Ellone Explained | Final Fantasy VIII Analysis

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Alleyway Jack

Alleyway Jack

3 жыл бұрын

In the last of my Final Fantasy VIII character analysis we take a detailed look at the mysterious girl at the centre of Squall's dream sequences, Ellone.
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In this episode we take a look at the narrative bridge between past and present, Squall and Laguna, and a proponent of the theme of Time that drives much of the Final Fantasy VIII plot forwards:
This FF8 character analysis includes:
- Ellone's origins
- Ellone's Abilities
- Whether Ellone is a sorceress - a GF - or something else entirely?
- The role Dr Odine and Ellone play in the plight of our central villain Ultimecia
- The Junction Machine Ellone and the Guardian Forces abilities
- Time compression and all the vaguely confusing bits of the FFVIII story
#Ellone #FFVIII #GameDiscourses

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@AlleywayJack
@AlleywayJack 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. If you enjoyed the episode there's more Final Fantasy discussions available on the channel, along with essays on the Game Discourses website: gamediscourses.com/
@whitleylevi
@whitleylevi 3 жыл бұрын
VIII has so much under the surface. One can completely miss the depth of this character if they are just casually playing through the game.
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 2 жыл бұрын
That's because a lot of the writing was cut back on. You can 100% tell that they spent the majority of the game's development time and budget on 'Disc 1'.
@WardenOfTerra
@WardenOfTerra 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Ellione was Ultimecia. She's stuck in her own time loop because of how obsessed she is with being as close to Squall as possible, and it's her own doing. She stalks him from the beginning of the game without him even knowing who she is. She invades his mind, and tries to make him see that Laguna is his father but fails due to Laguna being a complete clown. She even went to the point of drawing Griever out of Squall's mind and junctions to it just to be THAT close to him. Due to her becoming corrupt, it drew out the worst part of Squall's mind, and that leads him to fight and defeat a huge part of himself. Ellione doesn't want Squall to forget her no matter what and she even goes to the extent of constantly putting him through pain, trying to make him constantly remember her. Ultimecia also tells Squall in a cryptic way to also live for her, which is Ellione finally dying and not wanting Squall to live in peace. You can also make the argument that Ellione became Ultimecia so that Squall could finally defeat Griever, which is Squall's darkest side due to him being a gunblade edgelord, and be at peace with himself after losing his mother and being abandoned by Laguna; of whom 100% failed him as a father after Raine died, but I personally don't think that's the case. Ellione ultimately knew Squall's pain due to her losing her parents, not once, but twice, and ultimately went to the utmost extent to not lose Squall by wanting to compress time so that she could be his 'Big Sis' forever and keep him as a thing. She even wants Squall to kill Rinoa by having Adel junction Rinoa to her because she's jealous of how close Squall is becoming to Rinoa. I would even bet that Ellione went to the extent of killing Raine through time compression, and making Laguna abandon Squall in an attempt to become even closer to Squall, and after that failed, she went to playing literal mind games with him, thinking that it would work due to how corrupt she was quickly becoming. Ellione blends into the background of the game, which is why she's the perfect psychopathic character to make her the main villain of Final Fantasy VIII.
@killcomis
@killcomis 2 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy 8 is my favorite game of all time. The characters were all so identifiable, and they were much deeper than FF7. Squall being a cold introvert reminded me of me when I was a kid, and I had a group of friends who forced me out of my shell like he did.
@dannywright1317
@dannywright1317 3 жыл бұрын
Anything ff8 I LOVE
@fallenwing25
@fallenwing25 3 жыл бұрын
Right!! Well....anything positive about ff8 I love lol!!!
@RiceDaddy07
@RiceDaddy07 2 ай бұрын
I find this game extremely flawed...yet, I love it so much. Maybe because it's an underdog. I dunno.
@leonheart9720
@leonheart9720 3 жыл бұрын
i was a very sad child but when i had the opportunity to play ff8 one could say(but i dont listen to any of that noise =) ) that i became obsessed with the idea of your actions echoing out so far across time as Lagunas did. it really helped me become an optimist and look for things i could do that would ehco in some sort of way.
@AlleywayJack
@AlleywayJack 3 жыл бұрын
It's great you took something so positive from the game. I've similarly been profoundly affected by certain stories and character arcs in the FF games (pretty much why I started this channel), but Laguna in particular is the greatest advertisement for living life well and considerately even in times of adversity. Love that guy.
@killcomis
@killcomis 2 жыл бұрын
That's great. I identified with Squall very much back in the day. I was a bit introverted and cold, and afraid to let people get close. I also had a bunch of people who forced me to be their friends, which I'm thankful for now. I even had a Rinoa who pulled me out of my shell :)
@trufreedom
@trufreedom 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! This was one I didn't know I wanted lol What about a video on Raine or the relationship between her and Laguna? It might be short but still interesting...
@AlleywayJack
@AlleywayJack 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered how she eventually warmed to him after thinking he was such a crybaby, it's one of the great 'fill in the blanks' aspects of FF8.
@jrcolacola
@jrcolacola Жыл бұрын
Seeing how that's Squall parents it's very interesting and sad... I'd be nice to get an FF8 Remake, I'd like to see more of their story.
@fallenwing25
@fallenwing25 3 жыл бұрын
See, I thought ellone was half summon like terra in ff6 but ff8 has a monster theme to their summons.
@AlleywayJack
@AlleywayJack 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's something I'd always mulled over too. I recall one of the designers (I think Nomura) saying the GFs were purposefully designed to more more beast-like, hence Ramuh being replaced by Quezacotl etc. but then Siren and Shiva still look pretty humanoid... either way, there's nothing that really clarifies it in-game but it's always been an interesting idea story-wise.
@seantaylor424
@seantaylor424 Жыл бұрын
I really liked that bit about the heroes being related to their villains to tie "the plot" (someone wants to hurt the world) to "the story" (whatever issues the hero faces that the project really wants to talk about) together. Very clever story structure and has vibes of that samurai philosophy that "the way you fight is the way you think." Thank you for pointing that out, because I never would have noticed it myself.
@Book_Bird
@Book_Bird 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to finish the rest of the video!
@SeLeBoCreations
@SeLeBoCreations Жыл бұрын
Just finished this game for the first time, and this was a great explanation! Subbed!
@AlleywayJack
@AlleywayJack Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed this :)
@Kimarusco
@Kimarusco 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, I’m going to have to check out your new site too!
@johnny_roots
@johnny_roots 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, I am mindblown bro ✨ just subscribed 😎
@juicylipsbrand
@juicylipsbrand 3 жыл бұрын
I love Jack!!
@wenskitomasz
@wenskitomasz 2 ай бұрын
I thought possibly Elone was Julia's and Laguna's child. Figured that night they met, she became pregnant with his baby. Julia had to give her up for adoption before or after she met Rinoa's father. In a way, she could be Squalls and Rinoa's half sis. She was able to enter Rinoa's mind in space, which could be used to explain why Laguna had such a strong connection to her without even knowing it. She resembles Julia, and this could be used in a remake... fingers crossed.
@CSM100MK2
@CSM100MK2 3 жыл бұрын
Love your work, thank you so much. Congrats on the website!
@marine76a
@marine76a Жыл бұрын
Great work, hard character to research and certainly critical to FF VIII's story.
@karlssonhermes
@karlssonhermes Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to play as Ellone in an FF8 sequel
@ellie_is_jelly_
@ellie_is_jelly_ 2 жыл бұрын
i’m named after ellone. MY NAME IS ELLONE I WILL ADD YOU ON ANY SOICAL MEDIA TO SEND YOU A PICTURE OF MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE IT TO YOU THAT MY NAME IS ELLONE
@killcomis
@killcomis 2 жыл бұрын
That's cool
@ALeaud
@ALeaud Жыл бұрын
That's so awesome. I wanted to name my daughter Rinoa but my wife said that it sounds like anime name (she's Japanese) so we decided not to haha.
@anointedcosmos9830
@anointedcosmos9830 Жыл бұрын
My daughtets has that name too 😊
@ellie_is_jelly_
@ellie_is_jelly_ Жыл бұрын
@@anointedcosmos9830 is it spelled the same?
@anointedcosmos9830
@anointedcosmos9830 Жыл бұрын
@@ellie_is_jelly_ yea 🤓
@aryanritchie7759
@aryanritchie7759 Жыл бұрын
7 & 8 all the way
@o-shawnspecific80
@o-shawnspecific80 2 жыл бұрын
Rinoa has to be Ultimecia, despite Kitase flat out lying lol. One more hint you wont find anywhere I find interesting Ultimecia's name is based on Queen Artemisia who historically mourned her husband whos symbol was a lion. Shouldn't have to tell you about Griever at this point..the lion GF which retains the name only told to Rinoa when summoned by Ultimecia. And oh. Rinoas' name means Queen. Go figure. Edea- Means prosperous in war. Ellone- Means "God loves me." Dunno what Ellones could be trying to say, I get the others.
@o-shawnspecific80
@o-shawnspecific80 2 жыл бұрын
Sorceresses in FF8 for the who don't know are beings possessed with the power of the God Hyne. So I wonder. "God loves me." What is the connection between Ellone and Hyne? Where does she get her power seeing as there gas always been 1 Sorceress at a time. Unless.... Long ago the God Hyne came to Earth and found it inhabited by monsters..he slew the majority of them ans created humans, he then slept. When he awake humans had overpopulated the Earth. He burned down a vast majority of the human population inciting a war between himself and humans. He was forced to leave half-his lower half of his body with the humans to escape them. The top half of Hyne definitely 100% is the part possessing Sorceresses. So. Why Ellone and what then did humans do with that bottom half? Perhaps that somehow is the source of her power.
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