"I went to EPCOT as a kid, where's my ride?" Uh...........Spaceship Earth? Leaving a legacy, technically?

Wait... for the Incredibles roller coaster, what if Edna Mode did the safety announcement?

You know, I've been realizing....why did Disney built Pandora in the first place when... The movie that it was based on, is an alien rip off of Pocahontas, and snuffed the Princess and the Frog at the box office. What a weird world we live in.

man it's kind of sad, I'm on the autism spectrum and I can handle change better than most people....as long as it comes with a warning

15:08 Meanwhile there's literally a place called "Castle Park" about 40min away from DCA

Wait, The Simpsons actually mentioned the park, WHILE they were still in their crude-cleaned animation?!

And of course Eisner did the tacky carnival concept TWICE. Paradise Pier in DCA and Chester and Hester's Dinorama in Animal Kingdom. Dark times, my friends.

My philosophy for everything in life: Even though this sucks, at least its not Journey Into YOUR Imagination.

I've never been to California Adventure or California period, but right you are my favorite reviewer...you have Weird Al posters! Love you!

I say fuck it, change it all change DCA to disney grand adventure and paint the sign with the tears of those who care!

I'm still weirded out by all people that booed the PotC change at the D23 PotC panel, while an original imagineer that worked on that ride said he thought it was a good idea. Loved hearing your thoughts on the changes, can't wait for your thoughts on this topic next year.

And now people are starting to find out about Pixar Pier and are complaining. Like freaking clockwork.

TBF, Pixar Pier is the only thing I disagree with. And it's not because I think Paradise Pier is perfect, so much as I would like actual rides to be given to some of the most beloved animated projects, as opposed to just painting them on carnival rides.

Too many Disney fans are attached to “original ideas” as it’s own special category in Disney theme parks. Epcot and DCA are wholly original theme parks with original attractions. The difference is Epcot had a bigger budget and they look better, but that didn’t save their animatronic rides (11 down to 6). DCA was built cheap under Eisner and it looked cheap. Iger saved the park with Carsland, but it looks like Arizona instead. The crying about Pixar Pier is weird. I can see their point that it’s mainly cosmetic. However, I see it as repositioning. Generic lands are no more. The next step is fixing the awful boring Hollywood Land. Good luck with that.

And, he's also one of the cast members of "Mystery Science Theater 3000". Push the button, Max!

Wait a second. Eisner is a producer on Bojack?

I actually rode Ellens Energy adventure nearly every time I went to Epcot, even before they announced it was closing. Even still, I acknowledge it was outdated and understand why it is being replaced.

I never noticed when Barbossa bites into the apple Jack the Monkey looks at him dribbling like 'Dude, even I think that's gross!'

The only things I honestly can say I really do miss from Epcot's past is the original Journey and Jeremy Irons' narration on Spaceship Earth. (and the last time I was on Ellen was December 28th, 2002. It, to borrow from Charlie, "pulled an Indy" on us halfway through the dinosaur section and they had to drive the theater cars out manually one at a time)

I can kind of see where the "change-is-bad" crowd are coming from...because the stuff that's being changed is the stuff that was there when you were a kid. And it's always bittersweet to see something from your childhood go. I wasn't the biggest fan of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, but I was still a little sad not to see it there in Orlando.

You'll be happy to know, there's an anouncement of an Inside Out ride replacing Flik's Flyers.

I love your channel and have never heard of it before but you've definitely found a new listener in me because your sharp perspective and comedy have won me over

Are you going to do historical retrospectives for Disney's Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom?

Wait... We gotta wait 2+ months for the redhead video??? But we wants the redhead now!

Im more annoyed at people that magically care about rides theyd pass up on a regular. Im a Disney World Passholder and literally no one gave too fucks about Malestorm until they announced it was gonna be replaced by frozen.

I know it's an old video, but.... Yes, I'm an Epcot fan. And World Showcase is my favorite part of it. But I'm fine with changes and Disneyfication or whatever. They're keeping the basic outline. It'll be ok folks.

Give Disney a few years, there probably gonna rename California Adventure to something more Disney to make fans forget the shame

My mom has been one of Epcot's biggest defenders as long as I can remember (though I personally always hated that park) and even she admits that these changes couldn't come soon enough since on our last visit she had to acknowledge the park had become dated AF.

In these Chapek times, we need more Goldmark. Where art thou, Tony?

So wait, does this mean we won't be getting presumably the next State of the Parks video about the Redhead Scene until 2018 or rather that the 2018 in the title is referring to the updated scene itself coming in 2018 with the State of the Parks video discussing it coming sooner?

Am I the only one who's surprised that there is no gag in the media where the Epcot golf ball gets hit by a giant club? I mean what else are we gonna do with it? Glue two smaller Death Stars onto it to make a bigger Mickey Mouse Death Star?

I can see Disney California Adventure being Eisner's answer to 'Hey, see all the Cool stuff you 'Could' see in California. Well why go to those. We got Everything you Could see in California Right HERE! In Our New Park Called CALIFORNIA ADVENTURE!!' The problem is that unlike Florida, most of the people that come to their parks in California are Local Residents not tourists. Thus to tell people 'Hey look a California Theme Park!' the people said 'Ya, so what!' lol

Quick note: The big difference between EPCOT Center and DCA is the attendance and guest scores. Epcot was projected to have 6 million guests - got 12 million the first year. The "Epcot is boring, no one likes it" is all Eisner. The man literally hated the park - but guests went to it. They also pent more money than guests at MK and DL. Still do. The park prints money. Food and Wine Festival weekends see 60k guests on Fri/Sat's. On NYE Epcot has more guests in it than DL and DCA combined. Then there's DCA.. Projected to have 8 million the opening year - based on Epcot's data for the comparable size of the park and its offerings. It only got 4-5. It went down from there. Guest spending was non-existent, and until the redo park attendance was in a freefall. Comparing the two - especially by listening to anything Eisner had to say about Epcot - is not doing Epcot justice.

I’d like to still see dinosaurs in the Guardians coater, I think they time traveled in one of the movies. I could be wrong it’s been awhile since I watched them. It would be cool to somehow put a show scene with Chris Pratt interacting with a dinosaur, maybe a raptor 😉 in the ride, universal can’t copyright an actor and a species of dinosaur.

Oh God... I dipped my toe in the redhead waters when the rumors came out, and they are BROILING my friend. You're going to need a lot more than a backup dancer to help you through that hell...

DCA 1.0 sucked. Epcot 1.0 was amazing but it took time for people to actually understand what the theme of the park was. The problem with Epcot was that since it wasn't a "castle" park, attractions could me moved in and out more frequently because it wasn't considered as "taboo" to do that. Disney execs could get away with it. However, those who love Epcot are the most passionate theme park fans in all of the amusement park industry, hands down. Attractions have come and go that really shouldn't have, like Journey Into Imagination, which Eisner ruined (jerk), and the 1994 version of Spaceship Earth (stupid Judy Dench ruining everything, stupid interactive screens that caused the ending descent scene to be removed), but like I said, its Epcot, so it doesn't matter as much. This is sad because I never got to experience attractions like Horizons, Communicore, original Innoventions, Listen to the Land or all of Wonders of Life (the greatest attraction pavilion ever built by man for amusement parks). But change is coming and the blue sky art looks really promising for the future. Let's hope that those working on the project realize how much people actually care about this park and they improve upon its current quality than diminish it.

I would like to be able to hangout with Tony at the parks.

What Pixar needs to do is get Neil Patrick Harris to narrate an into for Incredibles 2 so that DCA can keep his safety speech for the ride.

I love these state of the park episodes! Keep it up man!

They'd better not replace the *ANIME MUSEUM* in EPCOT. Also, they'd better put a Ghibli ride in the Japan section. Also, Disney should rename Disney's California Adventure to Disney-Pixar Adventure, to remove the California association.

Perfect timing Jerk!!! They just announced Pixar Pier information!!! Get ready for the "Incredicoaster".

Holy shit I can't wait for you to talk about the Pirates shitshow. EDIT: WHEN ARE YOU OPENING THE CAN OF WORMS TONY?!??!! I MUST KNOW!!!

Some people are just spoiled

Tony, I love your wit and well informed thought provoking take on how all of this shakes out. All of it so TRUE! Carsland redeemed not only DCA but in my mind, also Test Track in Epcot. Like Ah! Now I see how this ride tech could actually be cool and clever! What is really insane is how much it costs to add something now. 1.4 BILLION dollars for some new land? Billion with a B? What the total heck is going on with our money? And, $100 a head to walk in the gate? Playground for the rich!

EPCOT 1.0, I would love to see that again someday. DCA 1.0, not so much, and I'm a California resident. We Are the Future.

Honestly I'm perfectly fine with loosing NPH's safety announcements IF they replace him with Edna Mode. I need this.

Finally! A Harvey Birdman reference!

Haunted Mansion Holiday is Awesome! It could stand to start later in the year but it's one of the best Disney Theme Park attractions of all time.

(sheds a tear for NPH)

If I were an Imagineer, I would have reskinned the Monsters, Inc. ride in Hollywood Land to an Incredibles ride. Maybe even get a really cool Omnidroid animatronic. Combine that with putting up new buildings in HL like a Wakandan building, the Anaheim Sanctum, and a Daily Bugle building for meet and greets with their respective characters, and that would be my revamped Hollywood Land: Super Hero Central.

There's a way to keep each park true to the theme but also have Disney elements, paradise pier featured a good amount of vintage Mickey styled characters so build a new ride where maliboomer was themed to vintage Mickey and friends and redo Hollywood Land if they have to redo some land so badly

I guess the big difference personally between Epcot 1.0 and DCA 1.0 is that there's more of a reason to respect the vision of Epcot 1.0, even thou it was boring it still tried to do some ambitious things with emphasis on culture and history and some of the best, most-elaborate dark rides of the era. Meanwhile DCA 1.0 was, by it's VERY ORIGIN concept and built to be a cheap, compromised, cash-in when the Disneyland Paris fiasco ruined their bigger more expensive ideas for the disneyland resort

What was the point of the dca 2.0 project if they're already making changes? They should have just scrapped the entire park and started over new

Apparently they are conveniently making the area with Silly Symphony Swings, Goofy's Sky School, and the Little Mermaid ride into a new land called Paradise Park

"Your obsessions do not make you a better person" -Tony Goldmark, 2017

The People Mover isn't at Disney Land?!?!?!?!?! I've only been to World and it's one of my favorites, and certainly one of the best value rides (time:enjoyment).

They just announced that they are turning California Screamin' into The Incredicoaster.

Theory on Guardians Ride, it will be educational by discussing rollercoaster physics and why people like rollercoasters by going into adrenaline and dopamine.

I remember that i see the california adventure during the monorial and parts outside the resort in 2008 whit my uncle and my dad,IT WAS BORING i remember think about it,i think was becuse the sun's ferries well,but it was before the sweet 2.0 version Love your videos Grettings from mexico

I'm not sure if the end card is supposed to mean the next state of the park won't be till 2018... but that completely makes sense with you

I don't entirely share your opinions on Pixar Pier, especially after today's concept art but the video was great and the ending was PER-FECT.

I personally don't mind World Showcase, mainly because of the dining and that kickass Japanese shop.

Hey Tony, just out of curiosity, do you hate haunted Mansion Holiday, or just the fact that it starts on Halloween?

This video actually answered a long question I had wanted to ask you but always forgot about: Was Disney thinking of putting a theme park in Virginia. I remember it being brought up when at Busch Gardens: Williamsburg for the umpteenth time because it's the closest theme park near me, and that it ultimately didn't happen because the landowners caught onto Disney and hiked up the prices for the land. It always stuck in the back of my mind, wondering if it was just an urban rumor or not, and then here it is in this video that confirms it actually was a plan. Just something I thought I'd bring up.

Probably the best example of an educational theme park ride I've ever been on was Tomorrow's Harvest at Queensland's The Big Pineapple, which wasn't boring or annoying in part due to the fact The Big Pineapple only had ONE of these educational rides because having more of them would just be retreading ground, pity about California Screamin' though.

See I feel like the thing that sucks about DCA is that the first park sucked, no doubts about that, but the revamping was so gorgeous and worked so well. Paradise Pier is so immersive and I just don't see how that is going to work with a jumble of pixar characters? Like are they all just hanging out at a pier together? That seems like the same kind of mess they made when they first made DCA.I loved what they did with soaring because it made the experience all the more immersive, and while Cars Land looks more Arizona-ish, it can still fit if you just imagine Death Valley has larger canyons. My issue with Guardians replacing tower and pixar pier is...what is the theme??? How is the immersion going to work? I'm not gonna judge it until I see it, but I must admit I'm wholly confused on how they're going to pull this off without looking lazy

California Adventure I have no particular attachment to. I'll admit, I'm not thrilled with the push to basically make it all Pixar and Marvel, but that has less to do with the integrity of the theming and more to do with the fact that Disney seems to be actively avoiding their Disney licenses in all of their upcoming changes with the exception of a Mickey ride in Hollywood Studios. Apart from meet and greets, what Disney movie license is getting any new attractions in the next five years? While Pixar is getting five (possibly six) new attractions based on their properties plus a few rethemes and refurbishments. Where's Wreck-it-Ralph, Moana, Big Hero 6, Zootopia? Even Frozen was just a re-theme. With Epcot, I have to admit as a kid with an interest in science and history, it was my favorite of the Disney parks growing up. I think you also have to consider that these parks are designed for families. Sure, an adult couple can go globe trotting to visit actual foreign countries, but that's not always as easy for people with kids. It can be a way to at least expose them in a more physical way to some of the styles and cultural aspects of different parts of the world that won't stick with them as well from a book or video. The current stock of Disney additions, however, have nothing to do with actually exposing kids to anything apart from the franchise they're representing, which is largely what they were trying to avoid by keeping those characters out of the park in the first place. It just seems like if it were unavoidable to bring these characters into the parks, they could have done it in a way that at least kept the theming for each area and the science they were representing. Why even bother keeping the park with this configuration and theming if you're basically going to just make every section into a commercial for some Pixar or Marvel franchise, anyway? I'd also have to argue that Epcot was not a joke from the beginning. What made it a joke was the lack of change and innovation in the park. Rather than updating pavilions, they simply slapped on a new coat of paint with some Disney characters or a celebrity spokesperson, but didn't fundamentally change anything. Changing, or adding more country pavilions would have been a better move than adding the Donald to Mexico, or replacing Maelstrom with Frozen. Or simply adding new rides that more tastefully touched upon the history and culture, rather than just circlevision movies that get swapped out every few years. The Future Land buildings could have added new exhibits and updated rides based on what we've learned about each subject or just to expand what they have there, or even added new attractions. One of the great things about the Florida parks is that Disney is pretty free to expand them when they need to. Epcot should have been the park that would get that treatment the most often. Unfortunately, relying on sponsors ended up being the weak point in that plan. Now that they're moving away from that, however, they aren't exactly bringing the park back to the original vision, but simply trying to move it more in a Magic Kingdom 2 direction. The changes to these parks aren't really limited to just these two parks, either. Every Disney park is moving more towards the commercial aspects of Disney properties. They just opened a whole new section of Disney's Wild Animal Park that features zero animals and are looking to replace the paleontology themed section with Indiana Jones. Hollywood Studios is discussing a name change since apart from some superficial structures, they're basically abandoning their original theme. Two similar parks taking on different properties of a larger company I can understand, but do they really need four homogeneous parks in the same location? You're still going to have the same problem at the end of the day, only worse. At least previously people had a choice based on taste, but as the parks become more similar, it just becomes a matter of which park is structurally better than the others. Theming and personal interests become less important, which doesn't seem to be in line with what the parks were all about to begin with.

Yeah, I never went to DCA, but I hear you about Epcot 1.0. I went to it as a kid in '90. I was six years old and honestly, the only thing that stuck with me from it was Journey into Imagination and the dinosaur scene in Universe of Energy. In fact, for years I couldn't even remember what ride that scene was from. Just that I remembered a dinosaur scene. And even today, aside from a couple of rides in Future World I tend to spend most of my time in World Showcase. Am I the only one who wasn't bothered by Paradise Pier though? I mean, yeah. I get the irony of building something Walt was avoiding when building Disneyland but 1) It's not Disneyland. If they built Paradise Pier in Disneyland I could see being mad but it was in it's own park. 2) In Walt's day, such parks were the norm and poorly done. Nowadays, while they still exist they're hardly the norm like in Walt's day and to many, a nostalgic bygone era. And if there was anything Walt was into, it was indulging in nostalgic bygone era. I guess it wouldn't be so bad if on opening day they had mor interesting things around the Paradise Pier area. Finally, you and I are going to disagree severely on Mr. Toad becoming Pooh. But then, I only rode Toad once. I was six, and I hated it. It scared the shit out of me and I came out of the pooh ride thinking "Why couldn't that be there in '90?"

You visit Disney parks so much you do deserve a ride.

ok i love education things but im fine with that going, but i REALLY wish that first rule was still a thing, Disney doesn't make new characters for the parks anymore and i really miss that, doesn't every one want another 9 eye?

Personally I'm fine for changing the Red Head scene but I wish the entire ride was changed instead of parts of it(The mix of original audio and new does not mesh well). Hell, if she's going to be a pirate now, why not make the village section be about a pirate invasion to the Red Head's turf and she and her crew have to defend it.

Say whatever you want to say about Eisner, I still think he was better in terms of theme park that whatever followed him. At least he knew that theme parks needed it to be kept up to date (maybe he did not have the right ideas) still for him keeping the parks current was a priority. What followed pretty much sat on the parks for years stating they did not need to be kept updating them, for years no changes to the parks and increasing prices. Now what we have is called catching up, and honestly is still not fast enough. These changes that are coming now should have come years ago.

I love how this video has been put up on the day Pixar Pier had some more details removed!

Wait, they're cloning a ride from Disneyland Paris? Has that been done before? If they're going to clone anything, it should be Cinemagique.

I was gonna say “get the people who worked on the Figment comic to redo the ride and make it all Steampunk,” but it was already proto-Steampunk in the original incarnation, right?

Did they re-theme Goofy's Sky School, or are they leaving that as is? And do you plan to review the re-themed rides at Pixar Pier?

Instead of having Mickey on the Fun Wheel in Pixar Pier, they should retheme it to UP, have the gondolas be balloons, replace Mickey's giant head with Carl Fredrickson's and have him watch over Paradise Pier...... wait.... WHY DOESN'T PARADISE PIER HAVE A WATERFALL CALLED PARADISE FALLS? That NEEDS to happen when they do Pixar Pier because otherwise, what's even the point

You made some great points. Especially with 15:00

Since I highly doubt we're going to get an episode on it what exactly were the problems with Euro Disneyland?

Did you get permission from The Band That Played California Lady to play California Lady at the end?

I never got the chance to see Epcot 1.0, but I'm convinced I would have loved the original Future World... because I'm a *complete dork*. I have a feeling none of my other family members would stand for it, and I'm not surprised it wasn't a universal favorite.

Plz make more state of parks I love them

Of course Iger has his own flaws: namely a preoccupation with claiming and exploiting as many other IP's has he can get his hands. For the most part I have tolerated it, but gobbling up FOX crosses the lines for me

"A Permanent Wods Fir!" - Some Jerk Who Probably Said That, 2017

A question for you, Tony. I'm have never been to Epcot and was born in 94. So I'm don't that much about its run in the 80's. What are your thoughts on Eisner and his era of running Disney?

Yeah future world is for science fact! Like singing food and dragons! Also my emotional rollercoaster is a lot closer to Screamin' than sky school (thanks ADD, depression, and anxiety!)

Before actually watching your video I have to say that Epcot Center version 1.0 was awesome, in my humble opinion anyhow...I was there. As far as DCA 1.0 I would not know...since I have not been to Disneyland since my one and only trip in 1976.

I always loved epcot.. i liked the og rides more 4 nostalgia.. i dont mind new ip as long as the basic concept of ws stays.. future world needs a total overhaul as much as i love some of those pavilions.

At least they renamed the coaster with another pun

Despite all that was said here about avoiding "different for the sake of different," a direct contrast seems to be the new theme DCA is going for and (honestly) should have. What do I mean by that? Well, if you can put it into words, what's Disneyland's theme? If I recall correctly, it's a venue for escaping the modern day and visiting distant lands and times. What could be a perfect counter-balance to Walt's Southern-California Pleasure Palace is a park designed to instead embrace the modern day (or some time nearer to it). A good amount of Pixar's output and Marvel could be considered Contemporary Fiction. Not far back enough to be in the 19th century but not far forward enough to be Tomorrowland, but rather in a world resembling the modern day, or at the latest the not-too-distant future (next Sunday AD). This is actually my own artistic rationale for why Marvel is in DCA but Star Wars isn't (aside from boosting traffic for both parks, which is obviously the main reason). Star Wars, despite being science fiction and having the occasional modern element slip in, is based primarily around old tales/myths. The main saga has a bit of a King Aruthur legend flavor to it, and (lest we forget) this all takes place "a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away." Ergo, Disneyland actually makes a certain amount of sense as the location as opposed to Contemporary Fiction Land (actual name TBD).

Tony you echoed a remark I made the other day that the Disney parks are becoming different versions of the Magic Kingdom..which is a bummer.

I rode Ellen every time I went. not cause it was particularly great or anything. I'm just a completest. also it was a great place to take a nap.

Why am I just now discovering this channel omg

Can’t wait for the pirates video! :D

I am assuming they are going to charge for the new rides on top of entry?

Brilliant, all of iit.. Good stuff man.

Forgive me if I either heard this wrong, if the point was glossed over, or if somebody already asked this, but How can there be a "Guardians" ride in development at EPCOT if Universal Orlando Still owns the rights to making Marvel themed thrill rides.......Or DO they still own them? (Legal stuff confuses me)

Bleh. I'm alright with a more "Disnified" world showcase, and I'm completely for updating Ellen's Energy Adventure into SOMETHING new. Yet, I just can't in good conscious approve of the impending overhaul of future world into Tomorrowland 2.0, along with basically giving up on the whole education part of EPCOT. I understand it's entirely a preference thing, but to me while Magic Kingdom was all about the wonders and creativity of the fantasy world, EPCOT leaned more into the optimism and wonders of the real world, to inspire its guests to learn more about it and be the change they want to see in it. (Hell, that's why the central figure of the park is Spaceship *_EARTH_* .) I think that optimistic message of building a better tomorrow, ESPECIALLY nowadays, is very important to hold in high regards, and was ultimately the _spirit_ of Walt's Epcot project, even if what we got didn't stand up to the idea.

So when I saw the ending I thought to myself: 2018?? To do a STATE OF THE PARKS? WHAT? That's about 2 months away what in the hell could be taki--oh oh OOOH. This is TONY GOLDMARK. Whatever in the hell he is planning and working on is going to be WELL worth it. Seriously, always is! I first caught the "I NEED MORE JERK" bug around Back to the Future: The Ride review. Not only is he my favorite entertainer on the internet bar none because of the subject matter near and dear to my heart nor the countless times I've literally screamed "FINALLY! SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS" at my computer screen, but his content is so damn genuinely good! Have you heard his commentaries? The man even critiques jokes he's made in ways that astounds me. The ones he says he's not a fan of, I wasn't much a fan of. The one's he says "This could've gone better" I don't really agree because I love the joke....THEN THE FUCKER MAKES A BETTER ONE ON THE SPOT. My root point being if any entertainer, ANY content creator has earned the combination of trust and patience at least in my book... it's this genius. Not to mention everyone else he's worked with is a damn joy in every single way as well. Tony, I really hope you've read through this because I would love to personally tell you: Thank you. Thank you for making my life better, distracting from the Tannenmagnet truck company-sized bullshit in the world and my personal life. In case you ever forget what you do is important. SO important and so damn well done! I couldn't possibly be more excited for what you have next and I hope you are doing as great as you can in your personal life. Thanks for the laughs, thanks for recruiting more to the "Disney is actually pretty mindblowingly amazing if you take a closer look" club, thank you for introducing me to so many amazing people, and thank you most of all for doing what you do. Hope to meet you someday!

At least Buena Vista street kept with the original theme