Elizabeth Bathory - The Full Story - Innocent or Guilty?

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ObsoleteOddity

ObsoleteOddity

4 жыл бұрын

#history #weird #crime
In 1602, rumours began to circulate around the village of Trenčín, present-day Slovakia: Peasant girls looking for servant work in the Csejte Castle were vanishing. Many looked to Countess Elizabeth Bathory while seeking the truth about the mysterious disappearances.
She has been described as the most vicious female serial killer in all recorded history. Where fact ends and fiction begins in this terrifying story is now impossible to determine, some even think she was a vampire with supernatural powers, but there are also truth seekers who put forward the theory that powerful men fabricated those stories and committed the outrages on those girls, to seize her wealth.
We will look at both sides of the story in this video.
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@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
This video is sponsored by my Patreon patrons - THANK YOU! Many, many thanks to my patrons on Patreon for enabling me to keep going - bless you all! Some of the topics discussed on the 'blah blah' towards the end of video, because of the upload date, may no longer be relevant. Some later videos are more graphic in content, and will most certainly be demonetised by KZfaq; nevertheless, thanks to my loyal Patreon patrons, I will eventually post them here too despite KZfaq's advertiser friendly policy. Link to my Patreon page and other sites under the description :) Please check my community page here to keep up with my latest announcements: kzfaq.infocommunity Apologies for badly pronounced Hungarian words. lol
@agingerbeard
@agingerbeard 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so grateful to your patrons and yourself for sharing this! I've long been fascinated by her and can't wait to hear you tell the tale, time for a fresh cup!
@tamaraprentice9280
@tamaraprentice9280 4 жыл бұрын
Lol me too!
@mandizzlefoshizzle1320
@mandizzlefoshizzle1320 4 жыл бұрын
Love love love it!!
@wendyarmstrong5564
@wendyarmstrong5564 4 жыл бұрын
Hi ObsoleteOddity my name is Wendy Armstrong from Crawley West Sussex UK, thank you so much for your video just now I so enjoy your videos so much, please keep them coming I hope you are well thanks again ☕🐕🦉🌸🌞🦋🦋🦋🦋x
@crich4503
@crich4503 4 жыл бұрын
@@Flamsterette Bless your heart would have been used if she was southern.
@dianabedio5839
@dianabedio5839 4 жыл бұрын
I love how you told both possible sides of her case. Yes she was guilty of horrific crimes of treating her servants like crap but....was the rest of it made up to take over her fortune? Great way to look at it. Keep stories like these coming!!! Great job!!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so! Thank you :)
@chefbetsy7680
@chefbetsy7680 4 жыл бұрын
There have been many women who thru history have bathed in blood or apply it to there face. Thanks to American Horror story we became well aquatinted with Madam Delphine Laurie from New Orleans. I would love to see you do a video on her. I love American Horror story but they bring in many real people throughout History and use them in an obvious way to advance the plot. The show is fiction. Yet some people swear about it's accuracy!
@markoconnell2458
@markoconnell2458 4 жыл бұрын
@@chefbetsy7680 Excuse me but maybe the bathing in blood mentioned is because it is based on this story and maybe mythical
@NanaD-ve9tt
@NanaD-ve9tt 4 жыл бұрын
Chef Betsy yes I’d like to see his spin on her as well it would be great I bet!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
@@NanaD-ve9tt I have covered Delphine LaLaurie on my Patreon channel.
@francescaleone2954
@francescaleone2954 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve listened to and read about this story, but none has mentioned that she could have been innocent . Your version is by far the best, very interesting. Thank you
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Francesca - much appreciated :)
@biancaa6150
@biancaa6150 3 жыл бұрын
she was alone powerful and rich and targeted by powerful men who felt she threatened the status quo.
@randomchance7796
@randomchance7796 3 жыл бұрын
224 affidavits of people who said they witnessed it? Did she sell tickets?
@goyonman9655
@goyonman9655 3 жыл бұрын
Every single time i've read it, it's mentioned she was innocent
@hajnalkasimon4157
@hajnalkasimon4157 3 жыл бұрын
She WAS innocent ,but very wealthy .That was her downfall .According to research, Erzsébet Báthory maintained a close relationship with her nephew, Prince Gábor Báthory of Transylvania, who openly converted to the party of István Bocskai in 1605, and who was elected prince of Hungary and Transylvania on April 17, 1605. The princely relative had planned a large campaign against the Habsburgs , and this fact may have contributed to the fabrication of the accusations. In the proceedings of György Thurzó, Erzsébet Báthory may have been a victim of a political crime, because the palatines also had a toothache for the huge fortune, but even her insult against the Báthories could have motivated her. In the course of the investigation the answers were squeezed out of them with torture.
@lillycrecelius985
@lillycrecelius985 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only version of the "Blood Countess's"story I've seen that examines it from both sides. We often forget that history many times is a matter of perspective, if not outright lies . Thanks for reminding us . Blood baths would be problematic, as it tends to clot. Thanks for another great video, guy.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback - much appreciated 😊
@edp3202
@edp3202 3 жыл бұрын
Remember she was a WOMAN with the a lot of power and money and the men owed her family.
@boedayious4993
@boedayious4993 3 жыл бұрын
Definately Great video. It is impossible to figure out life and motivations of the 1600’s because our views and expectations of civilization are so different. BUT some thing happened. Thank You for this video
@edp3202
@edp3202 3 жыл бұрын
@@boedayious4993 good point. It's somewhere in the middle.
@renitalake3580
@renitalake3580 3 жыл бұрын
If she did bathe in blood, I highly doubt that the coagulation was a real concern or care.🤷🏾‍♀️
@camvin575
@camvin575 3 жыл бұрын
Its terrible as throughout history the murders have become infamous to the point their names are etched in our brains but the victims aren't and that is truly heart breaking.
@shawnhapney8784
@shawnhapney8784 2 жыл бұрын
Because the victims would rather not remember her? Yeah. But she was Dominate. So Elizabeth gets the infamous glory. And it is a warning to others: 'Watch Carefully The People You Trust Your Children With'. Especially If They Are Known Warlords.
@ashleelarsen7765
@ashleelarsen7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@shawnhapney8784 the sound effects are intense
@desmondevans5731
@desmondevans5731 2 жыл бұрын
It's really 😔
@fatnsassy99
@fatnsassy99 4 жыл бұрын
It was said she had 4 children, I would be interested in what they would've said about their mother, if anything. Great job oddie
@twillashannon6215
@twillashannon6215 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, by most accounts she was a very affectionate and involved mother especially when taken into account her status and the way most wealthy/ noble families behaved towards their children. Doesn't mean she wasn't an awful human, but apparently a devoted mother.
@MYST1KWOLF
@MYST1KWOLF 3 жыл бұрын
@@twillashannon6215 I read that BTK was a great father and took time off killing to raise his kids
@camvin575
@camvin575 3 жыл бұрын
@@MYST1KWOLF Touché.
@lucyshea2583
@lucyshea2583 3 жыл бұрын
@@MYST1KWOLF nailed it lol
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 3 жыл бұрын
@@MYST1KWOLF psychopaths find it easy to mimic emotions & pay lip service to social norms. They're organised, cunning, logical & plan what they do. Sociopaths are chaotic, impulse driven & disorganised killers.
@miriamcarmona8223
@miriamcarmona8223 4 жыл бұрын
Never ever stop theses vintage crimes. Love them,
@zarwine7080
@zarwine7080 4 жыл бұрын
I think every country has heinous vintage crimes; some of these crimes were intriguing
@chicacamionista
@chicacamionista 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@melissaa3335
@melissaa3335 3 жыл бұрын
agree with you
@gadgetjand
@gadgetjand 3 жыл бұрын
Her story has always fascinated me... highly debatable still. My conclusion is this is one of the best political propaganda cases to date. In her time she was wealthier than the King himself, in a time where women didn’t have power. Granted she probably was a harsh ruler... I highly doubt it was anything like described. Still makes for and interesting story to date. Well done Oddy!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that. Thank you :)
@bellerain381
@bellerain381 3 жыл бұрын
You should hear Karliene’s song dedicated to Elizabeth Bathory! She sings it in the Countess’ POV and the song is very accurate, like Oddy’s version, mentioning her wealth and power being a threat! She even use the Hungarian version of Elizabeth’s name!
@gadgetjand
@gadgetjand 3 жыл бұрын
@@bellerain381 I’ll have to check it out. Thanks
@bellerain381
@bellerain381 3 жыл бұрын
@@gadgetjand very highly recommended!! You will not be disappointed!!
@gadgetjand
@gadgetjand 3 жыл бұрын
@@bellerain381 wow! That was so good.... and haunting. My little black creepy heart is so happy. I’m going to explore more of their stuff. Awesome!
@karengrice2303
@karengrice2303 3 жыл бұрын
Love your stories. You are a great story teller and I love all the historical photos. You are very creative.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@marieturnage-jensen7603
@marieturnage-jensen7603 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the four children turned out with these parents? That would be an interesting investigation.
@melvalentine1962
@melvalentine1962 5 жыл бұрын
Yeh what happned to the children? I 😮
@JamiJR
@JamiJR 4 жыл бұрын
This supposedly has the answer but you have to become a member - study.com/academy/answer/what-happened-to-elizabeth-bathory-s-children.html Most other sites just mention that two died as infants but three survived. So supposedly she had 5 kids with her husband.
@jessicaquick6411
@jessicaquick6411 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamiJR Elizabeth Bathory's
@wandachristian1884
@wandachristian1884 4 жыл бұрын
I tried finding info about the lives of her children, it's incredibly hard to find info. Even with their names the info talks about EB.🤷‍♀️
@gloriamontgomery6900
@gloriamontgomery6900 4 жыл бұрын
I believe she had 3 legitimate children with Ferenc Nasdady her husband. She also had an illegitimate child in her early teens.
@rosegarza3613
@rosegarza3613 4 жыл бұрын
I know he is tired of hearing this. But, I will never be tired of hearing his most memerizing voice. 😘
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the lovely compliment :) - Thanks for your very kind feedback Rose - much appreciated :)
@Leah-lz8pv
@Leah-lz8pv 4 жыл бұрын
Its very attenboroughish .... In other words its a voice that I could listen to all day.
@suzannesmith2204
@suzannesmith2204 4 жыл бұрын
True that ✌.
@edwardsoffy-girl2166
@edwardsoffy-girl2166 4 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your Oddities a couple of days ago. Your voice and the way you tell your stories are absolutely mesmerizing. Thank you so much for all you share. I love the Vintage crime and horror.
@suzannesmith2204
@suzannesmith2204 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oddie for my Red Heart, you're so very sweet and generous towards me l appreciate that very much 🙂🤗hugs!!
@TheEldritchArchives
@TheEldritchArchives 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed by the level of work that goes into your videos Oddie! The animations and art that you include are fantastic!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
That's very kind of you, thank you for that.
@PooDotStinkPants
@PooDotStinkPants 4 жыл бұрын
The research is so impeccable, it is difficult to cast a verdict of guilt or innocence. Very well done!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your kind feedback - much appreciated :)
@tinaamariee832
@tinaamariee832 4 жыл бұрын
I’ll never understand why reaction channels react to all those stupid animated horror stories but don’t react to your vintage horror stories🙄 I’m gonna keep begging for them to review your channel tho. You deserve more subscribers for this amazing content❤️
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@devodavis6747
@devodavis6747 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity this was beyond great, thank you *so* much.
@ghostcityshelton9378
@ghostcityshelton9378 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity Think if we ALL left; #YOU TUBE ...REVIEW ODDIE'S VIDEOS FAIRLY, & RE-$ THEM ! where ever we watch channel's (and don't watch) You Tube might get the point?!!! We did it before and it seemed to work. #ODDIE'S ARMY (Or followers?) ASKES-- 😎YOU/TUBE TO RE-$ ODDIE VIDEOS Something like that? Himmm🤔
@tamaraprentice9280
@tamaraprentice9280 4 жыл бұрын
tinaamariee😘 I agree .
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 4 жыл бұрын
tinaamariee😘 I hope you are able to get that happening, it would be fun to see what some of them make of this fabulous material🖤🇨🇦
@Svvithred
@Svvithred 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely stellar work! This should definitely be considered to be THE go-to video for the full and frank story of Elisabeth Bathory!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@empressoftheuniverse1312
@empressoftheuniverse1312 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!!!!
@danaott2849
@danaott2849 4 жыл бұрын
Agree..
@lauralewis5726
@lauralewis5726 4 жыл бұрын
THE one for sure!
@susanpeters1628
@susanpeters1628 4 жыл бұрын
I discovered you’re stories today, and immediately subscribed. This is absolutely fascinating. I have watched 3 tonight, and look forward to many more.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your very kind feedback Susan, I appreciate it. :)
@iainmelville9411
@iainmelville9411 3 жыл бұрын
This story has haunted me since I first heard it back in the seventies. Your version was quite an in depth one and l appreciated a lot. Thank you for retelling. I was aware of the innocent or guilty angle, personally I think the truth lies in both - part guilty/part innocent. I guess we may never really know one way or the other.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@zoefang4563
@zoefang4563 10 ай бұрын
This story sent chills up my spine.
@Nonayabizness360
@Nonayabizness360 4 жыл бұрын
It’s funny they supposedly cared so much about “ the girls “ at the castle yet they killed them so easily in her place after the abuse. They framed her and took her land . We all know the history of the Catholic Church and sadly the things they still cover up now. RIP to the innocent slave girls.
@taniaearle4457
@taniaearle4457 3 жыл бұрын
Classic "Witch" stitch up, whole shebang for enormous wealth. Aside from those few loyal servants who were tortured to agree. Looks like everyone gained. Wonder what happened to her Daughters. Id like to see a forensic investigation into her case. I did read somewhere Castle had its own modern Medical facilities, Midwives, a go to for Abortions and banned medicines.
@pconfer6660
@pconfer6660 3 жыл бұрын
@Jody Doherty were yu triggered😂😂😂😂😂
@e.jenima7263
@e.jenima7263 3 жыл бұрын
Nonsese, Nothing but neo feminist BS! the women was a sick and twisted , who got pleaseure out of killing and torturing women. Even if she offered help to these girls a lot were dieing at a allarming rate.Her aunt was allso a natorious Satanist. Her relatives were gratestatesmen and in some cases women but they were like all blue blooded familys mass murderures who did go and torture the common folk becase they cold, and when i mean torture they did it for pleashure. In eastern europe at the time it was perfectly acceptable for Nobals to Even round up peasants for dinner partys wear they would be tortured in front of guests as entertainment! at one party bathory and her husband threw it was recorded that they covered a girl in honey and all the guests watched as she was stung to death by bees and wasps! when the locale Lutherin Minister herd this he made a complaint as the the extant they were torturing there Surfs. bathory and her husband had the man removed at once. this women was not some early feminist Idole , she was sick and twisted. But the violent times she grew up in and of course growing up in a rairified class were they could do as they liked allso had something to do with it.
@TheArcaneMaster
@TheArcaneMaster 3 жыл бұрын
@@e.jenima7263 LOL "Notorious Satanist" . Like people, especially women, weren't just called that all the time in order to persecute them. i'd like to know what historical documents or sources you have consulted in order to assert your claims.
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x 4 жыл бұрын
Oddie, you are a great artist, researcher, writer, sweet soul... we love you!
@elizabethgaspodnetich4322
@elizabethgaspodnetich4322 3 жыл бұрын
It certainly does shed new light on this story. I have heard this story many times and it always made me shudder to think that a woman could kill so many people. It makes perfect sense that she was being overthrown by others hungry for what she had power over and why they would seal all records of her trial. Not speaking her name for 100 years was a bit much though! Thank you for this video!! I am always soothed by your voice, such a pleasure to listen to. I may watch a few more of your videos today.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Elizabeth - much appreciated :)
@fatiht8863
@fatiht8863 Жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity Can I ask your sources of Ferenc's atrocities against Turkish captives that you told in this video? (Disembowelling, impaling alive, playing football with their heads, dancing with their corps)
@jp-ty1vd
@jp-ty1vd 8 ай бұрын
considering the vast history about lust for power or riches from every century in written memory from every corner of the world and every social strata and culture, concocting a false narrative and using perjury to obtain wealth and power certainly has my vote.
@jendamum
@jendamum 2 жыл бұрын
Found your channel and had to subscribe. Great content, I look forward to seeing more!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that Catherine, thank you very much 🙏
@SusanWillful
@SusanWillful 4 жыл бұрын
Favorite part is the pastor's testimony about the invisible black cats and dogs that attacked him. They were invisible AND black? Oh, really? How's that work, sir? lol Powerful wealthy women were only as safe as their family were able to make them or wanted them to be. As you pointed out, that could be used to argue both sides, which I thank you for presenting. Love how unique and creative your videos are! Knowing how stories grow, I believe it was highly exaggerated. How many aristocratic daughters could you kill before they'd complain?
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Susan - much appreciated :)
@sansserif8839
@sansserif8839 3 жыл бұрын
It was probably becayse black cats and dogs were thought to be the familiars of witches. Black cats were cosidered bad luck, if not downright evil. Many were killed. In other words, if you have invisible demon cats, they must be black. lol
@jamieyoho2310
@jamieyoho2310 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if she was innocent. Thank u for presenting both sides.
@jimmyclimer594
@jimmyclimer594 3 жыл бұрын
I was attacked by an invisible black cat last night. They are a real threat purring and weaving between your legs.😼
@SusanWillful
@SusanWillful 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyclimer594 I suspect it wasn't the first time you were traumatized in such a way by that wild purring creature so you already knew what color he is when not invisible.
@Charlotte66666
@Charlotte66666 4 жыл бұрын
I'm going to save this gem to watch when it's dark later, thank you Dear Friend.
@dukesters3600
@dukesters3600 4 жыл бұрын
Me too they're the best at night 👍
@benjaminbrogan9233
@benjaminbrogan9233 4 жыл бұрын
Me2
@MarvelousPhilly
@MarvelousPhilly 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel you on that one. Only thing is, she doesn't scare me. Just disgusted about the horrible things she's done to the poor girls. So I can watch this now and later tonight, alone in the dark in my apartment. Enjoy watching it later.
@Charlotte66666
@Charlotte66666 4 жыл бұрын
@@teresamotherearthinspired1956s because it's sickening, I think you're on the wrong channel hun.
@MarvelousPhilly
@MarvelousPhilly 4 жыл бұрын
@@teresamotherearthinspired1956s Some people enjoy learning about human history. Whether good or bad, it's still history. There's nothing wrong with that.
@renewehrung9770
@renewehrung9770 3 жыл бұрын
Great, I love the artwork you choose to go along. You have a great voice to listen, learn and be entertained. Variety is good, yes, Gothic mystery, anything spooky. Thank you so much, I love it all.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your positive feedback - thank you very much :)
@2014alfred
@2014alfred 4 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian, i have heard of the Bloody Countess, and in Transylvania she is still well known by rural folk through tales. Romanians living in Transylvania were called ''the tolerated'' basically meaning we were close to/if not slaves with little to no rights. It is known here that a lot of her victims were poor Romanian girls from Transylvania who were easily persuaded or kidnapped without anyone ever noticing. But it went to the extent where the general unrest would reach it's apex and everyone started hiding their daughters and in some small villages, almost all young girls dissappeared. I have read that she didn't want to risk going further away from her owned lands to persuade or kidnap victims because she didn't other important people rulling the adjacent lands to know what she was doing, she could've been killed, imprisoned or blackmailed and she was indeed intelligent so she started luring girls from the middle class (hungarian smiths, doctors etc) and small nobility thinking maybe that it was less risky, that is when people first started taking actions and ended with her trial and imprisonment. The blood baths are indeed false just like Vlad Tepes being Dracula. The journal with the names is probably something dramatic added later on after her death. But, there is one of her guards that is said to have befriended her and she did confess her mass killings to him, and that may still be in our historic archives. The sad part is we'll never know how many souls she tormented, could be 100 could be 1000 but she definitely was a very sick human being . As for the framing part, in that time it was way easier to assassinate somebody than to go all this way with this if it was BS
@shonaharris9328
@shonaharris9328 4 жыл бұрын
I want to believe she was mostly innocent and this was religious-political as well as influenced by the satanic witchcraft in the day. But, I agree with you that there was likely cruelty towards her servants as was also common. I think that in every story however contrived there is an element of truth in it which makes it believable. Thank you for your stories. Your storytelling is really enjoyable.
@deeg4031
@deeg4031 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard this story before, but never so beautifully told. You capture the drama and passion at the right times. I agree with you in that she may have been cruel, perhaps moreso than others, but not to the extremes told. Images were awesome. Well done, as usual. 👋
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your sweet feedback my friend - much appreciated :)
@deeg4031
@deeg4031 4 жыл бұрын
@@teresamotherearthinspired1956s by beautifully read I mean the presentation of the story. Not everybody that can read can narrate. Oddie has a very gracious way of presenting even the most horrific stories. So not only do I appreciate the story, horror or not, I appreciate the presentation of it. There's always more to the story than the story itself! 🌹
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
@@deeg4031 Hi Dee, it's just a troll, flushed down the YT s-bend now :)
@deeg4031
@deeg4031 4 жыл бұрын
Troll or not, I guess I was gonna speak my mind. Tries to be as politically correct as possible!
@DraGunnTiss
@DraGunnTiss 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, you give good commentary. I also like the old, old cases you do.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@silversmith8995
@silversmith8995 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your commentary at the end.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it - Thank you very much!
@ginasreview1030
@ginasreview1030 4 жыл бұрын
As a 26 year old woman, hearing alm the disgusting, vile, psychopathic things she did to the girls & young women. I'm sure that I wouldn't have survived at all, would've died so quick. When I heard about the last one that "stole" the pear, the way you spoke about her. My heart hurts to all these beautiful girls & young women. That beast with her clan of helpers took the life from them.
@silvertears100
@silvertears100 4 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you posting again on here I was beginning to wonder if you were ok as it's been quite a while since you posted anything on here you and your wife stay safe
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x
@lisa.user-xm7kz2tb6x 4 жыл бұрын
yes Dill, i thought same. 👍
@ghostcityshelton9378
@ghostcityshelton9378 4 жыл бұрын
I have to work up to get the title 'poorer than dirt' at times, (live on a small set income) but I try to handle money wisely and joined Oddie's Paytron 😁 It helps support a fanntastic, intelligent, very creative artist and Oddie is a dear friend to ALL of us here. Want more unbelievable fantastic videos then please really consider joining us at Payton. And if you would like to chat live at times WITH ODDIE, when he has a live stream (this Thrusday is one) read the pledges and check stuff out. Just saying😁
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 4 жыл бұрын
GhostCity Shelton you are absolutely right my dear friend. I have never regretted joining Oddie’s Patreon, although I have yet to make it to a live feed. Our Oddie is a rare gentleman and delivers nothing but the best. Now the weather has turned I have a vision of you with your trusty metal detector finding treasures from other times. Keep well, and I wish you the best of luck this detecting season.🖤🇨🇦
@gailhandschuh1138
@gailhandschuh1138 4 жыл бұрын
It seems more that Elizabeth was the victim of greedy men. If she had wealth that the crown was envious of, it isn’t impossible to think that the nobles wanted her money and property. I get very concerned when the scholars and church admit that they believe in witchcraft and the dark arts. Excellent analysis as always. Thank You BC stay safe and take care of yourself and your wife.
@Fandangtastic
@Fandangtastic 4 жыл бұрын
@@ghostcityshelton9378 When Thursday? Just wondering how you know when to join in? I'm something of a dinosaur to put it mildly.
@kristinscarbrough-birge82
@kristinscarbrough-birge82 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely adore you, Oddie! You have the best content and your voice is so soothing 🥰
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🤗
@ashleelarsen7765
@ashleelarsen7765 2 жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity 👍 thanks!
@sandradavies4841
@sandradavies4841 3 жыл бұрын
I came across your KZfaq videos and you do a great job narrating. I'm watching as many as I can. I hope you can keep up with me.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@vanessaseipelt4148
@vanessaseipelt4148 4 жыл бұрын
LOVE this one! I think that the seizures and outbursts (if they actually happened) might have been due to inbreeding as well as mental problems. Plus the fact that she was intelligent. Highly intelligent people are sometimes very close to insanity. Fact is we will never really know the real story. But, these kind of stories are so facinating! Thank you so much for another awesome feature!!!! Please keep doing stories like this one!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Vanessa - much appreciated :)
@mjrotondi5086
@mjrotondi5086 3 жыл бұрын
Also don't dismiss demonic possession.
@TheCandiceWang
@TheCandiceWang 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, severe inbreeding can result in epilepsy :( there's a theory that pharaoh Akhenaten was epileptic. I don't know the degree to which Bathory was inbred, tho.
@MayimHastings
@MayimHastings 2 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@ilsesmith9493
@ilsesmith9493 4 жыл бұрын
I love everything pertaining to crime and history. Also when you read stories.
@kathleenbrewer6343
@kathleenbrewer6343 4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear about all the different cases that you present. Keep up the great job.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@crystalhannah6872
@crystalhannah6872 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! I just found this channel today, this is really remarkable in both the delivery of content and it's audio-visual artistry! Thank you for being amazing...just wow! I will be joining the patreon
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your very kind feedback Crystal, lovely compliment - much appreciated :)
@altenahardric5190
@altenahardric5190 4 жыл бұрын
generally, there are too many other youtubers doing the generic horror from crime. you are doing great with some of the tragic stories(many nothing to do with crime) back then when i sub to your channel 2 years ago.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your positive feedback my friend - much appreciated :)
@pamelagewirtz4078
@pamelagewirtz4078 3 жыл бұрын
I'd be curious if her cousin obtained Elizabeth's land and castles.
@lupitakall4457
@lupitakall4457 3 жыл бұрын
Love all of your videos but especially the historical crime ones...thank you!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊
@angelmiller3331
@angelmiller3331 4 жыл бұрын
I will always think she was guilty. Like the Tsavo lions, we'll never know how many victims she had. To get her fortune, her relatives could just as easily have had her poisoned or outright murdered with the amount of staff coming(but never going). There are exaggerations, of course, like the iron maiden-there is really no documented proof of them at that time. And she didn't need supernatural powers, she had lands and titles.
@courtneybrown9069
@courtneybrown9069 3 жыл бұрын
i do think so too sir very much insanity that's whithin her blood
@annehayden8455
@annehayden8455 4 жыл бұрын
I can understand her satanic attributes because of her family background which must have had a big impact on her future life but as you know the truth is nearly always elaborated upon we will never know exactly what happend but as its been known there is never smoke without fire i enjoy your videos very much I’m pleased you are going to introduce a variety of storys i must add you have a lovely voice at the end of the video
@soupsgord
@soupsgord 4 жыл бұрын
Anne Hayden could you use some punctuation so your comment makes more sense? Thank you.
@MsZoedog66
@MsZoedog66 4 жыл бұрын
There is a principle in law - innocent til proven guilty. As salacious as it would be to believe that this all happened, I'd take it with a very large grain of salt. Record keeping from that part of the world wasn't too good or accurate.
@tracycraft2971
@tracycraft2971 4 жыл бұрын
So happy to be a part of your patron group! So adore your work!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Thank you Tracy!
@peaceindarkness.darknessis3494
@peaceindarkness.darknessis3494 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work! You put a lot in these vids. Thank you
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@LoveAuntieJan
@LoveAuntieJan 4 жыл бұрын
Oddie, I’ve missed you so very much 🤗...please, don’t forget your old friends/family here on KZfaq!! My love to Oddette, as well!! Blessings 🙏❤️😊
@empressoftheuniverse1312
@empressoftheuniverse1312 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it has taught me patience. LoL I think it also helps me to appreciate his work more.😁
@LoveAuntieJan
@LoveAuntieJan 4 жыл бұрын
Empress of the Universe13 I wish he’d do a Audible book bc of his buttery smooth, soothing, yet haunting voice...but at the same time I love the illustrations, as well! Love putting on an old audio of his, as it sends me to a peaceful sleep! I’m so glad I’m not the only one who gets so much from our Life’s Guardian narrator! ❤️😇🙏
@agingerbeard
@agingerbeard 4 жыл бұрын
Would love more Lovecraft or other authors, I swear you could do audiobooks for a living! Quite honestly I will watch anything you put out your delivery makes anything interesting! 🤗 for you and Odette hope you both are well!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 4 жыл бұрын
Rusty MacNicol If he did audio books for a living he wouldn’t have time to make these amazing videos for us...shhhhh.🖤🇨🇦
@empressoftheuniverse1312
@empressoftheuniverse1312 4 жыл бұрын
Good point Tamarra James!!!
@capet5593
@capet5593 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, so interesting and informative to learn from. Keep up the great and excellent work, just fantastic!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Another_taco.Yes_please
@Another_taco.Yes_please 3 жыл бұрын
Well done! Thank you for debunking some of the reports as they were so horrendous. I can certainly see something like this happening to steal back in the day, especially against a woman when her husband had died. Cruel times they were.
@herbertorendorff6323
@herbertorendorff6323 4 жыл бұрын
Bathory was definitely and undeniably guilty. Let's just say she made 2 huge mistakes 1. Never leave any witnesses 2. Never leave any evidence of the crime.
@mandizzlefoshizzle1320
@mandizzlefoshizzle1320 4 жыл бұрын
Whelp, I WAS going to get to bed after an all-nighter, buuuuut I've been WAITING FOR THIS!! Love you Oddie
@theresajschuer6279
@theresajschuer6279 4 жыл бұрын
I love this stores you present to us. I enjoy these stories.I also appreciate the photos and other pictures and special effects ,that you include in each story. Thank you for all the hard work and dedication you put into each video!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Theresa, much appreciated :)
@jackyflowers3493
@jackyflowers3493 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Oddie. I have enjoyed all your posts. Also, love the artwork. Happy holidays to you, and yours. ♡
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@christinetheresa7416
@christinetheresa7416 4 жыл бұрын
Whether or not she did everything she was accused of who knows? But, there is no doubt she was an evil, abusive, arrogant, mistress, like others of her kind. The rich still get away with such evil, but have to be far more secretive about it. PS You do an absolutely wonderful job of combining images with the story. You keep it interesting and move at a perfect pace. Very enjoyable narration. Much thanks for the hard work you put into the videos.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Christine - much appreciated :)
@dawulpertingerofstarland5257
@dawulpertingerofstarland5257 4 жыл бұрын
This was really well presented! Thank you for another upload!
@Ratnoseterry
@Ratnoseterry 4 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome, this is the perfect time to be uncovering situations in the past that sometimes feel a little to close to home these days. You give people an excellent place to learn
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your very kind feedback, I appreciate it. :)
@williamhelm6632
@williamhelm6632 3 жыл бұрын
MAN, you're doing wonderful, please don't stop and you're getting progressively better as you go.🎩📚🙌👍👌
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! 😊
@chrishumphries5018
@chrishumphries5018 4 жыл бұрын
I just found this channel and I can’t stop watching. Thank you for all your hard work and research. I’ve been searching for a channel like this for a while! Can’t wait to see more!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your very kind feedback Chris - much appreciated :)
@ginasreview1030
@ginasreview1030 4 жыл бұрын
How can they go to sleep knowing what they've been doing. HEARING them scream, yell, cry & continue....disgusting. Do we know who yhe girls/young women were? 650 lives taken in the most grotesque way. I FELT their pain, obviously never as them but...so digusting & vile. As a 26 year old woman & virgin too, my heart goes out to the victims. Everything that they could've done w/ their lives. 😭😭😭
@chrisshipes1153
@chrisshipes1153 3 жыл бұрын
@Aytaestrella 😂 I was gonna comment "26 and virgin woman? Holla at me" but then you pointed out a good.. point 😅 but nah that's not really a shameful thing, that's a self discipline hard to come across these days in serious
@janetlieb2507
@janetlieb2507 3 жыл бұрын
@Aytaestrella some women are virtuous. Not losers like you say!
@noddygirl
@noddygirl 4 жыл бұрын
Great content!! I've always been very fascinated by Elizabeth Bathory.
@lucyndariley2159
@lucyndariley2159 4 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. The historical crimes, the weird things, I love all of it.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Lucynda, I appreciate it :)
@XYB56
@XYB56 4 жыл бұрын
My Lockdown binge right up my alley #ObseleteOddity. Thank you! Started in March 2020, & still going👍🏻 Love your voice, narrating and visuals🤞🏻
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@paulbranch5481
@paulbranch5481 4 жыл бұрын
I find that everything you post is so fascinating and fun! Thank you
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@rhondasmith3042
@rhondasmith3042 3 жыл бұрын
I love the special effects in your videos. Very very well done! Thank you for your work.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@katiedunson5400
@katiedunson5400 4 жыл бұрын
As always, an awesome story told from both sides of the aisle. I am inclined to believe she is guilty; however, I personally have a bias of law enforcement from working with them and am aware of this! Horror history is awesome & I would love to see some of your tape recordings of beyond the grave as well!! Very interesting. Thank you!
@passionforlust
@passionforlust 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion, I would think most of the story if not all was a created effort by all those interested in her lands and money.Yet who knows for sure and if indeed true-YIKES! Stay safe and thanks for uploading this little gift for all to enjoy-Cheers!
@jkelley9335
@jkelley9335 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best video on this story by far!!lots of knowledge and research and a perfect voice to narrate
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that. Thank you :)
@jerimey3500
@jerimey3500 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, please keep them coming. I appreciate the work you're doing here.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@cannett8966
@cannett8966 4 жыл бұрын
Old friend, I found this to be one of the best documentaries I have seen on the subject. The information on her early life and court records were very enlightening. Your friend Cee from the little haunted cottage in ireland 💚💚💚🍀🍀🍀😷
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated :)
@bloyal1513
@bloyal1513 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear stories about Ireland. Please!
@nadiaj8002
@nadiaj8002 4 жыл бұрын
Great presentation as usual!!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@deborahmessi9268
@deborahmessi9268 3 жыл бұрын
Your voice is amazing...keep the narration! Also I liked the whispering in the background it made it sound spooky
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Deborah, much appreciated :)
@ladymiaeriksson5809
@ladymiaeriksson5809 4 жыл бұрын
Im so happy that you did this video. Ive been fascinated with the stories of Lady Bathory for some time. You did a wonderfull job at telling the story from more then one side.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks Mia :)
@rosemariharrison1393
@rosemariharrison1393 4 жыл бұрын
I love the stories and your storytelling. I introduced your channel to my therapist. Lol. She asked what I do during the quarantine and I said, I binge watch the Obsolete channel. The Therapist needs a Therapeutic out too! 😃❤️❤️
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 😀 Love it!
@WifeOfDJSteveHouston
@WifeOfDJSteveHouston 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best story Obs.Odd you have done! Great history, information and narrative plus research. Great job!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I really appreciate that. Thank you :)
@groovekingmuzz2699
@groovekingmuzz2699 2 жыл бұрын
Yes these videos are great!!Keep them coming and do not be afraid to get into more of the macabre side of things..
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying them, thanks for your feedback 🙏
@nancyM1313
@nancyM1313 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Oddie and your patreons for sharing this video with us.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you too!
@priscillapeterson3508
@priscillapeterson3508 2 жыл бұрын
Great video showing both sides - enjoyed it immensely!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@debrawingo8060
@debrawingo8060 3 жыл бұрын
I love the content you provide! Thanks so much!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reaching out with your kind feedback 😊
@debbieschultz9768
@debbieschultz9768 4 жыл бұрын
I myself, am fascinated of these things going on so many centuries ago. She certainly did not appear to be innocent, but maybe things were exaggerated to a certain point. Very well done.
@aubreyshelton6331
@aubreyshelton6331 4 жыл бұрын
OMG!! Finally an upload!! Can't wait to belong to patreon!!Ty!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@angelamontemayor1961
@angelamontemayor1961 4 жыл бұрын
Love your professional narration and knowledge keep making these videos
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@nemerri03
@nemerri03 4 жыл бұрын
Best yet! Thank you for the in depth research. Very thought provoking.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback, I appreciate it :)
@lolovixen2990
@lolovixen2990 2 жыл бұрын
Video was great. Love your voice and the content.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that.
@Judykag
@Judykag Жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and been binging. I love that this story was looked at all the way around. Not laser focused on her but examines other forces around her.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity Жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊
@sophiahousen3973
@sophiahousen3973 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy listening to your candor at the end of the vlogs.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@pimenel
@pimenel 2 жыл бұрын
Im not subscribed to your patreon but I will say I have never seen a Bathory doc with a two sided tale. I came for the details but you went further with the intrigue aspect that made this more in depth which I wasn't expecting. Thank you so much for your full attention to this story.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reaching out with your positive feedback, I appreciate it. Yes nearly all the other creators just follow the well trodden path, and copy each other - I try to research all possible details.
@pagerhoads1531
@pagerhoads1531 10 ай бұрын
New subscriber I like whatever you want to do because nobody else will present these stories the way you do, keep up the good work 👏
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 10 ай бұрын
Welcome aboard and thank you so much for reaching out with your positive feedback - very glad you’re enjoying my content 😊
@brendamagallanes7621
@brendamagallanes7621 3 жыл бұрын
I love your content. I think you're on the right track. Keep on keeping on
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@debbiebarrow7557
@debbiebarrow7557 3 жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity Excellent videos with brilliant voiceover
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
​@@debbiebarrow7557 Thank you :)
@starsaffire
@starsaffire 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! This was more in depth then what I've read about Elizabeth Bathory. Your voice is very soothing and the visuals flow so smooth painting pictures of your narration. Sad story, but realistic with religious and territory aspect.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you enjoyed the presentation - very much appreciated 😊
@laurawilliams5357
@laurawilliams5357 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing history and both sides too😍 your great telling it and keeping facts in place.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback Laura - much appreciated :)
@laurawilliams5357
@laurawilliams5357 4 жыл бұрын
@@ObsoleteOddity your welcome ☺️
@darkskinneddamsel8203
@darkskinneddamsel8203 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Oddie, for once again flipping a story that I THOUGHT I knew so well. Still, tragic by degrees on both sides f the coin
@hillbillyhippieweirdo4285
@hillbillyhippieweirdo4285 4 жыл бұрын
I love the way you present history. Thank you very much for what you do. I love the obscure things you find that I might never have heard of otherwise. Keep up the good work.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@edwardsmith9890
@edwardsmith9890 3 жыл бұрын
i liked it. Thanks for making these videos and the time that you made and research for making these. I am looking forward to seeing more. These are good educational videos. Thank you.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for your very kind feedback my friend.
@wordsorceress34
@wordsorceress34 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely well done video. This is an amazing channel.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@shadowdawnl6930
@shadowdawnl6930 4 жыл бұрын
Still loving all your content after all this time. I hope to hear a great many more stories from your beautifully smooth voice and perfect inflections. All my best Oddie and your and yours are staying healthy and happy
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very kind feedback and well wishes my friend - much appreciated :)
@melenahoward
@melenahoward 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever been hypnotized? Mesmerized and captivated? This is what listening to your stories does for me. I’m almost innocence in a hypnotic trance that and snares me until the very end. Thank you for the amazing content as I always enjoy everything you post.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for reaching out with your lovely message Melena. Such wonderful feedback makes the time and effort well worthwhile. Bless you for that Best regards Oddie
@melenahoward
@melenahoward 4 жыл бұрын
ObsoleteOddity it’s the least I can do. You put a lot of time and effort into this and I know I am not the only one who looks foreword to your next treasure.
@zacksimon996
@zacksimon996 3 жыл бұрын
YOUVE NAILED IT. KEEP IT UP .ASSUMING WE LIKE THIS IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT . CHEERS!!!
@dlane4088
@dlane4088 4 жыл бұрын
You have the Greatest voice!😊🖤 I subscribed. What interesting stories! I Love history. It is great to hear all versions of it, and Amazing to see how it changes over time.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! Thanks for your very kind feedback, I appreciate it :)
@sauntersway3980
@sauntersway3980 4 жыл бұрын
This story is mind blowing! I have no idea at all how to judge in this matter. It would be interesting to have people to answer the questions, that would be asked in a court of law. Story was stimulating I'm going to watch it again
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 4 жыл бұрын
Saunter Sway Much like the trial of Ann Boleyn for Witchcraft, she was not given opportunity to make her defence or answer to the charges. To be honest...none of them gave much thought to the well being of peasants unless they could serve as a means to getting rid of an inconvenient woman and garnering her lands and holdings.🖤🇨🇦
@tamarrajames3590
@tamarrajames3590 4 жыл бұрын
Louise Gross it is a time weathered and often told tale of deceit...brought out and dusted off for each possible use...damn the evidence! Tell the big lie convincingly enough, often enough and evidence is no longer needed.🖤🇨🇦
@dotypixie
@dotypixie 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody can give a clear judgement. Even historians who studied the case disagree. Some historical evidence exist, but it is too little to be 100 % certain, whether she really was guilty or she was just a victim of a plot and consequently the rumours.
@MissHellithRaiser
@MissHellithRaiser 3 жыл бұрын
This was awesome 👏🏼 I’ve never heard this other side, so interesting 🤔 I don’t know what to think now!!
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Rockieswoobie
@Rockieswoobie 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for presenting both sides.
@Rockieswoobie
@Rockieswoobie 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say there’s too much chance that the evidence I not Lear but could be here say. I don’t know that I can judge her guilt or innocence without more accurate evidence. I wasn’t there and crime evidence was and trials horrendous at the time.
@ObsoleteOddity
@ObsoleteOddity 2 жыл бұрын
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