Emporia 48-amp EV Charger Review

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We offer our full review of the Emporia 48-amp EV charger. Available for $499, the Emporia EV charger is a good unit at a very good price. Check out the video for all the details.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:38 Emporia EV charger key features
1:56 Unboxing
2:28 Installing the Emporia EV charger
3:53 The cable deep freeze test
5:51 The connector holster and Connector drop test
9:57 Cable length, thickness, and usability
10:38 Power delivery; NEMA 14-50 vs hardwiring
12:17 Using the Emporia EV charger app
14:46 The Emporia app features and Emporia energy management equipment
15:33 The Emporia EV charger cost and value
17:40 Emporia EV charger ratings
19:02 Emporia EV charger hits and misses
19:34 Is the Emporia EV charger recommended?
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@RonB2004 Жыл бұрын

I have this charger and had no idea that you could install the holster with the charger. I love the charger because it integrated with my solar to use excess solar to charge my EVs when configured with the home energy monitor.

@quesito03 Жыл бұрын

Did you get only the monitor or did you also need to get the sensors? How are you liking it for using solar to charge your car?

@suvari225 Жыл бұрын

Finally the review I waited for 10 months! I got mine in January 2022 and heavily using it since then. When I purchased I couldn’t believe the 399$ price on Amazon. I was a fan of State of Charge series of Tom and I immediately tweeted to him. He said he will review it, but I decided to buy and see as an early adaptor to Emporia charger. At that time I was desperate for a level 2 charger for my ID4, but I had to be very careful with the spending as we’ve just bought the home. And then I saw the Emporia! Boy-a-boy, what a good decision it was. I was predicting from the seriousness of the company that they will pass the UL testing. And they passed. The popularity also grew insanely over this charger. It worked flawlessly for my ID4 and Model Y. I drive 180 miles a day and charger is active almost everyday. Not a single glitch, error or difficulty I had during since the installation. I agree on the holster. It is not good and I don’t use it. I wrap the cable around the charger and protect the connector with the silicon cover they attached to it. It is as clean as day 1.

@atomsapple Жыл бұрын

I had been waiting for this review since April to see how it stacked up with the others. I was able to snag a Emporia certified refurb for less than $350 and it’s been the best value I could ever expect. After months of use, my gripes are the same here with that thick cable and awkward holster. Ultimately not a huge deal speaking that I’m plugging in once or twice at the most per week. I also have it mounted outside and believe I’m beginning to see some of the plastics begin to yellow. Happy with the unit thus far. Glad to support a small US company too.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Good to hear you agree with my complaints. Keep me updated with the connector and how it holds up over time.

@jamesengland7461 Жыл бұрын

It seems crazy that they'd already have refurbished units for sale.

@JohnCap523 Жыл бұрын

Refurbished doesn’t necessarily mean they failed, while most people think that. Refurbs can include units pulled from assembly for testing, units that get nicked or scratched, demo units, units that needed a part replaced during initial testing, etc.

@rkgsd Жыл бұрын

Therein lies the problem with plastics outdoors. Not sure the plastic Tesla charger is any more resistant to the effects of UV rays.

@gray1g 11 ай бұрын

State of Charge- with the Grizzl-E smart costing the same as the Emporia which would you recommend? It will be plugged in and used on a Jeep 4xe. Thank you!!

@aaronlane5053 Жыл бұрын

I’ve had mine installed for 2 weeks now and it does exactly what it’s supposed to do. I couldn’t be happier. It seems very well made and their customer has been very good! I would absolutely recommend this unit to anyone!

@phtofl Жыл бұрын

FINALLY! I'm one of those requesting this since I got mine (for $399) installed in my garage in February. I've really like it, and i think something that is underrated with the Emporia is its tracking capability. While I'm not familiar with the details of all EVSE"s on the market, I haven't seen reviews of one that has the tracking capability this has. It shows you like what a gas pump would show, cost, amount (kwh) and time of charge. I use this to track and compare how much power the car says it consumed vs how much the Emporia delivered. Also makes it very easy to answer the question "how much did your electric bill go up after you got your EV". I installed the Emporia Vue2 system last year, which tracks your whole house energy usage. They integrate well and are a must have for data nerds like myself. Its a nice system and glad I went with their EVSE too. I agree the hook part of the holster is somewhat silly, I don't use the holster like they show in the picture, I mounted it separately from the unit and just wind the wire over it leaving the plug hanging over the holster with plug facing down.

@berthogendoorn2133 Жыл бұрын

great charger, only issue is the holster needs to be a socket type and they are available from Amazon. Better cable than my Juicebox, same cable length.

@Havencheer2014 Жыл бұрын

I love my Emporia, have had zero issues for the past 6 months of use, at 32 amps.

@gregpochet4812 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review Tom. My electric company added this to their approved EVSE that qualify for their $125 rebate. Right now, it is $399 on Amazon. So I am getting this for $275. Can't beat that.

@barryw9473 Жыл бұрын

Tom’s back in the saddle again. Thanks! Looking forward to seeing more bidirectional EVSEs.

@shep64 Жыл бұрын

Have had my Emporia for 6 months. Works great. Installed the unit on the inside wall next to the garage door. Run the cable under the garage door (have a 2x4 with a groove cut out so door doesn’t come down on the cable). Charge my Ioniq 5 outside of the garage and appreciate the long charging cable. I kept the original holster inside of the garage so I can put the cable inside if we are away on vacation. Bought a better metal holster off of Amazon that has a cover for the end of the plug and mounted it outside of the garage. Really like the setup. Also I kept the charger at the original 40 amps which is fine for my usage (I appreciate that I can unplug it at the charger if needed). Thanks for the tremendous review. Note: the sales person at my Hyundai car dealer in May had the Emporia charger at his home too.

@robbyvielma6360 Жыл бұрын

This video came at a perfect time. Just received my Ioniq 5 a few days ago, and I am in the market for an EVSE. Thanks, Tom!

@Smidge204 Жыл бұрын

Check with your local utility to see if they have any kind of EV related incentives, both for the EVSE itself and special rates for EV charging. My utility offers a discount if I charge at certain times of night, but to qualify I needed to use one of a few models of EVSE that were compatible with their program so they could collect the data. Just something to consider that might influence your choices!

@cesartrujillo4190 Жыл бұрын

The new garage looks great. It looks like you really enjoy it. I’ve been on vacation so I need to see how many videos I’ve missed. Will binge promptly. Great pace on this video too. You really moved it along.

@gregpochet4812 Жыл бұрын

I don't care to see a review on this charger. I just want to see what Tom's garage looks like.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I have a video on the renovation coming soon!

@gregpochet4812 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Can't wait to see it. What I saw here, very promising.

@ellavsky Жыл бұрын

We already have an EVSE so didn’t get this one, but did just install the Emporia Vue energy monitoring system along with some of their smart plugs. Overall their products work great so far and helpful in trying to figure out where our energy is going. For example, figured out our tv and stereo electronics use a lot of power just sitting idle 24/7.

@rockykropp Жыл бұрын

Great review. Thank you! And nice updated garage :)

@trpblr Жыл бұрын

I have this charger and really like it. What puts it over the top for me is the long cable length and the App features. I really like that you can monitor your electricity usage and easily adjust the power levels and charging schedule.

@KennethWPonder Жыл бұрын

Agree. I have owned the emporia unit for 6 months. Love the 24 foot cord as one can mount the base in certain position in a two car garage and charge either EV without moving a car. Also the 14-50 plug option means one can easily take unit with you if move homes.

@michaelgiovanetti7454 Жыл бұрын

Does this charger work without solar panels?

@berthogendoorn2133 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tom, love the new shop!

@justinmcdonald1930 10 ай бұрын

Hi, love your channel! Just FYI - your sponsor Qmerit in my area was about 100% (2x) more expensive to use for installing an EV Charger in my garage than local companies. Qmerit was quoting me $1,599 to $1,799 for 3-4 companies. I decided to call some companies directly that advertised for installing EV Chargers - the cost was between $500 to $799. Figured that you should know what your sponsor was charging. I don't know if I'd call Qmerit a rip-off but in my market it was a rip-off.

@petebremy49 Жыл бұрын

Another great review, thanks, Tom!

@tonyb282 Жыл бұрын

I have been using this charger for about 6 months now. The charger works great. I was using it to charge my 21 chevy bolt. I am currently awaiting delivery of a 23 model y. My electrical panel allowed me to wire a 50 amp nema 14-50 outlet. The reason I bought this charger is because my electrical panel is now maxed out. Emporia has an in panel energy monitor device that can be wired to your electrical panel. With me now having 2 electric vehicles to charge along with several other hi voltage appliances , like 2 ac units, pool.pumps running at different times of the day. The energy monitoring system will work with the ev charger and lower the amperage the charger is drawing if it senses you are close to maxing out your total allowed amperage from your panel. So basically this feature will prevent your panel or outlet from catching on fire. It's cold now so I really won't be able to test it out until it gets hot out.

@pfilippone Жыл бұрын

Another happy owner here. Got mine in July 2022 on Amazon. At the time the non-UL Listed version was $399 so I went for it. Exact same parts as the $450 UL Listed model (now $499), only missing the UL certification. The electrician hard wired it, said it would be cheaper and safer. But he talked me out of getting a 60AMP circuit due to being more expensive. He was able to repurpose the 50AMP breaker for the stove since my stove is gas. So to my chagrin I'm limited to using the unit at 40AMP instead of 48. Charging my 2022 Chevy Bolt, it takes in about 9.6kwh at 40 Amps instead of 11.5kwh if using the 48AMPs . All in all, works great.

@rod2625 Жыл бұрын

Nice unit! Purchasing another holster is easy enough. Glad you reviewed this unit. Excited to learn about their V2H unit when it becomes available.

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

Do you have links to alternate holsters?

@mrrkrr Жыл бұрын

New garage is looking spiffy! One request: I love how in some of the older videos you'd walk through the ChargerRater line by line instead of briefly highlighting the columns. Would love to see that in the videos again. Looking forward to more EVSE reviews, thanks!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I used to do that. The problem is it took like 20 minutes and I had a lot of complaints that the reviews were too long.

@nishiki393 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney yes, they were, and glad to see the new format. at the end of the day we mainly just need your expert assessment & and highlighting the main pluses and minuses.

@mrrkrr Жыл бұрын

If most people prefer it that way I guess I can always hit the pause button and read it myself 🙃

@JulioVillavicencio-ru2sn 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Had this unit hardwired today using a 60A circuit. Easy app set up and works well. I’ll try the scheduling feature later this week.

@caedgewo2 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. Just ordered it from Amazon for 399.

@twospirits411 Жыл бұрын

As you promised, first review with the new garage setup was the Emporia. The pros and cons you pointed out are on point. While it is a bit more expensive due to the UL certification, I'll rather have it being certified for piece of mind. Yet it is still half price of a ChargePoint. That holster, while provided, its good to know that it is detachable. One can get better plug in ones elsewhere. I truly love that ChargeRater, and yes, as mentioned in one of your other videos, you need to create a version of it for the portable units. Speaking of the ChargeRater, I've been tracking your reviews in a spreadsheet and if I am not mistaken, the Emporia and Grizzl-E now have the highest scores of 93. Both of which were at the top of my list, but the Emporia won out in the end on the recent Prime Day discount. BTW, Your test garage is amazing. I saw a glimpse of it in the Out of Spec video so I'm looking forward to the full video of its remodeling.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Yes, but I have revised the ChargerRater now, so I'll be reviewing the older chargers again with the new ChargerRater to be fair.

@twospirits411 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney awesome to hear.

@brianl7321 6 ай бұрын

Just bought a Bolt EUV, these reviews are super helpful thank you so much!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 6 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

@bam111965 Жыл бұрын

Thanks. I've had one since July and I really like it. I agree the holster is not ideal, but it is secure. Once you drop it in, you're not going to miss and it's not going to fall out. It's just a bit fumbly getting it in and out. Also, I've found it is often better to just wrap the wire around the body and let the handle rest over the top. Because the wire is so thick, it does not fall.

@terrancewilson6349 6 ай бұрын

Bought the Emporia after watching your review Tom. Was deciding between this and the Tesla Universal, or the Tesla J1772 which is still for sale on Amazon. Very happy with my choice.

@jimsmithers962 9 ай бұрын

Thanks to your recommendation I bought the Emporia 48 amp charger. Qmerit took to long to get me a quote so I hardwired it myself (I have quite a bit of experience in home electric wiring). Including the cost of the Emporia ($428 on Amazon) I had $578 into the entire project. Qmerit's quote (when it finally came in) was $1872 plus the cost of the charger (minus the $1500 Cadillac credit) So I saved a couple hundred dollars doing it myself, and got the job done much sooner. I do want to thank you for providing such great information. I have charged my Lyriq up twice now and it works perfectly!

@nevea2be Жыл бұрын

Great review Tommy!

@sparkytas Жыл бұрын

Awesome review, I've ordered a BYD Atto 3 (Australia) and this will be my first EV ( it's due in May). I'm hoping that this charger will be available in Australia soon as I have an Emporia Vue Gen 2 home energy monitor and 10kw solar system. Thank you Tom!

@shockme66 Жыл бұрын

Hey Tom; great review. I went with the Emporia and have it mounted, just waiting for the electrician to come for the NEMA 1450 hook up later this week. As a side note I think I saw you twice at NY Pizza... Next time I'll say hello. Thanks for your review and keep up the great work on your channel.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Hey Brian, please do so!

@laloajuria4678 Жыл бұрын

just got for

@billpitman9053 Жыл бұрын

I purchased the Audel Maxicharger, quick install, excellent App...... Bill P

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I'll be reviewing that one soon.

@LifeAsDane Жыл бұрын

Just installed yesterday outside🙌 Called customer service while electrician was here due to 1 fast and 1 slow error light. Had to leave a VM. They called back from colorado 5min later and answered our question on proper power cycling of the unit

@barryw9473 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see commercial multi unit dwelling EVSEs and/or power access points tested.

@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын

Yes, I wish Tom would review an EVSE for MUDs. I am board president for a condo tower and installed a Juicebox Pro 48 for up to 11kW charging. It provides direct billing to users, multiple user accounts, economical WiFi communication, and excellent reporting. One station will support at least 5 users when setting a schedule. Consider morning, afternoon, and evening periods and 7 days for 21 time slots weekly. To accommodate more users, we plan to install a second, load balanced unit. The most common mistake for MUDs is assuming every resident will adopt an EV overnight. It will take years before MUDs need charging for 25% of ownership. Buy what you need now and budget reserve funds for the future.

@brianbeasley7270 Жыл бұрын

I believe that the extra long NEMA 14-50 plug cord does not meet code if it is attached to a GFCI breaker or the GFCI is within the unit. The code (at least use to say) that the cord length had to be restricted to 12". I could be reading this wrong or it may be superseded. Please let me know if this is not the case. NEC Code 625.17 Cords and Cables ) (A) Power Supply Cord. The cable for cord-connected equipment shall comply with all of the following: (3) Have an overall length as specified in (a) or (b): (a) When the interrupting device of the personnel protection system specified in 625.22 is located within the enclosure of the supply equipment or charging system, the power supply cord shall be no more than 300 mm (12 in.) long, (b) When the interrupting device of the personnel protection system specified in 625.22 is located at the attachment plug, or within the first 300 mm (12 in.) of the power supply cord, the overall cord length shall be a minimum of 1.8 m (6 ft) and shall be no greater than 4.6 m (15 ft).

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

That is also how I understood it. But it does have UL certification, and wouldn't if the cord ran against NEC code, right?

@brianbeasley7270 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I actually don't know how NEC code and UL certification intersect. Perhaps they had it certified as a "portable EVSE" in that configuration.

@Talonstorm Жыл бұрын

Thanks for all the charger reviews! I recently purchased my first EV, so I am definitely in the marker for a level 2 home charging unit. Any plan to review the Autel MaxiCharger?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Yes, I already have it, just need to use it a while before I do the review

@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын

Tom, thanks for excellent review. When reporting Charger-rater, please tell us why you added or subtracted points because our situations may differ.

@mrdsn189 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@jbwjr54 Жыл бұрын

very good analysis!

@dav14pawest Жыл бұрын

I see the Charge Station Pro hanging there. Did I miss your review of it? I’m waiting to see that review so I can decide if I want to have the one sitting in my garage installed. Great work as always.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

No you didn't. It's not wired yet. Doing the service upgrade necessary next month. Videos to follow.

@dav14pawest Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks, I'll wait until you give me the green light (or red light). I don't want to go through the expense if it's a piece of crap.

@cameronbrown8757 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great EVSE review as always. Also, I think there is a typo in your Warranty section of the ChargerRater chart. I think you mean "= 1YR: -5"

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Good catch!

@seanplace8192 Жыл бұрын

I've been using the Emporia EVSE since April of this year. I don't use the holster, so it has never bothered me. I also sort of like the thick insulation on the cable. It gives it more of a robust feel, and can also help prevent the cable from getting twisted up.

@raven4k998 Жыл бұрын

don't bend the shit out of your cord like he does cause that shortens the cords life by doing it

@Smidge204 Жыл бұрын

The length of the input cord is curious. National Electric Code article 625 requires the cord to be a maximum of 12 inches unless there's a "interrupting device of a listed personnel protection system" at the plug or in the cord 12 inches from the plug... and if that's the case the cord should be a minimum of 6 feet. This is why the plug cords are always so short. (The rationale is that a longer cord is at a higher risk of damage so it needs some sort of user protection.) I mean the longer cord is great but I'm curious how that jives with the code!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I reached out to Emporia and they said UL cert is using the new 2020 code and it can be up to 6'. You seem to think it's a minimum of 6', but Emporia said up to 6', (and evidently UL agreed) which is why it passed UL certification.

@Smidge204 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Wow Tom, thanks for the quick follow-up! So my understanding was indeed out of date; Thankfully I'm not an electrician, and this is exactly why I hired one to do my install and everyone else should too, heh! The latest code makes a distinction between portable and fashioned-in-place equipment. Under 625.17, portable EVSEs must have a power supply cord no longer than 12 inches, while fashioned-in-place EVSEs using a non-locking, grounded plug and receptacle connection can have a cord no greater than 6 feet, and must be installed so that the cord doesn't touch the floor when properly plugged in. (The 2023 version has identical wording for this section.) That's a radical change from the previous (2017) wording: "When [the interrupting device] is located at the attachment plug, or within the first 100 mm (12 in.) of the power-supply cord, the overall cord length shall be a minimum of 1.8 m (6 ft) and shall not be greater than 4.6 m (15 ft)." This version doesn't make a clear distinction between portable and hard-mount equipment, and this sounds like it would apply to portable units only.

@ScottDLR 5 ай бұрын

Thx for your review - it's very informative. I installed this charger and so far I only have one complaint and it's with the instructions. The instructions for hard-wiring (yes, I did my own) tell you to use 1-1/4" conduit even though the body of the unit will not accept anything bigger than 1" conduit. So if you install wiring in advance of getting the actual unit, you will be presented with a challenge upon final connection. The good news is 1" conduit is perfectly acceptable per NEC requirements and that's what you should really use. As far as the holster, it comes separate from the charger and can easily be mounted on a wall, etc, but yeah, it is not ideal. Mine hangs in the garage on a $6 hose holder and the end just points down and dangles. BTW, if you have this unit professionally installed, I suggest you get it hard wired. You get 20% faster charging and it should be cheaper to hard-wire than installing an outlet.

@CraigMatsuura Жыл бұрын

I like the drop test, would like to see a drop test after freezing. IF recommended for outdoors I think this would be a great test, it should be able to handle the outdoor temps when dropped. Maybe do a second freeze and drop it at the end just in case it does break. This might change your recommend if it broken on the first drop or any drop.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Good idea.

@billjohnson3344 Жыл бұрын

Great review as always Tom. Seems like the biggest (really only) ding is the holster. Given the heavy cable, might you suggest a different holster that would work well with this? I know there are many available, and that would solve the really only shortcoming of the unit. Curious if you have a recommendation?

@billjohnson3344 Жыл бұрын

Umm, nevermind - I see you have one linked in the video description. Thanks!

@rahularora9868 10 ай бұрын

Just ordered this for our Leaf and Model3. Thinking of buying a different holster tho!

@blindplayer1 Жыл бұрын

I installed this charger a few days ago. I agree the holster does not make sense. I do like that the app will show how many KWH's and dollars it is costing me. Not sure if it can some how access the cost per KWH for my city or it just happen to be the average that Emporia uses in its app but it calculated my cost exactly.

@juliekemp1218 Жыл бұрын

I have this charger as well and really like it. Many energy companies are listed in the app and automatically can accurately determine the cost per kwh. However, if your company is not in the app you can manually enter the information by getting it from your electronic bill, that's what I did.

@leeforspeed 11 ай бұрын

Great reviews! Will you also review the VEVOR Level 2 EV Charging Station 40A?

@gbsorenson Жыл бұрын

Trying to decide between the Emporia 48 and the Autel 50 amp. They're both currently on sale at Amazon, the Emporia is $399, Autel is $499. Autel has a better handle and holster, but the cord gets super stiff in the cold in your review. Both seem to have decent apps and will max out my Polstars AC charging at 11.5kw. At $399 I'm leaning towards the Emporia.

@dioncryer940 Жыл бұрын

When will do a Ford Charger station Pro review on their 80 Amp EV charger? I see it in the background but searched all of your videos and did not see a review. Thanks.

@guccisasha Жыл бұрын

i prefer the thick cable, and the handle holster has never caused me a problem. my other charger with thinner cable feels flimsy compared to this one. i give this 5/5 after 8 months of daily use.

@mikepaulino5044 Жыл бұрын

I've been using mine since June 2022. It is paired up with a BMW X5 45e. I have no issues with it. I will say that it is located in a heated and cooled garage . If there is a hiccup, it's always been because of an operator error.

@trevoralaine Жыл бұрын

Waiting for the Autel review. My gripes are that the Autel with the integrated holster makes it very hard to install the stiff hardwired cable to the internal connector block with the holster blocking easy access. Autel does have a remote holster model, and is feature packed The coolest looking design of them all imho.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Soon

@Jakepp235 Жыл бұрын

Another question if I want to slow charge should I just change the settings in the app toll do that with the emporia ?

@dickthompson8018 3 ай бұрын

As of 2/8/2024, the price is $399 for the standard 48Amp model., they have other options, one is with load management, so if you don’t have a lot of amperage available in your home, this can be an option. Also, it’s now UL listed.

@daves1646 Жыл бұрын

Long dongle / plug-in cord - a feature to me. I can put the NEMA 14-50 into an outside locked enclosure (secured & protected from rain and snow!) and have the cable enter the enclosure from the bottom! Props! And flexibility to go to a hardwired 11+ in the future, nice. AND .. price is currently (Jan 17) at $399 on Amazon.

@user-fu6gv8vj5t 3 ай бұрын

I own a BMWi3, 2019, would you recommend the charge point Homeflex, and do you always recommend hardwired

@newalex1970 Жыл бұрын

Great video would this charger be a over kill for my 2022 ford Escape plug in ? A bit overwhelmed one witch home charger to get . Great KZfaq channel keep up the great work !!! Alex from NJ

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

No, not at all. Yes, it can deliver more power than you're PHEV can accept, but then you're ready for your next EV that will accept more power. The can will always limit it's intake to what it can accept, so this works fine with your vehicle.

@dane9193 Жыл бұрын

Completely agree with the connector holster. I opted not to use it at all, and instead use another wall connector that the cable can also be looped around. Really it's the only thing I didn't like about the Emporia.

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

Do you have links to alternate holsters?

@elnidoelnido 7 ай бұрын

I’ve been using this charger hardwired and I actually reduced it to 32 amps as overnight charging is achieved easily. It runs the wiring much cooler from 60 amp circuit too the unit itself. Is this advantageous to the vehicle to let power hit the battery at lower amperage?

@acidrage74 9 ай бұрын

Hello Tom. I recently purchased this unit and have a question. I am going to have it hardwired in my garage. I purchased a Fisker Ocean One which, from my understanding, it has an onboard charge of 32amps max. My question is when I set up the charge, should I change the amps on the app to 32amps or put it to 48amps? My house was built in 2022 so there is no issue with not having enough juice. I also have solar but no batteries (yet). Please let me know what amp setting you would recommend. Thank you in advance.

@meg3746 Жыл бұрын

Sorry this is so off topic about this one, but can you do a review of the VW 2 in 1 EVSE? I’m torn between that one and the wall box 40 amp. I was curious if VW’s is worth it.

@azdave7177 6 ай бұрын

Im currently looking for a Level 2 charger. It would be for a PHEV with the ability to support an EV in the future. From a recommendation from my brother, he said to look at a hardwired unit so there’s one less point that can heat up, and less points for failure. I also agree with this after seeing some of the pictures you showed of melted outlets. The big question now is which of the two would you go with. I’m currently looking at the juicebox 48 and the Emporia. The Only reason I have to not get the juicebox is, I hear the app is not very good. On the other hand, the only reason to not get the Emporia is, because the max operating temperature is very close to the temperatures we see in Arizona in the summer time. These would be mounted inside of an attached garage so no exposure to the sun/elements. Lastly, do you think it’s worth getting a 48 amp versus a 40 amp charger, being that the cars that I’m looking at currently, wouldn’t be able to support the 48 amps. Thank you in advance for any input on this. @State Of Charge

@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын

Tom, please review the Siemens ConnectDER EVSE that solves so many problems. It locates an EVSE at your power meter. Many circuits breaker panels are a long distance from the garage or driveway and power meter may be much closer. It also solves the problem of insufficient panel capacity for an EVSE. Many smaller homes only have 100 amp service and capacity is already full.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I may, but the problem with that is it not allowed in many jurisdictions in the US

@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Oh, that's a shame it isn't allowed. How do we find out what jurisdictions allow/prohibit it?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

@@johnpoldo8817 you need to ask your local electrical inspector

@bum621 Жыл бұрын

Looking for a good 40A plug-in charger for my R1S. I would love to see this compared to the Lectron V-Box.

@barryw9473 Жыл бұрын

Can any apps track energy usage for more than one EV?

@franky9868 Жыл бұрын

How is this one compare to the grizzle charger? Any suggestions?

@gray1g 11 ай бұрын

So would you buy the Empria 48v or the Grizzl-e 40v for a new Jeep 4xe? Watched all the reviews but so torn!

@marb1027 Жыл бұрын

Great Review very informative, I received and install mine last week however I can’t seem to figure out how to set it up to only charge to 90% Emporia responded that they do not have that future so what is everybody doing about it ?

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney That is a great question I hope someone answers. Isn't this option required if you want the batteries in you car to last longer? I just watched a video that talks about the importance of not charging you betteries to 100%

@chadmanPA Жыл бұрын

I’ve watched a lot of these reviews. Big fan. So which EVSE’s are on top? Chargepoint Home Flex?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

That's one of them. I'll be posing a "best of 2023" video soon

@eddiealberton 11 ай бұрын

Quick question and thank you for all the reviews and insights I have found all of them so helpful as a new EV owner and proud R1S owner so I loved your reviews on that as well. But my real question I can’t find the answer 2 is can this charger load balance ???? share power with a 2nd unit on 1 breaker like the wall box or new Tesla j1772? Please comment back so I know and can make a final decision and purchase

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I think that is tge one downside of this unit. It's strange they don't support that given their focus on other battery and energy systems.

@rydahog 8 ай бұрын

I know this is an older vid. But what do you think about the EGMP reduced charging situation. I have emporia and 2 ioniq 6 cars, and am disappointed, now with 2 cars its going to take longer for me and wife to charge. Ty

@4rwayner7 Жыл бұрын

Can you plug the VW ID4 supplied charger on 240 volts.

@chaospwnzu 11 ай бұрын

Hey, I am considering getting a Emporia EV Charger and i have a couple questions. I have a 240V, 50A. The charger will be plugged into an 240V outlet, so the highest amps it can deliver will be 40A. My car doesn’t really require a 40A, can I adjust it on the emporia app to deliver 32 amps or even 24 amps just so I can go easier on the circuit breaker? And will I save money on my electricity bill if I lower my delivery amp to 32 or 24 amps even if I have a 50 amps on my circuit breaker?

@samsonnenschein6923 10 ай бұрын

Excellent review and I love the unit too but I think you missed the most important problem with any EVSE installation. That is load management. I think most of these chargers are self-installed and the owner does his own load management but if you get an electrician involved, I think the load management issue will surprise you. First, an Electrical engineer must certify the existing load and sign off ($500) that the EVSE will not exceed the 125% rating of the power supply from the utility. Then they will force you to take a load management solution like the ECC-12 ($1000) The Emporia Cue System really helps in this scenario as it only adds $85 to control the Load Management problem. This Is what really gives the Emporia Top spot.

@blackhatfreak 7 ай бұрын

If you can follow instructions then you don't need an electrician.

@kng128 Ай бұрын

Can the maximum output current be adjusted down from maximum using dip switches or a potentiometer like GrizzlE or Juicebox?

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney the review said not internal jumpers. You can do it in the app.

@rockykropp Жыл бұрын

Do you keep a running / latest chart of Chargers you’ve evaluated, ie latest and greatest of the ‘best’ chargers?

@jorgesmith2000 Жыл бұрын

How does the Tesla wall connector stack up after recent firmware updates?

@vb7guy 10 ай бұрын

My Qmerit installer used Gauge 6 wire with 50Amp breaker. Now that i'm hardwiring my charger, should i upgrade the breaker with 60Amp and will that work with 6 gauge wire to handle 60Amp load? or should is stick with 50Amp breaker. my goal is to pull max 48amp by hardwiring it. my chevy bolt EUV will not be maxing that load. Also Qmerit installer came with shorter cable so he had to put a junction box and I'm afraid the junction maybe another chocking point. Any recommendations?

@emblemboy 10 ай бұрын

If it's a 6awg THHN wire, that should be fine for 48A. 6awg is rated for 65A, which derated to 52A. If it's a Romex 6/3, then that wouldn't work as that is only rated for 55A, which derates to 44A

@pcpbonneville6236 Жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm in the process of getting an EV, have placed orders for a few and will take the first one that comes in and will cancel the rest. Having said that do you have a summary of all the EVSEs you have reviewed? I have watched the reviews but realized to late to create a comparison chart?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I'm working on that, Not done yet but: evchargingstations.com/

@pcpbonneville6236 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thank-you for the reply and the link.

@ChadSmithakaCCG Жыл бұрын

Purchased mine from Amazon on March 11, 2023 for $399.00 to charge my Model 3 Long Range. Very pleased with the unit so far. I decided to stay with the included NEMA 14-50 plug and have limited the charge rate to 24Amps even though I could safely charge at 40Amps. Someone correct me if I am wrong but my thinking is you should charge the vehicle at the slowest rate possible to achieve the desired range in the timeframe allowed. Again, my thinking is, this would have the least impact on the overall lifespan of the batteries. If this is hogwash and there is no difference (in terms of battery health) in charging at 24A vs 40A, please let me know.

@emblemboy 10 ай бұрын

I don't believe AC charging (home charging up to 48A, 11.5Kw) makes any impact on battery. It's DC supercharging that you ideally want to minimize as that's charging upwards of 50Kw+

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney. Tom?

@michaelgiovanetti7454 Жыл бұрын

Does anybody know do you have to have Solar or can you hook this to line

@tomcrutchfield2999 Жыл бұрын

My 2023 Ford XLT Lightning arrived last week, so ordered my Emporia 48-amp charger (based on your review). Hope to have it installed next week. Ford charged me $500 for the basic 30-Amp charger that was suppose to be included with the Lightning. Plan on returning it and get a replacement. Would appreciate your suggestions on what would be an equivalent portable charger. Thanks Tom.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

Personally, I'd keep the Ford Mobile charger, it's a VERY good portable unit. The other dual-voltage chargers from 3rd parties aren't as good. You can save a few bucks, but you will have an inferior product. It used to come standard, but not anymore. Now it's a $500 option as you see.

@tomcrutchfield2999 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thanks for the reply Tom. I'll take your advice and keep it.

@Jakepp235 Жыл бұрын

Just found your channel subscribed Question for you please What’s the difference between a nema 14-50 and 14-50R ? Also would you have a link for one I could buy to support your channel with the face plate and junction box (if I’m saying that right ) ?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

R just stands for receptacle, so there is no difference

@Jakepp235 Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 😊

@MrFoxfire510 Жыл бұрын

How does this unit perform in the automatic restart test say during a power outage or brief down of power.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

It works fine after a power outage and restarts

@donaldtank Жыл бұрын

If you live in apartment complex with a one car garage there is only 220 v outlet in the garage would you get a electric vehicle to use

@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын

YES, absolutely !

@JimHassey 7 ай бұрын

This Emporia charger vs. the Tesla Universal charger(/converter) which one scores higher in the chargerator.

@CreepyCharlie Жыл бұрын

I’ve watched every review you put out, and bought this unit a month ago when I took delivery of our Bolt EUV. Qmerit is going to hardwire in two days. In an effort to help my Q install it, I took the face off (be very careful and gently disconnect that very fine connector for the led’s on the face!) and removed the 14-50 plug. I wish they could have sold it to me without the plug and saved me some $$, it seems like an extra stout plug/ wire, and not cheap! Anyway, not looking forward ( Mr. Qmerit will likely do it) reinstalling the face as it will have to be done by feel once hard wired as the screws all go in from the back. That cable is super thick, and I was wondering how it would do in your freeze test (live in upstate NY) and was surprised it seemed to do so well. I too, am not a fan of the holster, may just get a hose rack from the Depot and coil it up on that. Sooner or later the cover will get lost and then what? Anywho, I agree, the value seems to be there, but I do wish they made it out of metal like the Grizzly.

@dwgar1322 Жыл бұрын

Can you pigtail a level 2 home charging circuit or should it be dedicated to one unit?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

It really should be dedicated to one unit, but speak to your electrician, they can advise you properly on the code where you live as well as doing things safely.

@viplav76 7 ай бұрын

Does this handle disruption in power?

@HytelGrp Жыл бұрын

Hi Tom, How do you arrive at those total numbers? I didn't see how you arrived at 18 for the first column (ditto for the other rows). I disagree with scoring for dip switches vs. the App. Switches will be hard to change (disassembly) vs. a few clicks in an App. It is not my show, but I would reverse the 2 and give higher to the app (or maybe a 3 if it has an option both in-case someone is App challenged).

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

I don't like the app-based amperage settings because I have had followers tell me they inadvertently changed it and overloaded their circuits. For me, it's a safety thing. Once you set up your charger, there's very little reason to need to change the amperage setting so setting it internally shouldn't be a problem. I would probably give it an extra point if there were both, with the internal dip switch controlling the maximum output so you couldn't overload the circuit by mistake. If you look at the bottom of the scorecard, you'll see each category starts out with 15 pts, then add/subtract the points scored.

@phtofl Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney you can only change the setting during initial setup though? I understand the concern, but its not 'easy' to accidentally just go in and change the power setting. Mine is only set to 24amps since i have it on a 30amp circuit, never felt i was at risk of accidentally changing it.

@HytelGrp Жыл бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney I see. Thank-you for the explanation of the ratings.

@ManfredvonHolstein Жыл бұрын

I see your point but it is actually a plus. If you want to set a limit to the amperage that is below what your circuit is capable of, it is very easy to do so with the app. No other chargers allows you to do this. I use this a lot. The fact is that everyone should just install a 48A capable circuit in the first place. There is no point in being stingy on this. EVs are here to stay, and the fastest and safest infrastructure is paramount.

@markhovis8033 Жыл бұрын

This may also be the cheapest unit capable of charging (back to $399) with excess solar generation ($529), though its method of putting CT clamps on all your major currents is a bit ugly. That probably isn't required for the EVSE, though at least one CT clamp will have to be run from the EVSE to the panel. Looking forward to State of Charge doing a solar review. Wallbox , SolarEdge, Emporia, Myenergi, Indra, and soon Tesla. ChargeHQ to be used with any smart EVSE looks interesting. Some of them are stepping up with bi-directional chargers coming in 2024. You are gonna be busy, Tom.

@GregHassler Жыл бұрын

I have the Emporia home energy monitor already. This unit looks good but it's huge. I wish they could make it smaller.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Жыл бұрын

It's actually not that big. About average size compared to the 30+ units I have here

@markhovis8033 Жыл бұрын

Another issue coming with those buying cheaper units is the repair of the J1772 handle. On the one hand, we have the same problem of uncertified work and inferior components. On the other hand, is the bad press EVs will get by trashing a $500+ investment for a $100 repair. I guess I come from a rural culture that doesn't discount DIY as long as you know what you are doing. The rural DIY culture came from a distance from a qualified repair center. This will inevitably hit the J1772 handle. I personally have encountered a broken handle, and so have others if it is part of the testing. Most J1772 handles consist of a base body, rubber grip, two transistors, plastic clamp, spring, and 5 connectors that require a robust crimp tool. Generally speaking, it's gonna be a cracked body handle, locking clip, or the two transistors. We need a solution. Currently replacing the handle and chord is probably the safest.

@fmaz1952 Жыл бұрын

Note that if you live in New-Brunswick, Canada, the Emporia Level2 charger is NOT eligible to the provincial rebate as it doesn't meet the "Network connected using open source protocol" criteria.

@be-kind00 Ай бұрын

What is that?

@Blind_of_Colour Жыл бұрын

I was pretty enthused by this device based on your review and also based on the associated home power management devices and their considerable and flexible range of abilities. What turned me off was finding that the associated Emporia monitors only have a 1 year warranty. If I am counting on the energy monitor to ensure the service entrance of my home does not get overloaded then I'd look for even greater reliability than the 3 year warranty on the Emporia EV charger, on the principle that I do not want to inherently rely of the operation of the whole home protection breaker on the service entrance knowing that at times I will drive my service entrance to an excess load if the Emporia power management device is not functioning correctly. Or does the home management device guaranteed to fail safe meaning you are assured of being unable to charge your car until it is fixed/replaced? Either way I want better power management reliability than these guys are offering. The ostensibly less sophisticated device from EVDuty costs over twice as much but has been on the market for years and offers 3 times the warranty period. Mind you the associated EVDuty charger is limited to a mere 30 amps (but has 5 yr warranty) and the charging cable may not be as flexible in winter? I've heard complaints on that but I'm not sure which is worse on that score: EvDuty or Emporia.