I was too tall/long for most of the types I was considering so maybe that will help you narrow it down! Shoulders/head size and height are good measures.

Same🥲

😂👏🏼 exactly what I was thinking

Same 😭

I think I Need to measure my limbs hah

I was about to comment that

I came here to say this. I muted the remainder of the video and relied on the CC

I agree! Very distracting to the information being provided. It was louder than your voice

Same, it was getting annoying

Literally just stopped the video to comment on the same thing.

agreed!

So true! 😊❤️

I disagree. None of these types discribe me. Makes me feel awful.😢

⁠​⁠@@charlotteblum7037please don‘t Forget that this is Just a Model-a theory. But Models can Never Show the whole complexity of the real World! Otherwise they WOULDN‘T be models

Oooooo yes. 👌🏻

The middle of the video is definitely difficult to hear.

i was going to mention it as well. i rather hear your explanations than loud music. thanks so much for the videos!

Can you show several examples of one body type featuring different people with one body type in one video? For example showing 10 real people with just the dramatic one day. And cover a different body type with it's own video. This video was great, but I feel like you flew real fast through the types and each had only few like 3 photos of that body type.

Yes yes yes! And i. The same video showing many examples of different people featuring only one body type on one video.

Right. The kibbe subreddit is not helpful at all because everyone interprets the descriptions differently. Looking at the same photo, one person will say "the shoulders are blunt" while another person claims "the shoulders are sharp." It should be more objective but it's really very subjective.

Theatrical gang 🎉❤

hahahahaha

Exactly Im 5.7-5.8 and in no Way do I fit into the dramatic type

right? I look best in what would be considered soft natural, but I am 5'8", so soft dramatic fits, but I look like I am in a costume when I wear really glamorous clothes, and I feel like it too.

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not even considered tall at 5"7 where I'm from, but it keeps saying everything above 5"6 is natural or dramatic. 😂 Am so confused.

@@raquel5401 try staying within your category then. if you fit soft natural criteria but you are tall you are a curvy flamboyant natural. Tall curvy women are often misplaced in the soft dramatic category because people forget that flamboyant naturals come in curvy too. Look at Jennifer Lawrence for reference. She has a rounded bust and hips but that is not her dominant trait. Her dominant trait is blunt width throughout her bone structure

The key is to reduce the "Kibbe types" to their core principles. Look at your bone structure. Which do you think is dominant: Verticality? Width? Balance? Petiteness? If you were to draw how fabric falls on your body, how would it look? Would it stretch around your shoulders? Drape around the hips? Drape out the bust? Or would it fall straight from your shoulders to your feet?

Same, I watched this whole video and am more confused now than when it started lol

I'm also kind of confused about the height limits cause I'm average height but I look really short and wide, which kinda goes against the rule that everyone above a certain height will have a long line

@@VanK782 What's your height?

Yes I feel like it should be relative. Like dutch people are usually tall. So even though I’m on the tall side, I’d definitely be short there. And like even 50 yrs ago it was different. My Grandma was considered really tall at like 5’4!!

I'm having the same problem, because I'm what would be described as a pear shape, but also have long legs and an elongated body, and other awkward body shapes/weight. At one point I thought I might be a soft dramatic, and then another time I did an online quiz and tested as Romantic, except I'm too tall. So I'm a lot more confused as well. I get where I start hating my body for not seeming to fit into any of these categories, which I'm sure is not at all the aim of the channel.

@@bozieduble8541 no I'm sure it's not what she's aiming for, but it makes me start to think it's silly to categorize bodies at all. They come in all shapes and sizes, there's probably lots of people who don't fit into these.

I'd love that too

People think overweight is automatically romantic bit it’s really not the case

@@bozieduble8541 depending on your shoulders soft dramatic sounds pretty accurate from what you’ve described!

I agree completely! You will never convince me that I’m not a soft classic. Ruling out double curve for tall people is insane, because some people have really really short torsos…

Yeah, I'm 5'11 and I suspect Kibbe barely considers me a woman at all.

@@kiararose2366 same I’m 5’8 which rules out most body types but I’m pretty sure I have a double curve, and I know she doesn’t like the old classification system but I’m an hourglass I look good with my waste accentuated but according to the video my closest type shouldn’t accentuate their waste so I’m just confused

Same, like, ok, I know I'm not a gamine, but theres almost nothing yang about my frame, even tho I'm 5'9"

Yes, gamines are not supposed to be above 5'5 (hope I wrote that correctly) but Audrey Hepburn apparently is one at 5'6/170cm

I've watched this video a dozen times and I'm still confused. By the sounds of it though, I'm having the same issues you had?

@@bozieduble8541 That could be the case. What kind of a body do you have? Are you also on the taller side of the spectrum? And do you have any specific types of clothes you know really well with you? The descriptions of a dramatic felt very correct for me. I have always had long/large limbs while still being curvy, but not in the way that romantics are described here. Long lines, like a long jacket, work really well with me as well as long dresses etc. Are you maybe similar?

same here!!

I'm so confused

Thank you that is so great to hear!! I hope she finds it helpful ♥️

Ayyy I feel similarly, I can’t tell if I’m theatrical romantic or soft gamine but at least I’ve narrowed it down after watching this four times, doing a quiz online, and asking a best friend for help hahaha. Trying >:))

@@sophiaredwood5825 I completely understand. Good luck!

@@nix2747 You too! 💞

Samee

That’s great to hear I’m so glad it helped you!!

It's very easy to create an edgy effect as a Soft Classic, just 1/2 details will shift the entire feel of the outfit! :)

Agree, I'm 5'8" and absolutely a soft natural who looks shorter.

Yes! I'm 5'11, but I don't look tall. Most people don't realize how tall I am until I'm standing right next them. I feel like Kibbe needs to pick either vertical line or hight, but using both ends up contradicting. I think I'm more of a soft classic myself

It might be about the height she's *perceived* as

@@infinitespiral6758 but then Kibbe always emphasizes that tall women can only be one of three types, lol. Contradictory

Kate Winslet is wrong too. She's 5'6 and has long arms and legs. She wears a size 10 shoe. No way she's a romantic. I personally think FN.

Kibbe verifeid many old Hollywood celebrities based on the characters they played and as style inspo

@@rainnnnnnn This whole thing just seems like bogus, none of it makes any rational sense or has any discernible consistency.

This is great to hear!

I hear you 😂 I placed myself as Dramatic Classic after taking the quiz. ALL wrong hahaha. A professional typing cleared things up. Romantic. Couldn’t see the petiteness/delicateness as I always think myself to be heavier than I am 🙈

Ik in the video you said dramatics can be short but other places have ruled differently. It’s so hard to figure it out on your own 😭

i took a test and it said im a classic, but honestly i still dont know its so confusing...

IGNORE THE HEIGHT LIMIT. Trust me, all it ever does is confuse people and throw the "final score" off, and it's not nearly as important as things like bone structure anyway. If you absolutely MUST analyse your height, go off the proportions of your head compared to the rest of your body instead.

This is great to hear!! Thank you I will add that idea to my list ☺️☺️☺️

Girl same 😂

Yes absolutely!!! ♥️♥️♥️

Ethereal essence is part of Kitchener’s system. Originated sequentially prior to Kibbe’s system but Kibbe chose to omit the Ethereal and Ingenue from his system, leaving some of us stranded. I’m very dominantly an Ethereal. According to Kibbe, it doesn’t have a place in his system. He considers height to be a yang feature, and so someone long and sinewy yet all yin makes no sense to him. All yin would be short and delicate, not a long visual line and delicate. The major differences would be that an Ethereal is delicate in bone structure and overall soft in appearance, like a Romantic… with curves (unlike the straighter silhouette of Dramatics)… with height or long visual line. In this way, some perceive it as the midway point between Romantics and Dramatics. They have a delicateness and softness uncharacteristic of Dramatics, and a long line uncharacteristic of Romantics. They don’t really fit anywhere at all in Kibbe’s system. Which is why I was so lost with Kibbe. The difference in style advice is also palpable. Romantics suit waist emphasis, short lines (like midi-length skirts and dresses, 3/4 sleeves, cropped pants etc)… mid-sized rounded prints like florals, and light to mid-tone colours in light-weight fabrics. Ethereals are considered even more yin according to Kitchener, falling at the extreme yin end of his spectrum. Fabrics that are so lightweight they would fly away in the wind. Colours so light they have almost no contrast with your natural skin tone (meaning if dark-skinned, go by low contrast with your skin colour). Oversized, abstract prints rather than solid florals, yet still soft-edged rather than sharp or geometric. And NO waist emphasis. This is the thing that had me baffled. It’s the biggest style recommendation for Romantics and it was ALL WRONG for me lol. A skirt waistband or a demarcation with a belt, or even colour blocking works for Romantics and does NOT work for Ethereals. They need LONG visual line… like ankle length (not midi or cropped)… and monochromatic, low contrast, super pale colour schemes. One piece from head to toe works best, like a flowing dress. To elongate one part of the body (upper or lower), a dropped waist or an empire waist is best, not the natural waistline. Something that tapers at the waist rather than hangs (which reads more Natural), but doesn’t demarcate at the waist. Overall lighter fabric weight, lighter colours, more delicate florals and laces, ombré effects, more abstract prints and longer line everything (including accessories, hair, jewellery etc). Hope this helps!!! 💝😇😘

Yay I’m so glad this helped you!!

Kibbe believes she is lying about her height for whatever reason and has therefore classified her as R. Celebrities have lots of tricks to make themselves look taller etc. If she is 5"7 then she would be Soft Dramatic :)

@@elliejeanroyden I definitely agree with the Soft Dramatic analysis. Also, as a tall woman, I dont see why female celebs that aren't auditioning to be models would care to be taller than their actual heights. Always found it quite strange that people think they lie about such a thing or that they do lie if thats the actual case

I actually feel like Beyonce is the perfect example of what it means to be tall versus look tall. Just because she's 5'7 doesn't mean that her proportions reflect that height.

@@dahliaherrod4301 Kibbe uses height, Romantics can't be taller than 5'5 according to him. This isn't a case where the styling system stated that vertical is whats to be used as opposed to actual height so my opinion doesn't change.

He also has 5'8 Rihanna as a TR. They're both SD in my opinion. If you ever seen Beyoncé when she first tried vegan diets and got super thin her structure looked dramatic.

Same! 😕 honestly, I want to like send her a picture of myself so.she can tell me? 😅

@@oliviasepelak3083 exactly. I think I'd fit most closely into the romantic but like... I'm 5'7. I think there is a whole lot of body types missing from this system and it's not nuanced enough to fully encompass every variation of bone structure and fat placement....

@@marissahartshorn7049 I feel exactly the same way - although i respect the intentions behind these kind of videos I’m majorly distrustful of trying to “categorise” your body from a limited series of categories made my some random person, regardless of how much they claim to understand “body types” - especially when everyone’s bodies are so so different! Style tips are well and good but when they start implicating that your body has to look a certain way for you to confidently wear certain things I think it’s worth trying to maintain some separation from this mentality (especially as someone who’s struggled with understanding my body for most of my life)

2:31 2:51 5:56 8:46 10:16 10:20 10:30 10:50 11:11 Im sure I've missed some :/