Zelda Skyward Sword: Into the Layerverse

skyward sword:"here,take an unused layer 0 and schrödingers birdstatue"

In this video, I'll be explaing what I do to beat Skyward Sword in 0.5 sword swings...

"I am four universe ahead "

@@percher4824 you can do it in 0, right?

Oh my, I had not realized the irony until now, wow

@@NightClawprower like Solar Sans would have said: "oh wow"

@@drago3036 Noice profile pic

@@cryguy0000 Nice profile you have in general there~ ;P

@@drago3036 plz subscribe, I require sustenance. And Gloria best gurl

It's probably optimisation, the glitchunter's friend and foe

@@satibel Unloading stuff when Link goes out of bounds smells like optimization to me. Im not sure what purpose it has, maybe transitioning to load screens faster?

@@Araragi298 the most probable answer is that it frees ram. (The wii has only 64MB of general purpose ram, and 24MB for the gpu) it might also be that it loads the next zone, which is empty but still unloads the other. It may also be that it avoids looping on a trigger, like you go back in and out of the zone if you stay on the same spot if both were loaded?

Honestly that makes me happy. Any% is usually pretty dumb

Half the fun is breaking the game. If it was too easy it wouldn’t be fun.

How to beat undertale in 2 seconds

@@icicleditor wrong game.

guess my train got off at the wrong timeline

Pls explain to me what the barrier skip is. Is it from Twilight princess?

@@javelinmaster2 no i believe its from wind waker. There used to be an impassible invisible barrier untill not to long ago where people found out finally how to glitch and pass it

*_You better play Skyward Sword some time_*

It's not just Skyward Sword but any speedrun skip explanations or potential skips etc.

@Batman's Wife ok then

Skyward Sword is a wonderful game is a must-play for any Zelda fan imo. The people who whine about the motion-controls incessantly are just mad because they suck at it.

Samuel Cho no

And games journalists

@@fighterjetmadeofbiceps3518 game journalists will hate just about everything about games, except for like youtube channels based on reviews (its a bit more split, but generally they're more fair / accepting and will even give tips on what could have been improved) but like most big game journalists / companies and shit almost always just shit on every little thing and more often then not only play a few minutes - maybe an hour or two

@@DivineXPotato (cough) IGN, [cough] Rain World, {wheeze} PMD, and *death* Sonic

@cursedex Have you ever heard of filler?

Anjolie Barrios “man :( I cant sequence break this game it must be filler”

Wait theoretically you could use the gate of time to shave off some time? (Get it because you travel back in time via the gate of time)

@@jaydentt imagine a speedrun where the player goes through the game at a horrible pace but when they pass through the gate of time, the timer goes back to zero, or maybe even a really big negative number. Boom, world record by technicality.

@@roc-noK hahahahaha i like how you think my dude

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Fi is annoy

Documenter haha Ok thank you

Documenter haha r/nobodyasked

"grooseinator"

I love it too, but it's nothing special. That's what Groose names his catapult thing that you use in the second and third Imprisoned fights.

@@amazinblasian117/videos/videos Yes. That's the joke.

THE GROOSE IS LOOSE

Scub But that's what it's called that's it's official name there is nothing wrong with that

Most of these wouldn't be that interesting. It would pretty much be "we RBM some shit" and that's it

@@Oscaro300 Still would be interesting how they went around and found a skip, Also, He wouldn't have to make one video per glitch. Just bundle them all together in one : )

again, they just checked all skyloft flags when RBM was first found and faron flags when Faron RBM was found. then checked which one matched with useful things pretty much everywhere I feel like even for a single video it's not necessarily enough content

many of the things are still not really possible,but they are just bypassed by a faster route. that is literally all there is to it

Me too

Not to mention all the in game mechanics (z-targeting, etc)

Which mechanic? BiTmagic?

@@calfriedman6981 The way scene event flags are handled. Theoretically BiT should be possible in OoT as well, but I don't think the game loads the save files when you select them, so it's not possible to produce the same effect. Maybe it's possible with the default save data?

@@MNGoldenEagle It's fine we got ACE.

why this make me chuckle so loud

I think you forgot about wrong warping and moon warp.

@@trentthen642 MoonWarp is new, wasnt it discoverd Last month?

Sapradon It was discovered November.

@@trentthen642 i was near then ;)

Considering how long speed runs take to mature, and how they keep improving years (and sometimes decades) after release, you'd need a gate of time to utilise that in the development.

@@TlalocTemporal nice pun

What about breath of the wild any% speedrun

@@CristianGomez-yu8gp but they designed the game so you could, it would be hard but you could do it. hence having to fight all four of gannons forms before the main fight, they intended it, so the speed run, isn't all that much shorter than what the designers probably intended for those hard core challenge seekers, the rest of the game is just fluff for the rest of us that love the world and the lore.

Perhaps "shortest intended route" is a better criterion then

@Hydra Most games aren't made to be pathed in a Speedrun (exceptions being games like Speedrunners From Hell, Clustertruck, etc.). A game with so few opportunities to sequence break/glitch successfully is just a sign of very solid coding skills on the company's end.

i remember times were it took ~6 hours to any% run this game. The game already lost so much to glitch hunters and runners, let it at least have it’s last piece of dignity, the gate of time.

@@Caipi2070 lucky you xD this game used to take a fair bit longer than that

Gohobogo Ahahaha "well programmed"??!?!!?! BiT magic, BiT warping, BiT itself, wrong warping is all well programmed?

@@trentthen642 Say, how many games have you programmed?

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Onavi 1 Lol never mind

Yet. Majora's Mask has been under the magnifying glasses of speedrunners for far longer than Skyward Sword. Who knows what we'll discover in the future?

Oh come on ! We already broke up this game so bad that we can get the MS in less than 20 minutes !

I want my HD gate clip without Epona

Which involves loading flags set by Twilight Princess

Mobius Double Reacharound BITVirus

How do you bitwarp

You could time travel to shave off time

and people wonder how calamity ganon came into existence some say they found the gate of time skip others say it was because they messed with the fabric of time too much though no one would ever know the truth not even if they wished on the triforce

"I couldn't skip the Time Gate due to RNG, dude."

And even after the BiTMagic and reverse BiTmagic tricks, Skyward Sword is otherwise so stable that the trick for these otherwise intractable actions is literally to skip it all. Had the arcane magic not been possible, these would still be problems.

As far as I can tell, the closed Gate of Time in the Temple of Time doesn't react to anything. On one layer where it's open though, it simply softlocks when you try to use it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKh4i9CryMzIj6c.html

Ah damn. Interesting that it works at all though. I wonder why it softlocks. Since there's no fadeout at all it would seem there's a lack of loading zone entierly, not just a defunct exit value. And that sounds like something that can't really be overcome, no matter the glitches discovered. Shame, this would have made for some really interesting speedrun routes i think.

I think it involves using back in time glitch and basically loading a save as you use a bird statue look up "back in time glitch skyward sword" and maybe "skyward sword reverseBitMagic"

I'm not a speed runner but I can try to explain. Back in time (BiT) is a glitch that is used to save the title screen onto a profile. Once we have this save, we can do a bunch of wacky things. Reverse BiT magic is new and I dont yet know how it works, but that's the basics

@@cal276 I think reverseBitMagic is saving at a bird statue and loading a save at the same time because from what I can understand basically because every map is usually around 0, 0, 0 and if you save at a bird statue and load a save the game I think loads the coordinates from the bird statue you just saved at in the save you loaded and whatever layer that was active in the title screen

@@cal276 also when you do bit you can't have a save that can keep the status of having the title screen and gameplay if you save in the title screen (no loading another save) and close the game and reload it, it won't have the title screen (like when you reload the save)

There is a another video on his chanel

The Gate of Time in Lanayru softlocks if you try to open it. Though we aren't able to naturally get into a situation like this to begin with: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKh4i9CryMzIj6c.html

Oops

Probably a performance thing. Story flags are often tied to events accompanied by cutscenes, whereas the others are just from simple actions like pushing logs. Having it separate allows faster reading (as it just has to check the current scene and not load a big array) and likely allows the array to be asynchronously updated, avoiding framerate drops or the like. In the situations story flags are set, that's not really a concern.

@@LilacMonarch Yeah, I could see that! Would make sense.

I mean a flag is either set or it isn't the number of times you set it doesn't matter

LTTP says hello

@MrCheeze I meant 3D Zeldas and in comparison to the other times the record shrank, though see the mistake I made. If RBM was to SS what Barrier Skip was to WW, then ASF(Arbitrary Story Flags) would be game changing.

You can load the story flags from your file in BiT with BiTMagic indeed. And you can RBM story flags by starting your file as the flag gets set, just like with scene flags. But to open the Gate of Time (as en exemple), you need the story flag for beating the Imprisoned 2 (among other things). So to open the Gate of Time in BiT you would need to BiTMagic the story flag for beating the Imprisoned 2 in BiT. That requires a file that has beaten the Imprisoned 2. That doesn't skip anything.

No, the Sky Keep route is already fast enough, the problem is that the wrong warp to the past isn't doable without cheats currently

@@azer67 Indeed, if only there was not that actors unloading issue when Reverse Bitwarping OoB, that would change things. One day, hopefully :)

All the dependencies listed (except for silent realm items) are story flags also

gymnast86 ok, thanks for letting me know. I’d just watched your any% after this video so good luck on getting the record back if you try again soon

You can get into Sky Keep without beating any other dungeons. First you can perform an RBM to open up Hylia's Trial gate on Skyloft: www.zeldaspeedruns.com/ss/area/skyloft#early-goddesss-silent-realm This allows you to get the stone of trials and open up the dungeon. To skip the Clawshot requirement for getting into the dungeon, you can perform a Reverse BitWarp with the Skyview Temple Boss Door statue as seen here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g5tleZuBzLDVkac.html There are still some complications with actually completing Sky Keep while only having the slingshot available (mainly in the room which has the Triforce of Wisdom), but if we get around those, we could probably beat Sky Keep in a little more than an hour after starting the game. As far as wrong warps go, this is the table of all wrong warps that are known: www.zeldaspeedruns.com/ss/misc/wrong-warping