Ep. 11 Sympathetic Snare Buzz

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Sounds Like A Drum

Sounds Like A Drum

6 жыл бұрын

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Sympathetic snare buzz: It's something that we all deal with at some point or another from our snare drum. It's quite common to experience snare wire buzzing from your toms or even your bass drum. Some of us like it, others can't stand it, most just tolerate it. There are some things that can be done to control it. In this episode, we break down a few of those approaches and more.
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@zachherndon1724
@zachherndon1724 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that likes just listening to this guy in general? He seems like an amazing teacher.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciated :) -Cody
@efafe4972
@efafe4972 11 ай бұрын
he talks like he's giving me a detailed food review about caviar or something
@lorislaruedrummer6739
@lorislaruedrummer6739 15 күн бұрын
I used to fall asleep listening to this guy, such a calming a reassuring voice
@matteix4
@matteix4 5 жыл бұрын
I hate when you pass hours tuning your set to eliminate the buzz and the bassist ruin everything.
@KCElstun
@KCElstun 6 жыл бұрын
"Practice remembering to turn them back on..." I resemble that remark. ;)
@Rogersdrumvideos
@Rogersdrumvideos 6 жыл бұрын
continues to be the best drum content on the internet ... bravo again
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your support!
@Mainedrummerboy
@Mainedrummerboy 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, lots of useful information here.
@johnbreedlove3245
@johnbreedlove3245 6 жыл бұрын
I wish at least when my snare or tom buzzes, they'd produce those cool wavy lines off the top like yours did! : O
@ZeBubba
@ZeBubba 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes on older records that snare buzzing from guitar/bass amps is just plain cool, Hendrix comes to mind. Gives a real live vibe to the recording.
@drummersinger5324
@drummersinger5324 2 жыл бұрын
MItch Mitchell's snare drum on first three albums was the shit.
@beatleszilla
@beatleszilla 2 жыл бұрын
Ringo’s is very obvious on the Don’t Let Me Down single
@drummersinger5324
@drummersinger5324 2 жыл бұрын
@@beatleszilla Snare buzz sounds good when the snare is tuned well. it's what snare drums actually sound like. Removing that means less authentic and less endearing to the ear sound
@toofarpunk
@toofarpunk 5 жыл бұрын
I just embrace it. I think it sounds more natural that way. You kinda alluded to something in the beginning-we hear recorded drums and think that’s how we have to get our kit to sound when sitting at the kit. In reality when things are close miked, some gating going on and in the context of a mix snare buzz really isn’t an issue at all.
@tonzokinawa
@tonzokinawa 3 жыл бұрын
I literally have never had a problem with this. It happens. I’m not going to tune my toms differently. When close miked the snare buzz alone isn’t enough to make the gate open. I like the wholistic approach to drums. It’s all one big instrument
@ClaxtonDrums
@ClaxtonDrums 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is a major struggle for just about any drummer out there. The tips you provided here today are truly valuable and I'm sure everyone watching, took something from this. Awesome job as usual guys! Cant wait to see more!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Our goal is to continue to provide actionable information with every video we release. Cheers!
@davegrigsby7807
@davegrigsby7807 2 жыл бұрын
On the suggestion of disengaging the snare wires during a performance when you aren’t playing. After doing this (and realizing I hadn’t turned them back on till the song kicked back in) more than a few times. I got in the habit of turning them off, but keeping my hand on the strainer till it was time to come back in. This solved the problem of forgetting to turn them back on.
@dorianclini
@dorianclini 5 жыл бұрын
-Practise song ends. -I want to say something to the guitar player -He can't hear me because of the bass player who can't help jamming -He takes off his ear plugs, I take off the snare wires -He then says "Okay let's do that other song" -We start, I hit the snare and it goes "POMMMM" GOD DAMNIT!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, we’ve all been there before. Good part of the practicing process though!
@rubendominguez5515
@rubendominguez5515 5 жыл бұрын
I've finally found somebody who explains how the sound of drums works and what can we do with that. The best drum tuning videos ever. Great video edit, by the way.
@toomdog
@toomdog 5 жыл бұрын
"Practice learning to turn them back on if you did turn them off." I do this two or three times every week at church. Still haven't learned! haha
@danyvet1
@danyvet1 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I just told one of my stories in my comment, where I forgot to switch it on again 😅
@themole2024
@themole2024 3 жыл бұрын
Here is what finally help my buzz. Use string instead of the flat mylar to hold down the wires.
@quadrhythm6609
@quadrhythm6609 5 жыл бұрын
Your An Excellent Articulate Teacher. Just Bought My First Kit And The Information Provided On these Video's Has Taught Me A lot. Thank You.
@pobthecat
@pobthecat 5 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a really good and informative video that addresses something that is a topic I've been having years of issues with and, s far as I'm aware this is the first video that hasn't said to mess with the snare tuning. The tip about lowering the tuning of the bottom lug is really one of those aha moments... 👍
@billbigler1366
@billbigler1366 5 жыл бұрын
I just caught your channel and you are one of the most articulate and informative people on drums on the internet. Keep up the great work.
@Mcgweeezy
@Mcgweeezy 4 жыл бұрын
12 minutes man my gf has interrupted me so many times already I need he busy dad version of this😂😂🤘🤘🤘
@ryanwilson5936
@ryanwilson5936 3 жыл бұрын
Dad Pro Tip: increase the playback speed of the video! Good luck!
@samchoate1719
@samchoate1719 2 жыл бұрын
As a producer who started out on guitar and is recording acoustic drums now, this channel is pure gold. Thank you!
@LBird44
@LBird44 6 жыл бұрын
you guys should do a tom tuning video and discuss the ratio of the bottom and top heads and the difference it makes in the over all sound of the tom. ;)
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
That’s coming soon! Thanks for watching!
@MrsKarenColumbo
@MrsKarenColumbo 5 жыл бұрын
You're a life saver. instead of scanning through hundreds of half-ass chaotic footage I have it all in one place :) Thx!
@MrsKarenColumbo
@MrsKarenColumbo 5 жыл бұрын
Let's see if your vids help me get my temperamental (cheap a.f.) 13x7 Tama Kapur bitch under control :=)
@bobwick3675
@bobwick3675 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thank you for providing a clear, concise and complete solution.
@paulboutin7191
@paulboutin7191 2 жыл бұрын
The interesting thing about a lot of these vids is that they experiment w/counter intuitive concepts that actually help. Good stuff!
@jmfs3497
@jmfs3497 Жыл бұрын
I love that this channel has a video about drum phenomena that no other channel thinks to explore. Sympathetic resonance is not for everything. I like the resonance for jazz and modern classical. Dense, long tones muddy it up, unless that's what we are going for. I explore rimshots or muting if I can't cut through with sticks or mallets. Or I just sit sections out. I do make sure to toss towels on the heads if I'm back-lining during other acts, but with my own band I might let their sounds resonate my drums.
@thejamman555
@thejamman555 6 жыл бұрын
First time watcher of this channel, great advice and quite a few tips I haven't thought of before.
@1life2pono
@1life2pono 6 жыл бұрын
Great info and well presented. Very easy to understand. Great video!!!!!
@Philbiood
@Philbiood 6 жыл бұрын
thank's for the advise! I have been having little issues with my snares on stage recently, and I have always been turning the snare on and off all the time. also I love the sound of snare buzzing inside the kit. it makes the kit sound "alive".
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! When you consider the drum set as a full instrument, the sympathetic resonance really does seem more appropriate, though we understand why that can be quite subjective.
@djentlover
@djentlover 5 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering about the symptathetic resonance between tom heads and bass drum. Then I noticed that you have a video regarding this issue. So awesome. Also, I like your personality.
@markchristensen3353
@markchristensen3353 5 ай бұрын
I have a ten piece with a pork pie big bob snare and the 12” rack tom is the only piece that makes the snare buzz. Watching these videos helped me to understand to lessen the buzz.
@darkflamesquirrel
@darkflamesquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
as a non drummer who uses sample libraries this is an eye opener!! a lot of insight here to gain! cool video!
@DrummingMan1
@DrummingMan1 6 жыл бұрын
Solid tips as usual guys! Thanks a lot!
@ziccuj
@ziccuj 4 жыл бұрын
Another very helpful video, thanks a million!
@B0chit0
@B0chit0 3 жыл бұрын
This is super helpful. Thank you so much.
@mikematteson1688
@mikematteson1688 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else think this guy looks like Rob Schneider? Love these videos. I've learned more today watching this channel than I have in the last few years.
@TcapVids1985
@TcapVids1985 6 жыл бұрын
Too good! You guys are prodUcing some awesome content. Thanks!!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your support!
@NEALBABBITT
@NEALBABBITT 6 жыл бұрын
Those Pearl drums are great drums and sound awesome!
@evanpragliola4947
@evanpragliola4947 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you guys covered this. Just when I thought I had an idea for a video for you guys I found this. There’s a super low note on my friends 5 string Marcus Miller bass that makes my snare go crazy. Lowering the resonant head helped a little bit but I love my snare cranked high so I just try to ignore it hahah for rehearsal scenario especially
@Chiroman527
@Chiroman527 3 жыл бұрын
Cory, Yes Bravo for your typical thoroughness. I just got a PDP Maple Concept kit (used in Great condition from Guitar Center). The 10 X 8 rack tom on the PDP kit is Buzzing the snare drum so much. If I play my other snare - DW Design Series Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 , the buzzing is less prominent. It only happens when I hit the small Tom, not any other drums. The Buzz is much greater with the PDP snare (14 X 5.5), with it's Stock Remo head. Just ordered a Evans HD Dry batter head for the PDP snare (I have one on the DW snare - a terrific drum head ), and also G2 Coated batter heads for all the Toms (10, 12, 14, 16 inches). The stock Remo singhle ply Clear batter heads are only OK.... As a 69 YO - beginner Drummer, returning to the "art" after a 50 year Hiatus (garage band in the late 60s), I have learned so much watching your videos (and others too ), about DRUMS, their intricacies / Tuning / Different Heads , etc. I never knew this stuff playing my Set (in my day it was called a Drum Set), in the 60s. THX for all of your very valuable advice.
@hoisin75
@hoisin75 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this! Thanks mate
@rhythmcaster2018
@rhythmcaster2018 6 жыл бұрын
Now THIS is what I've always looking for. Acoustically tuning technique without any pose-process while demo(ing) the sound.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!!! It all starts with that acoustic sound :)
@BruceWayne-bt8yx
@BruceWayne-bt8yx 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation! Thank you. :-)
@mileslinus
@mileslinus 5 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, love your channel
@franciszamora9369
@franciszamora9369 2 жыл бұрын
I wrapped a large towel around the snare drum shell facing the high tom and it solved the problem of snare buzz.
@DZNTZ
@DZNTZ 4 жыл бұрын
I’d say there’s 4 factors I try to address here: Tension of snare reso Tension of tom reso(s) Snare wire count De-coupling snare AND rack tom from stands I can usually play around with tensions on the reso heads of toms and snare and find a place where they’re not activating like crazy. But that’s a LOT easier when using lower count snare wires like 12-strand or on a 13” I’ll even use 10. Still get a great snare sound, can go from loose and greasy to tight and crisp, no loss of goodness. ALSO critical (for me) is de-coupling the drums from their stands - if they are 2 separate entities and not both in essence grounded to the same floor, they will sympathize less right? I think so. So Little Booty Shakers or equivalent for snare basket and also for tom if I’m using a snare stand for tom (I use the Tama Classic tom stand which is basically a taller old-school snare stand). They really work and will breathe new life into your drums, if you think that “perfect” snare drum sounds good now - try de-coupling it from the stand and you’ll have a big silly smile on your face. (I think a riser makes a huge difference to bass drum tone as well, 18” and 20” bass drums on a riser sound their best) I think you could do a whole episode on de-coupling - you’ve got snare basket products (and diy solutions like tubing and pipe insulation) and you’ve got floor tom/bass drum products - various ‘floating’ feet, Original Booty Shakers, and bass drum risers. I imagine the companies who make them would be happy to donate their products for an a/b - after all, there’s a growing community of drummers who trust you guys and value your opinions!
@Funkybassuk
@Funkybassuk 5 ай бұрын
I was having some horrible sympathetic buzz from the snare drum to the rack tom, and then also the other way from the rack tom to the snare wires. I used a couple of quick tuning trick from this video and the problem is solved! The big improvement was from loosening one lug on the rack tom nearest the snare. Thanks for the advice!
@Pawsey66
@Pawsey66 6 жыл бұрын
As an up-and-coming professional drummer/producer/engineer, the value I get from your channel is incredible and I'm so appreciative. Thank you guys so much for the great, informative content!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
We love hearing feedback like this! Help spread the word about Sounds Like a Drum and share this channel and the videos with your drummer friends. Cheers!
@dang1687
@dang1687 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video thank you
@DannyBrown-lg3dv
@DannyBrown-lg3dv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for what you do! So glad I subscribed. I thought I was going to lose it the other day. After your video I realized it’s really not that bad. It was more just me not liking it. It was short and really wasn’t noticeable on my recoding.
@callibr8
@callibr8 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Great tips, will definitely try adjusting my rack lugs to mitigate some buzz 🤘
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Glad you got something from it. Cheers!
@ishta
@ishta 3 жыл бұрын
Snare buzz sometimes act as ghost notes and can sound cool and pretty. Great tips. Thanks
@paulmitchel9566
@paulmitchel9566 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are my heroes!
@warrenk9587
@warrenk9587 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@PlayToxia
@PlayToxia 3 жыл бұрын
Holy f**k, I've found the drum Channel that I was looking for for years, Thanks men! :D
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome! Be sure to spread the word and share with your fellow drummers. Cheers!
@craigcapinjola4196
@craigcapinjola4196 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Great video! 🙏🙏
@FVDaudio
@FVDaudio 6 жыл бұрын
Well... Another 100% score video. Drummers, producers and engineers is a great channel!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Anything you can do to help spread the word about the channel is greatly appreciated. Cheers!
@bonzomio
@bonzomio 5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, I just went through the exercise of changing out 42 strand "Puresound" snare wires for 20 strand "Puresound" snare wires under the assumption it perhaps would reduce sympathetic snare buzz. It really didn't make a difference that I could discern & I liked the sound of the 42's better, so I switched back. After countless tuning scenarios on batter and reso for both the snare & rack tom, I discovered that the best way to reduce "buzz" was to lower the pitch of the rack tom reso to just past finger tight (1/4 turn max) and tune the top head accordingly. All of this challenged my patience since I was also trying to get the pitches from the bass drum to floor tom to rack tom to snare (sans snares) to be tonally incremental and in pitch with each other (jazz type tuning at a lower pitch). As you mentioned, you just have to play with all of the variables until you find the right personal combination, but lower reso tuning seems to work best for me. Thanks again for an informative video!
@sircolinbison
@sircolinbison 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏
@JubalCreech
@JubalCreech 4 жыл бұрын
Turing off snares is always recommended when leaving the stage... especially if followed by other acts without drummers... especially-especially if it's an acoustic or spoken word act. I don't know how many times I've had to sneak onstage to cut the snares off that were buzzing rudely behind the set! (or even just the house music!). #notetoselfandothers Love the channel! Thank you!
@phinexblit9029
@phinexblit9029 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice
@andreondrums7841
@andreondrums7841 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I must say I have been guilty of that
@JETX1990
@JETX1990 6 жыл бұрын
On the snare, I tuned the resonant head up and lowered the tuning of batter side slightly. It helped reduce the buzz tremendously. Although I do choke my wires a little as well ;)
@arielbordon5990
@arielbordon5990 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome, so well explain and so simple at the same time, greetings from Argentina!
@brucejohnston3199
@brucejohnston3199 6 жыл бұрын
As usual, great practical advice - loved the bit at the end with the smile " remember to turn them back on" I have done that many times after a drumless intro to a song - hit the snare and guess what - embarrasing! That's what! Good stuff. Love it . ( as per above . greetings from Australia)
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, Ariel!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Bruce! We had some laughs after we finished shooting the episode, remembering the times of coming back in after an acoustic bridge section only to realize that the snares were still off. Thanks for watching!
@rmandrums1959
@rmandrums1959 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative. I have been playing for over 50 years and I have yet to figure out this problem. Maybe I am a slow learner or mentally handicapped :-) Thanks again.
@caseydoremus5324
@caseydoremus5324 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this video! it is always a struggle!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome! Glad to hear that it was helpful for you.
@yolanc3876
@yolanc3876 5 жыл бұрын
Snare buzz is cool 😂 I don’t like hearing toms without snare buzz
@ziiofswe
@ziiofswe 4 жыл бұрын
Replace all the toms with snares. Problem solved!
@DZNTZ
@DZNTZ 4 жыл бұрын
ziiofswe I would say THATS CRAZY! But they already did that episode, and it was AWESOME! So ya never know. But wait, do snares create sympathetic snare buzz? If a snare drum buzzes in the forest and there’s nobody there to hear it....
@ziiofswe
@ziiofswe 4 жыл бұрын
@@DZNTZ Made me think of Judas Priest's "You've got another thing coming" which has some weird snare drum "thing" going on around 3.50 or so... probably made with studio shenanigans, but it _sounds_ like a bunch of differently tuned snare drums.
@DZNTZ
@DZNTZ 4 жыл бұрын
gabriel Cruz Just remember - buzzed drumming is drunk drumming
@karlspear6729
@karlspear6729 5 жыл бұрын
It always gets me when people treat a drumset like 4 or 5 separate instruments. It's one instrument. There should be crosstalk between the drums. That said, snare buzz is a problem but only when you're not playing the drum. A lot of times just putting your hand on the drum stops it.
@twistedtonestudio3716
@twistedtonestudio3716 3 жыл бұрын
for this Issue I found the simplest solution to be the best. I spent days getting all my tom tuned up perfectly together only to end up with my 10" tom causing a serious snare buzz. Rather than retune all the toms I used two small strips off gaffer tap place about 1/4 of the way from the rim on both sides of the rattle. It took a lot of the buzz out and didn't sacrifice much on my rattles sound. But you will be stuck with your rattle up at all times though or be constantly replacing the gaffer tape.
@lelandbobpalmer
@lelandbobpalmer 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT DRUM CHANNEL!!! Thanks a LOT :-)
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! Be sure to share it with your drummer friends. Cheers! -Ben
@johncox4356
@johncox4356 5 жыл бұрын
I love me a little bit of sympathetic buzz, it keeps the drum kit sounding like one instrument as opposed to an ultra isolated sound. I also generally prefer old school recording techniques with just one or two mics. It keeps your recordings honest.
@Pearl3Drummer
@Pearl3Drummer 4 жыл бұрын
Great information. My only issue with detuning the lug is that it the other tom(s) wont be in tune with the detuned tom.
@roybeckerman9253
@roybeckerman9253 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people in the audience, can tell the difference between an expensive kit and an average kit , when played behind electric guitars or controlled by sound engineers. Playing something at home and on stage can be very different, which is why drummers often use their cheaper kits on stage at gigs and save their expensive kits for home.
@section8usmc53
@section8usmc53 4 жыл бұрын
All I have to do is talk and my whole kit rings. I'm going to work with the heads first, as I want to dry them out and warm them up a bit anyway. Once I get the rest of the kit where I want, I'll see where I'm at and start working on different combinations of these ideas.
@JiihaaS
@JiihaaS 2 жыл бұрын
Sympathetic resonance is also what you feel when you go to see a fellow drummer's band and the bassist hits *that* note.
@yoashuain1
@yoashuain1 4 жыл бұрын
40 chain snare is quieter! It also give you a bigger snare snap. I use a wide O ring and that helps with the buzz. I also have the drums in another room so no bass noise will effect the kit. Something to think about. 😉
@catalinlulea
@catalinlulea 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, you’re still my go to guy when I’m not happy with my drums sound and don’t know what to do…
@paulcompton9311
@paulcompton9311 5 жыл бұрын
I have found that using a drum dial to get the heads tensioned equally helped a lot with this issue. Also, the interaction between the snare and toms has a lot to do with the chosen tone for each drum. I also do not tune my toms with the resonant head tuned higher than the batter head. That method, after 50 years of playing and experimenting with tuning, does not work for me. I currently have virtually zero sympathetic snare buzzing using these methods and love the sound of my drums. All the Sounds Like A Drum videos are excellent, by the way.
@123kickitt
@123kickitt 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a poster once of Tommy Chong saying "Snare buzz happens, man!" ergo the bumper sticker "S*** Happens"
@ZacharyRedFulton
@ZacharyRedFulton 3 жыл бұрын
I've always heard that Rogers Dynasonic snare drums, and even DW's line of True-Sonic snare drums are supposed to reduce sympathetic snare buzz in thanks to their snare bridge systems. What's your opinion on that???
@PyrodiscoDave
@PyrodiscoDave 3 ай бұрын
What is the solution other than loosening a lug when the toms are singing?
@rocesboyanthony5343
@rocesboyanthony5343 5 жыл бұрын
I tune my toms pretty low cause I like a slappy sounding tom. I also use a plastic ring so I don't have to tune so low. I can get a slappy sound without a extremely low tune
@jensharald9091
@jensharald9091 5 жыл бұрын
I love what you guys do! You've raised my attention to calfskin heads, and I love the retro-aesthetic of them, aswell as the sound they provide on snares, but i have no idea if they're just for snares or if they can take a beating. Can you compare the Remo fiberskyn, skyntone, and/or Evans calftone heads to the real ones or even regular coated heads, and adress why such aren't ever used on toms? :) Does it make them sound like bongos? Does it muffle too much without providing enough attack? Will they bust? Pros and cons of every option, Let us know!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! We'll have a faux-calf vs. true calf comparison video in the future though we find both calf and faux-calf in use on toms relatively frequently. It all depends on the desired sound (though many choose the faux-calf simply based on the appearance). -Ben
@jensharald9091
@jensharald9091 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! It's mainly that I've been thinking about putting coated emperors on my toms some time in the future to try that change in sound and feel, but now i'm wondering how those compare to faux-calf, as i love the appearance of those. I'll wait and watch your video, and hopefully you'll compare those two types of heads as well :) Cheers.
@jdion79
@jdion79 6 жыл бұрын
christ i was playing this house party and i've been employing the throw off method. i forgot three damn times to re-engage them hahaha! definitely not gonna do that again!
@gholyone
@gholyone 4 жыл бұрын
The two drums are right on top of each other. Maybe putting a little more space between the two drums might help with the buzz?
@tedtedsen269
@tedtedsen269 5 жыл бұрын
I discovered all the instruments in a band will make sympathetic resonance if they have the same frequency you can sing a particular note and the drum will resonate then you can either sing another tone or voice and adjust the drum down or up or tomtom bass drums also the room You play in affects the frequency or resonant
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It’s simply physics and it’s something that needs to be embraced as much as it’s controlled. Cheers! -Ben
@Monsterdrumma
@Monsterdrumma 6 жыл бұрын
To address the bass amp problem I am seriously thinking of buying a little baffle to put around their amps which are usually small but loud! Also screw wedges, they sound all muddy and take up to much room so I use in ears. Just some ideas.
@wep5906
@wep5906 5 жыл бұрын
If you are that bothered by it, and love dark and dry snare tones, tennis racket line; or to be fancy, synthetic gut. A buddy threw me some, and there is zero buzz. It is a totally different sound, but I put mine on a 40s RK. It's probably not for every snare, but definitely an option.
@glytch5
@glytch5 4 жыл бұрын
I get snare buzz from my snare... i'm not sure what it is i'm doing but everytime I tune a snare the way I want it, its own ring out causes it to buzz in an annoying way. When I dampen it, it until it stop, the sound is not what I want anymore.
@user-hu4pu5sm1p
@user-hu4pu5sm1p 19 күн бұрын
Got it my friend….what about sympathetic snare buzz from other instruments ? Such as keyboards guitarists …I know the close proximity is the issue but how can we deal with the sometimes overwhelming buzz ?
@bromasi
@bromasi 8 ай бұрын
A new look on snare buzz, for years I never had snare buzz could not Wonder why all these drummers were talking about , and then a hearing test said I had serious hearing problem, hearing aides I had a lot of snare buzz , been fighting it sence.
@veru6907
@veru6907 4 жыл бұрын
My snare buzzes a lot from any of the other drums I gave up at this point
@danyvet1
@danyvet1 4 жыл бұрын
Switching off the wires can be a drama when you forget to switch them on again 😅 happened to me (beginner) at my third gig. The band that was playing before us had no drummer and a guy was filming their gig. My snare wires rang all the time and the guy asked me to turn them off. So I did. After an hour or so we finally started with our performance. Of course I had forgotten that I switched off the wires one hour ago...The first song starts with crossstick, so I didn’t notice the switched off wires during the verse, but when we got to the chorus where I play snare on the head, I heard this unfamiliar sound of my snare without wires and my first thought was, what the hell did the sound guy do to my snare sound?! 😅 until I realized and remembered that I had switched off the wires 🤣 I was laughing tears at every snare hit until the end of the song. A routined drummer would have switched it on while playing, but I was scared that I would miss a hit and loose my timing 😅😅
@Quartiano
@Quartiano 6 жыл бұрын
What does the amount of snare wires do for a snares sound? Not a question about the “buzz” just curious about the actual sound difference between say a 12 strand vs like a 20 strand wire
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! We're working up an in-depth dive into this, but the short of it is more wires = broader, more pillowy snare sound and depending on tuning/tension, some loss of articulation compared to narrower wires with the same tuning/tension. Cheers!
@testabeatdrums
@testabeatdrums 6 жыл бұрын
Alot of great techniques I will for sure apply to make sure my home recording pr that much better. Also for Cody, have you found that deading your tom-toms for live gig helps not just you but FOH as well? I have my toms about dead when playing at one of the gig and it seems to be very effective. And I can hit a little harder lol
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! Honestly I don’t deaden toms live unless it’s for a sound I’m looking for - I’ve never had FOH ask me to do anything to the toms at all and for me I think the larger open sound on stage for loud/large shoes helps the band on stage get more presence out of the drums. I will however listen closely to the sound of the toms in the room before and after they’ve been mic’d and sound checked and see if I hear anything weird in the sustain or overtones. I’ll adjust tuning at that point but still probably not muffle anything. I’d go for heavier or hydraulic heads if overtone control is super important in a certain situation rather than modifying a head that isn’t cutting it :)
@testabeatdrums
@testabeatdrums 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum I got you that's really good stuff thanks guys
@iantkd
@iantkd 5 жыл бұрын
10:17 I think the video should start with this phrase
@alext9558
@alext9558 6 жыл бұрын
to me the initial tom sound tends to bend and is much less pleasant than the second tuning. Am I the only one to feel hear this way? Great informative video btw!!!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! It's definitely a personal preference thing. Some days I want something thuddy, others I want that modern, super clear/pitchy thing. They both work, but neither is best for everything :) Thanks for watching!!
@insertmetalusernamehere
@insertmetalusernamehere 2 жыл бұрын
The buzz is driving me crazy man. I bought a set of pure wire equalizer snare wires and it did not help. I thought my toms sounded like crap until I disengaged the snares. My toms sound fine until the snares are engaged.
@Brosenbrose
@Brosenbrose 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit confused. You lowered the reso head of your tom to the same pitch as the batter to reduce the resonance of the tom? You said it had less sustain after you matched the pitch of the batter and reso. I was under the impression that having the batter and reso heads tuned to the same pitch was the way to get MAXIMUM resonance from the drum? Am I wrong? Can you please explain what I am misunderstanding here?
@djentlover
@djentlover 5 жыл бұрын
I think he's just trying a different potentially good sounding tension on the reso head in order to get it out of the sympathetic range with the bass drum.
@andrewramsby
@andrewramsby 5 жыл бұрын
In theory, if both heads are the same pitch, the wavelengths are the same and therefore resonate together for maximum resonance. If they are a 3rd apart (in the beginning) then the wavelengths are "different" enough and the peaks and valleys fill in and compliment each other to an extent. If they are only a half step apart (2nd tuning) the wavelengths are too similar, but just different enough that they clash with each other and cancel out some resonance. Hope this makes sense!
@LarsHammet-rm8ic
@LarsHammet-rm8ic 4 ай бұрын
My only issue is my snare sounds amazing and it’s so hard for me to tune it the way I like it and for my toms to sound good and my snare to sound good, there’s just a lot of snare buzz
@bradleyamerica941
@bradleyamerica941 2 жыл бұрын
Me: Jeez I wish SLAD had a video about sympathetic snare buzz ... of course they already did it
@BadRonald1
@BadRonald1 4 жыл бұрын
An old man taught me to loosen the 2 lugs at the snare bed and the other 2 as well.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 4 жыл бұрын
Try the opposite sometime (apply a bit of extra tension to the lugs that aren’t adjacent to the snare bed).
@SaneTheBro
@SaneTheBro 4 жыл бұрын
I dont use a resonant head on my rack toms
@theDeathJoy
@theDeathJoy 3 жыл бұрын
My resonants are tuned an octave higher than the batters and yet they have plenty of sustain.
@benjiesantos4228
@benjiesantos4228 5 жыл бұрын
How about a piccolo snare drum?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
With regards to sympathetic snare buzz? I’d say all the same info applies :) -Cody
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