Emirates Fined $1.8 Million For Flying Below 32,000 Feet Over Iraq

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14 күн бұрын

The US Department of Transportation has said that Emirates has been fined $1.8 million for not following the country’s protocols of staying above a certain limit in altitude while flying over Iraq for flights to the US.
The fine applies to flights operated between December 2021 and August 2022 that flew over Iraq on their way to the United States. For safety reasons, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) doesn’t allow US airlines to fly over Iraq under 32,000 feet. No, Emirates is NOT a US airline, but can you guess why the rules were applied to the Dubai carrier?
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@insayn7995 13 күн бұрын

Gotta feel bad for the pilots, they’re just following the ATC.

@irokpe6977 12 күн бұрын

Must they fly over Iranian airspace enroute to the US?

@boi7867 12 күн бұрын

@@irokpe6977 They mustn't, but ATC directed them so👍

@sledgehammer7499 11 күн бұрын

Pilots have the right to refuse ATC instructions deemed unsafe. This is most commonly applied to "land and hold short" clearances, but the captain should've gotten on the radio and said "unable - due to safety reasons, request FL320 or higher or new route". The captain could've done this, but didn't. Hence the fine.

@TOGASRSRWY 9 күн бұрын

@@irokpe6977Iraq not Iran.

@arefkr 6 күн бұрын

@@irokpe6977Iraq, not Iran 🤦

@A2KLAU 13 күн бұрын

Dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t 😢 the flight crew really have no choice but to follow ATC for obvious safety reasons.

@Mas4gh4Roblox 13 күн бұрын

Then ATC should get fined.

@doodi1222 13 күн бұрын

@@Mas4gh4Roblox why should Iraqi ATC care about US rules?

@wv_ 13 күн бұрын

One word: "unable". They can tell ATC they are not able to do so and ATC can adapt.

@ViktorFromDK 13 күн бұрын

In cases like this one the pilot could say unable and that they require FL320 or higher

@AnotherPointOfView944 13 күн бұрын

@@doodi1222 Good for business, generally.

@eamonahern7495 13 күн бұрын

Not the pilots' fault. Solution: don't carry US flight share codes for flights over Iraq.

@jtirello3_111 12 күн бұрын

$1.8M? Emirates has that much in change stuck between the seats!

@williegitau6680 12 күн бұрын

😂😂😂

@alexfilms2309 9 күн бұрын

So true

@BFP8447 7 күн бұрын

Fined for not using Boeing's aircrafts.

@c0r5e 10 күн бұрын

ICAO is the standard not FAA lmao

@MandoMonge 12 күн бұрын

The US being the US

@carholic-sz3qv 8 күн бұрын

the us beeing @zzhol"s

@GWAYGWAY1 7 күн бұрын

They think they are the Worlds policeman jury and hangman. What somebody at the FAA thinks they do about other countries companies then tries to enforce their rules whilst is other places.

@zloinaopako 13 күн бұрын

Well, it seems that the strict US codes led to putting the passengers in deeper potential trouble, particularly the Americans, if the Emirates US bound flights need to make any emergency landings in Iran.

@GalootWrangler 13 күн бұрын

Something about frying pans and fires.

@757Aviation. 13 күн бұрын

That is very crazy

@phillm156 13 күн бұрын

Atc takes priority for good reason. Political policy should align with this.

@benjamindally2397 13 күн бұрын

Would not have guessed the grand circle between Dubai and New York crosses Hamburg…

@AnotherPointOfView944 13 күн бұрын

Great circle

@manumani7326 13 күн бұрын

How to get easy money method from the faa

@attisik3320 13 күн бұрын

Who is the last or highest authority of the 2? If ther's a red light but the police officer is directing the cars, u obey the police man, no? So ....??

@jet4926 13 күн бұрын

Fines are like Fees, it's doesn't solve anything. 🤔

@paulorocky 12 күн бұрын

Cost of doing business. Trucking firms in Australia do the same thing.

@sundragon7703 13 күн бұрын

By belonging to code share partnerships, does US liability law extend to parties under foreign ownership?

@aviatorsound914 13 күн бұрын

This regulation is actually designed in order to ensure the airline avoid certain airspace.

@SYDAirlineEnthusiast 12 күн бұрын

So what if they were at maximum zero fuel weight and close to maximum takeoff weight? They would have to stay at 28,000 feet or 29,000 feet at first.

@2point7182818284590 12 күн бұрын

This regulation is actually designed in order to ensure the airline avoid certain airspace.

@billotto602 9 күн бұрын

I think the FAA needs to square things with whatever ATC is in control of that airspace !

@w215 13 күн бұрын

this is interesting

@dannmm6745 5 күн бұрын

The fine should be for Jetblue not for Emirates…

@lifeovdeath 10 күн бұрын

So who does this fine go to? Iraq or US? Seems like straight out theft by the US

@averdung 6 күн бұрын

Great way to discourage codeshares with American airlines... Wonder if the airline alliances also face this possibility

@zionismisterrorism8716 13 күн бұрын

Ridiculous.

@MisoDad777 12 күн бұрын

How petty

@alexfilms2309 13 күн бұрын

The title says Iran but he talks about Iraq

@MC-810 13 күн бұрын

Looks like it was fixed within 10 minutes.

@benjamindally2397 13 күн бұрын

He was still 75% correct 🤷‍♂️😁

@Rasscasse 13 күн бұрын

Ha!

@jk484 13 күн бұрын

Also in the video it says "FIND" not Fined

@fonzireyes 12 күн бұрын

What I would like to know is why FL32? Ground to air missiles? FL33 OK? And why not fine ATC who instructed FL32 or below? Are they not the ones giving instructions to pilots? Or are pilots to go rogue because of this FL32 directive? The whole thing sounds like it came out of some bureaucratic desk.

@user-zw4cc8ww4y 11 күн бұрын

Iraq has been at war since 2003. There are many surface to air missiles all over Iraq due to the chaos and defeat of the Iraqi army and the raiding of Iraqi arms depots by ISIS, other armed militias and others. What could go wrong?

@ThePearson1945 13 күн бұрын

Madness !! Anything to make money 💰!! What about stealing oil 🛢 from Iraq 🇮🇶!!

@Thefinestselection2024 13 күн бұрын

Whatabouism might NOT the best solution in this case.

@chaoszombie9995 13 күн бұрын

I’ll take things that didn’t happen for 500

@bigsyrup8567 12 күн бұрын

And what are you gonna do about it? Hahahahahah

@kwiky5643 9 күн бұрын

@@bigsyrup8567 « hahahaha » 🤓

@robertlee6338 9 күн бұрын

Emirates scheduled 122 flight in the offending period and violated minimum 32,000 feet flight level 122 times Ie every single scheduled flight

@hungo7720 13 күн бұрын

This is the most outrageous thing that such contravenation was fined. Emirates should do something to refrain from replicating the same situation.

@paulorocky 12 күн бұрын

They could just pull out of the US

@MasterofBlitz 11 күн бұрын

@@paulorockyProblem with that is loss of tens of millions in revenue.

@savagecub 8 күн бұрын

That’s pocket change for Emirates.

@tomg6284 11 күн бұрын

Well that airspace is not ours to tell anyone how to fly! The FAA should shut up and look into Boeing being corrupt.

@jace1113 13 күн бұрын

No surprise the usual hegemon over stepping its jurisdiction.

@nurrizadjatmiko21 13 күн бұрын

🤔Very Interesting

@richardg8651 9 күн бұрын

WHY the 32,000 feet limit? This is not explained.

@margarita8442 7 күн бұрын

rockets

@arefkr 6 күн бұрын

ISIS threatened the civilian aircrafts, hence flying above 32k feet.

@carholic-sz3qv 8 күн бұрын

does Iraq belongs to the usa?what kind of joke is that?!

@adamtonkin3800 13 күн бұрын

Pathetic and petty.

@AnotherPointOfView944 13 күн бұрын

Deterrent for next time.

@nadeemalvi7728 12 күн бұрын

would thought they would fly non fly zone both iraq and iran all carrier remember mh17 got shot down over ukraine still emirates would fly their gulf over turkey europe or up over scandinavian

@jobbiejew 13 күн бұрын

The FAA oughta sort out their own house and processes before they comment on international carriers, even if it’s a codeshare agreement. I suppose, when it comes to the U.S. they’ll do everything they can to bleed money out of anything.

@FlyByWire1 12 күн бұрын

So your suggestion is that they don’t enforce existing laws equally because they had issues with Boeing…? That’s your genius idea? 😂😂

@Unuthryear 12 күн бұрын

1.8 million is couch cushion money to Emrites. Report real issues not this kind of nonsense

@Behemoth29 12 күн бұрын

Wouldn't be flight safety risks in Iraqi airspace if the US didn't invade in the first place.

@GIGAzone 7 күн бұрын

money mongers ..why sine them when they following clear instruction

@grandsoleil56 8 күн бұрын

The US upto its usual tricks

@wildgurgs3614 10 күн бұрын

Armchair pilot here. IMO pilots should've refused to enter the airspace of the country in question without first being given clearance above FL320, citing the regulation. Caveat - Regulation may not be at the forefront of the pilots' minds when regulation-violating instructions were received. Either way, I blame the controllers for failing to give Emirates pilots the altitude clearance they needed to comply with regs

@4evertrue830 5 күн бұрын

The question is, why is the US still in Iraq after all these years? Have they not done enough damage over there already?

@RichardMigneron 9 күн бұрын

Simple, fine the ATC ... they've got cockpit voice recorders, they can verify.

@gabrielfinneran3611 13 күн бұрын

Well iran love rhe US so there's no safety threat there

@VamarSwiss 10 күн бұрын

They **used to**

@Michael_K_Woods 12 күн бұрын

Now they fly over the more dangerous Iran. 😂

@SalimAlguslan 13 күн бұрын

mad IMPERIALISTS

@soeren72 13 күн бұрын

EK Pilots really makes allot of mistakes. And typical american arrogance, stay inside your own space

@nntflow7058 13 күн бұрын

Stop using American products, like youtube.

@MC-810 13 күн бұрын

Since you were not paying attention to the video this was for flights bound for the US, so this is very much inside the FAA’s space.

@AnotherPointOfView944 13 күн бұрын

What are you on about?

@jace1113 13 күн бұрын

@@MC-810so can someone explain the purpose of the minimum 32000 ft limit over Iraq?

@Rasscasse 13 күн бұрын

Maybe to keep them well out of the way of US military aircraft ?

@Yefro72 13 күн бұрын

The Arabs will pay . They have the money 😂

@JDashRider 13 күн бұрын

Meanwhile, US border is wide open. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@pr1nyc1 12 күн бұрын

$1.8M more to fund the border

@carholic-sz3qv 8 күн бұрын

@@pr1nyc1 you mean to go to peoples pockets?!