Interesting! What PC was that?

What?? OK, I really wanna know what board that worked with.

This is correct.

I am still PISSED that our first 486 (Biostar mobo in a Pionex desktop) was ruined by a God damned Varta barrel battery. I removed it and the board worked a decade ago but it stopped recognizing the keyboard as the damage had been done and I didn't know about using vinegar. I intend to practice soldering with a microscope and learn trace repair so I can fix it so DOOM and DOOM2 will pump through it's veins again some day.

"Oh one would dream to have an Intel Pentium" Truer words have never been spoken. I STILL remember feverishly lusting for a God damned Pentium in the mid 90s. We made due with a 486sx25 from December 1992 till January 1997 until we got the guts of the computer replaced with a Pentium 133 and we were blown away with how fast it was. I feel really bad for the poor bastards who had a 386 for a long time and cannot imagine trying to play DOOM with low detail and smaller screen size.

Once I figured out how to actually get inside, I really liked the case :)

@@Epictronics1 Yeah! I upgraded from a Taiwanese no-name mini-tower case to an Enlight back in the late 90s. It was a huge improvement, and felt so modular and high-end -- although the bar was pretty low at the time. I have since rebuilt those two (and coincidentally, they're set up side-by-side on my desk here next to me!), in exact duplicate cases, and love them both.

That must have been a really fun job :)

The intel batman only supported the pentium 60 and de pentium overdrive 120, and only had 1 ide port. Thr batman's revenge had en extra buggy ide controller on the pci bus, and support for both the pentium 60 and 66 ad well as the pentium overdrive 120 and 133

@@arnovanderheiden1458 Interesting, did the Commodore have the same case as the Batman ESCOM in this video? Thanks for clarifying the differens between Batman and Batman's revenge

@@Epictronics1 you're welcome! yes, exactly the same case!

My escom had a black case badge. I have a white one now, but i am still looking for a black escom case badge..

@@arnovanderheiden1458 Send me an email, I might be able to help you with a black badge. epictronicsyt@gmail.com

Haha, that is hilarious. Personally, I'd prefer a Pentium with the bug, It makes it more interesting from a historical perspective, but I completely forgot to check my chip!

@@Epictronics1 Gosh yes. I think it would kill me to destroy an original buggy Pentium chip. Although... I guess.. once.. it's acceptable to do it, for science, to see if Intel would honor their guarantee. Mind-blowing that somebody was able to find one to send as a replacement. (I wonder if they actually still have some, NOS, or if they had to buy one off eBay .. LOL)

"I wonder if they actually still have some, NOS" I would love to know if Intel still has Pentium 60 and Pentium 66 CPUs in inventory. I have 2 socket 4 machines with the FDIV bug and am keeping them forever, one a 60 and the other a 66. I remember one day in 1993 or early 1994 riding with my father in the family minivan (1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager) and he was listing to the news on the radio and the "new Pentium chip" was reported to have a flaw that affected large numeric calculations. I was in my very early teens and I was DYING to have a Pentium because we were suffering with the 486sx25. We finally got a Pentium 133 in January 1997 and the performance increase was MIND BLOWING. @@nickwallette6201

Sweet. I remember the first time I used a Pentium. I thought it was the coolest thing ever :)

Oh, that was lucky indeed! Thanks for sharing

@@Epictronics1 well at least if you get the wrong one, the worst thing that'll happen is a non functional mouse, it's not destructive

Why not? They felt solid

It's funny, because my intuition was that I had seen that case before, but I figured I was just imagining it. Maybe not.

:)

One of my best friend's Pentium 100 machine, which he got in April of 1996, came in that small tower. I remember thinking it looked modern.

Fun times!

I guess it's possible that ESCOM wanted the Amiga brand, and the Commodore brand was just included in the deal.

Thanks!

Awesome. My first Pentium was a 133 too :)

WE had a bunch of Enlight cases, mostly this Baby-AT tower, but they also made a "Fatter" version of the tower.

Very cool, my first Pentium was also a 133 MMX :)

Thanks! Information about Batman/Batman's revenge/Batman II is rather confusing online

Very nice case, I hope you find one!

I have seen one of these exact cases badged as Osborne😁

Interesting to know there are other weirdos "hunting" for that exact case. My family's first computer was a Cyrix 166 in that Escom midi tower. The board broken some time in the early 2000s and the case has been lost ever since.

Thank god!

Add the old 21" CRT and I had to go twice between the car and the table at the dreamhack. 😅

That sounds amazing. Also, it was always worth it go lug a heavy ass AT desktop and 17 inch monitor to and from the family minivan whenever we went to the grandparent's house for the summer or Christmas. We could not live without playing DOOM daily.

True, but at least most of them didn't require to pull off the front everytime you wanted to remove the cover.

Excellent choice of a first computer :)

Sorry for laughing out loud :) I hope you're ok now :)

Those guys have thin, sharp pins!!

Countless cuts and memories

cool. Most white box manufacturers back then couldn't compete with big brand names and disappeared

Very cool, I think the riddle here has something to do with ESCOM's deal with IBM

Thanks Rudy :)

That's pretty insane, The Commodore brand must be cursed

@@Epictronics1 Man... Only the "Amiga" brand is cursed. I've lost count of what went into whose hands. After Escom there was Gateway 2000 was finally taken over by Acer. Amiga was sold to some strange company "KMOS", then "Amino" and then renamed "Amiga Inc". Along the way there was still Hyperion, Cloanto and heck knows what else. That's it roughly.

Thanks!

They seem to be OK, in my experience. Not the fastest or quietest. It's the silver Quantum drives that are a bit of a gamble, due to the rubber bumper inside. And Western Digital drives are hit-and-miss, but that might just be the sheer number of them, and luck of the draw in how they were used (often, to the brink of death) and stored (usually in a giant cardboard box, along with a river rock collection, as far as I can tell.)

Yeah, I read ESCOM bought some retail stores in the UK but ran out of money. I wonder what they were thinking, something clearly went wrong with their plan to expand

There was a company called rumbalows, a national chain that sold electricals that went bust, escom bought I think all of their stores, so quite a large number of stores suddenley re opened as escom stores. I remember them advertising in nearly every pc magazine as well at the time.

@@sneekeruk To bad they didn't have the cash flow to keep going. It seems they made some really solid machines

@@Epictronics1I used to work at an Escom store here in the UK while I was an impoverished university student. Nice machines that came pre-installed with OS/2 Warp and Windows 3.1 IIRC

@@EdCourtenay Sounds like a fun job. I read somewhere that the deal with IBM(OS/2 Warp) may have had something to do with ESCOM's decision to buy Commodore

omg. I had issues running Win 3.11 on my 40MB drive back then :o

​@@Epictronics1Dude I had to ZIP the Windows directory just to install Duke3D. Then reverse the process when I wanted Windows back.

@@PJBonoVox 😆

I didn't know that, thanks!

Massive!

Oh, crap, I need to check that. Thanks!

You're right. Apparently the batman-looking board in the full tower is an Intel Plato board

Very cool find, good luck with the project

@@Epictronics1 Thanks :). I have from before all the parts needed to make it complete again, also several other retro PC computers in my collection :). Keep up the good work and channel 👍

So ... is that pronounced "Pye-nuss"?

I'd love to get my hands on one of those Amigas :)

@@Epictronics1 I have it, you can use standard Enlight drive rails. Commodore has a different front, not sure if that was made by Commdore or that they gave the design to Enlight and said "make this" but the metal chassis is the same and Amiga Technologies front plastic is I guess the standard Enlight PC design (it also says "TURBO", a PC feature, but is connected to the speaker). The Commodore may not say Turbo, I'm not sure now. ESCOM mainly wanted the brand and name and patents from Commodore, they wanted to use the brand as it had 95% recognition in Europe or Germany or so. They also tried to get a 2nd independant platform with Amiga. The main plan was to make Amiga to a "smart" home entertainment console to do smart functions on your house, but all that did not really work out. In the end, they just made 2 new logos by frog design and used the Commodore brand for the former ESCOM PCs and made Amiga Technologies. Original plans was to manufacture C64, A600, A1200, A4000T and CD32, but only A1200 and A4000T came to production. Some equipment and molds and plans got lost or it was scraped, so only the newest products were made again. They even showed the A4000 DESKTOP with a ESCOM/Amiga Tech logo. Something that never happened, probably just a rebadged Commodore to show something at least. They had luck that the 4000T was a standard PC board form factor, thus it was probably easier to get production up and running again compared to the special commodore parts and cases. There is a rare German interview of Manfred Schmitt (owner of ESCOM) and there he goes into some early details of what I wrote above: Video is called "Amiga - Escom beim WDR Computer Club 1995" on KZfaq Maybe you can translate it or something if you want to dig more into the End of Commodore / ESCOM era

You are clearly right. I thought they had stopped using them by 1995

I don't think I have ever tried running W95 with less than 32MB

@@Epictronics1 Pentium pc I built in 1995 when I also bought win95 had 16MB of ram but 8MB was much more common at the time and I just wanted to double it for the futurre.

My p120 Packard Bell got 1gb hard drive and 8mb Ram. It started 'Navigator' automatically, which used lot of virtual memory 😂

@@Epictronics1 You are spoiled, sir! I suffered through a short eternity of running Windows 95 on 8MB, until I finally had the good fortune of doubling it to a whole 16MB! Can you imagine ... you click the Windows Explorer icon and it just pops up, without gnashing away at the HDD for 15 seconds first? It was euphoric! I think, for a true Windows 95 launch experience, you have to limit the RAM until minimizing a full-screen application requires streaming the background wallpaper image back from disk, painting one new line at a time, from top to bottom.

That must have been a nice experience. I bet they had a nice showroom :)

It has os2/warp operating system on it

And my case is different than yours

@@ZUUL74 Oh, yeah, the deal with IBM. I didn't have time to look into it, but I think maybe, the explanation to why ESOM bought Commodore may have something to do with the IBM deal.

Escom buy Commodore and Amiga. They claim this allows them to position theirselves favourably in the new multimedia market. Two subsiduaries are formed, Commodore BV in Nieuw-Vennep, Holland, and Amiga Technologies located in Bensheim The main headquarters in Germany goes bust. UK operations closed, at least 2 European subsiduaries attempt a successful management buyout, the Commodore name is brought for badged PCs, Amiga is to be sold to Viscorp. Due to financial diffculties Viscorp drop out of the bidding by November of that year. After months of waiting the rights to the Amiga were bought by Gateway 2000. That’s the story I found

I completely forgot to check, I'll get back to this somehow

Awesome. First time I hear about it. I googled and found a picture. Looks neat!

I could never find any info about it online.@@Epictronics1

I do have one picture of the case. But no longer have the case.

Thanks for the clarification. I checked and you are of course right. The Batman/Batman's revenge names seem to be heavily misused online, creating much confusion

@@Epictronics1 yes it is quite confusing. Most of the time i use the info on the retroweb website as a reference... It has so much information about retro hardware..

Same case, 1994

Nice rig!

very weird indeed!

@@Epictronics1 I found a reference on Vgamuseum website to two cards having 54M40's, and in the specs it mentions that they have hardware MPEG1 decoding. If that's not it, then maybe a mobile version with lower power consumption?

What did you use to attach the heat sink to the socket?

@@Epictronics1 exactly your solution, took a flat socket 7 + adapted a bracket from a Pentium 3 raising it with aluminium foil folded many times to fit the height. Before that I had a 486 metal clip. There isn't a solution, just DIY... :)

@@Neksus-M06 Oh, ok, I'll try with a Pentium 3 bracket, thanks!

I could try, but I don't know what tool to use to make a square hole at each end

@@Epictronics1 You drill a hole and then file the corners with triangular file.

We all made the same misstake. I hope you find a case eventually

@@Epictronics1 by the way, I love your videos! Really premium retro content!

@@robertb165 Thank you :)

I don't know yet. I only had time to check the PSU, RAM, and the graphics card. Probably the MOBO. Luckily it's nothing too crazy, just an msi h110i pro. Luckily the GTX Titan X is ok!

I don't think I've had any trouble on Pentium boards -- even my P60 boards. But I've definitely fought 486 motherboard / controller card / HDD / ATAPI CD-ROM drive combinations trying to get them to work. I've had them refuse to work on the same channel with certain HDDs -- and the other way around, inexplicably, failing to recognize the CD-ROM if it was on a secondary IDE channel. Even if the primary channel was VLB and the secondary was (on the same card, but connected via) ISA. If I connected JUST the HDD or CD-ROM, it would work. But not both. Very strange. I guess that's just first-gen ATAPI CD-ROMs for you.

They did, I'm not an expert, but I think they made the 3000 and 4000. Hopefully, someone may add a more educated comment here.

@@Epictronics1They brought out the A1200 again, with a modded pc floppy drive that wasnt quite compatible, and they also brought out 2x A4000 towers, an 040 based one and a 060 one as well using somebody elses cpu card.

@@sneekeruk I'd love to restore one of those, but they are fetching silly money on ebay nowadays

Thanks, unfortunately, I don't know. It is an official name given by Intel. Wiki only tells that it was in fact named after the fictional superhero Batman.

Oh, crap! I forgot to check!

LoL! Un-Subscribed! Ok maybe not. I was wondering if I missed it but we are all human so no big deal

haha, well, he's got 2.2M subscribers on his channel, sounds like a winning speech pattern to me! ;)

It is the official name of this Intel board. I have not been able to find out why unfortunately

@@Epictronics1 thx