If it wasn't for Ben Greenfield publishing common misconceptions then you wouldnt have the opportunity to teach us all how it really works. So thank you Ben and Layne.

Dear fitness industry, No Layne, No gain.

Why doesn't this guy have more subs wtf. Thumbs up for him guys help him out.

We need more Layne in the fitness industry

Oh, Ben greenfield? This is gonna be good

“What type of tissue BURNS a lot of calories - muscle tissue”. This statement is correct and you misunderstood what he meant. His argument is that muscle burns/requires a lot of calories to be sustained, thus, if you’re starving, your body will shed muscle tissue to reduce your caloric requirements. He didn’t say muscle is a good source of calories, he said muscle burns a lot of calories. I am NOT saying his overall arguments are correct - I agree with everything you said. But, thought it only fair to point this out, knowing you are a man of intellectual honesty. Keep up the great content 🤘

This is great! It's great to listen to a lifter that has academic background yet understands the value of explaining in a simple way.

my total RESPECT BROTHER. this Chapter was a Master Class!

The fact is calories in calories out is the only way to lose fat.Laws of thermodynamics cannot be broken period

Layne continuing to pump out quality content, even after years of trolls. Love it man! Keep the zealots away.

As always, really appreciate your passion for dispelling nonsense. It’s infuriating because, as you pointed out, people conflate different concepts as if they are the same. It’s amazing to see people on weight loss forums “anyone here not do calories in and out?” No, literally no one! It’s not a choice. Yet, many will respond affirmatively. Or the “calories in and out isn’t true, I didn’t count calories.” They still count! Loved the savings analogy. Your point about personal responsibility is so true. Responsibility is not blame it’s power. Why would people be so willing to want to abandon responsibility? Responsibility means you can fix it.

What a informative video. Awesome 👍

Greatness Layne! Keep knocking out the charlatans!

You have the best rebuttals sir 🙂. Enjoyable and informative 🤘

Thank you for all the no b.s and sound education..

Think one thing most fitness influencers can agree on is that to lose fat you need a calorie deficit

Just subscribed, I’m always trying to learn new facts and science about fitness and dieting, amazing channel will share it to friends

This is cracking me up! Very informative but his reaction is hilarious! Excellent video! Thanks

Please do more videos like this. Truth!

Another amazing video. Curious as to what makes a yo-yo diet different from restriction during the week and eating more on the weekends.

Thank you, this was great and much needed. I’d love if you could do something like your top five fitness influencers or whatever their called. People who speak truth basically.

need to add my comment for the KZfaq algorithm. just found your vids a few days ago and have found them very helpful!

That was wonderful.

Great Work!!

Isn't it sad people like Ben Greenfield get awarded "trainer of the year" and get on huge platforms like Joe Rogan? The world is back asswards. 😒

Thanks!

Mental gymnastics exactly. The mental gymnastics Tro was performing in the debate was quite impressive too... and they always seem to debunk themselves in their own argument

Preach brother

I would love to see a conversation between you and Ben. I have enjoyed his content and yours for a while, and I think it would be a very interesting discussion.

Good job Layne

I FREAKING LOVE U MAN ... LEGEND

Hell yeah you tell them Layne!!!!👌👍👏💪😎

Hi Layne, Brilliant video! Big thank you for debunking that bullshit. It was great to learn about how energy balance TRULY works. Big thank you for making the video. Cheers, Billy

Awesome drill!

In a highly polarised world, Layne is the sane centrist. It is shocking you only have 212K subs

@BioLayne I think people who are actually eating in a deficit and see the scale go up and freak out after a week think they're getting fatter even if they look "fatter" when its just water retention. I bet a lot of those peoples sodium to potassium ratio is wayyyyy off as well. I'd be interested in you talking about calcium channels and sodium/potassium ratios in association with water retention, muscle contractions and processes like this. Love the super science-y vids!!

Awesome WTF!👍👍👍

PRICELESS

That was really funny and well done

Layne, Big fan of your videos. I have always kept in shape. Eat well, etc. I had to go on antidepressants, and have put on weight. I was wondering if you could do a video on how/if any way to combat weight when taking antidepressants? I have tried switching, etc. Does your metabolism slow? I am eating the same amount. Thank you! J

Great video as usual Layne. It frustrates me so much arguing with people that think basically because of hormones or whatever there is some magic way they can overcome basic energy laws. There best argument generally is some anecdotal report about themselves.

Dr. Fung also makes claims that our bodies simply adjust when we restrict calories. He said if we eat 500 fewer calories, we'll just adjust to it and weightloss won't necessarily occur. Thanks for calling out these "influencers" Layne!

I’m a medical graduate and a fitness enthusiast by the way ...

This is great 😂

Argh. Two times in a decade my Crohns flare caused me to drop down to a skeletal body. Both times after I bounced back, I went back to my normal weight range. I was actually starving. I lost tremendous amounts of fat. He's full of crazy.

Regarding his discussion of burning muscle for energy at about 6:00. Anyone who doubts the truth of what he’s saying should spend a couple months at the US Army’s Ranger School. I went in at 180 lbs, in shape, with relatively low body fat. I got down below 148-ish. After graduation I was 153, but that’s like four or five days after getting out of the field and drastically reducing my energy expenditure and increasing calories. I’m 6’3 so anything below 150 lbs is pretty emaciated. There’s nothing quite like being starving. You notice weird things like your B.O. starts to smell like urea or ammonia or something and small wounds on your hands or face take weeks to heal instead of days. Upper body muscle definition disappeared and your face looks hollow. It was bizarre. Of course, just like Dr. Layne is saying, the little fat I had disappeared first. Eventually the muscle started to go too. I think we ate about 2500 calories a day in the field (2 MREs) but man, we burned A LOT. Walking up and down mountains all day carrying 80-100 lbs. Doing missions and stuff. The effects on the body were wild.

Sounds like there was a lot of cherry picking of studies by the people Layne corrects. EVERYTHING comes down to energy balance! Good on you Layne!

Omg how many times are u gonna need to explain this 😆 .. love ur vids tho!

Layne fired up from lack of calories for shred 😂😂

Another great takedown by Layne.. CICO works BS sells books

I'm really enjoying your videos.. so much BS out there... And psuedo science

@7:04 The average caloric intake in the Minnesota Experiment was ~1600 kcals, not 800. Should never be used for any arguments of reducing the obese as most subjects were close to IBW PRIOR to starting the study. ( was to simulate and scientifically observe what would happen to general population in war torn Europe during WWII ) Ironically, about HALF of the weight loss was at the expense of LEAN MASS. [The Biology of Human Starvation Vols 1 & 2] Their calorie deficit from food alone was on average ~2000kcal/day - but what most never touch on is they were also required to exert approx 3000kcal of physical activity daily. (total deficit approx 5000kcal/day initially)

let's take the absolute extreme of calorie deficit: people who can't eat properly in developing countries. do you see any of them being fat? if the extreme doesn't show it then on no point towards that extreme can this occur

“Fuckyou, Siri” super relatable

Hey can you find some research on difference in 300 calorie's of highly processed food like Oreos vs 300 calories of a whole food like cabbage? They have the same amount of energy but inside our bodies we don't know how it works completely. We don't know how much of it butt flora eats so we can't even measure it from poop. I highly doubt eating lightly steamed cabbage and eating Oreos will result in the same result when it comes to absorption even excluding any thermic effect of macro nutrients. I even remember a study that shows the difference between whole peanuts and peanut butter but I can't remember where.

TODD TUCKER WROTE A BOOK ABOUT THE MINNESOTA EXPERIMENT IF I AM NOT MISTAKEN IT WAS 1600 CALORIES.THEY LOST 25 PERCENT BODYWEIGHT. VERY THIN

The nonchalant 'fuck you Siri'.... Epic lol. Kinda like triggered Layne.

Greenfield’s certainly full of it, but at 6:00 I think you misread what he wrote. He’s not saying muscle is a great source of energy, he’s saying it’s a big consumer of energy. To use the financial analogy, if your income dropped you’d probably want to reduce any avoidable expenses.

„Fuck you Siri” 🤣🤣🤣

Fierce! I like it! ha =)

"F you, Siri" ROFL So great!

It makes my "ass itch" when people demonize carbs when they should be demonizing highly palatable high carb/HIGH FAT foods which are super processed too :(

The defender of Thermodynamics

Is the one thumbs down Ben Greenfield?

Layne, can you do an impersonation of Ben Greenfield please?

Okay so Layne, NOT saying I agree with him at all, but I think you missed the point he was making in his article. He was trying to claim the body prioritizes burning muscle over fat in a deficit because muscle is more calorie hungry so you won’t need as many calories after burning it compared to fat. Yes, obviously it’s bullshit, I just thought you didn’t really address his point

"Breh, keep my name out ya mouth." -Einstein

Ben Greenfield biohacks his way to fatloss smh.

Some of the things people like Ben talk about are interesting and need further investigation, but for the rest...I'm not sure if they actually believe what they say or if they just lie or twist things to make even more money and confuse even more people. Obviously it keeps many people, because now they hold the "holy grail" of health, performance and fat loss that they can't find anywhere else, and obviously the supplements are 100x better (and more expensive) than anything else on the market. I fell for it too, but when your health is really bad you eventually have to drop the bullshit and can only spend money, time and energy doing what actually works. I personally think that those people can do whatever they think, but I'd love to have more mature and educated parents, better education that helps people think more critical and objective and such.

The F* you Siri, killed me 😂😂😂. And, to those who don't believe in energy balance... What about people with anorexia? Shouldn't they stop losing weight and gain it instead? People who argue about the basic rules of thermodynamics, are the same as the people who believe the Earth is flat.

But how can muscle be mostly protein if it's 70% water?

The only people that would believe Jonathan are short sedentary females because they wanna believe that they have a “ slow metabolism “ because they can’t eat the average calories for woman that has been stated online. But in all honestly it’s only because they are short which would make them hold less muscle mass and being female and sedentary on top of that. Being short and a female means ur just not meant to eat a lot of calorie dense foods. If you were meant to be able to eat these foods you wouldn’t be looking for solutions because you would be able to keep ur weight effortlessly.

We as a species would extinct long time ago if our bodies burnt essential tissues instead of body fat, which in fact is stored for exactly that purpose. This is one of the most idiotic myths that flies around. 4:30 is my reaction exactly 😅

4:16 - “I’m a little short on cash this month. I have $5,000 in a savings account, but I’d rather not use that, I’ll just sell one of my children instead.”

😂😂

You would enjoy Dr. Zoe harcombe’s claims. Please check her out.

I been listening to you for a months since then I gained 30 pounds, so I guess I’m going back to keto and intermittent fasting, yes you might be right CiCo works but for me gremlins get under control much better faster and easier on keto and fasting than just trying to count every single meal for the rest of my life. I’m not saying I’m never going to enjoy potatoes or chocolate ice scream with all the toppings or any other carb, but if I don’t do cardio and my sedentary life stile doesn’t required that much explosive fuel why would I consume them?

I couldn't stop laughing, some people could really benefit from taking a macro metabolism course. To stop all this nonsense.🤣

I've listened to Jonathan Bailor before and in his defense, he doesn't talk about eating more calories to lose weight. He talks about eating more in terms of volume of food. Basically, eating food in the form of low calorie density foods to promote satiety. That's why he says to "eat more to lose weight." He's just trying to help people without focusing on calorie tracking. On the other hand, Ben is nut job.

Also if you want your channel to grow it’s a lot easier to grow if you don’t use adult language, ( cursing ) just like Ninja/ Dude perfect/ Mr beast, , or just bleep the words out if you can’t help it. 😂

i hate when he criticided others... 👎👎👎👎

Stop dropping the F Bombs! It diminishes your point. What you say is highly educational and valuable. I would hate anyone to miss your excellent points due to verbal thuggery.

I don’t know why people say this guy takes gear he looks like crap. If he does take gear then he should be the best reason not to lol