Ep. 17 Drum Hack: Controlling Floor Tom Sustain

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Sounds Like A Drum

Sounds Like A Drum

6 жыл бұрын

Want more sustain from your floor tom without altering its tone? Maybe your floor tom rings for too long but you don't want change the tone. Moon gel is out. Tacs and tape won't save you here. But we've got two drum hacks that can make all the difference in sustain without affecting your tone.
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@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Do you feel like you need more sustain or less sustain from your floor tom?
@tdrum21
@tdrum21 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum mainly less
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer more, as you can take some out, as your video shows, but if your floor tom is dead, it is dead.
@DrummingMan1
@DrummingMan1 6 жыл бұрын
I prefer less in order to capture more tone of that tuningfrom the Shell.
@drummachine86
@drummachine86 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, I grew into liking less ring because 6-7 years back i realized that the kit might have sounded huge from where I was sitting at but 2-3 meters from the kit, it lost articulation. Also, less ring is basically preferred by sound engineers. My quick hack is to put the drumstick bag on the floor tom, it muffles the drum big time but beware of choking it - live, it does not matter that much but would be noticeable in the studio.
@drewconlin9452
@drewconlin9452 6 жыл бұрын
Fascinating. Does it need to be sand or something similar? Or can it just be something weighted?
@zhongxina8426
@zhongxina8426 6 жыл бұрын
this channel is gonna grow BIG
@mattnor
@mattnor 4 жыл бұрын
I just flip one of the floortom legs upsidedown when needed. Very useful in a livesituation where you have zero time retune the drum. The result is less sustain 👌
@C0zyDunt
@C0zyDunt 5 жыл бұрын
Weighting a leg? That's incredible, never thought that would work.
@MD-ru9rr
@MD-ru9rr 4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, my mind is blown
@Hwwadman
@Hwwadman 6 жыл бұрын
I never would have thought about that. This is what I like about your series, that your approach is to work with the drum instead of against it.
@DoeTheJane
@DoeTheJane 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! I would never have guessed that would make such a big difference. I gotta try this! Thank you for the great content you produce :)
@anotheruser6430
@anotheruser6430 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus. I have spent countless hours these last few weeks working on my toms, Completely unable to control my resonance, and all it took was a little weight on the legs. Incredible. Can't believe how effective that was and how hard a tip it was to find. Take my like & subscription.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
We e got lots more where that came from! Please consider supporting our efforts and you’ll get access to our cymbal series if you join our Patreon (link in the video description). Cheers!
@FanaticDrummer
@FanaticDrummer 6 жыл бұрын
I remember watching Thomas Lang drop like 3 cotton balls inside the drum. Thought that was a cool way of getting the instant resonance to drop out, since it cuts out without needing gels or tape for the most part on the batter so you get the true feel.
@oceana101
@oceana101 2 жыл бұрын
the sand bag ..it worked it really worked..no more hours of tuning and changing heads on that darn vibrating to long 14 inch floor tom, thank you i subscribed, cheers
@richboshart1201
@richboshart1201 6 жыл бұрын
Been at this a long time, so few tips are new to me. These were though. Love your videos!
@gmoney1592
@gmoney1592 6 жыл бұрын
Another good video. Extremely helpful stuff we can use . Great ideas . Thx again !!
@1life2pono
@1life2pono 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant!
@Philbiood
@Philbiood 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is amazing tips! Thanks for that!
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 6 жыл бұрын
So I just bought the pearl suspension feet and I placed felts under that and now my floor tom sounds massive! I had no idea, and have been drumming for 10 years. I'm finally happy with my floor tom. I throw moon gel just to control sustain for a bit, but love the deep tone I'm finally able hear. thanks for the info!
@BrodySimpsonDrums
@BrodySimpsonDrums 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video dudes! Seriously loving your content. Stoked to see the channel going so well too!!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for your support, Brody! We really appreciate it.
@vaiano1
@vaiano1 11 ай бұрын
I just watch, I think, 10 to 12 videos now in two days and you just change my life and way to see a drums. I was thinking I knew a lot of stuff about it but now I start to know something about haha. Thank you so much!! ❤❤❤❤
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 11 ай бұрын
We're so glad to hear it! If this really did change your life (and that's a pretty significant impact!) please consider supporting our efforts by joining our Patreon. You'll get access to additional content including our Patreon-exclusive Cymbal Sounds series: sladl.ink/Patreon
@daltonpage240
@daltonpage240 6 жыл бұрын
Great work, please keep it up. You're teaching me a lot
@SimonAspsund
@SimonAspsund 5 жыл бұрын
This was kinda mind-blowing. Good work!
@Pawsey66
@Pawsey66 6 жыл бұрын
This channel continues to blow my mind. Thanks so much guys!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! Spread the word to your drummer and audio engineer friends.
@pumpdumpster
@pumpdumpster 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you, great advice.
@lennelehtonen5207
@lennelehtonen5207 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for new tool to adjust my drum sounds, think this one going to help me a lot! Great job guys!!!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome! Help spread the word to your drummer friends by sharing the channel with them.
@MatthewAtkinsMusic
@MatthewAtkinsMusic 6 жыл бұрын
Just discovered this channel. Great video on floor tom sustain.
@FirstnameLastname-cc2km
@FirstnameLastname-cc2km Жыл бұрын
this gave me the exact sound ive been trying to create , thank you
@bacobill
@bacobill 6 жыл бұрын
Great ideas and tips thank you.. I am experimenting right now.. Love this channel :)
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Bill!
@ctrainugly9332
@ctrainugly9332 6 жыл бұрын
Great videos guy's!!! Thank you :)
@ol4765
@ol4765 5 жыл бұрын
this is awesome!!!!
@Ig-jf6gv
@Ig-jf6gv 5 жыл бұрын
Leave the resonant head on the air tom and take it out at 2 on the floor. Love it hahahaha. Excellent and simple channel. Straight to the point !!
@MrAwesomeSaucesome
@MrAwesomeSaucesome 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this ressource!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Help us spread the word by sharing your favorite videos with your drummer friends.
@DrummingMan1
@DrummingMan1 6 жыл бұрын
Lovely bit of trickery! I would like to see more voodoo controlling sympathetic tones of all drums!
@christopherodonnell1504
@christopherodonnell1504 6 жыл бұрын
Nice trick with the weight! For more resonance, (if you don't have spare cymbal felts) small, cheap kitchen sponges folded in half under each leg works too.
@aidemcilduffdrums4066
@aidemcilduffdrums4066 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant,, this is a great channel. keep it coming.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! New videos every week plus additional stuff on our Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter!
@on_certainty
@on_certainty 4 жыл бұрын
WHAT I am amazed at how extreme the difference makes!
@Lehmann108
@Lehmann108 6 жыл бұрын
Great tip!!
@gillesrichard2228
@gillesrichard2228 3 жыл бұрын
You"ve just solved a problem I had today with a pretty heavy floor tom I have leaning a bit towards me. When I hold the drum in my hand and hit it , it resonates like crazy, but as soon as it"s on its legs, it sounds dead. Your ideas are great for this problem, thanks.
@Chomps182
@Chomps182 5 жыл бұрын
So cool.
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez 6 жыл бұрын
good one... thanks!
@MrNicknayme
@MrNicknayme 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!!
@MUSICTEACHER2012
@MUSICTEACHER2012 5 жыл бұрын
I love sustain.
@dudemanaric
@dudemanaric 3 жыл бұрын
Also sounds better when recorded especially with room audio.
@nathanwalsh3028
@nathanwalsh3028 6 жыл бұрын
Very cool because I like to use a semi wide open kick drum (minimal muffling, tuned for tone) which a lot of times makes my floor Tom's rumble when I hit the bass drum so this trick will definitely help!!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah man! I'm the same way, I like a girthy kick sound with some resonance and it really will get that floor tom going sometimes. :)
@nathanwalsh3028
@nathanwalsh3028 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum You too... I will tell you sometimes in smaller rooms it can definitely be a pain in the ass.... Especially when your line checking your kick drum and you're just doing quarter notes and the floor Tom keeps rumbling after each hit... it's like dude shut up I'm sound checking the bass drum! Lol
@nathanwalsh3028
@nathanwalsh3028 6 жыл бұрын
So a lot of times what I will do is put my hand on the floor Tom when I'm sound checking the drum kit to keep everything from rumbling.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Oh man yeah, absolutely. I'm shocked at how the kick drum (or bass amp at times) can get the floor tom to feed back on itself and go totally berserk! Definitely gone to extremes at times just because of the nature of the room or issues with the micing. Such a fussy thing!
@steazydaystudiosfb9511
@steazydaystudiosfb9511 Жыл бұрын
this has been the vein of my existence for so long that I just stopped using my floor tom because no matter how much I tuned it it would still resonate like crazy
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum Жыл бұрын
Hope this helps you out!
@jonathanfazio6290
@jonathanfazio6290 5 жыл бұрын
This channel is just so helpful thanks for all the tips in these videos!! Another thing that a friend of mine did, was flip one of the floor tom legs over so the straight part of the leg was on the floor and it cut out some sustain as well!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Cheers! Watch out with the inverted floor tom leg- that may rattle and/or start to creep a bit. -Ben
@jonathanfazio6290
@jonathanfazio6290 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum 🤔good call that could be a problem. I’ll mention it to him
@jamiemcparland
@jamiemcparland Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH! My floor tom sustain was driving me fucking nuts!
@keurosen
@keurosen 5 жыл бұрын
Wow 😮 Thanks 👌👍
@nathanhoover6462
@nathanhoover6462 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, subscribed! What should I do if I'm already using moon gel and the floor tom is still ringing (it's a 16" Ludwig Classic Maple). It doesn't happen at home, where we keep the kit in a relatively small and isolated room. But it's been messing up our live mix at venues.
@danyvet1
@danyvet1 4 жыл бұрын
After noticing the difference between no weight and sandbag against the leg, I wonder if my stickbag hanging on the floortom (not much weight, but touching the shell over approx. 25% percent) does anything to the resonance. Gotta check that. Love your videos, I learn so much through them 👍
@miyahollands6136
@miyahollands6136 4 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff! My floor tom suffers from over-tone, which has a pitch change towards the end. The sand bag is something I'm going to have to try. Got me thinking thou 🤔 how about tapping the legs? That should add some form of resistance against the sustained, which will work like a sand bag, but doesn't need to be setup everytime you set the kit up at a gig!
@yourbuddykevin
@yourbuddykevin 6 жыл бұрын
just came from your other video off your suggestion. I'm going to try the felts on my floor tom legs. I can't get them to ring out.
@gillesrichard2228
@gillesrichard2228 3 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a great drum kit but I could not get the floor tom to resonate. I tried your idea of placing cymbal felts under the feet and wow what a difference. Now all the drums sound great. Thanks for the great advice and your fantastic videos, very informative.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! If you're looking for a more permanent solution, we've really come to love Booty Shakers: tnrproducts.com/shop/original-booty-shakers-black/
@jebmcgovern3744
@jebmcgovern3744 6 жыл бұрын
Another great one. I gotta 60's 16in. luddy in a Nola shotgun. Hardwood floor, 15 ft. tall ceilings and when playing alone I love the drone of that drum but I can see a new use for my sandbags. I bet a weight for a microphone stand would work too. Time to experiment.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Nice! Yep, any weight will do, though the sandbags definitely offer a nice degree of adjustability. Of course, any other weights should be wrapped in a towel or placed in a drum case to prevent metal-on-metal (unless you're getting really experimental... 🤓)
@EdwardAllenCanada
@EdwardAllenCanada 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! ( have you ever thought of displaying the sound waves to help illustrate issues like sustain ? I say this as it’s not always easy to detect the subtle ringing tones after the beat when watching) thx again for the excellent quality content 👍🏼🥁👍🏼
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's something I've considered but we want you to focus on the sound. We may do frequency spectrum analysis in the future when applicable but this is all about the sound, not what it looks like. Cheers! -Ben
@Quartiano
@Quartiano 6 жыл бұрын
Would adding a vent hole to the actual drum help decrease resonance? I thought maybe because air and sound would be let out of the drum quicker the sound would decay faster?
@tdrum21
@tdrum21 6 жыл бұрын
Great hack
@DrGray_Drummer
@DrGray_Drummer 4 жыл бұрын
I like what Tama did with the air filled, tom leg air pockets. Actually, I think Tama has become the industry leaders with all their hardware.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 4 жыл бұрын
Those are really something- almost too much sustain for some of the recording scenarios we've been in with them. I made use of the cotton ball hack specifically to cut down on the sustain from a set of those. Still, super cool tech! -Ben
@morganwheeler3194
@morganwheeler3194 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid man 👍 also first comment :)
@lamanonegra8380
@lamanonegra8380 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, never even heard of sandbags before. Can you get them from a music store and which brand makes ready ones? Also wonder what’s typical weight-wise?
@Devon523
@Devon523 5 жыл бұрын
This has quickly become one of my top 3 favorite drum channels. This has been a really big problem for me. I love where my floor Tom is tunes, sounds perfect! But it hums for DAYS!!! And the kick sets it off too. I’m gonna try this. I also wonder what the effect of having something hanging against the shell would be, like my stick bag? Should have a similar effect in keeping the shell from vibrating as much right?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Yup! Hanging stick bag is a great solution too 👍🏻 -Cody
@jkanusky
@jkanusky 6 жыл бұрын
Cody is a drum scientist 🥁👨‍🔬👍
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha thanks man :) putting my private nerding to good use finally!
@stevem6869
@stevem6869 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite drummers was Jim Gordon and he has this incredible floor tom sound that he gets on fills where the pitch of the tom bends. Particularly on Johnny Rivers song "Rocking Pneumonia And The Boggie Woggie Flu". Do you know how this is achieved? This was recorded before Pro Tools was available so the bend of the toms on his fills were real time recording. I just thought I'd see if you know what I am referring to. It's such a cool sound.
@rapscallion52
@rapscallion52 6 жыл бұрын
lightbulb! got my leg weights by the kit, warm up with those, take em off and put em on the floor tom legs to cut down that ring!
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Bretton M Oh man, perfect!
@CarlNagy
@CarlNagy 6 жыл бұрын
You guys make the best videos :) Any ideas for a 14" hanging floor tom that rings too much? It's a thin maple shell and I love the sound of it but it just goes on forever no matter how I tune it or what heads I use... Bearing edges have also been professionally cut to a roundover 45. Perhaps adding some legs would help instead of mounting it on the "floating" Pearl optimount?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
I have a hanging 16" with the Pearl Optimount and the sandbag/mass trick still works. You may need to apply mass directly onto the tom arm/bracket but it'll still do the trick. Be careful to make sure that the hardware can support that amount of weight though. You may want to experiment with different amounts of mass in addition to placement.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thomas- This is another good approach, though it can be a real hassle to dial in, as you need to remove the head and completely retune the drum and that's assuming you get it "right" the first time. You don't always have that kind of time to kill in a studio session.
@CarlNagy
@CarlNagy 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the responses guys. I'll probably try both methods 🙂
@MatthewAtkinsMusic
@MatthewAtkinsMusic 6 жыл бұрын
I use backline kits most of the time, and I find that where the drum sits on the mount can also have a large and immediate effect on the sustain. For example, Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute toms are the most common backline I run into. Simply sliding the drum further onto, or off of the hexagonal mount can make a big difference, with no addition of any external dampening. This is not as true with suspension systems like the Pearl Optimount etc.
@solidpotatosalad
@solidpotatosalad 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! I think hooking stick bag on floor tom can also control sustain
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Any extra mass that anchors the drum will shorten sustain.
@daltonpage240
@daltonpage240 6 жыл бұрын
And some dampening stuff too. Just trying to give some ideas, these are just some stuff I need to know
@westerlu77
@westerlu77 6 жыл бұрын
I really like this channel, great job! What kind of sand bag is it? Made yourself? Best regards from Sweden.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! That's just a standard sand bag that you might find at a venue or studio for holding down lighting gear, mic stands, etc.
@maluorno
@maluorno 5 жыл бұрын
I have a rim mount for my floor tom. BOOOOMY
@iiWNMii
@iiWNMii 3 жыл бұрын
"Rock stops" used by cellists and bass players could easily keep floor tom legs elevated.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
For commercial products we swear by the Booty Shakers from TnR Products.
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 6 жыл бұрын
Truth! I have a 1966 Ludwig Club Date 14" floor Tom that sounds very choked with the original legs, which are the old straight-leg, clip and spring devices without wing nuts. But hang it on a suspension mount and it comes alive. Doesn't even sound like the same drum. I'm going to use cymbal felts as mentioned and see if there is any difference in the sound.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah man those are notorious, for sure. Let us know how it goes!
@biggoosetravels5806
@biggoosetravels5806 6 жыл бұрын
i have the same drum, and I can't get it to stop ringing. Interesting.
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 6 жыл бұрын
Let's swap! All kidding aside, I think my tom legs bind the shell, somehow. Really has a drastic difference in sound when it is mounted on a suspension mount. I am interested to see if cymbal felts or another isolation method helps the sound while it is on the legs.
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 5 жыл бұрын
Follow up on choking from Club Date floor Tom legs: I experimented today on a concrete floor (so no resonance added by the floor, and nothing to interfere with a hard floor contact) by placing a 14" 1966 Club Date floor tom on the floor as-is, which gave a very choked sound, as expected. I then put a piece of .5 inch thick, light open cell foam, doubled over to be one inch thick, under each leg. The difference was astounding. Great improvement in resonance, the drum sounded like it was on a RIMS mount. That amount of foam was nearly, but not entirely, compressed, so the drum was riding on the foam but not wiggling. So three bits of foam are now in my snare case when I use the Club Dates.
@tobiasheinzel007
@tobiasheinzel007 5 жыл бұрын
Benny Greb Said in a clinic that he uses cotton balls inside the floor Tom, so I tried it out and really really like it, since you can control the amount of sustain with the amount of cottonballs
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
That's a great approach too, though it take s a bit more work to remove them if you want to revert back to a previous sound (particularly in a studio environment). We like this method as it's completely external.
@tobiasheinzel007
@tobiasheinzel007 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum check out one of the Meinl Cymbal Videos with him the Floor Tom sounds out of this world 😍
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Yep! We know the videos you're talking about. Of course, those are also close mic'd, EQ'd, and compressed for a very produced tone. You can get away with significantly more muffling when there's compression applied that will help to accentuate the roundness of the tone.
@tobiasheinzel007
@tobiasheinzel007 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum yeah I figured aswell that they massively eq‘d, I’m very amazed how much of gear knowledge and technical knowledge you guys have! Definitely going to try out your technique 👍🏻
@MarcusFinnie
@MarcusFinnie 5 жыл бұрын
Man Ive been putting felts under the legs for a few years due to dealing with backline kits a majority of dates I do. Its started with tuning a floor tom and it kept choking and when i picked it up and hit, it sang. Put it on the floor and it choked. So I took the emad muffle and tore them in to 2x2 squares and put those under the fl tom feet and it worked. From there on I'd use felts OR taking napkins and folding them into squares, gaffing them as solid little floaters and use those and works all the time. Folded towels, too. Thank you for sharing this.Would you say the floor tom leg turn works in shortening sustains?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Way cool! What are you referring to with the "floor tom leg turn"?
@MarcusFinnie
@MarcusFinnie 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum I’ve been told if you turn one leg inward, it shortens the sustain. I’ve had no luck with that so I don’t know. Was just curious if you’d heard of it.
@drumz4life679
@drumz4life679 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best ways to control/shorten the floor tom sustain is to simply put 1 square of toilet paper (2 max) inside the drum. The TP will lay on the reso head and apply the perfect amount of dampening to the note without really changing the tonal characteristics of the drum very much. Just my $.02
@kyleolin3566
@kyleolin3566 5 жыл бұрын
Costs less then $.02 too.
@paulgeorgmusic
@paulgeorgmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Love this channel.
@askestergaard3049
@askestergaard3049 6 жыл бұрын
great tip. but does is work with anything else than sandbags?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
The idea is to apply mass to anchor the drum. Sandbags and/or stage weights can be found at almost any venue and every studio. In a pinch, putting some weight in a snare case can have a similar effect.
@askestergaard3049
@askestergaard3049 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot
@jensharald9091
@jensharald9091 5 жыл бұрын
I've heard of people throwing balls of paper down the floor tom if they want tone but don't want it to ring
@peterbull3955
@peterbull3955 6 жыл бұрын
Who knew!!!
@kapalin846
@kapalin846 6 жыл бұрын
I built my own custom kit with 6 ply Keller shells plus 6 ply rings. There’s an inner 45 cut and a rounded over outer edge with a flat edge. Compared to the double 45 edge kits I’ve played, they’re much fatter, woodier, and drier. The range isn’t as wide but they’re quicker to tune and less finicky. The sound behind the kit is almost identical to how it sounds out front, meaning there aren’t all these extra overtones that you only hear behind the kit *cough* DW *cough*. Same principles apply to the old Slingerland and Ludwig’s. I wish that these rounder edges would make a comeback in today’s market! But it’s not for everyone I suppose.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Different strokes (edges) for different folks!
@kapalin846
@kapalin846 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds Like A Drum Indeed. Keep the videos coming, they’re original and informative.
@franktatom1837
@franktatom1837 6 жыл бұрын
Barren Savant I have owned a number of drums with various edges, ranging from a 30 degree round over to a 45 degree sharp edge on the outer ply with no countercut whatsoever, and I'm in your camp. Subjectively, I find the tone of drums with a bearing edge that has a rounded countercut to be more mellow and musical. And other non-drummers I have played with in acoustic settings have noticed the difference, as well.
@joshuastaggs1469
@joshuastaggs1469 5 жыл бұрын
What about mounted floor toms?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
That's definitely worth addressing in a future video. Thanks for the feedback! -Ben
@maxjacobs5874
@maxjacobs5874 6 жыл бұрын
I had the bass amp feed back problem and I couldn't figure it out.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
It can be a tough one if the amp is right near/pointed at you. Some of this can't be helped much by tuning and will require adjusting the angle of the amp and/or just coping with it.
@denogowli
@denogowli 6 жыл бұрын
Db and F is a major third not a minor third right?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Yep, definitely is :) Long shoot and too much coffee on the brain right there LOL
@dudemanaric
@dudemanaric 4 жыл бұрын
You can reverse a leg or three to ground the drum more and kill sustain
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 4 жыл бұрын
Yes though, depending on the floor, that may create rattle and/or drum creep.
@daltonpage240
@daltonpage240 6 жыл бұрын
Do bass drum next. And possibly get to some cymbal stuff?
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Bass drum tuning will be coming up soon. Cymbals will be a large topic to take on later this year and into 2019.
@diedraak1
@diedraak1 6 жыл бұрын
Can’t sustain be controlled by top/ bottom head interval? Larger interval= less sustain?
@biggoosetravels5806
@biggoosetravels5806 6 жыл бұрын
also curious about this
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
To a certain degree, yes. Though this will also alter the tone of the drum. Adding mass or suspending the legs will allow you to control sustain independently of tonal modifications.
@diedraak1
@diedraak1 6 жыл бұрын
So Are you saying, find a likeable relation, say minor 3rd, between top and bottom heads, and adjust sustain with head choice? Maybe go to a coated G2 on the bottom? Please elaborate.
@biggoosetravels5806
@biggoosetravels5806 6 жыл бұрын
diedraak1 I threw a coated g2 on the bottom head of my 14 inch club date and I only got overtones out of the drum. no actual drum noise.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Dillon- That's likely because you had too much mass you'd need to move in order to get the resonant head vibrating. As a result, you were only really hearing the impact and a bit of resonance from the batter head and/or overtone from the resonant head.
@zhongxina8426
@zhongxina8426 5 жыл бұрын
4:35 your animations just got drunk 🤣🤣🤣
@cilius88
@cilius88 6 жыл бұрын
My floor tom is the one drum that I just can't get the sound right. I can't wait to try these later.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Let us know how this works for you. Still, you'll have to get it tuned to provide the tone you're looking for but this will help control the sustain. Cheers!
@oceana101
@oceana101 2 жыл бұрын
someone should market tom bags $$$$
@benjifigueroa9737
@benjifigueroa9737 6 жыл бұрын
😰 Wow!! I never came to thought about weight on the legs. In the first example, I noticed that it created lots of disonances within the shell which clashed toghether and canceled the resonance quickly. I think a stick bag around the floor tom might also do the trick, right? I think it's how tunning works too, right? Do we seek for disonances between heads for more 'thud' and less resonance and vice versa? Please, correct me if I'm wrong.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
Hey there! Yes in the first (extreme) example you can definitely hear some dissonance. I don’t think that’s really what we want to go after if we’re after more thud necessarily but it can accentuate that part of the sound. I’d never put THAT much weight on there in a real situation, the later more subtle use of the sandbag is more my speed. If you have a good sized stick bag that’d have a noticeable effect too!
@rideforlifevegasgregoryd4224
@rideforlifevegasgregoryd4224 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously you are unable to tune or purchase the correct heads for your Ply, Diameter and depth of each drum per Reso and Batter heads.
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
Oh? How so? We're able to purchase any drumhead we'd like. This hack allows for literally the most immediate AND significant change in sustain while maintaining the same quality of tone. Consider the practical applications (we've encountered both of these): When you get to sound check and the floor tom sounds great but sustains for too long or you're getting sounds for a session and the engineer remarks that the floor tom is just going wild beyond the close mics, this does the trick.
@KongBraach
@KongBraach 6 жыл бұрын
Db and F is not a minor third...
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 6 жыл бұрын
*Major 3rd (too much coffee on set 😬)
@allancueto22
@allancueto22 5 жыл бұрын
What if my floor tom have no legs? 😆.. it's on a clamp 😥
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 5 жыл бұрын
Are you seeking more or less sustain?
@allancueto22
@allancueto22 5 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum More! , the head i have is a remo ambassador coated and it's really hard to tune and the sound it's dead! (the head is old, that's maybe why)
@Stavros_Meggos
@Stavros_Meggos 5 жыл бұрын
Really..? was that simple? haha I'm gonna hang my drumsticks on it! Done! :)
@shanejohnson7603
@shanejohnson7603 3 жыл бұрын
Sandbags?..crazy!...all you need to do is put a suppression pad on the floor directly underneath the drum...problem solved...sandbags hanging on a floor tom kills the sound...you can hear it immediately here...🤔
@SoundsLikeADrum
@SoundsLikeADrum 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the sandbag did exactly what we wanted it to do- shorten the sustain without dramatically influencing the timbre. A suppression pad affects the tone of the drum too much to do what we were looking for here. Cheers!
@shanejohnson7603
@shanejohnson7603 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoundsLikeADrum ok great...I'm going to try this out 🥁
@edukacja2485
@edukacja2485 2 жыл бұрын
Actually we, live engineers, always put gates on close drum mics. Sorry, but that's the practical truth 🤷🏻‍♂️
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