My folks were kids during the Great Depression. Because of that they felt it was important that our family had a milk cow. That cow provided our 7 member family with milk and butter. The cow also provided us with meat. Every year the cow had a calf. Our cow gave so much milk we bought a second calf from a local dairy. So this cow fed a family of 7, two calves and we also sold gallons of milk to 2 additional families. We did not pasteurize our milk. Our cow’s milk was consistently tested and was always good. We made cottage cheese sometimes but not consistently. There was 3 or 4 inches of cream on every gallon of milk. We only skimmed cream off when we needed to make butter. I really don’t know why I felt the need to tell anyone this except to say there are healthy ways to consume milk products. Our family cow was a significant contributor to the health and well being of 3 families. When my folks were broke we never went hungry directly related to owning a milk cow.

My dad grew up on a dairy farm so was used to milk straight from the source. When I was growing up he would never ever drink any milk from the grocery store, he said it tastes like "sugar water"!!

I remember the milkman delivering glass bottles of milk and there was a 2 inch layer of cream on the top 😍 Am I showing my age 😂 🇬🇧

I eat several ounces of cheese (the high-quality French stuff) every morning, and I eat it with ... butter. This combo is delicious, full of nutrients, extremely filling - and you don't get constipated. With all this fat, I end up eating a lot less of everything else and I'm losing weight without even trying.

Cabots Greek yogurt has 10% fat! Thick as frozen ice cream! Tastes great!

I love milk, yogurt, cheese and whey. My grandmother lived to 102 and drank milk daily. I was raised on it and going strong at 66 years old! Thank you for clarifying.

My 45 year old son was even a chronic vomiter from my breast milk. He would bring up curdled milk after every 2 hourly feed, till I gave up after 6 months trying, he was underweight till I gave him food to eat. Vegetables and bone broth , now he thrives without any dairy, but has goats cheese. Shame the doctors told me human babies are not allergic to human milk! He was. Thank you for all your valuable videos, I love your channel, you are very honest. From Perth West Australia.

The most reasonable discussion of dairy I've yet seen. One consideration: Beware of emulsifiers such as Carrageenan. They apparently can emulsify your mucus layer. Some people think they are allergic or sensitive to dairy, when it's actually the additives added in that are causing problems.

I'm old enough to remember the five pound blocks of government cheddar cheese given away free during the Reagan admin. We ate nachos with cheese for days....

At last a doctor confirms what my gut (no pun intended) feeling had been saying all my life! I grew up on (South African) milk (2 to 4 cups full cream/day every day, long life from Spar) and ALL my blood levels were within normal ranges when I took part in a medical trial at age 43. Always weighed around 65 kg - moved to Canada in 2012 and ended up at 85kg in 2019 but since I started keto, lost 13kg so far. I luv cheese and eggs too. And ALL my blood levels are still fine! And, I weaned my babies at age 6 months from breast to cow's milk, and they have never been sick either. The rubbish that's in formula! Baie dankie en groete!

~ I use heavy cream in my coffee ... '☕😘👌

I love cheese. Its like having a dessert.

We're lucky enough to have raw milk available to us from our local milking parlour. It's even better because we need a ten minute walk to collect it. It's provided in glass bottles which can be taken back to be cleaned and re-used. Thanks for this video. Answered a lot of questions.

I love the Gentleman, he says everything I want to hear ! 😊 I'm a milk drinking carnavore!

I milk my housecow each morning, make cream, butter and cheese (hubs isn't keto so uses it in coffee). Always raw. Please note pasteurization alters protein/calcium matrix to the extent that you have to add extra calcium to the milk to get cheese curd to set properly.

I am scrupulously clean when it comes to milking my goats/sheep. Teats are cleaned before and after. Hands are super clean. Buckets are sterilized. Milk is strained and refrigerated straight away. No pasteurization because most is used for making cheese. I usually don't drink the excess milk because I don't like the taste of any milk. My neighbors love it though.

Your info is pure gold!!! Seriously you are the cream dela cream, your reasonings are very intelligent.

Breastmilk content is also adjusted daily by the mothers system based on the content of the babies saliva that is absorbed and used by the body to recalibrate breast milk's content...it is always exactly what the baby needs!!

One thing you’ve missed off is kefir. I make homemade kefir with raw A2 grass fed full fat milk. I double ferment each batch over two days. I then semi freeze the kefir with some blackberries and sometimes strawberries with chia seeds before eating. This has incredible benefits. You get all the good fats, the sugars have been eaten away by the bacteria, it’s a probiotic and is an excellent source of vitamins including B12. You can also add a little bit of green stevia or monk fruit of the taste is a bit too sour. It’s superb.

I'm from Wisconsin. I love cheese and butter and tolerate it just fine🧀🧈

The idea that removing cream from milk is healthier, stems from the fact that you can then sell that cream at even higher profit. What is worse than adding cane sugar is adding high fructose corn syrup - the American standard for all food products, it seems.

I found a couple of quality yogurts at Whole Foods that are full fat, organic, grassfed products. I also use heavy whipping cream, and other full fat, organic dairy including butter, from Kalona. Great products. The Cornucopia Institute (access online) has a dairy scorecard that ranks many farms around the country using a wide range of criteria that can be used to help find quality and humanely raised dairy products. Most conventional grocery stores don't carry quality dairy.

ive been keto for 2 years and was given milk in a coffee shop by mistake, I couldnt believe how sweet it was

Love milk and all dairy but had been barely managing on 80 mg of Nexium a day for stomach burning and pain. Had given up wheat, corn and soy years ago but never could get off acid suppressing meds even though I tried weaning down for months each time (and trying Pepcid and other drugs, to no avail). After an endoscopy the dr. said I had autoimmune gastritis. I don't know what it was but I got off all dairy. I was desperate for relief from gastric pain. Within 2 weeks I was off Nexium and acid suppressing meds. What a HUGE relief. I miss my dairy but I don't miss the pain and the damage long-term Nexium use was doing to me.

I eat about 4 ounces of cheese with every meal , twice a day. I have gotten into the habit of shopping at whole foods and trader Joe's, alot higher quality stuff than you get at Walmart or kroger

Born and raised in the Netherlands, eating and drinking dairy straight from the farmer has given me such a great advantages. Reduced the intake of milk ( almost none) but still going for hard and good cheeses. Boogie

Heavy whipping cream for my coffee. One table spoon is 50 calories and NO CARBS!

Hey Doc, I've significantly reduced carbs even before seeing your videos, but started a keto diet / lifestyle about a week ago and I'm feeling pretty good. It's easy to get 14-16 hours without even thinking of food when the fat is adjusted correctly. Just wanted to say you are making a real and important change in people! Thank you!

I’m from 🇬🇧 and consume the following dairy products: Kefir (unsweetened) Full fat 🧀 (Stilton, Gorgonzola, Dolcelatte, Parmesan, Brie, Goats cheese, Feta, Halloumi, cream cheese, occasionally mozzarella, ricotta, marscapone and extra mature cheddars) Full fat Greek yoghurt (unsweetened) Extra thick double cream Sour cream (cooking only) I find normal cows milk gives me runny stools and upset stomach and so I avoid it.

Hi Dr cywes, so glad I found you again. OMG, 12 years ago you changed my life and I see in this space were going to help me make some updates and adjustment.

FAGE whole milk yogurt..... awesome

I believe Trader Joes used to have really good whole milk yogurt. But haven't checked recently. Your explanation about dairy has FINALLY cleared up the craziness for me! You didn't mention cottage cheese. But I SUSPECT it has the effect of making me feel "high" as you mentioned. Wish you had explained the mechanism of why it causes constipation? Great video!

If you want yogurt in the US, "Two Good" is a great pick. 2 carbs listed. Sweetened with erythritol. Nowhere near as sweet as regular yogurt, but it's relatively thick, and It hits a real spot for me.

It's worth pointing out that human genetic adaptation to allow lactase production to digest milk lactose as adults has occurred several times, independently of each other. That's indicative of strong evolutionary pressure. It shows that dairy was important for survival to our ancestors. Also, if someone ceases all dairy for a significant amount of time (varies, according to the person), maybe for a year or more, then the body will cease to produce lactase - permanently. In order to continue to produce lactase as adults, the stimulus of ingesting at least some lactose is needed. This has been known for decades, but among keto guys, it doesn't seem to be common knowledge.

Just such smart advice. By the way, Dr Cywes: look for Brown Cow Plain Cream on the top yogurt. Take a hand mixer w only 1 beater in it and blend thoroughly once opened. It will be and stay a super silky, fluid texture. This is as close to a good European Bulgarian-style yogurt as I have found.

I noticed my weightloss stalled when i drank whole milk and ate cream cheese. I love them though , maybe i will indulge once at maintenance weight

I have 100% found the opposite to be true with myself and nearly every single one of my keto and carnivore clients. Butter is the only dairy the majority of people can have without an insulin response Myself and many of my clients wear a CGM

Making your own yogurt is the way to go, it is so easy, even I can do it! Full fat, zero sugar, great taste. I use a probiotic that includes l. Ruteri as a starter.

I am happy to have found this video to share with my husband who shared a couple others by Doc Rob. We are fortunate to have a local dairy, cows are all grass-fed, babies get their milk first and the cows are only milked once a day. The milk I buy from them is raw, full fat with a thick layer of cream on the top. Their yogurt is made with this same milk and has a thick layer of cream I have to stir into the yogurt. Zero sugar added, nothing extra added except the necessary cultures. I sometimes make my own yogurt using beef gelatin from this raw milk so I do not have to pasteurize it at all and it sets up nice and thick. I am not a milk drinker but hubby is so I make sure he has this. I do buy a low-temp pasteurized A2/A2 milk, full fat out of southern CO for my hot mocha again with a thick layer of cream on the top. I also use their A2/A2 heavy cream when I make butter chicken.

As a kid we had Jersey and Gernsy milk cows for 8 years. Then I went off to college and then got married. After I left the farm except for a short period of time about 7 yrs ago where I tried raw milk but location too far, had the store bought stuff. I’ve since learned there is the A1 casine ( Holstein cow which is store milk) and A2 casine which is from a cow like our Jersey. People who have problems with the A1 can sometimes drink A2 milk without any problems. The same goes for eating wheat product in Italy but then coming back to the states in those with gluten issues can’t eat bread and wheat products in the states. Because here we have hybridized wheat and over there they don’t

I like "Half & Half" instead of whole milk in my coffee. And real Greek yogurt - lots of protein and fat. Helped me overcome insulin resistance, along with replacing Weetabix and with eggs/cheese cooked in butter every morning.

I have a reaction where I get sinus issues with post nasal drip and then I get chronic sinus infections. I only discovered this when I went vegan. I finally changed over to Keto and then started adding some cheese back into my diet and my sinuses were affected again so I obviously have a reaction to it. I never went back to milk or cream and stuck with almond milk in my coffee. I’ve heard other people have sinus issues as well from dairy.

wonder how many listeners will miss "EVERY NOW AND THEN" and "STAY AWAY FROM MILK AS YOU TRANSITION"

Cheese is a slippery slope for me. Especially if I combine a good piece of cheese with macadamia nuts. Eaten together it’s like cheese popcorn to me.

Thanks Doc. That was very helpful and cleared up some confusion I had. I think there were some butterflies 🦋 behind you in your garden. Lovely.

Loved this vid. Thx Greetings form Brazil :-)

Thank you 😊 I have a hard time getting my fat in if I try to move away from dairy. I use 33% sour cream, butter, cheese and whipping cream to get my fat in on carnivore. 4.5 months carnivore after a year of low carb high fat to keto. I know everyone recommends suet or duck fat, but that’s not readily available or in my budget. As for milk, I can’t drink regular skim of any sort. But I have discovered that I can thin out whipping cream to satisfy the craving for milk. I use ¼ cup whipping cream in a 2 cup glass and top it with tap water. Sometimes if I'm craving something sweet I add some stevia and vanilla.

Great discussion. As you know here in South Africa “long life milk” is a popular choice. That can’t be good for you.

Cabot makes a whole milk plain Greek yogurt with 10% milkfat and their products are sold at my local Walmart. You can go to their website, pick that product and see if it's sold near you.

Probably the best video I've seen about milk, and I've looked into the issue. Thank you.

Really interesting. First time watching. I started going Keto phasing in from January and strict (trying to) from about March. I struggled with terrible carb addiction. I find like the addiction never really goes so I find for myself that it is so true that I have to avoid triggering it. I have been doing well but couldn't get a proper answer about milk. I think I get why I am struggling with it. I only allowed myself one cup of coffee late afternoon with milk. With my carb addiction problems (cravings) it is probably best to avoid milk then. This was an answer for me

Thank you for addressing casein,I only buy Jersey A2 milk for my family.

I discovered, at the ripe old age of 65 that milk was causing my arthritis in my knees when I gave it up. Whether it was the Lactose or the proteins in the milk I have no idea but cheese, butter and cream has no effect on me. Now at 68 I still don't drink milk.

What’s bizarre is that I JUST started eating a small amount of Greek yogurt and somehow..it actually IMPROVED my gastritis and gastroparesis and actually made me more regular with less heartburn and diarrhea! I don’t know if it’s the amounts of probiotics in it but it’s working and I’ll stick with a little at a time!😮

There are a number of good yogurt brands available in the US if you look for them--Fage, Wallaby, Siggis, Skyr, Nancy's... and more. But a lot of them are produced out of the country. You can also easily make your own, especially with an Instant Pot with whole milk and 2 T of plain yogurt per gallon of milk. You can also make ice cream and not put any sweeteners in (or if it works for you, honey or 100% maple).

Dividing nutrition from hydration is positively genius. I would just feel so dried up at night first thing I grab is milk I hadn't noticed how much of it I can drink, my goshness. I used to go for water more but it keeps feeling like I need something that milk has, maybe the thickness to feel better or something and then I got a kid (the kids a boy) I think he takes it in too but I had been kind of winded yesterday and I just needed to get back home asap I did experience nausea. I think I don't eat much of fruits or meats and I don't do a lot of grains either. Just like fruits don't fill and veggies really don't. Meat, nuts those are more filling for me than anything else. I just like milk though especially whole milk.

Loved this. Part of the biggest issue I see in the US is that we use the wrong cow for milking here. Frankly, we use goat milk at our home. We can get raw and or whole milk that has been lightly pasteurized. No sugars added to our dairy. 😊

Thank you!

I remember growing up eating and drinking milk from the cow that was grass fed. We did not have proplblem

I've been binge watching your vids doc. Have an appointment with you in June of 2024 (I came to realize quickly you're an internet sensation and there's a ton of demand for a consult) and very much looking forward to it. I'm 6'3, 203 lbs., lean & muscular and physically active. 49 years old. I've been consuming a glass of non-pasteurized milk almost every day and I put non-pasteurized cream in my morning coffee for about a month now. Always from the same source that a friend of mine introduced me to where she's been getting hers for over a year now. She's never gotten sick from it and to date neither have I. It's a part of one of my 2 daily meals and always at the end of consuming my meat and light serving of veggies. Delicious and that final touch for satiety.

Milk only comes from mammals. All these different things they're trying to call milk are so irritating because almond just does not make milk and neither does soy or oats. There is an American yogurt called Brown Cow, Cream Top, whole milk yogurt. If you buy the plain one it doesn't have any sugar added. It's creamy and delicious, with an extra layer of creamy yogurt at the top. I didn't pick it up when I saw that it was in stock, because it really has the same carbohydrates as a glass of milk. And I guess I thought yogurt would have less carbohydrates. So I just stuck to my milk. Whole of course. I did buy some heavy cream to go with it but it turns out that I had to take it back because I didn't read the label till I got home and ended up it had mono and diglycerides in it and that stuff is poison. Lesson learned, read every label even if you think it's a whole food. It may have been tampered with by the food demons.

Excellent video! You have supported every single point of my theories. I shared on all my social media.

Excellent ❤

I'm in the USA & we can easily buy "whole" milk plain yogurt and whole milk low-temp pasteurized non-homogenized grass fed cow milk, so I make my own yogurt with the glass bottled milk. The milk is about $11/gallon so we don't get as much milk as we used to and I have the homemade yogurt with keto toppings or occasionally raw honey from my bees & cinnamon. Keto granola with the dried strawberries was amazing as a mug of "cereal" and yogurt topping.

how about lard and tallow, I've read saturated fat is very protective for your body

Whole milk is only about 3.5% fat, hardly as fat as many people think. I make yogurt from either goats milk or raw cream; extremely easy to make.

I love my yogurt, but since I'm in the US and can't find full fat non sweetened yogurt, I make a point to stir in a large glug of heavy whipping cream each time I have it. Makes it taste a lot better too!

Great video. Thank you Dr. Cywes.

I had some double cream cottage cheese once from Target. It was delicious 😋✨Good Culture brand!

Great information! Thank you Doctor.

Doc Rob sips Cappuccino & heavy cream straight face... "Didn't die of obesity right there!" 😂🤣

I enjoyed making full cream raw milk kefir with live kefir grains. The microbes of the kefir grains consume lactose for their nutrients, sigificantly reducing the lactose content. Ive learned to enjoy it plain, adding a few Tablespoons of chia seeds per quart to sit for a few hours or overnight. The acidic medium neutralizes the lectins in the chia seeds as well. Lovely.

There is youtube "keto/low carb expert" who I used to watch sometimes. He made an off the cuff remark in one video that we should not eat any dairy at all because "some people have issues with dairy." That was so unhelpful. I should not eat dairy because some people have issues with it? I unsubscribed. I would be open to the idea that I might need to give it up if I thought it was going to to prevent me from reaching my goals. But I am not giving it up because some people have issues with it.

For me its Full Cream, Butter for cooking/frying and Cheeses that are low in carbs.Skim milk is essentially a coke with 10gm of sugars per 100ml not much better than coke other than possibly some vitamins/minerals if they're not stolen as well...Lost nearly 40kg since beginning of the year had a plateau for sometime and cutting back on dairy has helped. Cant do black coffee though.....

I always wake up stuffy if I have any dairy the night before. I only ever wake up with clear nasal passages if I ate zero-carb, carnivore the day before.

Your so right about the facts. It gets so confusing at times

That provided a lot of clarity. I drink a little full cream milk in my coffee (about 3 cups a day). I eat cheese, especially Feta in salads. Full fat plain yoghurt perhaps once a week. I mix the flesh of one passion fruit into the yoghurt to give it a nice tangy taste.

I love Fairlife whole milk. It is lower carb, like 6 compared to 11 or 12. I dont drink a lot of it, but when i really want a bit of milk, that's my go to.

I have avoided milk since I got Covid last year. I was already lactose intolerant past a certain point (forget drinking a big glass of milk unless I want to be a blimp), but since covid I can't even have enough milk to eat with cereal. Now that I'm a ketogenarian 😉 I have heavy cream and cheeses, but I avoid milk. And for the first time in my life, I'm not plagued by gas half the day. I also have less pain. I have fibromyalgia, but now my baseline pain is gone. I still have pain, but it comes and goes instead of sticking around the whole day like before. I've been on a ketogenic diet for a month now, and I've lost five pounds. Sometimes I'm tempted to have carbs, but I know the pain will come back and it's just not worth it.

Must admit I love Cornish Clotted Cream (or Jersey) and different types of blue cheese + organic butters, not really into milk per se though I wouldn't run a mile from it. I agree, it is so hard to find yoghurt in shops that are not packed with sugars as well as 0% fat ... awful stuff, certain you used to be able to get full fat and no sugar yoghurts in the UK

The oestrogen is a concern too. I wish you addressed this.

Just omitted dairy from my keto life. I hadn't noticed how cheese,yoghurt and milk heavy my diet had become.(Because Im oxalate sensitive.) Leaning harder into meat and token low carb vegies and activated nuts. Going to experiment with hemp protein to make muffins and shakes and occasional yummies. Macadamia nut milk for coffee is bloody awesome. thank god!

"Bart? What is it called when something ain't exactly cheese, but ain't exactly milk?" Together: "Cottage cheese!!"

Great topic, thank you!

I like kefir. I make it myself from whole cow's milk using kefir grains so I know there is no added sugar. It is delicious.

Hello from Texas, I’m loving your videos.... finally information presented so a layman can understand

So helpful...thank you...👍👍👏🙏

I like gouda cheese with saerkraut

I have a very bad relationship with milk: lactose intolerance every time I have some since childhood; I stick to cheese, cream and yoghurt and I love it!

I will say that for myself cheese - cows, goat and sheep's has always and continues to be one of my addictions. I do consume naturally strained unadulterated Greek Yogurt ocasionally and have found that after being off sugar and simple processed carbs for so long the natural sweetness of the yogurt comes through so NO need to add anything. Fortunately for me I don't care for drinking milk.

I was about to say the Dr. sounds South African. I used to live in Capetown. Nice place...shame about the Government

thank you for this video! would you please share your perspective on starting babies on solids and also, feeding small children? off course it goes without saying that processed foods, grains and sugar are out of the question, but what about potatoes, lentils, etc ... that would be so amazing, thank you!

I'm type 2 diabetic and have cut carbs to around 100g a day and upped healthy fats and protein, I love homemade rice pudding with 2 to 3 tablespoons of thick double cream,I add seeds and cinnamon, it's delicious and doesn't spike my blood glucose.

A real doctor here who puts patient care first with factual information. Can’t believe there’s no non-sugar yoghurt in the US! How about Greek yoghurt?

Thank you for this.

In America you can get full fat yogurt. It's called Ratio KETO friendly and it has 15g fat, 2g carbs, 1g sugar and 15g protein. It's very good but use in moderation.

Raw Jersey cow milk and raw goat milk along with its sub-products are divinely healthy. Especially RAW butter

Milk was probably the easiest thing for me to give up. Except cheese. Definitely have to be careful there. Try to stick to the good stuff. I like cream in my coffee but I feel like I can over do it too if I’m not careful.

I’m mostly carnivore only for a few months and great improvement in my health. I was already quite thin when I started and losing weight/fat. I did increase my meat/fat intake. I’m wondering if drinking milk on a regular basis would help?

Doc, I think FAGE brand 5% fat yogurt, which is available in the US (Walmart for one), is pretty good stuff.