I like that you included that the shape CAN change when one looses or gains weight! I think it's very true and in the kibbe system it causes confusion.

You should patent this system because it makes perfect sense. It reminds me of the way David Zyla uses the natural colours that show up in our skin/eyes/hair to find our most flattering colours. It makes sense that we'd look to the lines of our bodies to find the perfect shapes! There's a book by Nancy Nix-Rice called Looking good everyday that touches a bit on this concept of matching body lines in our clothing, but with your attention to detail and creative imagination, you could flesh out the 27 possible combinations with tips on best items to dress them. This is an exciting concept and has so much potential. Great job!👍

Girl, you have cracked the system! This is, at least for me, the most useful body typing system I have ever encountered! Incredible! Patent it! I am mind blown right now 🤯

Oh I am the 'wide, long, round' woman who is never sure if I am soft dramatic or flamboyant natural 😂. Love this, thankyou ❤

I wish a system would mention side-view of body shapes as well… some people have a lot of roundness that isn’t visible from a perfectly straight straight angle in front of them

Wow Ellie, this is genuinely so helpful! I am that 5"8, curvy girl who has spent more time than I would like to admit agonising about whether I am Soft Dramatic or Flamboyant Natural. I feel so seen! Reframing my body type as Wide, Long and Curvy takes away all of the confusion - straightforward, simple and easy to implement. Thank you!

I'm such a big fan of women like you coming up with practical, mathematical systems that we can use when we get sick of the illusive, breaks-his-own-rues, avoids-fat-women, male-gaze one.

Please make combinations with medium, I love your concept it seems to make a lot of sense, so far I figured out I may be narrow, medium and rounded.

This is much simpler than the Kibbe body types. I am definitely short and round, but I have some parts of me that are wide and others narrow. I realise now why I look my best when I mix up both wide and narrow lines, especially when adding accessories and jewellery.

This is actually the best body typing system I have come across, you must have had a flash of genius! I don’t fit any of the Kibbe body types and actively dislike that system. I knew immediately that I am short, narrow and curvy after years of trying wide silhouettes, chunky jewellery etc and always discarding them. It’s incredibly easy to remember and the bonus is there is still plenty of room to experiment with colours and styles within the general guidelines 🎉😊

I can see this system working for men too! Especially when deciding the cut of shirts & jeans 🙂 Probably even suit!

This is so much simpler, more user-friendly, and more inclusive than Kibbe! I love it! Nicely done, Ellie Jean!

You're definitely onto something with this conception. When I learned about Kibbe, I went to stores, tried on a lot of random stuff, took pictures, then compared those pictures until I found the things that consistently worked or didn't work. It doesn't seem to mesh with any type from Kibbe's system. I need structured/tailored pieces, closely fitted, with stiffer fabric. That sounds like a dramatic, but I'm short and definitely have petite. I also seem to have some vertical. That would indicate FG, but prints and contrasting an oversized top versus bottom (or vis versa) does not look good on me, which is kind of the whole point of FG dressing. But dramatic and DC lines are too long for me (I start to resemble one of those inflatable floppy balloon stick figures and/or I look like a kid playing dress up in grown up clothes) and color blocking works well on me. I've been thinking of myself more as a petite dramatic (like some other FG women in the same boat). My one criticism I'd have with your conception is that I think my issue is that my petite comes from my top half and my slight vertical comes from my bottom half. Adult hats, collars, lapels, and sleeve lengths are too big for me and generate that kid in grown up clothes look. On the other hand, I have a lot elongation in my rise, so I need a rise of 11" for jeans to hit me at my belly button (mid-rise). I'm 5' 3.5". That's... extreme. At the same time, my hips are so straight (upper and lower hip are the same measurement), so that also generates the teenagery/childish look to my frame, especially when paired with shorter arms. I look great in shorter shorts, but cropped jeans or trousers are not great on me. I've been looking at my FG contrast as cropped up top (short) paired with longer lengths below (long). As someone with Mountain - Mushroom - Stone roots, one of my most casual and relaxed looks is a cropped sleeveless stiff/thick t-shirt (short) paired with a thick pencil skirt (with a bit of stretch) that hits me around knee length (long) and narrow tennis shoes (like vans or adidas sambas). I've also found shirt dresses that are above the knee make my torso look very wide and my arms and legs look stick-like. But if I go for a maxi length shirt dress (long) and the waist and sleeve length hits me properly (short), gravity pulls down the fabric to fit me narrowly. So I'm cropped at the top half and have length in the lower half. It's just something I'm finding that consistently solves problems because it's just a function my how my frame is put together. Things look better when I mirror short up top and long below and narrow all over in my outfits. I'm not sure how your system accounts for needing both, short and long, in different parts of your silhouette. It's something to think about because I think a lot of shorter women struggle with this, and I don't think it's as simple as "choose one". Choosing one would not work for me. I need to honor both.

I really like how this lets you see the overall picture but also identify areas that might be an exception, for example someone might mostly be short but have a long torso they need to account for. Or be mostly narrow but have width in the shoulders that they might want to accommodate with their necklines. I feel very confused about what I am (other than round) but I think that’s mostly because of residual confusion caused by other systems and the difficulties of viewing myself objectively

I reached this same conclusion six months ago when I couldn't work out SN or SG! I realised I could take from each as long as my words were "short, wide, wobbly"

The technique of taking a photo and breaking up the body helped SO much. The way I perceived myself was wide, long, round - after taking a photo and outlining/circling, I turned out to be narrow/long/straight. Huge surprise. It looks like I'm a 5'8" Kibbe Dramatic with some roundness in the hips and a smallish waist, but straight and narrow everywhere else. My first clue should have been the fact that I dress like a Dramatic (with some flowy fabric here and there, but in classic Dramatic cuts), and get lots of compliments on it. This system you've come up with accounts for the natural variation in every body, and provides really good tips for accenting those features. Seriously. Thank you.

Kinda don’t understand the length column for some of the body parts. Can you explain how length would correspond to the hips, chest, and shoulders?

I wish you would also talk about what to do of you are medium in these categories

Hi Ellie-Jean! I'm Kibbe soft dramatic and have found focusing on lines much more helpful than focusing on his archetype recommendations (dislike "diva"), so I think the main concept of the matrix does it job well, especially for those that struggle to find their place in Kibbe types. In your matrix I think I am narrow, long and round, which works. However I find that both narrow and wide necklines and pants can suit me (wide pants but not skirts, boat necklines as well as V necks, wide sleeves definitely, etc.). I also need bigger accessories, especially rings (no dainty ones for me despite being narrow, since I am "large"). Although it's easier to find the type in the matrix, there's more confusion in implementation in my experience, than from Kibbe that has more specific recommendation like V necks and boatneck, but not crewnecks. Now, this could be fixed if I say I'm actually not narrow but medium in the matrix. Or if I say that certain wide elements fit me because I am round and long, despite being narrow. Or the matrix could be further improved by more nuance in the implementation part, esp. if you are in some ways bigger (like length) and in some ways smaller (like width). Just a limitation I wanted to share from one of the types, that you could think about :) all the best!

ELLIE JEAN GURL ! Youre killin it out here. Leaving the style world way better than when you found it. I will buy your book one day!!!

This seems really interesting ! I’ll be honest, when you first announced that you’d been working on your own body typing system & mentioned concepts like width, I was concerned about the potential for it to seem somewhat .. plagiarised ? But hearing you talk about it now I don’t think that’ll be an issue. I appreciate you recognising the value in Kibbe while offering a different approach - not to replace it, but to complement it. It seems you’ve taken care to go about it respectfully & not purely motivated by financial gain (as evidenced also by your style scholars pricing & your clear genuine enthusiasm for fashion & helping others). It’s very refreshing 💜

I love this. I’m SG for sure but I very often find myself gravitating towards TR recs, so framing it as just “narrow, short, round” gives so much room to play!!

What if I have contrasting features in the same category? For me, I have width in my shoulders and chest, but my limbs are all narrow? My hands and feet are medium. My hips are medium. Am I medium in the width category? I don’t feel medium. I feel conflicted 😂

So excited to try this out! Seems so much more straightforward and customisable compared to other systems.

This is the video I've been waiting for! And I'm happy it's coming from a source that's reasonable and non-judgmental like you 💕

As a flamboyant natural with curves and huge hips who has been struggling on how to both compliment my shoulder and hips without looking frumpy- this has changed my life lol

Wide medium and round here, always felt between soft natural and soft classic, this is so helpful. Love that you admit bodies change as well, much more realistic & approachable

Ellie.. I love this! It's so much more straightforward! In Kibbe, I'm lost between SN, SG, SC.. so mix of yin/yang basically. With your system I'm realizing my body is very narrow and rounded but with possible/ probable width in my upper back shoulders. This is why I'm loving this system because for people like me (and a lot of people) we don't fit neatly into one type. Can't wait to see more about this!

this breakdown helped me understand sooo much clearer than other videos/people. there is just so much on the internet about these things ans a lot of it can be wrong or misleading. this is a wonderful video and i especially appreciate the comment about weight gain near the end, i found it very comforting ❤

I've been anxiously awaiting this video, I really love this! Thank you so much for putting together this video and I look forward to seeing more examples and content based on this system!

I saw your stories when you came up with this and I love that you've got it nailed down! This is so exciting. I love it.

You’re incredibly talented at what you do. You have an eye for fashion like I’ve never seen before :)

This is really brilliant. Thank you for sharing your gift! I’m a soft gamine and Kibbe has been useful for me. In the Body Matrix System I’m narrow long round. It’s new for me to think of myself as long, I’m just 5’4” but as I look at my different parts they do look elongated. It’ll be interesting to bring this is my style. Maybe I am more etheric than I noticed before. Love how you get us thinking for ourselves and teach us how to SEE and FEEL. We used to think someone had a “sense of style” or they didn’t but you are teaching us that it’s an intuitive sense that can be developed. I just love what you’re doing and you’re really helping me understand what style even means. Thank you!

This is just BRILLIANT! I was waiting for someone to create such a clear, practical and inclusive systems. ❤

Wow, Ellie, I reckon this is an upgrade from the fashion masters (Kibbie and Kitchener), like the apprentice has become the máster.I

You know what. I love this. Need to digest for some time. I figured out something while making my body matrix. I thought why doesn't it suit to my whole body? - I got my body type short, but short skirts and shorts look bad on me. But then cropped and boxy tops look very good on me! - Also I got my body type narrow, but my hips and legs are nothing but narrow. Again my upper body and hands are narrow! So then I understood that my upper and lower body needs to have their own matrixes! I think it makes sense. My upper body is narrow, short, medium while my lower body is wide, medium, round. What a wicked thing! 😁❤️

This makes a lot of sense! I couldn’t really explain why I disliked long cardigans on me, but now I know it has to do with my short lines!

OH GOD !! I loved kibbe's model but I thought it could be represented differently and your matrix is exactly about that ! So helpful !

My body matrix would be wide, medium length, round (soft natural kibbe, height 167 cm/5"5) 😊🌼 I love how simple and straightforward your system is!

this helped me so much to type me in the kibbe system! i’m a “wide, medium, straight” with long limbs and hands and a shorter torso (i’m 5’2), and i also have a boxy appearance with some curve to it (like a small waist and wide but straighter hips). describing the features by themselves and then looking at the whole frame made me figure out I’m a flamboyant gamine. thanks ellie!

Something I’d like to add about width because it’s something that took me a long time to understand: I’m fairly petite by most people’s standards (but not petite in Kibbe’s system) so outside of these style systems, no one would look at me and describe me as wide. However, when I go shopping for clothes, I have to look for open necklines and forgiving fabrics or I need to size up in tops because I have wide shoulders for someone who wears my clothing size. Sometimes you have to ignore the word’s typical meaning and think of it in terms of how clothing fits you.

This is brilliant!!! You made it so easy to self analyze your body. I'd love to see videos or pintrest boards with examples for all the combinations in the body matrix.

Amazing system. I'm taking the quiz now! I love how you simplify and analyse things, from the style roots (I'm mountain, sun, mushroom) , you've got a great brain!

I love this body matrix system. I hope you make more videos on this topic. 😊❤

WOW! I have been so confused by kibbe, and this makes so much more sense. I just did the quiz and checked out your Pinterest board - sure enough medium, long, & straight contains exactly the kind of outfits I gravitate towards. I no longer feel like I’m going crazy!

Love it! I'm waiting for the variations for short frames 🤩

Nice!!! I ‘m wide-short-straight and you are spot on with what I think look nice on me !

This is so good and so simple! Thank youuu

I love the streamlined matrix! I’m 5’10 and always had a defined waist and wider hips even as an athlete but I’m heavier than I used to be and struggled with kibble since my legs can sometimes look shorter than my torso, love the inclusion of simple details!!

Speaking as a 5'7.5" lady who's clung onto soft natural, I think this system is so simple and easy to get! I love your application

I’m only at 3:59 and this makes so much more sense! I have a hard time to judge met overall shape, and breaking it down helps a lot.

This is very helpful because I think I’m wide long and round and people always used to say not to wear off the shoulder tops or wide trousers because of my broad shoulders and fatter body but I actually think it’s more harmonious that way!

This was so helpful! I had the exact issue you described -- I am very tall but definitely have width but are a bit more curvy than most pictures I see of flamboyant naturals, but definitely not as curvy as the soft dramatics I see. You are a genius and I love your content

Great categorization, easy to follow and very useful

There was another KZfaqr who put forth a similar theory to use, if people were confused using body typing systems. I tried tracking down the video, but all I have are some screen shots of her recommendations on a Pinterest board. She had Short vs. Tall, Narrow vs. Wide (but she just used shoulders to determine this), and Curve dominate (Round) vs. Frame dominate (Straight). I've been using Short, Narrow, Curve (Round) to pick out clothing items for a while, and have improved my style so much! I'm so happy you are bringing this to the mainstream! :) I love using your style root system to further personalize my style (I gravitate towards a combination of flower, earth, and mushroom). If I am missing one of the style roots in my outfit, it feels like something is missing. The same goes for the silhouette system. If I don't follow it in my outfits, something feels a bit off. I admit, it does take some playing around with it to get it right. Usually, I can have pieces which don't follow all the rules, if the rest of the outfit follows most of them. That way, I can shop my existing wardrobe to create different looks which follow most of the rules, without completely replacing my wardrobe.

Wow, I feel so seen by this video! I was just talking last night about how I don't really fit into the Kibbe system because I have unmistakable width and vertical but also an obvious hourglass curve that persists regardless of weight gain or loss, meaning that I probably fit nicely into the first "wide, long, round" category you described. The "loose, straight, flowing" lines typically recommended for flamboyant naturals don't work on me at all. The wide necklines and chunky jewelry are must-haves, but I suffer massively without waist emphasis and consider it essential for a good look. I have found A-line skirts and bootcut trousers to be the most flattering cuts on the bottom half and do much better with open, angular necklines (cowl necks, boat necks, square, sweetheart, V-neck, etc.). Not only do I look awful in crewneck, mock turtleneck, and turtleneck styles, but they are never cut with sufficient width to fit my shoulders anyway. Buying long sleeves with long-enough sleeves is a perpetual struggle. Really looking forward to you exploring this concept further in the future! Thanks for thinking of us tall, curvy girls with broad shoulders!

A few of them are hard to understand. What would short/long shoulders, bust (would that be the torso?) and hips look like? Also, I have the typical gamine feature of soft upper arms/thighs and sharp (straight, I guess?) lower arms/wrists and calves/ankles. Would arms and legs be considered medium then? They really aren’t…

Wide, Short, and Straight (LOL)! I do have to be careful about going too cropped with tops and pants, because they can accentuate my boxy shape (with a full bosom). I can end up looking like a barrel instead of a rectangle body. But, this is overall good advice when searching for clothing shapes that will actually fit my body without having to do extensive alterations. Also softer fabrics that drape and shape to my body in straighter silhouettes (reducing width instead of adding to it) along with chunkier jewelry and geometric patterns really do work for me. Great job!

I'm a 5'2 Romantic, and look good in sleeves and cuffs that go in at the wrists and ankles, but I got a lot of wide answers 🤔😅. I also like elongating my lines to feel more elegant. Guess I'm just difficult 😂

Excellent, Excellent video. This is so much more accessible than Kibbe and especially helpful for people in between body types. Ellie Jean, you are about to become the 21st century's "Kibbe". Well done🎉

Best video on this out there!

I can’t wait till you put more out on the topic because… for one, I Love graphs and i want to know what else you have to say on mine.. narrow, long, straight.

Hmm 🤔 I think you are onto something here. You might just have cracked the system. That was ridiculously easy and helpful well done

Great job! Brilliant system

I LOVE your hair in this video!

Man I am overwhelmed

This is brilliant!!

Ellie.... this is the answer .... to all! Wow!!

This is so helpful! I have wide shoulders but also double curve, I have been going with a romantic body type but hope this can guide who I can honor the width in my frame!

This is brilliant! I’m so happy a woman is reclaiming this work!! Since not included, I’m assuming that torso to limb proportion doesn’t matter, or bust to waist to hips?

I filled this out but I don’t think it works for gamines. My arms and legs are literally short versus long at different parts. (I am short from shoulder to elbow, long from elbow to fingertip - so I went with medium) We have an insane mix of opposites - short and long, round and straight, wide and narrow lol. I ended up with medium, medium, straight but I have everything scattered in the matrix

I did this with a line drawing and zoomed wayyyy out to see the lines only vs my body and... it was so helpful! 😆😊

Thank you! This is perfect for me, kibble never really worked for me. This I can work with 😁

While I love your approach and your system I would say there is an argument that you wouldn't always want to mimic your features. For instance, I have short legs and a long torso. I wear outfits that counter these features to elongate me, not to mimic them. Love the scientific approach to clothing!

More of this please!!

I love your channel ellie😘 keep going😘🤗

Love this concept, but I've always struggled with width categorisation, I have narrow shoulders & torso, hands & feet, but wide hips and limbs, and it's hard to tell what comes across as more dominant. What would you put more emphasis on?

Omg innovator 🙌🏻🙌🏻💕

Glad to be one of the examples BUT what does length in shoulders mean? Some of these aren’t making sense as i’d never think to describe certain things as short or long or round or straight? Hope im making sense!

This was very helpful. I’m wide, long and round and I I agreed with everything in your example exempt for two things. I don’t like the harsh rounded necklines, probably because my chest is already round and large. BUT I love those cottage style dresses that round the chest and have soft square shape. So it still makes sense!! The other thing was large accessories. But that might just be a preference as I don’t like them on anyone 😂. This was a great video. Thank you!!

I think I'm medium - short - medium 🤔 and with this video I got a general idea what that means for my silhouette, but I'm looking forward to more videos with examples for your Body Matrix system and what medium means 🥰

I love this matrix so much, thank you!! Been obsessed with your videos lately 💖 I’m medium-medium-medium 😆 Can you share or recommend what to wear for my type?? ❤❤

How does this work for mismatched/gamine people?

I'm pretty sure I'm a wide medium round. Love this system!

Question then - how do we go about the Mediums? I am Narrow, Short and then Medium for Round/Sharp. Do you go rounder on body areas that are rounder and then sharper/medium on body areas that are more sharp/medium?

And now I'm a medium long medium! Can't wait to find out what suits me.

I’m wide-ish, short and round. I consider myself a romantic in kibbe. My shoulders are very rounded and medium size but closed neck are not a good for me. My bust looks very constricted and it creates a heaviness vs an open neckline. Thanks Ellie! I think this is great for people who feel in between kibbe types. It takes away the headache of trying to figure your overall “vibe” and more focus on finding clothes that actually fit.

I really like the simple logic behind this, but I have 3 problems with the application. First would be.. some parts are very unintuitive to put on this chart (how can feet be round? How can shoulders be long? xD). Second would be, everything seems to count equal? But I just don't see how your hand lenght can/should count the same as your actual height for example - I have quite long hands for my own proportions, they won't suddenly make long lines ok on my 5'1 body with size 10 years old inseam.. Third, it doesn't seem to account for diametrically opposite answers. I would have narrow shoulders wide bust wide hips narrow legs wide hands narrow feet..How am I supposed to decide between the 2 extremes when I have equal number of both?

I read this email and.. ye honestly it does fit me! It fits Exactly with what i've noticed fits me in the past year. I want to try it with my friends to see what we can do with it !!

This is brilliant, im definitely round.

As I was watching this video I thought to myself that my matrix would be Wide-Long-Round. Lo and behold your first outfit example was exactly that, and I'd have to say you really hit the nail on the head with those outfit choices😂 They are all in my wardrobe and my go to's for wearing and shopping for! I especially can't go wrong with coats and long flares, and sundresses with waist definition!

I'm also one of those "FN or SD" girls and this really helped me make sense of it it my own head 😅 It finally clicked for me that the number one baseline to this is "everything should be proportionate", ie thick banded rings for big hands will make them look proportionate while a thin band would showcase their size.... I feel silly right now honestly, but thanks to this, body typing is much easier for me to get my head around.

This is so helpful! Thank you! Much easier than other body typing methods. Where do you shop for clothes? I like many of your items. I can't wait to use your features analysis!

This is the best 😅

This is actually something I thought about before when trying to work out how Kibbe works. I felt there should be more like, scales you work out and then that gives you a matrix of outcomes, and that's exactly what you've done here. I think I'm wide-ish, short and round, and I'm romantic kibbe type.

You are a genius!!

Wow!! This system makes so much sense and is so much more practical for the everyday life thank you Ellie 😭✨ i wonder if building muscle can also affect your body matrix the way gaining weight might? I love that that was added bc that used to confuse me (as someone who gained weight and muscle), with Kibbe IDs 😅

This was a wonderful video-thank you! Could you do a series of your different body types? What if my top half is bony and my bottom half is more round? Do I dress for. Narrow top and a round bottom?

Great Video! Very mich appreciated. (The Speed of speaking is good this time 👌🏻🙃.)

Thanks for the breakdown, Ellie-Jean. Leaning towards wide medium round... I am never sure how wide it has to be to be called wide.