Elliot Shares Why These 15 Saltwater Fish Are Expert Only... Or Not!

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BRStv - Saltwater Aquariums & Reef Tanks

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What does "Expert Only" REALLY mean?! Today, come and hang out with Ryan and Elliot Lim from Marine Collectors, as they go through Elliot's list of saltwater fish that are commonly listed as only for experts. Some of these awesome aquarium fish are, some of them are actually super easy, and you can learn more right here on BRStv!
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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Moorish idol
04:15 Regal angelfish
07:05 Leopard wrasse
10:12 Anthias
14:41 Powder Tangs
17:18 Mandarin
18:49 Tile Fish
20:43 Sand sifting goby
23:21 Copperband butterfly
26:33 Two Spot Goby
28:42 Chromis
31:07 Cleaner Wrasse
32:37 Multibar Angelfish
35:58 Boxfish
37:24 Achilles tang
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@noodles_GA 10 ай бұрын

Ryan, Vic, Elliot, and Than need to do a weekly podcast.

@GamePumaAll 10 ай бұрын

These need to be posted as podcast

@insanity4224 10 ай бұрын

Yes I agree

@mckinleytam 10 ай бұрын

They stopped posting them after Randy left.

@Fish_Ventura 10 ай бұрын

I listen to the old ones like a mental patient in the car. Side note I’m very happy to see the reboot of 52 weeks of reefing..

@ryankattner9966 10 ай бұрын

@@mckinleytamWhat happened to Randy?

@mckinleytam 10 ай бұрын

@@ryankattner9966 he went to work at AT3 Tactical in Minnesota

@BakersReef 10 ай бұрын

These are becoming my favorite series with Elliot

@BrianThyme 10 ай бұрын

Wov it would be nice if you would show some pictures/videos of the fish mentioned in the video. And show the feedings mentioned

@MrUSAFMatt 10 ай бұрын

Ya i was googling them as they went. Pictures would have helped

@ieechew7187 Ай бұрын

I totally agree. Bla bla and no photo!

@v8maro 2 күн бұрын

I have a copperband in an SPS tank with many aggressive fish. I attribute my success to the feeding device I made. When it's feeding time I turn off flow and let him eat a whole cube on his own.

@J_ellis709 10 ай бұрын

Great content! Elliot's knowledge is needed.

@cvin13 10 ай бұрын

Have had my Hawaiian Spotted boxfish for 4 years! Very peaceful tank overall and eats anything I put in the tank. Believe it or not, it actually survived a tornado!

@kevinstuart6110 10 ай бұрын

Wow this video really made me feel like an expert 😊! I have a Moorish idol, a Green Mandarin, a copper band butterfly, a cleaner wrasse, and an Achilles tang. My copper band and my cleaner wrasse both eat from the water column. My Moorish idol eats anything and everything. My Achilles Thang loves Nori and little neck clams, all the fish love little neck clams. If you’re having trouble getting a fish to eat, try a little neck clam. Also strangely enough my Achilles tang will not eat frozen Mysis shrimp/brine shrimp, he isn’t interested in them at all. Over the past eight years I have had ick in my tank twice. I haven’t had an outbreak in years. I do have a UV sterilizer on the tank, I feed many times a day, many different foods soaked in vitamins.

@Baka_Mop 10 ай бұрын

I have mandarins, a moorish idol, and a twinspot goby. My moorish idol started out eating mysis but now only eats flake foods, so I have a big tub of algae flakes for it. I think mandarins can be kept sooner than they say if you buy a bunch of pods to seed the aquarium and then dose phytoplankton to keep the population up. It's really easy to culture phyto, too. Just put in an airstone, dose some fertilizer, and leave it in the backyard. No lighting needed, you have the sun. As for my twinspot goby, I must have gotten extremely lucky, because this guy eats literally everything. Flakes, pellets, mysis. I didn't do anything but buy it from the store and throw it in my nano tank. I was actually surprised to learn that it was considered an expert only fish. To be honest, I think if the fish eats and doesn't have any problems within the first few weeks in the tank, you don't have to worry about it anymore. The guys are right. A fish has a 100x better chance to survive if it can adjust to living in an aquarium.

@Fish_Ventura 10 ай бұрын

Dude, that Achilles is strange. Mine eats everything except TDO chroma boost

@Trooperishim42222 2 ай бұрын

I’ve been doing it for 8 years, I currently have an Achilles tang, powder blue tang too. Both small, came in frail and weak. They have both survived numerous diseases, flukes, ich, etc. Today I plan to pick up a moorish idol, if I do, I’ll update on my success with him.

@Trooperishim42222 2 ай бұрын

So the store sold out of the idol, picked up a Red Sea sailfin, a hippo, and Atlantic blue tang instead. Idol, and banana eel are next tho.

@nathanwilliams786 10 ай бұрын

great topic!

@Merknilash 10 ай бұрын

Hey Ryan, Thanks for the video - love the content The CBB challenge seems to be down to a few key factors - 1.) get one that eats in the store if possible 2.) if not eating, at least ensure that it’s a very active and healthy fish in the store To wean them on food and get them eating the ONE thing that worked when everything else failed was small live clams Buy them from a market live, freeze them, then drop them in after they’ve been fully frozen - they will thaw and open. I got this from Reef Dudes. Nothing else worked - not brine shrimp or mysis or masstick or black worms Once he started eating clams he started eating mysis and other stuff

@andymingni 10 ай бұрын

What is a high fiber food f or morish idols?

@thomask6663 10 ай бұрын

Loved this, only 4 of the spices I do not have, and Achilles coming later this year :) so 3 down. Learned a lot, thanks!

@insanity4224 10 ай бұрын

More of these!!!

@nathanjerome9060 10 ай бұрын

Love the conversation….but guys…post some pics of the fish you’re talking about!

@dynamic21 8 ай бұрын

would’ve been nice to have clips/vids of each fish as you talked about them

@saucytabasco 9 ай бұрын

Ryan as others mentioned, this should also be podcast format l. These are great

@zippicusplays 10 ай бұрын

Sweet!

@dtredinnick5897 10 ай бұрын

Do an edit of each fish as you talk about them

@cegentry 10 ай бұрын

Great video!!! I have bought what is for me quite a few fish from Elliot (a laughable amount for some people I would imagine). Had very few issues. Those issues are due to the nature of the fish I have ordered (fairy wrasses. They just don’t ship well in my experience and don’t live very long if they have super male coloration). The other fish I have ordered from him have been AMAZING!!! I ordered some fish from another well known vendor that specializes in treated fish and the results are not the same. Not even close. Highly doubt I will ever order from them again just not a good experience and the animals are nowhere near as healthy. Marine collectors isn’t the cheapest place to buy fish but if you want the best chance of success and you can’t do all the treatments yourself MC is the way to go.

@nibrashamdan9921 10 ай бұрын

37:44 My Achilles recovered from sever ich using polyp lab medic. (For weeks!!) following “strict” instructions, ozonizer, water changes, and oversized UV with lots of multivitamin socked diet (pellets, seaweeds, frozen!!).and this beauty ruling my tank for more than 2 years now…and boy it loves flow!!

@BenGifford 10 ай бұрын

I've had two sps tanks do really well with blue cleaner wrasses for about 4 years by feeding them Cyclops. I'd be very interested on a video for the moorish idol; always have wanted one.

@MrSqueakers 2 ай бұрын

Cleaner wrasse, Regal angel, and copperband butterflyfish still raccooning it up. They all seem to have being a lot more intentional and very curious if they are otherwise content. Regal angel always stares into my soul like a fat blenny on a rock

@MrSqueakers 5 ай бұрын

I am a poopoo garbage saltwater keeper and can barely keep any coral alive because I suck at nutrient balance but the Regal Angelfish, Copperband Butterfly, and Cleaner Wrasse thrive and haven't ever even shown lympho I tried a Bicolor Angel, Kleins Butterfly, and Solon Wrasse before those 3 and none of them made it and I had way better parameters at the time. I'm on month 6 with these 3 though and they seem smart. Most of the fish in my tank like to pick at things and investigate. The Regal Angel, Copperband, and Clown are the trio that greets anyone looking at the tank even if they already got fed. Cleaner latches onto my arm when cleaning like a very polite toothpaste looking leech.

@Fish_Ventura 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the huge Pentair is my key to success so far, first 1.5 yrs in a tank full of Tangs. I have Elliot fish too

@trippharper9169 9 ай бұрын

This is great information. I have been working with Elliot for a while on a moorish Idol. This video really helps me out. Just am not sure if he will tear up my corals

@erictoennis3653 10 ай бұрын

My copperband butterfly fish is now over 9 years old. It ate all the aphasia and then started eating Mysis shrimp. Just after that i started it on LRS food in a magnetic net to simulate its natural eating behavior. Its the most bulletproof fish i have now.

@willbritton133 10 ай бұрын

Magnetic net?

@erictoennis3653 10 ай бұрын

@@willbritton133 I use the two little fishies magnetic pouch feeder

@robspielmann9244 10 ай бұрын

Always scared of mandarins once I got my first I was surprised how easy it was just as long as you know what and how to feed them!

@lukefham7138 10 ай бұрын

Just got my powder blue tang from Elliot, man that thing is beautiful and healthy, definitely recommend marine collector

@reyman7131 10 ай бұрын

Did you quarantine or just put him in the display?

@lukefham7138 10 ай бұрын

@@reyman7131 straight to the display, but I use a acclimation box, have it in there for 3 days so I can try to get it eating the food I’ll be feeding.

@saucytabasco 3 ай бұрын

Elliot sells both. Ive bought a QT'd fish from him before and had no issues. The fish failed to adapt over 3 months and slowly perished but thats due to the difficulty of the fish and not disease, it had a very difficult time transitioning off live foods (spotted drum). $750 fish 😬 @@reyman7131

@saucytabasco Ай бұрын

@@reyman7131You wouldn't want to QT a second time, unless you consider observation period QT. Definitely not recommended to medicate twice

@daviddistefano9508 10 ай бұрын

What are Elliot's preferred/recommended high fiber foods for the Moorish Idols?

@virginiagaines1162 6 ай бұрын

Manderian goby /dragonet. My favorite fish. If I wait the 18 months can it be a wild caught or still need a tank raised one. 😊

@zanderkay6632 10 ай бұрын

I disagree with the Copperband. Mine is 7 years old, likes eating everything except dry food and actively swims against my gyre pump. The only difficulty was at the beginning to make him eat. I just dumped a slightly opened oyster in the tank and problem was solved. I love that fish, he’s constantly in my way when I have my hands in the tank.

@saucytabasco Ай бұрын

You mean disagree with YOUR copperband. Like a bell curve your experience does not match the experience 90% of hobbyist will encounter

@nickfalco8121 6 ай бұрын

@poloreef I’d love to have any of those fish. What holy grail fish are you eyeing for the future? Any moray eels in any of your systems?

@exasperatus2002 5 ай бұрын

For those ich prone fish, would a cleaner wrasse or shrimp be useful tool to help fight it?

@saucytabasco Ай бұрын

Not even close, no

@simplereefer 10 ай бұрын

I thought the same about the cleaner wrasse, I thought it would last 6mths it's been about two years. I've been lucky to keep a copper band around the same period as well. I am just about to swap my Yellow tang for an Achilles, how would you qt the fish?

@the_SAMLA_reefer 5 ай бұрын

I wanna add a group of fish that is really hard, obligate corallivore butterflyfish

@timothydoyle3380 8 ай бұрын

I would love Elliot/Ryan to do a spotlight on the Pinecone fish (Cleidopus gloriamaris). I have wanted to keep these for years. As well, frogfish would be a good one to spotlight. Many people keep them for maybe a year or so, and then they mysteriously die. Is it the frozen food, live food, something else?

@garysteinert8040 10 ай бұрын

Why would you not show an image of each fish?

@elchappo1320 10 ай бұрын

Cuz u can google it 🤷‍♂️

@magicalnocturnal 10 ай бұрын

Could we get a video on how to manage sponges?

@Meilingsueyoung 6 ай бұрын

Should post a pic with each fish

@user-sc5zf7lq6x 20 күн бұрын

Ryan : àaaaaaaaaaaa eeeeereerrrrr 😊

@UnfilteredJustice 4 ай бұрын

Would've been cool to show pics of the fish along with the list.

@bigheadreef579 10 ай бұрын

@BRStv Does Elliott mention how he quarantines the mandarin fish?

@Robert-xn6xs 10 ай бұрын

Ryan, what auto feeder do you use? I used the Neptune but it feeds too much, even at the lowest setting. No way could I set it for hourly. Thanks

@saf1671 10 ай бұрын

I feed hourly with my Neptune auto feeder starting at 0830 and found a mix of pellet size and brand worked best. TDO x-small, small, and medium, PE mysis, and hakari S (I think that is it). I also have a larger size hakari pellet that I'll add but sometimes it blocks when I use the first setting on the feeder.

@mikkostenberg1740 10 ай бұрын

One source had positive experience in having Anthias and Chromis in the same tank. The Anthias would stop Chromis from fighting he said. Would anyone have similar experience? We need an update video of Ryan's 360! ☝️🙂

@orange422 10 ай бұрын

Which talk does he mention at 10:12?

@kylethomas6641 10 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ablxhNKayJabk40.html

@thomasdirocco 10 ай бұрын

High Tide Aquatics hosted Matt Wandell: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ablxhNKayJabk40.htmlsi=w1DcIoVFf9cIVCBB

@EIY_Kumar 10 ай бұрын

Do a same episode on inverts

@DoYouEvenFishTank 10 ай бұрын

I rewound it 3 times to make sure you let it slip 🤣🤣🤣

@Richs_reef 10 ай бұрын

Took me 4 rewinds to catch it! Hahahah

@kentjaeger6602 10 ай бұрын

I have a bicolor wrasse in quarantine, he eats but is too aggressive stressing other fish in QT. He will finish quarantine in the sump, then I will trade him in back to the LFS

@mmagscott 10 ай бұрын

Had a copperband that ate mysis straight out of a turkey baster. Very healthy and happy, but they a big maroon clown got jealous and ate its eye in one bite while it was eating from the turkey baster. It swam in circles for 6 months before it died.

@chrisbaber1164 10 ай бұрын

I do understand the concerns with the Achilles but I don’t think the flow has to be that high. I run 4 MP40s and 2 4K gyres and mine has been super happy for 2 years. I am about to move it out do to put growing the tank. But as stated it is very much a gamble.

@colby4027 10 ай бұрын

Pretty high flow you got there

@janinesnyder8250 10 ай бұрын

Pets 101: Feed the pet what it eats 😂

@paulsalley2332 7 ай бұрын

The only thing that could have improved this a pic of the fish your talking about, otherwise really informative

@AlsFishBarn 10 ай бұрын

3 MO60s on a 120 isn’t enough flow for an Achilles… that is insane

@1mmotown 10 ай бұрын

So who does Elliott sell fish from?

@PoloReef 10 ай бұрын

regal and copper can melt livers.

@PoloReef 10 ай бұрын

regals do better in chloroquine2.5 weeks

@PoloReef 10 ай бұрын

uronema and purples. formalin doesnt always work

@Agro2929 10 ай бұрын

Prisoners fish

@saf1671 10 ай бұрын

The only drawback to this particular content is that some hobbyist will not put in the time or effort to maintain some of the animals you mentioned in this talk. They already balk at paying captive raised or bred fish what leads us to believe they will pay for special order fish that are conditioned for home aquariums? Also on the condition front there has been a push in our hobby that nutrients are evil. Captive bred, raised, fish arrive small and need to eat multiple times a day to include a variety. Add in some of the fish mentioned here and it is a double whammy. Feed often. Feed a variety. Watch what they eat. Adapt to the animal then at a slower pace try to ween it to a more standard routine. Just because a handful can successfully keep a Moorish Idol doesn't translate to the masses. Just my opinion. I do think you point out strongly about conditioning, source, and effort throughout the series so hopefully viewers hear it.