I will never forgive Toby for making me listen to a 30 minute Giroud vs Lukaku debate

Tobs only defends Lukaku because he looks like him 😂

Skullthuggery please make a compilation of all of Saeeds blunders & infamous saying - we will happily pay for it 😂

Tobs’ chat about Giroud is exactly why maybe players aren’t showing the individual flair they once did. People are obsessed with stats, they just check sofascore without watching the game and pretend they have a good idea how it went. Firmino for Liverpool, Jesus for arsenal when he first joined, both scored few goals but the players around them had their best seasons because of them. Everyone who actually watched the World Cup in 2018 could see how important Giroud was to that campaign

Hope someone makes a compilation of all the times Lukaku pointed to his feet after the ball didn’t come to him. He’s deeply unserious.

Bielsa turned Phillips from a bang average centre mid to an England international, Phillips is a CDM who mainly played as a lone one, covers ground well, tough tackling, very good long passing range... I think this is what Southgate means when he said he misses that profile. When England were reaching semis and finals it was a Rice n Phillips midfield. Rice used to love playing alongside Phillips, just a bit of perspective for yous. Good show 👌

Grizz looks like he’s rejuvenated, man lost mad weight

Saeed is actually hilarious 😂

Giroud has carved out an incredible career for himself however people forget how much of a bum he was at Arsenal - they wasted prime Özil in an era where they could have won leagues with literally any other striker in front of him.

Lukaku was a Top 5 striker in the last 2 years at Everton and first 2 years at Inter Giroud has never been a Top 5 striker at any point in his career. Valbuena is the only reason Giroud has a somewhat respectable International career

As an Arsenal fan, Giroud is technically wayy better. His first touch, link up play, and passing is world class. His hold up play, physicality is on par with Lukaku. Lukaku shooting is better but overall play Giroud is better. Giroud is also France's all time top scorer

Great to see my brother Grizz back . Is Tobs the most hot or cold analyst on this show? He makes great points some days and then goes on these wild opinions other days 😂 Great show as always. Love for the love.

"tunnel at the end of the light"

Giroud is a better striker than lukaku.... All round better player, better link up, dependable, longevity, professional. Tobs acting like the judge of football

I swear when Saeed said Naingolan I was asking myself.. did I miss something? Did he have double citizenship and switch teams cause of game time, maybe family matters? But then I just let it go... I'm as bad as Big Steve 😂

Not one person on the panel is an English fan. And all live in England and support English teams. MAD 😂😂😂😂

The managers are the stars I've noticed, Mourinho,Klopp,Pep and skill being coached out of players no joga benito

I feel like the Football fell off thing is so overstated. Yes it's not as individualistic as before but let's not pretend like we had 60 world class players pre this new era and the addition of social media has ruined people's perception of players. Imagine how people would talk on players like Ronaldinho or Rui Costa if they played in this era

Saeed tends to say "nah I didn't say that" but he should know the Big 6ix community will be quick to find anything of u in 4K 😂

Good to have the boys back together

Great to see grizz back great show as always 👍

Lukaku is wack but very good numbers especially early on but technical class giroud all day

The 30years watched England guy figured it all out guys. It's ok. All everyone has to do is just blame ourselves and not the players that kick ball and the manager. Nope. He got it! It's us. I know .. obvious sarcasm.. cool. But hang on , imagine actually believing this^^ incredible .

tobs is just waffling with Giroud thing.. Just accepts you are wrong sometimes man..Giroud even put Benzema on bench for time

Football is at it's worst. I haven't enjoyed the Euros; no skill, no exciting style of play, no individual brilliance. We praise Pep, but we need more Ancelottis and Wenger- "go and express yourself- play on instinct"- even Ferguson allowed his players to play. . Not this Pep era where he's watering down players and their abilities.... imagine telling Henry stay outwide and if he doesn't he won't play 😂😂😂😂.

Turkish speaking facts, man have always kicked ball in undesirable places, but it is what it is. When you are a baller and you really love playing you don't even think of the roads like that because there used to be an unwritten rule that nobody touched the ballers and man could go about their business.

Actually missed grizz good to see him back

Giroud is better than Lukaku, the guy was one of the best No.9 facilitator, his link up play was crazy

I believe why we see football these days more boring is because of mistakes being taken out of the game more and more. Players would rather play it safe than ever before. Reason why Palmer 15min cameo looked good was because you could see he was trying to do the risky pass.

And Turkish saying arsenal are only linked to potential unlike back in the day. If I remember correctly Henry was only potential when he came to arsenal. He’d failed at juventus but he lived up to his potential and became arsenal legend so what’s wrong with arsenal being linked with potential now?

Girouds move to Chelsea saved he’s career and put respect on him again he didn’t score alot but was a big game player and was a second striker

open the livechat please

Saeed don’t ever leave that room

Missed you too Grizzly!! Welcome back, time for BBL again 🙌

England fans are deluded, going back history when as England played well, we get hypnotised by this premier league.

I remember over a year ago when cams was slated on this channel for suggesting saka should play left back Now when uncle wrighty says it people agree lol laughable

Liverpool fans for years🗣️ -Trent is a natural midfielder playing out of position Liverpool fans after a Trent stinker -he’s not a midfielder why play him there🫵😹

Lukaku is the perfect Tottenham player and Tobs is the perfect Tottenham fan. They prefer individual glory over the collective. Match made in heaven.

Lukaku and Giroud are the same level. What are you guys on? You pick one only based on preference.

tobz constant tryna come off like he's bad but just ends up waffling to himself whilst everyone talks over him & rips him 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Tobi speaks in circles 😂

“Giroud is a better striker than Lukaku” - Tobs 2024

Arguing for Lukaka, Tobs man you have lost it

1:31:20 im dying their reactions hahha

Money is ruining football, players, coaches, pundits and podcasts.

Tbh i miss the no soft players days. Today players are spoilt and the next hazard/henry etc before they play a senior game. Too much hype not enough result.

Are we suddenly saying KDB, Mbappe, Rodri, Vini, Musiala, Wirtz, Kroos, Bernardo, VVD, Saliba, Ødegaard, Yamal, Haaland, Bastoni, Griezmann, Kvaratskhelia, Nuno Mendes, Rodrygo, Foden, Camavinga, TAA, Mac Allister, Isak are all players who'd be rated way more highly and appreciated if they played in different eras. All elite players but Football fell off apparently because your favourite players are getting old

The feeling Grizz is talking about, and why, is because this is the first time in the Prem when we've had a situation like City, serial cheats who are still allowed to compete while being charged, they're also suing the Prem, we've got multi club ownership models going on, loopholes being exploited left right and centre, and all the controversy with VAR. It's a complete mess right now and it's not fun for anyone. The Premier League needs to get its act together or it's going to lose fans.

Saka playing left back would be beneficial because it would offer an extra man on the attack and also he tracks back he can defend

Man trying to do a switcheroo yeah?

Tobi won the day

Giroud is top scorer in the history of france national team😂 what is tobs onnnn😂😂😂

Pickford, Trent/Walker, Stones, Ghuei, Gomez/Trippier (until Shaw is fit), Rice(6), Bellingham (8), Foden (10), Saka, Kane, Gordon. Need to fix the left wing, atm Saka is the only outlet on the right. Need pace and a runner on the left for another outlet.

When united were wining league with dead football no one complained now we winning with silky football we guys cant handle it. Stop being jealous of city winning and accept the baller you losers 🔵🔵🔵🔵🔵

90% of the time Tobs has the most unbiased and based football take. Mah tried to sneak Giroud in a convo by saying "France miss pogba and Giroud", Tobs called him out and perfectly displayed as to why Giroud is perfectly rated. Btw Lukaku>> Giroud. In the regard to the "Football fell off" take. That statement is partially true, keeper aside i think there is about 10 players max that could still be considered World class 15 yrs ago. There is not a significant difference with the middle & bottom of the pyramid from back then and now. Another reason as to why "football fell off" is the fact that most teams are system based now and the creativity of players is beeing taken out of them by managers and fan.

Let's play Saka as LB who hasn't played there in 4 years, Kane as box to box midfield because he is dropping deep anyway, Jude as CF coz he's roaming wherever he wants, Palmer coz he's the best right winger in the prem, then you can play Foden in the center because he's only better there when he isn't shit off the wings.. These fans recommending changes when the problem isn't the players but the tactics and system.. Put pressure on Southgate not your stupid comments on who plays where

We really did a lukaku vs giroud deabte,both are meaty but id take lukaku blindly but id depend on the style

End of the day giroud is gonna have more international trophies cos he plays for France no doubt lukaku is a better consistent striker

Imagine telling Gareth Bale to play as a LB to accommodate Dan James cause wales needed some “ balance”. That Ian wright comment was disrespectful, the people pleaser really let Saka down with that comment.

Stop this. Palmer isn’t good enough to start on the right for England. Palmer is good but he’s not as good as Saka

Tobs' goes on the most random defense of players. Respect 🫵

Giroud is a bum he ruined Ozil chance to break assist record and he was missing sitters getting set up by carzorla and Sanchez

Disrespecting Giroud comparing him to that bum

Toby is such a Lib Dems kinda donny verging on tory

Urkel is giving giroud that hawk tuah

Can we stop with the football fell off chat every week it’s so dead. The game has moved past being individually great. The difference between the best players and the worst has become so marginal. Every player is so finally tuned from sports science to technique. The reason Pep wins the most because he realised this, and the only way to succeed is to be the best tactically. International football is the greatest example of this and you are all seeing it

We all rave about Bielsa ball ...because in the copa America , they havnt met a worthy opposition yet. Its all good switching to man marking when you are the superior team physically and technically. But when the opposition is as good as you are or superior in possession lets see if that man marking press still works . I need to see more

Mahtisse might be the most annoying person to listen to. Using big moments and trophies only to compare players is peak stupidity

Can some1 send the link to playback.how do I watch the fc24 streams

Modern football is horrendous to watch. Ronaldo and these guys are right. No individuality whatsoever, all system BS.

Guys, Saeed was thinking of Hamsik when he said Nainggolan because of the hair! Sheer genius this lad! Like so that he can see this

You can say that football has fallen off after Ronaldo and Messi started winning Balon D'ors.. What player with "individual quality" has won after those 2 robots have been here all this era.? There are Individual Brilliance from many players every year but some just choose to forget or ignore them..

Gang shiii

If these man would know that Milan actually wants to replace Lukaku with Giroud currently in the market this convo would go to the next level lol

You dont reconize Brasil because you are looking for something that is not there . The mark of a good team or a talented squad is how much chances they are able to create against impossible odds. Against Brasil the opposing team had 10 men in a low block. Never easy to breakdown . But yet Brasil was able to progress the ball through the middle and create goal scoring opportunities at will. That doesnt mean they are bad. That just means the football Gods were not on their side that day. This Brasil squad is as talented as the one I ve seen in the 90's and the 2000's . I'm 45 I've seen them all. The same ex players complaing about what Brasil is today are the same players that started the decline. I ve seen a Brasil of Bebetto and Romario get packed by the super eagles in Atlanta, I ve seen the Brasilian dream team or Roberto Carlos and co lose a final to a midfield of Deschamps and Fucking Karembeu. And yes 10 years ago they still got a 7-0 whooping from Germany. Brasil didnt get bad. Football just moved on. The current Brasil is in a phase of adaptation. And unfortunately they are still respected as a football powerhouse. And expected to dominate with beautifull football. You cant have it both ways . PEP didnt kill football. JOSE and the other pragmatic managers did.

I must say I have missed waffling Tobs

You man knocking tobi for his tone is nonesense lol, look at what he’s saying not tone

Matisse opinion is trash aha....so chelsea

Reason for fell off...if you guys followed football than da way you do know, it would not have been a lot different, we are to close on a consistent bases, compared to the flashes we see from way back,I think

Timestamps please

Technical ability is nit everything for a. Striker goals matter

Lol brazil played one game.... saeed shut up.

Toni Kroos for Ballon D‘or

Giroud and Lukaku are both arse 🤣lukaku scored more though

Keeeeep underrating Italy

Giroud > Lukaku. Matisse has it right. He allowed the wingers the hold up play and freedom to attack in behind and hoist the World Cup. Consistent goals for club and country and his current role in the French team will prove to be more reliable than Lukaku starting for Big Bad Belgium. Lukaku doesn’t have two stars on his Belgium kit. Top goal scorer for France above Platini, Henry, Trazeguet, Mbappe even. Lukaku outscoring Voorhoof and Hazard.

Lukaku and Giroud isn’t even a convo. Lukaku is better.

I’m an Arsenal fan my whole life. & I have to say I wish Arsenal bought Kendry Paez, Estevao & Savio ..I’m very jealous & very disappointed in Edu.

Tobs is so agenda driven man, for a person who has had so many shit takes he should be a little more humble

TOBY COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

Lukaku is shit but has scored good numbers everywhere

You don't bag 20 goals for west brom and be a pub striker

🎶 Tottenham get battered everywhere they go 🎶

Turkish not standing up for Giroud frustrates me. The man scored over 100 goals for Arsenal.

Why not give ballon d’Or to the actual best player this year 🇰🇳🥶 only thing stopping him from Euros POTT is Southgate.

I don’t know how to think after hearing Toby argue that Lukaku is the better striker than Giroud…..it’s actually crazy. 🤡

I love tobs man

Lukaku might be a better goalscorer then Giroud, but i`d 100% Take Giroud ahead of Lukaku. saying Lukaku is better then Giroud is a wild as statement. Tobs is chatting so much shit his AC Milan vs Inter comparison also sucks yes Lukaku played well at Inter, but Inter is also currently a way better team then AC Milan, so Giroud winning on a lesser team then Inter in the present day makes it even more impressive for Giroud. Tobs must really love Kane though, Kane is just an upgraded version of Lukaku and Kane still isn`t able to show up when it matters.

Giroud is a better teammate. That counts for at least a little. If I start a team from bare bones then I’m taking Lukaku tho

Shit episode