I agree. How can we amplify this content?

@@vmvcreations Take some Spice Melange....

When comes finaly the WOKE-TRANS-GENDER-BLM-LBTQRXYZ%&/§$-DRAG-QUEEN-Leto?

Can someone explain how Thufir Hawat was able to raid the Harkonnen homeworld and destroy the spice reserves, like how they were even able to get there. I can’t find anything on it other than the fact that it happened.

@@user-on9yz2wz9qi don’t believe it’s something that they expanded upon. Thufir is one of the greatest military strategists in the empire and his specialty is subterfuge and secrecy, so I assume they captured a ship, killed its entire crew then used it to get on planet where they landed, fucked shit up, and left before anyone knew what was happening

Quinn trimmed the fat off the streaming video with its first several minutes of tedious technical glitches and just gave us the lean meat here and it was Delicious! THIS was really all I needed to see after watching the trailer through by itself the first few times. Which I recommend btw. Enjoy the trailer by itself first & THEN watch whatever commentaries you want. But take it in and enjoy it for yourself like your favorite food. I like to enjoy at least the first few slices of juicy steak first on its own before deciding if I want to add steak sauce.

I'd add though that I really wasn't expecting the 2nd trailer for another 2-3 months when it would be closer to the actual film release. I guess there will be a 3rd trailer but iI don't want Denis to give away too much before opening night.

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They will. They'll do Children of Dune/God Emperor too. They've realised they've unearthed something big. It gives the studio kudos.

@@JohnnyZenith God imagine if they make to Heretics/Chapterhouse. There's plenty in those that they'd definitely have to change to be marketable.

@@merrittanimation7721 no way those last 2 get made :') (you're right!)

I think a part 3 for Messiah is all but confirmed by WB. I can't remember where I saw that though.

Villeneuve said Pt 3 will take some time. He'll do other projects first to allow enough time to pass. Makes a lot of sense, considering the time jump between Dune and Messiah

Don't need an intermission if you wear a stillsuit to process urine.

thats what i'm personally hoping for, but I find it highly unlikely seeing as that would be a LONG ASS movie for just the average joe, so WB most likely wouldn't put any money into it. its a sad world we live in

Lol gender swapped liet

@@FRAKKKA get a life

I will definitely pay for this, but the only thing Villeneuve got more accurate than the Sci Fi channel was the portrayal of the Baron.

@@sayrebonifield4663 kynes from the scifi channel was top notch

@@FRAKKKAit didn’t really affect the plot as kynes died and the actress still did a good job.

Was Paul moduling his voice in the speech?

Yeah, that's also the immediate connection I made

exactly this--I noticed this parallel with the combat sequence with Paul in the "golden" armor.

They are not false visions. As Quinn explained, his powers of prescience give him the ability to see many possible futures. He can navigate through those possible futures and decide which one he would like to bring about by performing the correct action at the correct time. The visions of him being trained by Jamis was one of those possible futures, but a different choice made by Paul locked him onto a different future from that one.

If you’re talking about the same shot that I noticed what hit me was that in the first version it was Paul himself making those body motions and battle. Now it’s Chani….

His choices in these regards, go quite far in conveying the portions on the novel that must be left out. Denis does this masterfully.

Same here … pure chills

I cried

At least Messiah. I do hope this film shows at least some of the horrors of the jihad to drive the point home that this isnt a heroic story.

@@patreekotime4578messiah would be a great third movie for a trilogy

I hope so too but I think he will leave it to others. He has a lot of other ideas and there is only so much time in life.

Still haven't read the books, but so excited for this movie, loved the first one.

@@markg.7865 The first 4 are definitely worth reading. Or you can read the first one as a stand-alone.

The Golden Path through 4

Heretics and Chapter House are also very good. After that ..mehh. Because it's not Frank Herbert.

@@patreekotime4578 I'd say the first six, God Emperor, is a hard read though. Heretics and Chapter House are both also very good

He gets so many of the characters wrong though. Not many of the characters feel true to the book at all.

@@machomaam4975Any specific critiques? I often see people saying this and what they actually mean is "wahh Kynes is a girl 😢"

I’d agree apart from the Emperor. I’d always seen him as more of a Morgan Freeman type character, possibly Laurence Fishburn.

For me one of the most impactful moments in the books was the juxtaposition of Paul refusing to take the golden path because of the horrors that would be inflicted in his name, and Leto II who made it clear that the greater horror would be not taking the path.

@@korenn9381 Since Leto II is the Evil minded stooge in this story, it's perfectly coherent.

I mean, technically the BG are the puppeteers of nearly everyone so it still lines up. The difference is just one of scale; Shaddam, Baron Harkoennen, Leto and the other House leaders are among the most competent and deadly people in the universe, all with their own plans within plans.. but they are all ultimately only seriously concerned with their own smaller perspectives, even if that "small" perspective encompasses the next hundred~ years of the Empire and their Houses existence within it. The BG by contrast operate on the scale of history as they scheme to guide the path of the houses over generations of generations. It may have been easier to do in a series format but I think it's possible to both portray Shaddam as incredibly competent and dangerous force in his own right while also still being part of the sisterhoods web the way the rest of the Houses unwittingly are.

Although Fenring is apparently in this one.

I think they need to emphaise just how much of a puppet of the Spacing Guild he is, not just the BG. If there is one thing the old film did well it was showing that the Emperor takes his orders from the Guild

@@warlockofwordschannel7901 do we think Nelson’s Fenring? He’d be a great fit, but it feels kinda weird they’re hiding him and were so brazen about “Young Pup” (I was pleasantly surprised that made it into the trailer).

I feel like its just still a surprise. Each trailer so far has given us a big new character reveal.

Hopefully not around cattle or during loveplay.

I think that is a glimpse of her as well as the shot of the bloody knife with the royal court in the background (I don't think Quinn discussed that in this video but it's in the original trailer)

I think it might be her as well, but it would have to be a vision of the future...? Unless Denis is aging her character up more than the book (which would honestly not be a horrible idea, given she would almost have to be part CGI/deep fake if they kept her as an 'adult toddler'). The best case scenario being if they got a very young-looking 6/7 year old with acting chops beyond her years, a la Kirsten Dunst in 'Interview with the Vampire'

@@AhhBeejamsI don’t think that’s her. It’s probably Paul with the Crysknife. Alia uses the Gom Jabbar in the book

​@@kbol1337I wouldn't mind if they switch her scene to use a knife. It would set up the reason for her later becoming known as Saint Alia of the Knife, which I don't remember being explained in the books (but my memory is pretty crap).

@@GrrregDavies fair point. I wouldn’t be against it. But I still doubt that was her in the clip. In the first book I don’t think they refer to her as that but I could be wrong. Good point though

guess he finally mastered the voice :)

Can't wait for it to vibrate the life out of me in the theater

"Damn, did Timothee's balls finally drop?"

@@ne0nmancer yeah once he did up his underwear desert slip style

And from what whas shown in the first part, and now this trailer, that journey is portrayed in an EPIC way! And my god, that look on Stilgar's face when he sees Paul riding Shai Hulud for the first time!!!! It speaks volumes, nay, whole libraries. The sheer awe dripping from his face. SO WELL DONE! That look alone is Oscar worthy. It tells so much in a split second.

You should read G.A.T.T.D.F. and A.4.4.F.G.A.S.T, amazing books too!

I do hope it with you! However, all things considered, I don't see what the Yueh's storyline and the Banquet scene would have added more than what is not already shown in the movie in other scenes!!! Villeneuve does a great job showing what and how the Harkonnen realy are, how they operate, their true intentions and their backstabbing, etc. So, the whole Yueh storyline is in that aspect not much more than filler. Plus, you really need to take the time to explain the whole Imperial Conditioning thing much MUCH better to the audiance. You really need to drive it home that that is not something one can easily overcome, practically impossible to think one can.... or the whole speculation and surprise thing doesn't make much sense for the average non-Dune fan viewer. And that would have added a lot more 'slow' pacing and exposition, etc. You can do that in a book... not so much in a movie.... Same with the Banquet scene. Sure, visually it would be stunning. And it would also explain certain politics and dynamics between characters more, and earlier on. But again, not much more than what we can see and derive from other scenes in the movie. So, seeing it in that perspective, I think Villeneuve made the right decision in juggling between a true adaptation and having major problems and risk in bad pacing (and thus very negative impact in box office).... and between cutting (duplicated) things which can be shown in other ways, for the sake of having a good flow of the movie, without taking away the underlying meanings, dynamics, and story telling. But yeah, as a fan, I sure can relate to missing those scenes!! However, the success of movies (and thus the chance to having sequels, etc), especially ones based on books with such deep lore and caliber, don't only depend on fans who wouldn't mind sitting thru a 4 hour movie with 30 minutes of boring dialog, so to speak. In fact, it mostly depends on how the non-fan sees it.

@@CookieTube I disagree. The feeling in the book is Leto and his family are trying to survive the trap they know they are in. When the word gets out that their is a traitor we know who it is but others do not. The paranoia is part of the trap. When Gurney reunites with Paul he almost kills someone else thinking they were the traitor the banquet tells us more about how the planet works. What people believe the Fremen to be. But it also shows more of the family trying to survive the trap. In what we got Leto accepts the challenge, instantly feels pessimistic and gets stabbed in the back by someone we hardly know. Its far from filler and something Lynch does much better. I hardly care about Issacs Duke because he is so easily defeated. Prognow however is a warm, noble person surrounded by top tier advisors who rises to a challenge and is cut down regardless. Much more book accuracy there.

I was familiar with the story, my wife wasn't. In the first movie she had no idea who anyone was, what their role was, nor did she care. They didn't develop the characters enough for non fans.

​@@Concreteowl Sure.... but all of that is not needed for the main themes of the movie (the ones Villeneuve focusses on that is). It was also made clear that Yueh was the traitor with the scenes with the Baron at Guidi Prime. It was also made clear that there was a lot of doubt and that House Atreides was in termoil etc during this time. As for what the Fremen are: again, that is made clear thru many other scenes (mainly Paul's scene, but also via other dispositions). As for the other characters at the banquet scene, they réaly are inconsequential to the overal main story. Those are additional story lines which fans would like to see, but which are not important because they only re-establish/confirm what is already been told via other means. Aka: they are filler. I can also list many other things which weren't in the movie which we (fans) would have loved to see, but which are either not really needed or can be established via other means. Again, a movie is a complete other medium than a book, and you also need to take in account that a movie is primary made to be successful for the general public, not just for fans. The banquet scene really is NOT crucial to the story (especially with all the other dispositions which were shown)!

@@mdmyer I have shown the movie to nephews and friends (age ranging from 13 to in their 40s). All whom have never heard of Dune before. And most of them could follow everything. Of course, they don't know the characters and who's who as quickly as fans will and at first, sure, and there might have been some questions or confusion. But to say they couldn't follow or where confused throughout the whole movie or something would be untrue. After the initial confusion (like you have in movies where it is not flatout said who's who, like thinking the audience is dumb), they all quickly caught on who's who. And of course, only the fans would know the details and intricacies of some relationships, but those don't really matter to follow the story. It makes it a lot richer, sure, but it doesn't prevent you from following the main arcs. Could there have been more character development? Of course there could!!! Would I have loved to see more? You bet I would! But was it too little? No. IMHO

I felt the same this is the only film that really makes me take notice. The rest seems to be superhero overload or sequel after sequel.

That may not be Paul. I won’t spoil who it may be, in case you didn’t read the book. But if it’s the character I’m suspecting, that would be massive for us as an audience

@@kbol1337 I've read the book some time ago. Now you got me thinking😁

@@blueberry212121 hey maybe forgetting a lot will let you relive some parts as new. Don’t spoil it for yourself haha

@@kbol1337 You're right🙂 but I feel like reading it again before the premiere

@@blueberry212121 I finished my third reading of the first book yesterday 😂 you can’t go wrong

His acting is AMAZING

Its a complicated topic. The sandtrout sap is green. The wet, fermented spiceblow is violet. The dried spice and the water of life (bile of a small sand worm) is blue. Spice-gas is orange. Extremely old oxidized spice is rust colored.

@@patreekotime4578 Thanks, yeah I remember about the green now. I knew the spice gas was orange and spice is rust color.

@@restoredephraimpublication1540 Well, only the spice hoards at the end of God Emperor are rust colored. All the other dry spice we encounter in the books is blue. Film adaptations have laregrly departed from that in favor of a literal "cinnamon" color for dry spice.

I almost doubted the choice of Walken as the Emperor. I now feel I was wrong. Villeneuve manages to get outstanding performances out of people. Look at the Duke in Pt 1 when he talks about "they tried to take the life of my son!" and compare that to the same actor in Star Wars. Obviously scripts matter, but Villeneuve seems to just get something extra out of the cast members somehow.

Yes, this! Even many (new) Dune fans actual miss that. In fact, I dare to say, even Quinn himself missed a bit, so it seems from his last live stream?... Where he seem to suggest that the Fremen Revered Mothers where normal Fremen who where indoctrinated by the Missionaria Protectiva. And developed the same spice agony/other memory capabilities as the BG (as in a parallel evolution kind of thing). At least that is what I got from his statements during the stream? But, those Fremen Revered Mothers _ARE_ Bene Gesserit. At least they started as such. It was after generation upon generation living their own indoctrination/Missionaria Protectiva that they became Fremen Revered Mothers. So, it is not parallel evolution per say, but rather, their genetic origins WERE Bene Gesserit long time ago.

@@CookieTube I dont think so. They were trained by the Bene Gesserit in some ways and learned their ability to unlock genetic memories. But if Bene Gesserit genetic memories were present in the Fremen, they would know about the Missionaria Protectiva and how they had been manipulated. They would also know the Weirding Ways and the Fremen wouldnt need Jessica to teach them. The tao orgy also appears to be unique to the Fremen version of the Water of Life rituals and not something they got directly from the BG. Also, the entire religion of the Fremen does NOT come from the BG... they only wove the Panoplia Propheticus on top of their ancient Zen-Sunni Wanderer religious traditions and prophesy going back to the Quran.

He looks just like the other Harkonnens. Austin Butler is a great actor.

@@brotherjohnnyxXxX Possibly, but his looks are cartoonish and silly. Just overdone. Look at the miniseries for a better version. Even Sting was a better fit, even if his acting wasn't optimal. I was pleasantly surprised by Jason Momoa whom I thought was just a bad choice, but still, if they ever make Dune Messiah, he just got to be replaced. Harkonnens are too cartoonish overall. But we'll see. I could be wrong.

@@henrikg1388 The Harkonnens were cartoonish and silly in both the Lynch movie and the miniseries. In Villeneuve's film, they are threatening, dark and devoid of any humour. To me the actor who played Feyd in the miniseries looked beyond silly and acted like a Beverly Hills football player. Sting was just Sting. But that's just my opinion. I was also pleasantly surprised by Momoa's performance. If he keeps getting gigs in Hollywood, maybe his acting abilities will get even better and could end up doing a good job in Messiah.

@@brotherjohnnyxXxX To be fair, they, especially the Baron are cartoonish and silly in the book. This baron is far more menacing than the often bumbling, obsessive, power hungry, food-and-sex-addicted ego-maniac in the book. Both films suffer from trying to make the various "tribes" easily identifiable to audiences. Lynch chose red hair, Villeneuv chose bald.. both miss the mark of Feyd having the same hair color as Paul, highlighting him as the anti-Paul. Austin Butler at least looks only a few years older than Chalomet, and has the right lips for the part... although without the Baron's sexual tastes on display that probably doesnt matter.

Yep. Those figures in the background in the arena fight between Feyd and slave... are the future/dune version of the traditional Spanish *Matadors* (bull fighters)/ *Banderilleros* . Look up the traditional costume/clothing of them (called *Traje de luces* )!! They look 100% identical: slim figure/clothing, head wear with the two points (called the *Montera* ) although enlarged/exaggerated in Dune, the swords, the stance, the side to side movements, etc.... And of course, the whole setting: we're in a fight arena/colosseum type setting. PS: 'Matador' literally means 'killer'. And 'Banderilleros' are a kind of helpers. It makes 100% sense that is what they are. And Villeneuve does a brilliant job in referencing Banderilleros with their look. And he also does a brilliant job in showing them and what it means.... It gives a whole deeper perspective into how Harkonnen are: hypocritical, underhanded, etc. Doing as if they are the best/biggest/badass warriors... yet need a whole bunch of 'backup' in the form of those Banderilleros, just in case.... Master move form Villeneuve. (and if they are a kind of human hybrid, like some suggest, it makes the spider hybrid from part 1 tie into all of this too)

@@CookieTube Yes. And the "horns" on their headgear mimic the bull horns that we saw as a motif through part one. It's a theme that he's woven beautifully through the films. The honorable Atreides was killed by the bull... but the Harkonnens never fight fair.

Nar, the first one was bit of a let down. The second one will be the defining film

@@Henbot The first film covered only the first half of the first book, where almost nothing happens. The story picks up speed right after they go down the sietch, which is right where the first film ends.

@@dfleck9210 I read the book? Lynch film has better pacing because they only had one film. The first Dune Film shouldn’t have been part 1 but Dune 1 and should have ended with their massacre

@@Henbot I am a massive Lynch Dune fan, but even I must admit that the pacing of Lynch's version is all over the place and especially incredible rushed in the second half. It is not for nothing that this was the number one downfall of Lynch's version. It is EXACTLY because 'they' (aka: the studio) wanted a traditional standard length movie (and only 1 movie at that) that the pacing was as bad as it was/barely watchable for the general audience.

@@CookieTubeit was over a hour shorter than Lynch hoped it to be… so yeah. It has very little Lynch in it left…

I’m thinking it’s a combo of him (Timothee) “finding” the character and the character finding himself and acknowledging the weight that he must carry

Hes not playing a scared little boy anymore.

@@patreekotime4578 He was playing a morose 2020's teenager in the first not a prince of one of the major house of the Landsraad. Hopefully it gets better.

@@machomaam4975Paul IS a morose teenager in the start of the book! Read it!