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thanks for bringing galactic versus back

harrower class dreadnought vs victory 2 star destroyer

Eckhart were you on crack when you made this?

What do you mean?

@@robiagacitei5487 wow you're late I'd say you'd be fun at parties but no one would be there xD

LoL

What he means is the empire in this video basically did every he hardly mentioned the rebel it was the empire he was pretty much say could fight the republic an cis

@@billcipher9068 damn bro you killed him

KorporateKotoo yeah they could overwhelm especially with tons of cis ships in the region

Yea they had alot like alot and since empires itself have some droid hideouts that is pretty much advantage

Yes and it had one of the biggest navy's in star wars also there numbers were unreal and probably would have overwhelmed them and it would be hard with all the Tactical/ Super tactical droids everywhere making really smart tactics 24/7. Also with land battles wouldn't the CIS win? because I gotta say the Empire doesn't have the best military first thing b1's are probably close too having better aim than a storm trooper and they would probably be out numbered by alot of droids.

Quark what are you doing here?

@@agent1485 the droids can function as your first line of meat shields, your clones will be working behind them. Clone commandos working with BX and IG100 droids would be lethal against normal human stormtroopers and rebels. Heck, even the ships will be a problem. Clones commanding droid fighters to cover them from fire would be something special too, BUT tIE Defenders make that a challenge

The Rebels practically invented plot armor.

@@proudamerican183 its so thick ud need a lightsaber to cut through it

@@archferrier4482 A huge lightsaber. Like Death Star huge lightsaber.

@@proudamerican183 u need star killer base to penetrate it

Rebels couldn’t win on military power alone they had to take advantage of the self defeating fascist ideology of the empire. Of the rebel can take out a space station people on oppressed planets will revolt and rise up. Rebels always beat the empire due to the nature of the empire and the emperor

yes lmao

Vader and Anakin would be confused

@@atomicbuttocks I already hear darth Vaders *wat*

@@archferrier4482 Anakin: pikachu face

@@deadzone4155 :O

The wrist rockets they usually watch out for are on their side though

Also commando droids. Now seeing imperial troops get sliced from those vibro swords or close combat with BX-Commando droids instead of clones.

It's also probably going to be just like the simulations

They just have to set em up and knock em down.

The rebels have the best starships and the imps have the most hard hitting capital ships. So basically they are unstoppable

Sand does get everywhere

There was also the subjugators and the pride of the core

Dont forget the senate

Gaming Derek oh you mean sheev?

Wait what town/city do the high ground and Sand control

I mean the Cis hast Droid fighters, perfect for suicide bombing

ye try and clear a path into the trench and send a giant amount of hyenas to bomb it and suicide it, with an escort of a couple of separatist capital ships and a crap ton of vulture droids like 1000s of vultures to kamikaze into there

If they know the death star weak spot

Lol I think the Republic and Rebel Alliance (New Republic) Would atleast try to negotiate peace terms bc you know, both sides would have thier own mon mothma

@@darthdevinsith7239 the cis had the plans for the Death Star

Literally the CIS has tens of thousands of ships, and hundreds of millions of droids. Also the GAR had almost the same but millions of Clones and Thousands of ships.

I agree, the rebels would be almost useless due to the Republic and CIS having loads of laser cannons on their capital ships

Honestly I agree with you the Republic and the separatists would win it would be easy in the first years now in the Clone Wars don't forget the Republic had a hard time few planets that they were trying to liberate but they got through them

I must agree they can attack a Death star attack it inside and blow it up. and bigger they are harder they fall. and they got Anakin and Yoda maul and all types of droids and clones don't forget about Droidekas big brothers or clones commandos slave 1 and more characters stuff to me droids and clones should win on the time Empire had time get resources CIS and Republic were fighting a war they didn't have time do research and stuff and a Empire just fighting Rebels to me I think CIS AND REPUBLIC should be won this who disagree or agree.

@@sinossadragonstarrk ya started out strong but it went downhill fast

TheSyndicalistDragon A new hope

The force kept the stormtroopers from shooting correctly perhaps

How about the B1 Battle Droids and rebel alliance

Brendan Khao plot armor

Plot armour Beats all

With such strength, every loss the empire would take is most likely to be permanent with such momentum and force.

Not to mention that the combined resources of the CIS and the Republic could go towards overwhelming amounts of clones

And don't forget the CIS' bioweapons, non-conventional warheads, and, of course, the subjugator class battleships (Malevolence)

Yes and yes i agree

@@user-ft3jq5vi2l which Don't actually need to disable a ship in it's entirety You take out key points on something and it suffers greatly Leaving it easier prey to other ships

the republic and CIS could easily steal like 10 ISDs within a year

@@spencerrr9878 General Grievous and a team of Magnaguard could take 10 ISDs, now imagine the thousands of Jedi the Republic had and really you end up with a 2+2 equals win for the prequels

@@weinsteintheironjew7312 But couldn't the Death Star II blow up Coruscant WITH the Jedi temple, and WHERE most Jedi are stationed.

@@epicsx43 The death star two was not fully functional during the battle of endor, only being able to fire its main cannon, would probably have no hyperdrive capabilities for however long it takes to make a hyperdrive capable of moving a space that large relatively quicker, making it easy pickings for the republic and CIS fleets.

Or delta squad

The Empire was on a different scale than the CIS by far

Dr Kirb Kenneth kirby the storm troopers where only special forces and where not used nearly exclusively there navy troopers where used more was regularly

Aren't CIS fighters insanely powerful because of the droids AI's? Even out matching the Republic clones pilots in skill and numbers?

You just wrote an essay...in the comments section of a KZfaq video... RESPECT

KorporateKotoo I wouldn’t say in skill although they were close, but yeah they greatly outnumbered them

Ken the Yorkshireman The Stormtroopers are still skilled. And the biggest factor here is space battles where the Empire has a massive advantage. And the Empire can pretty easily hit Kamino and hit it hard. Ground combat won't be the deciding factor and even on the ground the Empire will win a lot

Ken the Yorkshireman prequel trilogy team gets their fleet blown the fuck out and their armies get stranded. That's what would really happen

Bruce Jedi Lee A dozen small infiltration squads with some Jedi would be able to drop ISD and SSD easily. The Empire would always be on the defensive and droids don’t get tired

@Bruce The CIS would have the Malevolence protecting Geonosis, which is superior to most Imperial starships. Also the CIS and Republic both had inferior capital ships, but way better star-fighters. Lets not forget the 2nd best star-fighter ever (Umbara Starfighter) was either on the side of the Republic or Confederacy (depending on which part of the prequal era you're in). This would work well to defend Kamino. Also the Stormtroopers are hardly any more competent than a B2 battle droid, and yet droids could be mass produced at a way faster rate.

Ken the Yorkshireman good plan

Nope I just misspelled and didn't feel like correcting, think it's a meme now tho🤔

Forever meme now, Navy Straganth.

Freighttrain Dude your editing sucked ass. You totally ruined this video. A kindergarten class with an old Apple II could do a better job.

That's rude. Apologize right now.

HeroicASF I enjoyed the typos honestly

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I legit scrolled down to see a comment like this

Your sad devotion to that ancient religion hasn't helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes nor has it given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels hidden fortress...

Imperial probe droids found the hoth base.

@@minecat1839 they do find at least one of those things though They succesfully track the rebels everywhere they even track down the data tapes to the farmstead but just the droids are no longer there at the time the empire does in fact have a very good track record of finding things.

well, high ground, you do seem to have a *bold jedi* (general kenobi) standing on your face

Haha, i wrote a comment with the same idea

Ok but who has the high ground if there is no ground.

Connor Odum It's not my fault to have this name You do know that I have to wait 3 months to change my name

The High Ground ehh something like optimus prime would shoot you easy

Except that the cis plans were only the basis for the Death Star. The fatal flaw of the Death Star was built by an imperial scientist AFTER the cis planned it. Not to mention that we are dealing with the Death Star 2 witch was a top to bottom re design of the Death Star.

@@andrewhayes1530 Still for a more conventional attack the earlier plans would be invaluable

Oscar Lord of Darkness he also said that they couldn’t use knowledge of the past or future. Just like how the empire can’t use knowledge of coruscant or the Jedi or ships used by the factions

@@andrewhayes1530 I wasn't saying they would have them is just that your aforementioned statement doesn't give credit to how useful knowing the basic function of its main systems which I believe would use similar mechanics for the prototype design the first death star or the second design

It was prototype, construction didn't start until the Empire took control of everything, but they would know the general idea of what it can do

and droids can do mauevers that no human can do and they do not fear death

Think about the x-wings and the A-wings witch are much better fighters than the republic or CIS could ever make

At ground the prequels completely destroy any army, huge amounts of soldiers, and some vehicles are more conssistent, like Cis dropship In space the classic have much more advantage with better tecnology, but with less troops,

@@guilhermef.cabral8252 the ogs basically own space, they can cut any important supply line that the prequels have

Imperial Star Destroyers: Oops there goes your carriers! Goodbye.

GAR is grand army of the republic not galactic army of the republic

CIS is also a MASTER at blockading. The donut ship is almost near unkillable due to it's armament and veristilty of guns. This paired with the well trained clones and pretty good ventilators make them unstoppable together.

The Malevolence could disrupt the Death Star, but it's sheer size may mitigate the time it could be kept disabled. Plus if Empire commanders saw the Malevolence as a big enough threat, couldn't they simply snipe it out the battle first? The DS-2 was certainly capable of whacking off capital ships.

​@@kurtisvandermiller4507 not even close. A single Imperial I-class Star Destroyer could all too easily wipe the floor with even a planetary blockade fleet of hundreds of Lucrehulk-class Battleships. Especially given that they're literally just converted merchant ships that don't have the firepower or the shields to compete with a true warship.

Not even close. The Separatist military was literally nothing more than a hodgepodge of hastily-converted merchant ships, anti-piracy vessels, exploration vessels and battle droids that were designed purely for bullying weak, impoverished and entirely defenseless worlds that couldn't possibly stick up for themselves. The only reason as to why they were even remotely a threat to the Republic is because the Republic had been completely demilitarized for over 1,000 YEARS and literally had to scrape together a standing military force out of virtually nothing. Outside of the Malevolence and Droid Commandos, the Separatist Alliance never once actually developed anything all that special or particularly innovative. The entire strength of the Grand Army of the Republic at its absolute height during the Clone Wars amounted to at most 6 million Fett Clone Troopers (and no, units means individual Fett Clone Troopers, so unless you can prove otherwise, don't even bother trying to haggle over what it means). The Imperial Stormtrooper Corps alone easily fielded BILLIONS of Imperial Stormtroopers, all of whom were just as skilled if not even more skilled than the Fett Clone Troopers ever were, whereas the Imperial Army itself casually fielded TENS OF TRILLIONS of troops. By virtue of raw numbers alone, the Grand Army of the Republic gets effortlessly crushed hard. As for the Jedi Order, the First Battle of Geonosis more than proves that they're nowhere near as much of an advantage as everybody makes them out to be. Hundreds of Jedi were very easily overwhelmed by mere swarms of battle droids and would've been wiped out completely if hadn't been for the Grand Army of the Republic swooping in to save them. In other words, the Galactic Empire, with its nigh infinite army/pool of manpower, Darth Vader, the Hands of the Emperor, the Inquisitorius (the Expanded Universe version), the Prophets of the Dark Side, the Dark Side Elite and Darth Sidious himself at their disposal, should have no problems dealing of them. Except that battle droids were literally just expendable kneecappers that relied entirely on overwhelming numbers and were only really useful for picking on those that couldn't defend themselves. Even taking into account Droidekas, Super Battle Droids, IG-100 Magnaguards and Droid Commandos, the bottom line is that they only made up an absolute minority of the Separatist Droid Army (nearly all of which is made up of comically useless B1-series Battle Droids) and therefore wouldn't be particularly decisive in a fight with the likes of the Galactic Empire. Furthermore, if one examines the Battle of Praesitlyn (where a mere force of 20,000 Fett Clone and 1 Jedi defeated a massive Separatist force of 1,000,000 battle droids despite being hilariously outnumbered by a margin of 50-to-1), then it isn't so hard to believe that Imperial Stormtroopers (who, again, were just as good if not even better than their Republic predecessors) with the assistance of Darth Vader and all of the other Dark Siders at the Galactic Empire's disposal could defeat the Separatist Droid Army without any serious trouble. None of that really matters because the Galactic Empire can very easily just nope all of that out of existence with the Galaxy Gun and the Sun Crusher. The Galaxy Gun blows the Malevolence out of existence (very possibly killing General Grievous in the process, therefore throwing the entire Separatist Droid Army into chaos in the process) followed by destroying Kamino (the only source of effective Fett Clone Troopers and the very beating heart and soul of the entire Republic war effort), Geonosis, Coruscant, Serenno (very possibly killing Count Dooku himself, an act that would trigger the near-immediate total collapse of the entire Separatist Alliance in a single swift and decisive stroke) and many other targets all while the Sun Crusher (a literally nigh-indestructible starfighter that's equipped with resonance torpedoes that are powerful enough to trigger super novae) can casually wipe out entire Republic and Separatist fleets without so much as breaking a sweat. And those are just 2 of the Galactic Empire's superweapons. If I throw in everything else that the Galactic Empire built then this war wouldn't even last a day. As for starfighters, you very obviously haven't heard of the TIE Defender, the TIE Phantom, the TIE Avenger, the TIE Hunter, the TIE Predator, etc., etc.. All of which decisively outclass everything that the Republic and the Separatists ever fielded. And in the hands of the likes of Baron Soontir Fel, Maarek Stele and Darth Vader himself, they'd effortlessly steamroll anything that comes across their path. In conclusion, you're absolutely sleeping on the Galactic Empire and are completely wrong regarding just about anything.

mountainconn0r well rebels have plot armour just get the luke,leia, han and chewie on the death star

On the ground sure, the problem is the reverse is true in space. The Rebel fleet, both capital and starfighter, help provide cover for the Imperial fleet's weaknesses while the Imperial Navy can provide bulk firepower like nobody else and even the Rebel fleet capital ships are a step up in firepower. By comparison both the Venator and Providence sacrifice a fair bit for carrying strike craft, strike craft that are going to have a hard time being able to overwhelm their enemy if there's a reasonable Rebel contingent and next to any capital ship fight in the Clone Wars they just don't have the time for a prolonged strike craft engagement to play out as their capital ships are getting bulldozed by Imperial Star Destroyers. I think the only thing that could really save the Republic+CIS is if the Imperials are too arrogant and pig-headed to appreciate the assets provided by the Rebels and how they might be useful when facing such strike craft heavy fleets. While this is on point for Imperials behavior wise it ends up with the matchup leaning very hard on 'X will win because Y will be dumb' instead of a broader assessment of capabilities.

@@AmurTiger i would have to disagree with you, the rebel pilots are blatantly worse than the Clone AND Droid fighter AIs, they are better than the Imperial fighters but the bar was so low that its basically irrelevent to even count the imperial fighters at all. As far as capitol ships go the Rebellions ships are decent but dont have the compliment of skill and tactics to fight a head-on war and their hit and run tactics that worked well on the lumbering fleet of the empire wouldnt fare as well on the CIS or Republic. The Imperial navy has high firepower but their ships were designed with no utility in mind and lack strong fighter screening which would lose them most battles with the Republic or the CIS whom both relied heavily on fighter/bomber support as their damage output and would be fielding at least twice as many better fighters with far mor skilled pilots than the imperial navy has. Sure tge Empire loves their superships but they cannot massproduce them so we cannot claim that they are gamechangers. Furthermore the technology difference that Eck argues in the video would be unreasonable to reference as the CIS and Republic would also be doing research as the war goes on, and as we saw in wwII having lots of science stuffs doesnt guarentee you to win.

Stormtroopers Actually can aim, just look at any scene without plot armor.

Yes a clone Trooper is better than a stormtrooper but there were only 6 million of them while the empire had billions if trillions of stormptroppers

But Empire had Thrawn

I’d have to say the republic is most likely to succeed. Soldiers win a war, and a pilot is as good as its aircraft. Meaning to say, good soldiers are the most important aspect to win a war. Tactics, armament, adaptability, etc, along with good soldiers, result in a deadly military force. The clones were programmed from birth, trained with the best technology and commanders, and were meant for only one thing, to fight. They also had strong and superior weapons to their foes (The droids), not to mention the vast types of ground vehicles, and a large fleet of venator class destroyers. Going back to their training, they probably had the best training out of every single faction. I’m pretty sure they’d beat each faction without a doubt.

Yes, But what about Capital Ships Combat

bruh even obi-wan said that storm troopers were horrifying and deadly. stormtroopers destroyed an entire village. and Vader and emperor told them to miss purposely to track down the rebel base. They have good aim. it was funny when it was a joke. now it getting annoying

@@thefakecoconut oh my gosh thank you. I thought I was the only one who understood this.

Elemental Jedi Prequels would win the ground battles for sure, same as Starfighter only battles. However, the Imperial Navy was just too powerful cruiser wise, so if it comes to a space battle with every group's navy, OT would win. The Rebel cruisers would also be great support, due to the sheer size.

+dalekcats, the empire had a real big weakness to quality starfighters WAIT who mass produced quality starfighters capable of taking out capital ships THE REPUBLIC.

The empire had royal guards and shadow guards to rival Jedi to some extent, and palpatine had years of finding Sith artefacts and other stuff, so he would later be more powerfull

+Thyre Radim With the empire and rebels working together, rebel ships might be mass produced by the empire to overcome such a weakness. Also the empire has access to ion missiles used by the rebels that the republic hasn't developed yet. If they full attack with tie bombers the republic fighters will be forced to defend similar to a clone wars ep where Ahsoka uses the fighters to attack and loses the battle. The rebels usually didn't have capitol ships to protect and surprise advantage which caused the weakness in the empires ships. Also consider how long tie fighters last against x-wings which are better then anything the republic has besides jedi.

Keegan Frederickson X wings are not better than even half of the ships in the Republic

Will Brown Yet the Empire technology is more advance and its ships are made for maximum firepower in mind.

Well then vote for clones and clankers

Will Brown the empire built everything as if it was at war and the empires ships were way better then the CIS and republic

You also forget how many swarms of TIEs the Empire can field at once. Almost as much as the CIS (though not as cause droids) couple that with a few quality fighters in the Interceptor and Defender (plays rebel Starfighters), there's your anti-starfighter screen. Granted, SDs by themselves suck versus strike aircraft, but that's where the Alliance and advanced TIEs come in.

Emp United technology more advanced is dubious , yes turbo lasers are more powerful than clone wars tech but does the empire use it as effectively? Judging by how the rebellion wins then no

Sam dale Agreed

I disagree though. The Empire is the republic with cis tech, then upgraded a bunch. so the empire alone had more than enough of a tech advantage. Also had at least quadruple the resources of republic and cis combined(and that is disregarding EU). to be honest having the rebels help the empire is just adding insult to injury. at least without the rebels, the prequel factions could exploit lack of star fighter power on the more standard imperial fleets.

+The Emperor Problem is, the Empire was focused more on intimidating police-forces rather than effective military-forces. This is a big point that's brought up in _hundreds_ of videos that discuss the Empire in combat scenarios.

The Emperor exactly. Also superweapons and dreadnaughts. Boom

Sam dale i think the empire has space I don’t see them doing well on the ground at all

@@BobJason1 #ChosenOne

The Death Star's weakness was made by an IMPERIAL scientist, so they had no idea of the weakness.

I think a strike force of Jedi masters could likely beat Luke and Vader in a straight fight, but keep in mind that sidious became even stronger in the force as he practiced in the empire. And Vader in return of the Jedi is stated to be 70% of sidious’ power. I think it’s more likely like and Vader would die in there ships as the star destroyers and super star destroyers covering them are invaded and taken over by strike teams.

Then just have Luke and Vader sit back And have Luke, the person in legends with the steepest learning curve access to Sidious library. The empire also had numerous other force users aswell

@@epicsx43 You mean the giant hole in it that the Millennium Falcon could fly through? You'd have to be blind to have no idea of that weakness.

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did you mean: ThE EmpIre DeStRoYs bOth GaR and CiS wiTH MeThsTar

Sebastiaan Klaassen Ground forces are useless when there are no ground battles because ISDs and ESDs would bombard every planet with CIS and GR forces.

Кирилл Дектярев even then, watches episode3? Also the star destroyers are not that well equipped against the amount of fighters the cis an GR have to offer. Even, a hit and run tactic could be used.

Sebastiaan Klaassen Eeeh, GE is SO used to handle hit-run tactics from rebels, that it is likely that GE would easily adapt to this.

Кирилл Дектярев they never did tho

Кирилл Дектярев Except that the Empire couldn't adapt to the Rebellions hit-and-run tactics at all.

I mean the empire did own 80% of the galaxy or so, they did have the most advanced soldiers too, like SCAR, 501st, Guard, Shadow Guard, also uh, they have TIE defenders, and the rebellions B-wing.

This does include one caveat though. The rebels. The exact people with dogfighting skills the empire lost so much to, working with them. Fleets of x a b and y wings accompanying the empire? For this one point, I think they have the advantage.

@@connordewalt8525 Yes but the rebels have limited numbers. It's 1000 vulture droids vs 1 rebel fighter the vulture droids would easily overwhelm any starfighters both factions could muster. That is without even mentioning clones.

The thing is, movies only show IS2s in action. Empire had great anti star fighter craft such as the Raider courvete that would very well protect its big ships from star fighters and were incredibly effective. Effective to the point none of them were present in the movies since theyd just shoot the main cast down imo lmao

Ion Sinclair when did the 501st belong to the empire? It was still the republic when anakin betrayed

You don't think that upgraded fighters and all the aces the rebellion had would be useful? MonCalamari shielding? Luke Skywalker? Han Solo and Chewbacca?

Elemental Jedi im generally happy with how well thought out he does stuff like this, but this one was poorly done. the rebellion had a ton to offer and it was overlooked, war is so much more then numbers and industry and it was overlooked, the power of so many force users was overlooked, even planetary shielding to force a land battle was overlooked. im not saying the final victor is wrong, it may not be, but i am saying far too little was taken into account for three of the factions

I agree with yig, he almost completely ignored everything that Rebels had to offer. Such they had some of the piolets out of the two factions. The Rebel solders were almost always outmanned, and they did win some engagements.

Jay Ferguson dude what is a young like chewy and Han gonna do against 10,000 Jedi knights and the most best soldiers ever seen in the galaxy, if the empire helps the rebels mass produce their army they might help out but they'd get crushed

What happened to all those 10,000 jedi? Soldiers for some, right? Then Vader went on a spree to kill those remaining for the Empire. Is Vader still here? Lemme check. Yep. Please to also remember that a lot of those jedi weren't fighters. They could absolutely do damage in a normal sense, but not against a lot of soldiers. Certainly not if they can't leave the planet because their navy's done in. It's sort of a team effort, yes? Rebellion can't handle what it was never intended to fight. What they'd offer is small unit tactics, heroes, aces, and (especially towards the end) some actual combat worthy ships. I know y'all want to talk about how the swarms of ships that the CR could field would overwhelm the Empire/Rebellion, but that's just not the way it would be. Technology progresses.

Probably because they just don't have any advantages, outside of the Jedi. Their ships are inferior, they have less system control, and they're less militarized. If the Empire just keeps sending the Death Star, and a fleet to escort it, to keep destroying core worlds, the Republic and CIS are kinda fucked. Their only option would be to send a Jedi strike force onto the Death Star to stop it.

@@psyco829 Battle meditation is a pretty useful power.

@@psyco829 how are they not militarized ever heard of the clone wars? Seriously your a joke dude with the republic teaming with the cis the rebels stand no chance apart from that yes the empire does have many advantages but what if they just storm the death star or maybe make there own since technically the plans still exists in the prequal, not only that but any number of assortment of things from Anakin, obiwan, more and better ships, general gravious, count, if they count that is like yes it would be a struggle buuuut i think the prequal got it

@@Khunt16 reading is a useful skill in many ways. It would, for example, have helped you see that I said LESS militarized. And the Republic was less militarized than the totaltarian empire was.

Yet the empire lacks skill, valuing quantity over quality, while the republic uses both in balance. Also the CIS could simply send wave after wave of Battledroids in a mass bonzai while the republic also begins to prepare it’s soldiers. Also, the Malevolence outclassed many imperial ships, and the empire isn’t really meant for all out war. Also they lost the death star to a few fucking rebel ships. I don’t think it’s that mighty, especially counting in that the CIS planned the fucking death star and knew all of it’s flaws before the empire began. Also The Galactic Republic’s fighter Ships outclassed The Galactic Republic’s tie fighters. (Also unrelated to the comment) What if Luke got the rebels to fight alongside the prequel forces or abandoned the rebellion for The Galactic Republic to fight alongside his father? That’d be interesting and certainly turn the tide. Especially since Luke could point out vulnerabilities in the rebellion (if we’re going with the second idea)

sith empire from the old republic hands down at least thier troops can hit things and way more sith on thier side let alone the ships aswell are abit more on the awkward side to hit and you got jadus' ship aswell that could kill all life on a planet if not destroy the planet like the death star (its been a while since i last did the inquisitor storyline so i cant fully remember but i know for a fact millions were gunna die)

Vitiate vs Palpatine is a scary thought. But while the Galaxy was a lot less explored during the Sith Empire’s time, thus they had less planets and resources, and their technology is inferior, THEY HAVE AN ABSOLUTE FUCK TON OF SITH, and DOZENS of Sith Lords almost or as powerful as Vader

>merciless battledroids My sides

This is the best comment

BRICIE Ground battles would never happen, ISDs would just bombard the planet with 200 gigaton turbolaser batteries.

Good point but the empire wouldn't need to fight on the ground with the Death Star Eclihpse Sovereigns SSDs ISD etc....... they would just easily win the space battle and then bombard the crap out of the planet destroying everything

"200 gigaton turbolaser batteries" ????????????? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7iCY7WB19jDops.html

Jacob Mathena Ground forces are useless when there would be no ground battles because ISDs and ESDs would bombard every planet with CIS and GR. And drowning GE with small starfighters is a pretty bad idea, because GE has a lot more capital ships which starfighters are not going to damage.

Кирилл Дектярев Really? I remember a certain super star destroyer being one shotted by a A-wing. Plus although out the clone wars we saw that the CIS often boarded enemy vessels. And I'm pretty sure destroyer droids and clones would shred the stormtrooper crews.

Jacob Mathena After it's shields were deactivated. SSDs can literally ram through other big capital ships without any significant damage.

Jacob Mathena And I am pretty sure it would not come down to ground combat.

Кирилл Дектярев True. But the rebel alliance somehow managed to do it during the battle of endor. Plus the CIS always has the Malevolence. And I'm not saying that the CIS would be able to board every ship, but the ones that they do board will probably be taken over.

But Vader vs Anakin and Obi-Wan and Yoda, Mace Windu and don't forget General F#@$ing Grievous. Now the Emperor is another story all together but no you can't put all your hope into one basket like that sorry

Chancelor Palpatine vs the Emperor. .. the Chancellor wins obviously. Because becoming Emperor made Palpatine weak, because his passion and anger became dormant, he miscalculated. The Republic plus CIS would win because the Empire is just an empty shell. Looks impressive but lasted a mere 40 years. With Palpatine loyal to the Republic and working for victory with the Jedi and the CIS yup the Empire rebels would lose. The Emperor himself is vulnerable strike team of Anakin, Dooku, windu and Yoda working together would be too much for him.

It is because the Empire is so much more powerful than the other factions that he just needed to explain why the Empire wins in that category. he wasn't ranking them in any order so he only needed to explain who won and why.

No there not. There a fucking joke an los to rebels. Terrible

@@playableelite5209 the empire really isn't, it has the largest navy but the republic clones are way better troops than Stormtroopers and the cis droids out number the empire on a massive scale

Francisco Rivera agreed

Empire

@@rafaelroriz6622 the fuk

Just death star droid factory worlds and kamino and laugh lmao

Pretty much

Plus Palpatine would stop hamstringing the CIS

Space hitler and his emo friend know the kill switch that shuts down the entire droid army. And palatine, being the most powerful sith to ever exist, would have no issue with dealing with the Jedi. Not to mention he would also have Vader, his inquisitors and the chosen one to help him.

Also people are forgetting the CIS has grevious, Doku, and ventress. Grevious is a fucking monster and could easily kill luke, go toe to toe with Vader and even palpitene feared him. Doku knows all of sidous's tactics. And then ventress was so strong palpitene wanted to get rid of her out of fear of here strength. This is on top of the republic order. The empire has no shot at winning this.

@@kurtisvandermiller4507 that's true, Grievous is insane

@@ethanedwards422 Except he would, that was literally the whole point of him waiting for the Jedi to go extinct before making his move. His whole reason for orchestrating the war wasn't just to split the Galaxy, but to **weaken** the Jedi order. In its peak he couldn't take on the entire order by himself, and he knew this being the genius that he was. Especially not with Anakin, mace, Yoda, etc still active. Also you're greatly overestimating Inquisitors lol. Save for maybe 2 or 3, the vast majority of them were fodder and gotten taken out by other fodder. Many of them were younglings/mere Padawans when enlisted by the Empire and Palpatine purposely made sure they weren't too strong so as they wouldn't become a threat.

Exactly. At a first glance, you'd think the Empire would have naval superiority. And in specific, 1v1 situations they would 10/10 have it everytime. But that's not at all how naval battles are usually fought, and the Empire trades a lot of practicality for size and fear invoking.

Star Wars: Facts and Theories While CIS and GR had arguably better ground forces and starfighters, these advantages are useless. There would likely be no ground combat, ISDs and ESDs would just bombard the planets with enemy forces. Starfighters are pretty useless when your enemy has much more powerful capital ships and has a lot of them. Really, the advantages of CIS and GR might look good on paper, but are pretty minimal in an all-out war. Plus we have rebels with arguably the best fighters helping GE.

The empire could win any space battle they pick without even the Death Star SSDs etc u have to think about the big picture the empire wouldn't need to fight on the ground and the Jedi would be insignificant courascont could just be blown up by the Death Star or levelled by ISDs think about it

And any Jedi cannot stop the fire power of a fleet with over powering fire power one SSD could wipe out an entire fleet of Venators before Anakin or Obi won could even react super star destroyers have over 9000 turbo lasers and other stuff

I can understand your reasoning. However, we know that the GR and the CIS had the two largest fleets in Star Wars history. Plus they had, by far, the highest amount of fighters. So even though the GE had way better capitol ships that will be useless compared with an overwhelming force. I mean if you think about it, the Empire would be overwhelmed in ever battle!

I would like to add to Star Wars: Facts, he didn't even cover that the GR had Victory I's and the Pride of the Core proto SSD.

yh the plans were first seen on geonosis

Yes, but they weren't complete, which is why we see director krinic trying to get back the protagonists father at the start of the film. With the unfinished plans, the cis doesn't have much to go off of. This cis probably wouldn't be a problem either, as space Hitler and his emo friend knew the kill switch to the entire droid army.

@@ethanedwards422 Not if they have no knolewdge of the past, as the video states as a rule. The Separatists would already be in control of young space Hitler and his young emo friend, so that possibility is off.

Jovialmonster 75 Ground battles don't do jack shit when there would likley be no ground battles because ISDs and ESDs would bombard every planet with CIS and GR.

That's why the empire chose to invade planets instead of just bombarding them, right name I can't type on this keyboard?

+Кирилл Дектярев The Empire did many ground invasions, way more than bombardments.

Badger The only times the Empire did ground assaults was when it was necessary, such as the shield generator on Hoth preventing proper bombardment.

There is going to be even more roflstomp. The actual citizens of CIS+republic will join the war in the battle to end all battles. Because losing means your world is destroyed by the Death Stars. Whereas the Rebels will need a new name, Rebel Remnants because of mass desertions, since their whole reason for existing (G.Empire tyranny/brutality) will be nullified the moment the Death Stars destroy worlds. To top it off CIS Palpatine leaks the Death Star early Plans and from there Anakin, Kenobi, Plo Koon and w/e else takes the finishing shot.

gcix isme and i never left hentai so fast too!

My man

gcix isme lol same

gcix isme Same here

Yes,you're right

Yeah but the stormtrooper corp was still inferior to the clones. They also were a small portion of the army.

@@totallynotpotato9268 Yea, they are under the clones but they aren’t that weak, they’re fairly strong if they can take over the galaxy

@@thefakecoconut agreed

@@thefakecoconut they didnt take over the galaxy the clones did who were replaced by weaker human individuals

@@xX-Defaultylogin yes but they still maintained the order for years, they are definitely weaker but they aren’t as weak as people say they are

but you have to realize the the empire was formed from the republic and had access to all the cis tech, and combined them and improved for 30 plus years. And that doesn't even include the vast resource advantage the empire alone has against the cis and republic combined.

@@playableelite5209 But wouldn't those same resources be available to the CIS/Republic faction? Also, the CIS doesn't need any sort of tactics, they just send in waves of waves of droids at the enemy

@@controbot2557 well you are right about the cis not needing any tactics. But the Empire does have more territory. Since in the time of the empire more systems were taken under the Empire so basicly the Empire inherited the planets from the 2 prequel factions, then got more. Same with the tech

@@playableelite5209 you mean melting down those very same old weaponery to make ties or even losing them. They truely inherited the losing tech stat.

@@playableelite5209 they probably like screw thing it old we don't need it lest make more space for this new stuff.

Kenneth Kates This would actually be a really cool video

Kenneth Kates Dew it

1. Thrawn 2. Thrawn 3. Thrawn 4. Thrawn 5. The dude who got choked for incompetence

1. Thrawn 2. Idk Palpy? 3. Pellaeon-oh wait, he’s not canon. Vader I guess... 4. Uhhhhhh Admiral Piett 5. That guy who Tarkin stopped Vader from choking

no way. The dude who got choked for incopetence was leagues beyond that guy who Tarkin stopped Vader from choking. On a serious not I dont think Palpatine or Vader were good commanders. Palpatine was a great schemer and Vader was an amazing warrior but they were not necessarily good military commanders.

The Rebels were much more well rounded than the Empire was. The difference between the two is that the Rebels had decent capital ships from Mon Cala, good cruisers and lightships, and strong fighters while the Empire heavily relied on its amazing capital ships like the Imperial Star Destroyer and Super Stary Destroyer. The Death Star is pretty useless when fighting an all-out galactic conflict considering it is more of a show of force than an efficient ship/base. It would take too long for it to reach a conflict in another system and would have to be escorted by a large fleet which would draw much of the Empire's forces away from any conflict. The Republic had the weaker capital ships and cruisers but had incredible fighter craft that could be wielded in large numbers. The focus of the Republic navy seemed to be on having superior fighters as the CIS could field 10 times as many as they could, not to mention that there were thousands of Jedi at this time who could potentially pilot and lead the assault. The CIS would form the backbone of the prequel navy as they have (estimated based on material) over 10,000 ships, many of which were part of small planetary garrisons. Just in the battle of Duro in the Clone Wars, Grievous had rallied two of the three largest CIS fleets and had an armada of over 6,000 ships that sieged down much of the Core. The Separatists ships not only outnumbered the Republic's fleet by a wide margin, but their capital ships, cruisers, and destroyers were all superior when it came to firepower and design. The CIS starfighters were also abundant and featured highly intelligent AI and were nearly on par with Jedi pilots. Not to mention the great number of Republic and CIS admirals and heroes who would fight against a group of much smaller tacticians. I think that the Prequel navy would easily destroy the OT's combined forces, though this is mostly thanks to the CIS's strong screening ships and the combination of good starfighters from both factions as well as the lack of heroes that the OT would have when compared to the Prequels.

The empire had 25,000 star destroyers- each of which were superior to any prequel era ship in capital to capital combat

@@mittens4385 laughs in droid fighters

How can the rebels defend themselves from a thousand droid pilots that are basically suicide units that dont fear death cause they are robots

The person had the low ground

Agreed

I thought his editor had forgotten his ADHD meds or something

DEATHSTARP2 Deathstar P 2 ?!

True

does anyone read pinned comments anymore...

Orangeslush 99 It's basically Empire praise and mentioning the other groups names every 5 minutes or so 😒

Rebels have superior fighter skills, but the numbers are very limited though.

I do think he neglected the Rebel Star fighter capabilities. I know they were somewhat limited, but their number was high enough to factor in enough. Plus having the Rebel capital ships as extra cannon fodder for the Death Star II/Star Destroyers is actually a good asset.

Honestly, if the Empire has the time, the Rebellion is a wonderful asset in terms of technology. Mon Calamari shielding with Star Destroyers, X-Wings and A-Wings replacing Tie Fighters, and all the spying equipment and technology the Rebellion had.

Alex Mauney Yes, imagine TIE Interceptors with hyperdrives, life support systems and advanced shielding. Hmmmmmm. Or mass produced TIE Defenders.

He mentioned it

+The Roasting Toaster thanks for the feedback, I'll pass it on (a guest editor did this video)

The Roasting Toaster the same here.

I agree

It was hilarious, but yeah maybe a bit distracting haha.

actually i distraced by that game intro i had to not look my monitor to listen you :) , idk which game is it but have really nice cinematics....

the prequels also had the malevolence which would destroy imperial fleets

Frothy Walrus in space just take Empire and Rebel tech and apply it to Republic that’s all. Also droid swarming/Escorts with Republic bombers will destroy ISDs

Sense the only real problem why the malevolence even got found out was bc the Republic had jedi if the cis and republic used a few of them along with special built fleets they could prevent all escape and communications as they wipe out fleet after fleet the problem with grievous was he was fighting a council of jedi advising with the jedi helping him his plans would go snooth as he was always over confident and cocky leading to all this problems and failures

Just unleash a B3 on them and 1000s of Stromtroopers are dead

Galen erso

Star destroyer Thrive in ship to ship combat. They would absolutely destroy any republic and Cis ship.

Glenn Quagmire Yet the Empire more advance and its ships are more armed for ship and planetary bombardment

>The empire ships are only good for spreading fear Ground wise, yeah, but space wise the Empire is essentially a moving iron curtain of turbo lasers. Give them some time to incorporate Mon Calamari shields and to begin mass producing X-Wings and B-Wings, you get a damn near impenetrable force.

Emp United Republic ships also capable of planetary bombardment. Even if they were advanced, their ships were still weak against fighters that can take it down with ease. After all, imperial ships didn't have it's own defensive point lasers.

Kenneth Kates The Imperium would just come in and stomp zerg Lol

Imperium? maybe, but reach is a halo planet, and no faction in that universe (including the flood) would be able to deal with the Zerg's hyper evolutionary virus.

SkyTech RTS perhaps but the flood and the zerg are very similar to each other getting back to the topic the zerg would probably destroy the defenses at reach at the battle of reach

Infestation exists Easy Zerg win

beast ICY Ignorant IoM fanboy never care to read the topic.

Krispy Kimson you are really right

This video was edited by a friend of his. This, presumably, was the cause for the memes.

Consular Gaming They have no knowledge of the future/past. So Emperor Palpatine wouldn't know the republic and cis, while Counsellor commands both the republic and the cis, he can use the information of where bases are and shit.

The storm Troopers would have no idea how to fight thousands of droids and the general gervious the only issue would be how do they land on the Death Star and how do they fight the thousands if not millions of troops on the Death Star only issues to be seen

Nathan Zavala The driods are actually worse then the stormtroopers.

Nathan Zavala they use those boarding craft that break through the hulls of ships👍🏻

Then just send in a metric crap ton of destroyer droids and clone commandos.

Emp United and how is that

Jerry Baklycki Palpatine started the clone wars to get the CIS supporters out of the way. If he tried to form the empire the forces that joined after CIS would have joined the rebellion. Palpatine would have lost a straight up Battle.

"You are against the Empire, I am against the The Republic. Now, the Republic has become the Empire. I accept your logic, we are on the same side." -General Kalani

Kenneth Kates You have made alot of comments

Venator is 3000 years newer and 200ish metres longer, has strong sheilds and 400 fighters, will stomp a harrower

In his match ups the ships are assumed to have the same ere tech to make it fair.

If its same tech the venator won't really be a venator

I think it would be more bringing the harrower to clone wars standards rather than making a venator to old republic standards

Which is ironic, because the death star is naught but a paperweight-- the real power lies in the X-wing squadrons and rebel corvettes!

@@yamcha8309 Well No But Actually No

Lord Yamcha rebels would be annihilated by the amount of CIS Starfighters....not to mention the Clones

I mean, I don’t see why anyone would believe in the stormtroopers who can’t hit the side of a barn from inside the barn. Also, I would think that the storm troopers are a bit less armored, 1 shot usually takes them down, and the clones can actually aim. The fighters of the rebels and the empire would be a problem for the republic and cis, but one that they could get rid of, seeing the sheer amount of vulture droids, and the skilled republic pilots. Once they get rid of them, they could easily bomb the empires big capital ships, and take out the rebel ships after that with the power of the republic and cis navy.

Your right, but if the Rebels said "Hope" 10 thousand times all the bad guys go away. Simple

Joshua Mumma Basically it’s perfect