Assist Damper, For maintenance. Once again thank you for the quality of your explanations and your videos. At the same time, I would like to know if we can change the way this snowblower is started. I have to engage the choke with full throttle control for starting (bad Honda design). I wish I could start it with the throttle control at a lower level. In other words, install a manual choke apart from the throttle control. Thanks God bless

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

It's possible, but it would require some form of modification. Afraid I can't be of much help with that one. Thanks for watching!

@minouchat 2 жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance admits that starting a machine with maximum throttle control in very cold weather is not one of Honda's best ideas

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

@@minouchat yes it's not ideal, that's for sure!

@GarryBurgess 2 жыл бұрын

My gas release assist bar contracts and expands, but it won't lock if I release the handle, so I don't know what the problem is. Sometimes it engages, if I release the handle quickly and let it snap into place, but not always.

@luschen-laschet9635 5 ай бұрын

I have the same issue...did you ever find out what was wrong?

@mannyo2909 5 ай бұрын

My tilt handle cable is loose, looking for a video explaining how to correctly tension it.

@danlux4954 Жыл бұрын

My hydrostatic Yamaha snowblower outperforms all the other snowblowers I’ve used.

@jeanhuard9525 9 ай бұрын

what can I do if the relief valve remains at the bottom? I managed to take it out and lubricated everything with the same silicone product but when I put it back in its place and press on it it goes back to the bottom and does not come out and the shock don't jam

@Enfinex 5 ай бұрын

Did you ever find a fix for this? Having the same problem, seems like the release valve is permanently open.

@appleztooranges Жыл бұрын

Are Honda snowblowers worth the price in your opinion ??

@EliminatorPerformance Жыл бұрын

Yes but the track ones are not needed unless you have a driveway with a steep incline. People without track driven snowblowers always want them until they finally get them and see how much more difficult it makes them to move around and also when replacing them there's more parts and cost involved. The engines are bullet proof though they'll last forever with proper maintenance. Only issue is the hydrostatic transmissions blow seals due to moisture getting in and then it freezes and expands and the seals pop out leaking oil from the trans.

@appleztooranges Жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance interesting. I got one 928 wheels and one 1332 tracks. I want a huge storm to see which does better. I do have a steep incline but it’s paved. I noticed wheels are faster

@tommythepooh 2 жыл бұрын

What can I Do if the relief is stuck in the Rod?

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Soak it in hot water (not boiling) in a bucket, then try lubricating it in a vice so the silicone lube or what ever you use goes down into the shock

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

Honda makes good snow blowers but they're grossly overpriced!! YOU'RE TALKING ALMOST $10,000 GET THE HECK OUT OF HERE 🤣 Repairs are so costly very complicated stuff. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE TO MOVE SNOW IT'S NOT A CAR OR BEING RACED ON A TRACK.. IT'S A SNOW BLOWER 🤣 All those features that this has you really Don't need for snow blowing. That machine is the same price as a freaking car ridiculous. For 1/3 the price You could buy Toro's track or Ariens track system that will do the exact identical thing.. oh yeah alot easier to fix, and cheaper to fix.. AND FYI TORO'S QUICK STICK WHICH IS NOT POWERED BLOWS AWAY THAT MECHANICAL SHOOT 6 DAYS A WEEK AND TWICE ON SUNDAY.. ALL THAT MONEY FOR THE HONDA IT STILL DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME TECHNOLOGY AS THE TORO BASIC MODELS THAT COST $1,300 Toro's ingenious anti-clogging system, The amazing quick stick, And let's not forget no shear pin technology for the auger. That's right You never have to worry about breaking shear pins with the Toro.. The engine shuts off if you hit something hard, or ice etc remove the problem Start it right back up It's ingenious!! I just don't get it. If you're rich and you want to dump money all the power to but it's definitely not worth the price when there are so many other products that can do the same thing.. Cheers

@EliminatorPerformance 2 жыл бұрын

Yea the engines are reliable, that's about it lol if I had to choose, I'd get an Ariens Professional Series snowblower. They beat anything on the market and are usually the go to choice of professionals.

@muzikmon2267 2 жыл бұрын

@@EliminatorPerformance Yes they are and they are a good choice. But Toro according to the tests outperforms all snowblowers believe it or not. They're just as reliable as Ariens, to have a better shoot mechanism the quick stick. They use thinner metal but it's stronger metal cuz it's a specialized metal.. they're easier to maneuver because they weigh less. The anti-clogging technology is awesome aerates the snow back into the front which makes it lighter so it goes further In most cases, and because of this there's less pressure on the belts, the engine in the gears. One reason why the Honda has so many issues with the gearbox because they don't have technology like this to take off pressure. Then of course the awesome no sheer pin technology unbelievable actually really works.. Toro's last just as long as Ariens in perform just as good if not better.. But you can't go wrong with either.. Just the Honda is notorious for a great snowblower But very expensive And they have repair problems.. difficult to fix. Just that Ariens just seems to be old school so it attracts a lot of old school dudes.. with the heavier the bigger the better stuff which is not true.. they're not very innovative. They just stick with whatever works.. That's why I love Toro they know what matters and what doesn't.. But I like your video anyways I just like watching snowblower videos.. ;)