The New Grizzl-E Smart EV Charger. Built To Last With Improved Features And An All New App

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I fully test out the improved Grizzl-E Smart from United Chargers. It's a 40-amp smart charger that can be linked to the new Grizzl-E Connect app.
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Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:02 Unboxing
04:02 Mounting the Grizzl-E to the wall
06:38 The Grizzl-E Smart key features
08:07 The cable deep freeze test
11:30 The frozen connector drop test
12:48 The cold temperature charging test
14:28 The extreme heat test
17:22 Comparing the new Grizzl-e Smart to the old one
22:47 The automatic restart test
24:00 The new Grizzl-E Connect app
27:49 The Grizzl-E's robust construction and water submersion test
32:11 A look inside the Grizzl-E; how to hardwire it and reduce the power output
38:00 Thought on the new Grizzl-E
41:07 The ChargerRater scorecard
45:07 Scoring
47:45 The Grizzl-E's hits and misses
49:21 Outro
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@beachbumis 4 ай бұрын

I purchased the classic model just under 3 years ago. Works like a champ other than needing a reboot every once in a while.

@rockykropp 3 ай бұрын

Another great review. Thank you!

@mineau9728 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the review. I bought the old smart unit when it first came out. I asked about the upgrade program a week ago. Just an FYI, the cost was quoted at $150 plus any shipping costs. For those costs, I may just purchase a new/different charger. But I want to emphasize, I have LOVED the basic functionality of my Grizzl-E. I've simply not used the smart feature since I purchased the unit. I had been waiting for them to "fix" their connectivity solutions, but no solution ever came. Still not ruling out Grizzl-E Smart as an option if i need a smart solution since my current unit has been bullet-proof.

@bigbert2508 4 ай бұрын

Impressive water test!

@ArielBatista 4 ай бұрын

Great job thanks for the review. I have a classic Grizzl-e for 3 years now. And I have had no issues with it. It's charged all the EVs that I have had. Currently we have a leaf, and an ID.4. And when my daughter comes home from school she plugs in her Bolt. Can't say much more than it's a very good buy for me.

@thewaterboy2013 4 ай бұрын

Now they just need a smart version of the Duo :) Thanks for the updated review, Tom!

@e-care-books9867 4 ай бұрын

Tomas! Gracias!

@FreedomToRoam86 4 ай бұрын

Dude, I’m still jealous of your garage! Great review, as always.

@guywhatley3219 2 ай бұрын

I own the original smart and for the most part it worked very well, did not use the app much, however they are offering an upgrade to the new hardware and app so I did that. I actually purchased the old clipper creek / enphase side mount holster for $19 so handle does not stick out so far. Love that and I think for holsters the side mount is wonderful.

@Necrotron 4 ай бұрын

The coiling issue isn't limited to the deep freeze test. I have the classic model in South Florida and it stiffly coils up in my garage too

@junkerzn7312 2 ай бұрын

I have the non-wifi version of this unit, roughly 2 years old now, that has operated perfectly. No glitches at all. As far as storing the cable goes, not sure why you would want to hang the cable over the charger. Just buy a Garden Hose Holder to coil the cable onto, yes? $20. Also, I don't bother unwinding the cable per-say, I just let it uncoil like a spring as I pull it off the hose holder, and only unwind one loop near the nozzle to plug it into the car. And later just gently coax it back into its original coil after unplugging to return it. In anycase, I really like the build quality of the charger, that's why I got it. It can really stand up to the elements.

@boomerbits2297 4 ай бұрын

We feel for you folks in the north. The cold weather test is useless to us thank goodness. ( Central Florida) However the water test might be important for folks who live on the coast here! Our evse is in our carport. It gets nice and toasty here in the summer and is exposed to high humidity for most of the year. My old trusty Aeroenvironment is still plugging along. Had it with my Volt and now using it on my Bolt

@rhman1660 3 ай бұрын

I agree 48A or more would be nice. I have 3 classic models and have never been disappointed. and am currently looking for a 48A model. I will watch a few more of your reviews to help with my decision.

@dougabbott8261 4 ай бұрын

The install of the previous Grizzl-e model I noticed the input cord was about a foot short to be able to install on a stud. Too stiff to mount to the electrical box stud and too short to make it over to the next one. I ended up installing a piece of plywood to bridge the two studs so I could install it .

@bobstevenson4396 4 ай бұрын

-14F (-26C) is not necessarily that cold, as of this moment the temperature in Dawson city Yukon is -38C going to down to -42C (-44F), the temperature in Yellowknife NWT is -39C. The Yukon utilizes FLO 50kWh DC public chargers throughout and Yellowknife has recently commissioned FLO 100kWh chargers. According to PlugShare all the DC chargers in Fairbanks & Denali Alaska, all of the Yukon and all of the NWT are FLO 50’s & 100’s and appear to be quite reliable. The closest Tesla 250kWh supercharger to Dawson is 2,150 kms (1,335 miles) south in Prince George BC, and the closest Tesla 250kWh DC super charger to Yellowknife is 1,450kms (900 miles) south in Edmonton AB. Having lived in the far north of Canada and witnessing temperatures down to the -50’s it takes a very special charge cable to be flexible at those temperatures and i doubt any heavy 150kWh or higher capable cable can be manhandled easily.

@BeckerGOP 4 ай бұрын

I bought this exact model in November 2023. I'm as happy as can be.

@MichaelLargent 2 ай бұрын

How is the Wifi and app features treating you?

@BeckerGOP 2 ай бұрын

@@MichaelLargent The app is slow and the wifi has been problematic twice forcing me to power the unit off/on.

@frankcoffey 4 ай бұрын

Very industrial looking box. It looks like they used an off the shelf project box. That would be fine with me but for some customers style matters. I wonder if there will be a NACS cable available or a NACS version.

@MegaSn0wb0ardJunkie 3 ай бұрын

Hey Tom, I have been looking into getting an Autel or Chargepoint Home Flex for my setup at home. I have a NEMA 14-50 outdoor outlet on the side of my garage and was looking at a few other budget friendly EV chargers. There is one I saw that is priced decently, has decent ratings but would love to see it in reviewed or was curious if you have any experience with it. It is the Autobot Home EV Charger 14-50 (app or RFID). I like the RF/App features and has a similar holster to the Autel or CP unit and it is certified. Thanks for the awesome videos - Aaron

@ChristianBehnke 4 ай бұрын

I have the original version and don't have issues with the cable stiffness or connector quality, certainly durable! I just wish it had the newer holster for managing the cable, I might buy the upgrade. The device itself has been reliable for charging, never had any issues or network drops, but the ChargeLab app leaves a lot to desired, and I had high hopes for the "open" nature of their approach.

@JorgTheElder 4 ай бұрын

Would love to see more companies to upgrades. I know it is not always possible, but it is great when you can return the old hardware for a discount on the new hardware.

@ericnewton5720 4 ай бұрын

Credit on old hardware is hard to justify as a business expense. But it certainly goes a long way in customer loyalty dept.

@patrickmckowen2999 3 ай бұрын

As soon as I seen the frozen cable, in Canada, that's a no go. Even my much cheaper unit i have now has a better cable for cold. Being a Canadian company it is a sad cable. Cheers 14:22

@integrase235 4 ай бұрын

I just picked one of these up based on this video and the Grizzl-E reputation. The wifi setup requires there to be a separate 2.4-GHz band, which held me up for a bit. But, after I changed my wifi settings, it connected and works well. I do agree that the app could use some more data (and graphing of data). But, otherwise a great deal for the price!

@michael.sierra 3 ай бұрын

A $400 device that can only connect to 2.4Ghz WiFi? lol. Definitely something that should be mentioned in the video. I find this acceptable for my $10 smart light bulbs but not for something at this price. I wonder if they did that because the metal case affects the WiFi signal negatively and 2.4GHz can push through a bit better than 5GHz?

@ERIFNOMI 3 ай бұрын

@@michael.sierra It's 2.4GHz only because it's just an ESP32 handling the smart side. While espressif does have a variant of the ESP32 that can do 5GHz, it's uncommon. When you're pulling stuff off the shelf, you don't source the rare variant that no one else uses. Most of your "smart" devices are built like this. The manufacturer isn't getting into the nitty gritty details, they're pulling an off the shelf microcontroller that already handles the I/O and slapping it in their product. I had the V1 smart Grizzl-E but returned it because they weren't OCPP compliant like they claimed, which is why the smart features didn't work with other services correctly. I saw the jellybean ESP32 hanging off the charger's mainboard. I got the non-smart version to replace it because hardware wise, it seemed like a competent charger, just no reason to pay for the smart version when it doesn't work. I cracked it open and while I didn't go through any effort tracing anything and I didn't have them both at the same time, it looks like the exact same mainboard they just left off the ESP32 and maybe some power supply side components that would feed it. Though it shouldn't need a separate SSID to work. That's a network issue, not a client device issue. It can't even see the 5GHz network.

@MichaelLargent 2 ай бұрын

@@michael.sierra 5gz definitely has issues penetrating metal. I'm certain that wouldn't work here.

@herbfst 4 ай бұрын

When are we going to see their Kodiak 25kw charger in the wild or tested by you?

@LennyMM 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for your informative videos, but I'm confused. Does this charger or the Tesla Gen 3, or any other charger allow for control of off peak hour charging from the charger itself rather than from the car? To me this is the minimum for a charger to be called "smart." Please cover this topic.

@eddieluo4528 2 ай бұрын

In your future reviews, I would love to see a cable durability test by running over the cable with a vehicle. The cables are long accidents happens. Although mostly preventable, not all family members will properly recoil the heavy cable when done charging.

@MichaelLargent 2 ай бұрын

So I want this model but I'm seeing reviews of WiFi issues and app issues. Are these just with the old model or is this still affecting the newer version? I'm between this and the Emporia, but having a plastic device outside that is likely to fade just doesn't sound like a great option. I also prefer the cable and holster of this model, not to mention the build. Any thoughts or experience here?

@barryw9473 4 ай бұрын

Agree 40 amps is good for 95% of people, even people with large SUV or pickup EV. Sure, 48 amps is best, assuming you can put in a 60 amp circuit. Thanks so much for review. I charge my XC40 Recharge with a 24 amp station (shared via Neocharge with my clothes dryer on a 30 amp circuit) and it works fine for my use case.

@PeaceChanel 4 ай бұрын

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@rizulli 4 ай бұрын

Minor comment - you mention that the lock on the holster was a new feature. It is on our Classic model with the standard holster from 2-3 years ago.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

I didn't say it was new, I've had these since they first came out 4-5 years ago and the lock was always available

@rizulli 4 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney fair enough, I must have misheard

@benderbalsam7066 4 ай бұрын

Great review! Do you have any concerns about water sitting in the channel between the outer casing and the internal components when it comes to freezing and thawing? Could water freezing in that channel deform the cover creating gaps at the rubber seal?

@TechnicalLee 4 ай бұрын

Probably. But those areas may not fill up from just rain.

@fjalics 4 ай бұрын

Tom, please please please talk about whether a charger is suitable not just for home use, but also Air B&B, Appartment or Hotel use where the owner of the property might want to charge for the electricity.

@ericnewton5720 4 ай бұрын

That would be a great category to test

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

I will make a video on this at some point this year, I promise.

@Paul-cj1wb 4 ай бұрын

Tom, have you seen the Kyle Connor video regarding the charging curve of the Cybertruck yet? On their graphs page, they are missing the Lucid Air because apparently they never logged it's charging curve or 70mph range tests. Since you're friends with him and your two videos on both the charging and 70mph tests are so detailed, perhaps you should reach out to Kyle to let him know you have both logged in your videos so they can add it to their graph. Just a thought.

@rustydomino 4 ай бұрын

I got their smart charger a few years ago - the smart features never performed to my satisfaction. once I turned off the wifi and just ran it as a dumb charger I was much happier. they truly make a great dumb charger.

@sakethsmiles 3 ай бұрын

What do you guys suggest this or Autel Maxi charger lite(40AMP). There is a 40$ difference in amazon. Trying to see which one to choose

@southernadornedkreationz1049 16 күн бұрын

how do you like the BMW Wall box charger.

@troydavis5477 3 ай бұрын

Like to see if you can do a review on VEVOR Level 2 EV Charging Station 48A Home Electric Vehicle Charger NEMA6-50

@ericnewton5720 4 ай бұрын

The best cold weather cord hanger: an 18” tireless rim. Lol

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Or one that's 22.5": kzfaq.infomhrt5ptTPR8

@marcfontana1454 4 ай бұрын

I bought my Grizzl-E Smart in January 2023 so it looks like it would qualify for the hardware upgrade. It cost $475 on Amazon back then. I use ChargeLab to check charging status. It's a terrible App and I look forward to a better app. Does United cover the shipping cost? Do you have to ship the whole thing ( including the long cable) ?I can live with my other charging station for a few days (a 12-yr Blink). It only good for 30A, fine for my 2011 Nissan leaf, but not the fastest for my new 2024 Hyundai Kona electric. Thank You Tom for great reviews. If it wasn't for hearing about the upgrade from you I wouldn't have known about it

@marcfontana1454 4 ай бұрын

OK, I just got off the phone with United Chargers support. They want you to ship the whole thing including the input and output cables, basically the whole thing except for the mounting bracket. They recommend that you submit a tech support request form online BEFORE you ship the unit in order to get an RMA number which they want you to include on the Shipping Label. They don't pay for shipping. Depending on how you ship it, it could cost ~ $40-$60 each way (for me from California), It weighs ~ 21 lbs so it is probably going to cost around $80-$120 for shipping if you qualify for the 'free' upgrade. Uhmm... I'll have to think about this one before I decide if it is worth for me to pay for the shipping to get a better app that doesn't really change the devices performance.

@radioboss5911 14 күн бұрын

don't know if true but someone in ca. says all tell naps to ccs stations open to all cars not just ford, and rivian??????

@45NUTS_PART_DEUX 4 ай бұрын

My beef about EV changers is they integrate with a whole house generator , that allows the transfer switch disable the charger when overload condition appears . i live in rural area were the power goes out on the average of 4hrs to several days a year .

@JohnRoss1 4 ай бұрын

If you don't have enough capacity to cover the EVSE can't you put it on an unprotected circuit? Probably cheaper to do that than buying more capacity. Unless you use electric heat, water pumps or AC you don't need very much power to keep a house running.

@45NUTS_PART_DEUX 4 ай бұрын

@@JohnRoss1 I am sure some EV charges have hard wired remote activation ability . , my Generac transfer switch has the ability to disable up to 4 items control voltage not overload the generator , it cost me 10K for a 20Kw generator and transfer switch. My neighbors got 16Kw generator ,

@roncarguy6361 3 ай бұрын

Hi Tom. While looking at options to eventually replace my Siemens Versi-Charge, I noticed that "Dumb" EVSE are illegal since 2021. Is that true? Is it required that any wall mounted EVSE must need a smart phone and an app to operate the unit. By "dumb", I mean the unit can be operated from a switch or button on the unit itself like the Siemens. I personally don't like the idea of depending on the " mobile phone service" to charge my car.

@junkerzn7312 2 ай бұрын

Huh? No, non-internet/non-app EVSEs are not illegal. Nor is there any need for a switch or a button. A modern EVSE communicates with the vehicle over the CP wire on the charging connector and does everything automatically. You just plug it in, whether wifi-connected or not. You might be thinking of "dumb" in the really old-fashioned sense before modern regulatory requirements came into being. Basically the regulatory equirements for EVSEs just come down to: * A temperature sensor is required to be integrated into the nozzle, EVSE is required to shut-off charging if the nozzle gets too hot. (very old EVSEs didn't have the temperature sensor). * The EVSE's contactor must not be closed without a positive handshake with the car. * And I think a ground-fault test / ground-fault detection is also required, but don't quote me. That's it. -Matt

@brianzak13 3 ай бұрын

I'm curious why there doesn't seem to be any EVSEs with cables longer than 24ft. I don't have home charging, but charge by my sister nearby and would love a 50 footer. By the way, she's cool with it. I'm not that much of a mooch.

@MichaelLargent 2 ай бұрын

I suspect voltage drop or something related.

@pasoroblesbruce7370 4 ай бұрын

Which adapter do you recommend for your bolt to Tesla etc charging stations?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Destination chargers or Superchargers?

@pasoroblesbruce7370 4 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney adapter for all?

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

@pasoroblesbruce7370 There's no such thing.

@user-id3qx9xf7z 2 ай бұрын

Been watching your reviews for months, I'm ready to buy a unit, My question is I want a 40 amp unit no frills just plug and charge

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ай бұрын

The basic Grizzl-E Classic is a great option

@user-id3qx9xf7z Ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Thank you for your reply. Amazon has them on sale for 399.00

@user-id3qx9xf7z Ай бұрын

Mistake on sale for 319.00

@jmoro1242 4 ай бұрын

Whats the best charging speed for battery longevity.

@GregHassler 4 ай бұрын

Doesn't matter at L2 speeds, AC charging isn't going to hurt your battery.

@steffenfrkjr1424 4 ай бұрын

Just hard wire the Ethernet in to the charger :-) Godt that with mine. (Autel)

@raitchison 4 ай бұрын

I have heard good things about Grizzl-E EVSEs but IMO it's pretty inexcusable to release a _new_ Smart EVSE these days that doesn't support 5Ghz Wi-Fi. Granted there are no EVSEs out right now that I'm aware of that do but with how ridiculously crowded the 2.4Ghz spectrum is in suburban and urban environments this is an important feature to leave out, especially since doing so only saves the company a few bucks per unit.

@nihilnobody3011 4 ай бұрын

WiFi signals go better through walls and other obstacles than in the 5GHz band. Which is also awfully crowded, even in suburbia (I see at least 15 networks around my home). That is why 2.4GHz is still used a lot.

@raitchison 3 ай бұрын

@@nihilnobody3011Disagree, there are only 12 2.4Ghz channels and only 3 that don't overlap. Compared to more than 150 5Ghz channels including 24 non-overlapping channels. My charger is located on the outside of my detached garage and standing right next to it I have a strong uncongested signal to my APs with 5Ghz WiFi but my neighbors networks are blasting all over the 2.4Ghz spectrum so my JuiceBox frequently can't talk to my AP. There's really no disadvantage offering both, well except that the device maker can save a few bucks per unit if they use a 2.4Ghz only chip instead of a dual band chip.

@TechnicalLee 4 ай бұрын

I think you should have given it the -1 for the cable stiffness like you originally said. That honestly looked pretty bad. Definitely below average.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

I was debating that with myself. I went with what I did because it wasn't too difficult to use even though it was stiff. Ultimately, the point of the test is to see how difficult/easy the cable is to use in the cold. But I see your point, it could have received the -1 and I wouldn't have felt that I was being unfair. That's partly why I average in my personal score at the end.

@bhmbill 4 ай бұрын

The Tesla universal charger cable was tested at -11 F while this one was -22F, then I think you graded its pliability too harshly, Giving the Tesla cable 2 points and this one 0 points, even though this one was still easy to maneuver and pull. Additionally you dinged it twice for being a 40 amp unit once for value and once for power. It's $200 cheaper than the Tesla charger. I would sleep better with a 40 amp unit over a 48 amp unit living in an older home.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

The cables are put in the same freezer for 24 hours. The average temperature in there is -15F. The compressor will turn on/off to maintain an average temperature, so depending when I open the freezer it could have a slight variation, but overall, they are in the same conditions for 24 hours.

@adamchalom3872 4 ай бұрын

Did I miss where you disclosed at the top that they sponsor the Batteries Included podcast? I am not doubting your standard objectivity, but that kind of disclosure is recommended to avoid suspicion. Another useful review!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

I didn't, perhaps I should - I didn't even think about that. I don't accept advertising dollars for State Of Charge from charging equipment manufacturers, but Batteries Included does - and so does InsideEVs for that matter, where I'm a senior editor and the argument could be made that I benefit from those advertising dollars in some way also. I would hope my followers know that I'm not influenced by that at all. I suppose that's hard to believe today with everyone selling out for a buck. That's just not me. I'll always offer honest reviews.

@adamchalom3872 4 ай бұрын

I have never doubted your honesty and objectivity in your reviews, and you do a good job of highlighting when you recommend "a professional installer like Qmerit" that Qmerit sponsors your channel. Your growing EV YouTubing empire just makes it a bit more complicated. Keep up the great work! @@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney

@bigbert2508 3 ай бұрын

Funny how you talk about the new longer input cord but the one they sell to the public is only 14” per united chargers….a little misleading on their part that they sent you a different cord…..

@kelindrawn 4 ай бұрын

Why is the Ford charger so huge?

@adamchalom3872 4 ай бұрын

80 amp and bidirectional (can draw from car/truck battery to power the house with additional equipment not visible).

@kelindrawn 4 ай бұрын

@@adamchalom3872 Oh, ok! Thanks!

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Adam explained it, but honestly, it doesn't have to be that large. I would like to see better packaging.

@jameshancock 4 ай бұрын

1. Waterproof rating means nothing if it plugs in to an indoor NEMA plug. 2. NEMA is unsafe to use for charging. They’re designed for 60% duty cycle and are well documented to melt when used for repeated charging.

@Necrotron 4 ай бұрын

Tom knows this. He has frequently advised people to hardwire their units.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Why do you assume that's an indoor NEMA plug? Plenty of people have them installed outside in weatherproof outlets. Yes, I know about the issues some (not all) NEMA 14-50 outlets have, particularly the cheap Leviton ones.

@jameshancock 4 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney The IEC has specific requirements for 240V outdoor receptacles. Every 240V plug I've ever seen isn't properly weather protected (and costs hundreds of dollars to do so because there's no ground reference on 240V in the US because the center tap is neutral, not one of the hot legs like the rest of the world). In any event, they shouldn't even be allowed to sell these with a NEMA plug on it at all, and no one should be recommending any charger that plugs in with NEMA. It's a temporary usage case, and the cars should be derating if you use their included chargers that use NEMA and cycling AMP draw so that they also don't melt the connectors.

@jameshancock 4 ай бұрын

@@EpicDrew15 Indeed. I'm talking about 40 amps at 100% duty cycle on a 60 amp NEMA. It will melt. It's just a matter of how long it takes. Especially outside in sunlight and/or high temperators even if properly enclosed in a NEMA 4R box. This is a disaster waiting to happen. Not sure how the IEC hasn't closed this loophole yet.

@GregHassler 4 ай бұрын

@@jameshancockthe NEMA 14-50 and 6-50 both have ground pins. The plugs that had a neutral and no ground are all obsolete, they did away with them many years ago.

@kevinjacobs5235 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunate that the new app doesn't work with their own (version 1) charger.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Right. You can have the older model updated, though.

@kevinjacobs5235 4 ай бұрын

@@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney Ah, I missed that. I'll reach out to support and see if they can update mine. Thanks for the great reviews!

@fred6464 4 ай бұрын

I purchased the previous smart version and will never trust your reviews again. First the antenna is encased in a metal box which blocks the signal. Remove the cover and the signal strength goes up exponentially. Second, the charger would randomly fail to charge and require the box to be powered totally down and back up to function again. They would blame it on poor Wi-Fi, but after running with the door off and it continue to do it they blamed it on needing an update. I have a complete email chain and videos to back up my claims. You really let your viewers (at least me) down with the last review.

@restotool 4 ай бұрын

Did you develop the chargerator scoring system? If you did then your personal score should be identical to that. No reason to have two scoring systems at all. Keep the system completely unbiased. Right now its doesn't seem to be. And power sharing is not going to have an effect on the mass market for a VERY LONG time. Yes, there are a couple households that have more than one EV but they are MASSIVE outliers at this point in time. Manufacturers have no reason to put features in an EVSE that are so highly unlikely to be utilized while increasing the cost, in turn steering consumers to less expensive options that have only the features they will actually need. Maybe down the road when a MUCH higher parentage of households actually own an EV at all, it will make sense financially to add this feature. As of a March 2023 Gallup poll, only 4% of households owned an EV in the US. Please stop complaining about power sharing when it is virtually a non factor for EVSE manufacturers at this point in time. Just say "there is no power sharing so no points lost, but none gained" and move on. I think you are scoring the category correctly but you are constantly complaining about it for some reason I just cannot figure out. Eventually it will become a factor for enough consumers and therefore manufacturers, but that time is still long into the future. Again, as of a March 2023 Gallup poll, only 4% of households owned an EV in the US. I am not sure how many out of that percentage owned 2 EV's, but I would bet it was ASTRONOMICALLY TINY.

@StateOfChargeWithTomMoloughney 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment, but you're definitely mistaken about the need for units that power share. I get 3-4 emails every week from property managers who are looking for a low-cost charging solution to install 6-10 chargers that can all powershare because they have limited capacity and want to accommodate charging for multiple vehicles. I also get them from individuals who want to charge two or three EVs from one 60-amp circuit, but I admit, I only get maybe one of those a month.

@restotool 4 ай бұрын

Sorry, but the 16 email queries you get a month about power sharing don't even register as a miniscule blip when comparing against the millions of non-commercial EV owners that only have one EV. A segment that for the most part is not currently considering a second EV for a myriad of reasons. As residential and commercial demand for EV's increases, power sharing will become a standard feature. But at this point EVSE manufacturers have little financial reason to incorporate it into their products. As a matter of fact it could be a detriment to their sales. All I am saying is the constantly whining about a feature the mass market would not use at this point is getting tiresome. Just state that it does or does not have power sharing, it does or does not get a point, and move on. Move on!

@hicapengrs 4 ай бұрын

I agree, why keep harping on a feature that is not really high up on the list of tings the majority of people actually need.

@MrKoshV 4 ай бұрын

40 amp isn’t enough anymore

@ohwahtdaheck Ай бұрын

Hard wiring. "very simple" "a simple swap" You really need to go back and give this one a whole lot more attention. The wiring bays are non-standard so the crimped on lugs are hard to find. Crimping is definitely a job for a professional who has expensive specialized tools. If in doubt check all the treads of frustration and sketchy amateur DYI mods. That'll raise your eyebrows.

@nosoupforyou425 4 ай бұрын

Have their alpha ev charger.... horrible service from this group. Very dishonest with their promises and marketing - move on to the next from them

@Necrotron 4 ай бұрын

I'm curious about this: the Alpha was literally launched in an alpha state with the understanding that the unit wasn't done and still in development. The Alpha was offered for purchase purely for people that were adventurous and wanted to experiment with the unit. What was your experience?

@nosoupforyou425 4 ай бұрын

@Necrotron no, the alpha was launched as a beta that would receive regular updates to improve promised functions. They even had a special link to be aware of these update....... they have since closed the update page, and after I reached out, they said don't expect any updates or improved functions. People join and support new product launches with trust. Which this group clearly does not offer - they still sell the unit to this day as NON beta.

@Necrotron 4 ай бұрын

@@nosoupforyou425 but it was still nonetheless launched as a product in development. What exactly was failing for you?

@nosoupforyou425 4 ай бұрын

@@Necrotron there is NO DEVELOPMENT.... GOOD GRIEF FELLA

@Necrotron 4 ай бұрын

@@nosoupforyou425 I understand there's no development, but had a reason to call in the first place, no? Did it stop charging? Did a feature stop working? Was software incompatible?